From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 00:10:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580FE106564A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D568FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:10:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC64509DA for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:10:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FYltvzYmuUx3 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7470A509D4; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090111001001.7470A509D4@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-12-21 - 2009-01-10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:10:05 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 01:11:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562FE106566B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA7E8FC19 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.79]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2E0F81707F for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:11:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:11:00 -0500 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:11:03 -0000 I have to use paper-sneakernet because - no network connectivity yet - tried plugging in a memory stick; it flashed but nothing showed up with the 'mount' command Here are the last two entries from the 'pciconf -lv' command, which look relevant to the problem. I had to write them down on paper and walk over to this room to type them. Please pardon any typos: none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x2abf103c chip=0x816810ec rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' device = 'RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' class = network subclass = ethernet fwohci0@pci:1:5:0: class=0x0c0010 card=0x2a6f103c chip=0x581111c1 rev=0x70 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Lucent/Agere Systems (Was: AT&T MicroElectronics)' device = 'FW322 1394A PCI PHY/Link Open Host Ctrlr I/F' class = serial bus subclass = FireWire It sounds like I have both an ethernet adapter and firewire. Some part of FreeBSD recognises both. However the network configuration recognises the firewire and not the ethernet adapter as available for networking. This is despite the network adapter actually being connected by CAT5 to a live network. Question 0. Is there a way to get ifconfig to recognise the ethernet adapter? Question 1. Is it possible that FreeBSD 7.1 would do a better job? Question 2. How can I mount and write stuff to my memory stick on this OS? -Will Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 1/10/09, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I have just installed FreeBSD on a machine and am having trouble getting >> basic ethernet connectivity working. >> >> I know that the interface works because it functioned fine with the old >> virus software called 'Vista' on that connection. >> >> The ifconfig utility tells me that the machine recognises something >> called fwe0 with an ethernet address of 02:1e:8c:9a:3b:96. However >> dmesg tells me this is a 'Fake Ethernet' address. >> >> I used ifconfig (as root) to set the ip address and netmask for fwe0, >> but am unable to ping another machine on the network. I have not tried >> installing FreeBSD before but have installed other operating systems in >> the past including various versions of Linux. >> >> Is it possible that FreeBSD is not recognising the ethernet device >> properly at boot time, and giving it the wrong driver? Or is there a >> simpler step I missed? >> >> What steps can I take to get this interface working? >> >> -Will >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > fwe is ethernet emulation driver for firewire. > post output of pciconf -lv. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 01:41:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7B8106564A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928868FC1D for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so11572003rvf.43 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:41:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-disposition:message-id:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9StHfz7r3e307ugMf/v6irw+YkEviDQfNWoFzEQX/ys=; b=dNb+0w9PJeTAuVM0e59104HXBp0C8uIbOanADNpK/0DaS99Ah1tEBEixetSkASJCTj ZGOvouQzV4MSd01MH4tJm2E91mz0hFRyahNlSEzpiW3ddxrR4fX3LLgVgGSBX8Ut8maI cpSpbd3kKshr85N3AYFvW+iDYtCV8ntojRdCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-disposition :message-id:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j6ENzyZtkjSeVVWCY2xlzafQjxFEwm+xftRKs4IiRRaA8ddfSq3HSOHWaF27VsqQTv GR2E4SHW5FUkygtVvGBrfmb2YD9GENE74sxPCsAFqdhGYTTPheepdOcQX0a6L7z9wRRH jxxio65zvXtngtVbjL6rKtngg7ktCBUFasA4c= Received: by 10.141.62.7 with SMTP id p7mr13600969rvk.159.1231638083211; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:41:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sniper (71-221-160-162.bois.qwest.net [71.221.160.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g31sm9301862rvb.4.2009.01.10.17.41.22 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Falanga To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:37:50 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200901101837.50363.af300wsm@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Odd behavior after upgrading to 7.0-p7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:41:24 -0000 Hi, I installed 7.0 i386 and all was working great. I upgraded to p7 and now when I end my X session, I have kdm loading, it doesn't bring me to a login prompt. It dumps me on console 0 and I have to kill the kdm-bin process to return to a kdm login. This didn't happen before upgrading to p7. What would have changed that would not prevent this? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 02:23:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AF01106566C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:23:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f21.google.com (mail-ew0-f21.google.com [209.85.219.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E954D8FC12 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy14 with SMTP id 14so12268809ewy.19 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:23:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bxwJIJ4oR6TcNnYrMZZZmWMIbEj3ccGknEm/tsGxBdk=; b=jKBOCC4u+Bmbs8solPcWBT0s7KNdY67uqOT8d8HC4pLwFyUXAKPoDGKXZGZalUmyQb NmVrrNmr4nSSXyaoGJN6wgHbRKKjRmLJtDElDL07unS4PLKKoy4LkrYMGl78WwVQKP+V f5c1HNQ4tP6XD6zlbM0KeoW0Kyd9GAaHGfJcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qe++NFlWY3V1mwDJGemQZNGcLRBWaKgm4KsdW/EjcbfrINi8E78ELkSGaH3gsrFQg0 f/OXOK0UGtRSadaPW8JZIjdsaW1oprxCT62i5shJIK4g2t/OgMorAwfVQr7YOWGFTkmW jHqrctxmZUsUO7lA14W1TSLE4HXl7FQdhDXro= Received: by 10.210.78.7 with SMTP id a7mr32271285ebb.4.1231640609838; Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c22sm59885187ika.8.2009.01.10.18.23.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:23:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:23:25 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090111022325.3e252ce7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <49690095.8030101@onetel.com> References: <4967C511.3060100@comcast.net> <20090109231748.GA3715@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20090110033633.77e00a1e@gumby.homeunix.com> <49690095.8030101@onetel.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Mounting /c X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:23:31 -0000 On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:09:57 +0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Why not as a matter of curiosity? It has its limitations (eg max file > size) but it's very cross platform. ntfs is much more robust than fat32, if you crash windows or pull the plug, you are more likely to lose data with fat32. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 03:03:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06C21065670 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A0F8FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LLqcC-000525-Q3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:03:52 +0000 Received: from pool-141-156-171-233.esr.east.verizon.net ([141.156.171.233]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:03:52 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-171-233.esr.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:03:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:04:13 -0500 Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-171-233.esr.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:03:57 -0000 William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > I have to use paper-sneakernet because > - no network connectivity yet > - tried plugging in a memory stick; it flashed but nothing showed up > with the 'mount' command > > Here are the last two entries from the 'pciconf -lv' command, which look > relevant to the problem. I had to write them down on paper and walk > over to this room to type them. Please pardon any typos: > > none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x2abf103c chip=0x816810ec > rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device = 'RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > class = network > subclass = ethernet > This may be supported by the "re" driver. Run your ifconfig setup commands against "re0" and see what happens. This should be present in the GENERIC kernel, if you have a custom kernel with it removed just kldload the module. You should also be able to grep "re" out from your dmesg. [snip] > > Question 1. Is it possible that FreeBSD 7.1 would do a better job? Sometimes with these adapters not every chipID makes it into the driver code. Usually this takes care of itself as time goes on, eg "newer is better". If you are just starting out with a new machine and a fresh install you might want to consider 7.1-RELEASE. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 07:42:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8709E106566C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A088FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0B7gM2i025109; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:42:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0B7gJF1025106; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:42:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:42:19 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: William Gordon Rutherdale In-Reply-To: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <20090111084136.K25093@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:42:30 -0000 > > The ifconfig utility tells me that the machine recognises something called > fwe0 with an ethernet address of 02:1e:8c:9a:3b:96. However dmesg tells me > this is a 'Fake Ethernet' address. fwe is firewire emulated ethernet - you may connect 2 computers using firewire cable. it's wrong interface, if there are no others - your ethernet card is not detected From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 07:49:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFDA106564A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (constellation.thenetnow.com [65.39.193.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962C48FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANTLAPTOP) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LLv4q-0000wx-Lt for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:49:44 -0500 Message-ID: <2971BFA91BAE482E9A59C9F05E31B9D3@GRANTLAPTOP> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:49:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: gname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:49:46 -0000 Wow, After a fresh install of FreeBSD 6.4, (with Xorg) I tried installing = Gnome, and I get a "stop" during build, Filesystem Full! Is Gname really that big? or did I miss doing something? Doing a du -h -d1 on /usr shows" ... 7.0G ports. 1.8G local df -h shows: ... /dev/ad8s1e 9.7G(total) 9.6G(used) ... 108% (usr) ... Again, is gname really that big? -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 08:33:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DA51065670; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483EE8FC12; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0B8X1HO027655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:33:01 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0B8X0nW007399; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:33:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0B8X0mE007395; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:33:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:33:00 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Kamlesh Patel Message-ID: <20090111083300.GC7054@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <468090.72533.qm@web45413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <468090.72533.qm@web45413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:33:04 -0000 --yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-Jan-09 00:05:47 -0800, Kamlesh Patel wrote: >How do i recover the system from this error. I can't reload the loader.old If you press any key during the first spinner, you should get a prompt similar to the following: >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/loader boot: You can then enter the name of the program you wish to run - eg /boot/loader.old (or directly load /boot/kernel/kernel) See the following for a more complete description: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=3Dboot&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D0&man= path=3DFreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE&format=3Dhtml --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklprrwACgkQ/opHv/APuIfTrACgvDIfkZzzdTJkznYWKfqeVj4R JzgAn1B05lz+K8r+NtxrA/3bXfHHt3/V =HVuo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --yVhtmJPUSI46BTXb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 09:11:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC916106566C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raasdnil@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AE48FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from raasdnil@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so11707885rvf.43 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:11:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=cnUKfha02K6AMxd8dOO+/tDsFvfB9XIecW9bd/B5BOw=; b=tFqmqLsZLEM+V+Gw7CRhAL5lkuxKxj0U5kIwv7Op8ftdEj6oqbhq4EDo440bHEage3 +1LdQMYz9FPl8d5LefTcLyLrSGqQHLcq9pLALW96YYGkOI0fEeFcL6npqxTnmd47twz5 4ZFlaLU2zdL/DRpZf3oWZ0iRILyjEG1185Ftg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=wJk+wKdEFknQU2x+hHTwpahyLNQIDg7VJ1nsax4wtFjGCgNgd+y54rsjE/dcKhwBu9 Z3vrNXNzMvucsnAjy6639pmWRXLwVgaw2U7Iy3glaCzSE93QyYpUvsuL0aH6z4NKkmZo qpw4bAvqhzA7x0Ukklw8PAo/eSwnabb8mtFxA= Received: by 10.141.209.6 with SMTP id l6mr1357249rvq.2.1231663133934; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:38:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.162.8 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:38:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <57a815bf0901110038t24071058m134d438339888b5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:38:53 +1100 From: "Mikel Lindsaar" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Linux binary execution performance hit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:11:57 -0000 Hi list, Question, what sort of performance hit does FreeBSD 7.0 have on running linux binaries? The program in question is Ruby, I'm looking at putting ruby compiled on a linux box over onto a FreeBSD system so I can take advantage of the Oracle Instant client. But will look at other options if this is going to be a lot slower. Mikel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 09:15:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B72C106564A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068768FC1F for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:15:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0B9FXqb025264; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:15:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n0B9FXKo025261; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:15:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:15:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Mikel Lindsaar In-Reply-To: <57a815bf0901110038t24071058m134d438339888b5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090111101445.Y25260@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <57a815bf0901110038t24071058m134d438339888b5b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux binary execution performance hit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:15:41 -0000 > > Question, what sort of performance hit does FreeBSD 7.0 have on > running linux binaries? > > The program in question is Ruby, I'm looking at putting ruby compiled > on a linux box over onto a FreeBSD system so I can take advantage of > the Oracle Instant client. But will look at other options if this is > going to be a lot slower. > no it won't be much slower. linux programs's speed under FreeBSD is comparable to same under linux. it's not "emulation" in strict sense, rather second ABI. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 09:20:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8691065689 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f20.google.com (mail-bw0-f20.google.com [209.85.218.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873B48FC14 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so4649104bwz.19 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:19:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=S+KlEdpaK3Td+b6OSoJFwkbiaK5P000JK24fO6we24I=; b=X7GsJ3UBjOV+deIw03oF0MORiQXlpoZKKzDJv7FTc3nZEwWGDmAz96O9O8wxJZeNdV scvxJwDFZwylZTi1mC1z3sTm7f/9/TDONr318kUZxhHAR6n9EaypWJ4LNxhHfoSj7pl2 Cp4/pqZ38J7Xr8RqapO0ukr01QoV+dTFs8X4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=F2zAN2JkX0aQd+/6/GC5hVN1wSUv8IoTH8cbiDbRYlTtIfQW46gA3VtWdTdHjNltma UEPbMAUe/zhkUhpYJim4lcIUvp1BalYkVEQ29BQ2F7LkqLqDrvF2yxa08HUTj1FsJsiX WvHQ9FFXjkOofvFQKuq4YhdNx+yL2N1GY+6zA= Received: by 10.223.112.132 with SMTP id w4mr20021227fap.67.1231665599400; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.115.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:19:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3a142e750901110119w1703629fufc554aa1ffc44b73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:19:59 +0100 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <49693688.3030108@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49693688.3030108@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: does IPI_PREEMPTION in the kernel config do anything X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:20:01 -0000 On 1/11/09, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > For the last year I have been using IPI_PREEMPTION in my kernel config > and I know back then it helped quite a bit on the performence of my dual > core... now I am setting a 4 core machine using 7.1pl1 (i386) [on the > dual core I {and will continue} to use -current] and was just wondering > if IPI_PREEMPTION actually maeans anything anymore IPI_PREEMPTION is used only with 4bsd scheduler. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 10:58:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2661065670 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:58:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F748FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0BAwCM6062044; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:58:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0BCCDBA89; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:58:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:58:11 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: William Gordon Rutherdale Message-ID: <20090111105811.GA33194@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:58:14 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 08:11:00PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > I have to use paper-sneakernet because > - no network connectivity yet > - tried plugging in a memory stick; it flashed but nothing showed up=20 > with the 'mount' command It won't mount automatically, unless you have the automounter configured. If you want to mount USB drives as a normal user, you have to run the command 'sysctl vfs.usermount=3D1' as root. To make this change permanent, put 'vfs.usermount=3D1' in /etc/sysctl.conf. Next, you have to make a directory to mount it. I would suggest /mnt/$USER (where $USER is your username). Make sure that _you_ own that directory. Next, you'll need read/write access to the devices. I would suggest to create a group called usb, and make yourself a member of this group. See pw(8). With that done, you chould add a rule to /etc/devfs.rules. See the EXAMPLES in devfs.rules(5). If all of that is sorted, you should see one or more /dev/daXsY devices appear when you plug in the USB drive, X and Y being numbers, e.g. /dev/da0s1. This means first slice [s1] on the first da(4) device [da0= ]. To mount this device if it is formatted as FAT partition do: mount_msdosfs -m 644 -M 755 -l -o noatime -o sync -o noexec -o nosuid \ /dev/da0s1 /mnt/$USER > none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x2abf103c chip=3D0x816810ec=20 > rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device =3D 'RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > class =3D network > subclass =3D ethernet This should be recognized by the re(4) driver. This driver is present in the generic kernel. Are you running a custom kernel? ('uname -i' can tell you the name of the kernel you are running) If so, try running 'kldload if_re.ko'. The device should then show up as /dev/net/re0. If this works, you'll have to load the module on the next boot, by adding 'if_re_load=3D"YES"' to /boot/loader.conf. You will also have to configure the device in etc/rc.conf. This is covered in the handbook. You can find the english version at [1]. It is also available on the FreeBSD site. If you are running the GENERIC kernel and it does not recognize this chip, try upgrading to the latest release. If that doesn't work, you should probably file a problem report with send-pr(1). Roland [1: file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html] =20 --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklp0MMACgkQEnfvsMMhpyW2YQCgjlQvL8ZNDMj6SQpJnM+M3b35 U24An1TJCAgzgNkoYRwOkYhda4/S9QAV =S/rp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 12:34:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BA11065670 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from stdin.stderror.at (stdin.stderror.at [83.65.196.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ACD8FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "") Received: from steve.stderror.at (83-65-196-94.work.xdsl-line.inode.at [83.65.196.94]) by stdin.stderror.at (Postfix) with ESMTPA id ADF535C2F; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:34:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:34:37 +0100 Message-ID: <861vvaowbm.wl@stderror.at> From: Toni Schmidbauer To: francklarchange@free.fr In-Reply-To: <49692C49.1000800@free.fr> References: <496903FE.6020507@free.fr> <86vdsmeu3p.wl@stderror.at> <200901102218.58365.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com> <86tz86ep78.wl@stderror.at> <49692C49.1000800@free.fr> User-Agent: Wanderlust Emacs Organization: stderror.at X-WWW-Home-Page: http://stderror.at X-PGP-Fingerprint: 53F2 28AE 8070 83E0 AFEC 0ABC BBF9 A34A 3ED1 3287 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:34:11 -0000 At Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:16:25 +0100, Franck Royer wrote: > Thanks for all this infos. I have another question about the zfs kernel > module : is it still in the GENERIC kernel in the release 7.1 ? Or do I > need to include it and recompile the kernel before the first reboot ? the module is included in the standard kernel, you just have to tell the boot loader to load it on startup (/boot/loader.conf): zfs_load="YES" and if your root filesystem is zfs vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:rpool/root" toni -- Don't forget, there is no security | toni at stderror dot at -- Wulfgar | Toni Schmidbauer From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 12:39:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C3C106566B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9168FC18 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.79]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 38DEB17015 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:39:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4969E869.4070307@utoronto.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:39:05 -0500 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:39:08 -0000 Is there an easy way to tell whether the new 7.1 release will officially support my hardware? I looked at this url: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/relnotes.html#PROC and cannot easily tell from there. There must be something in the boot code (or drivers) that looks at the signature (maybe device name and manufacturer) and decides whether it knows the card. If I could find either documentation or some configuration or source code file to look at, then I could have an idea before actually trying it whether freebsd 7.1 actually will recognise this driver on its own. By the way, two other cards were not recognised. That's why it labelled it 'none2'. There was also a none0 and a none1. However those cards are lower priority for my application. -Will Michael Powell wrote: > William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > > >> I have to use paper-sneakernet because >> - no network connectivity yet >> - tried plugging in a memory stick; it flashed but nothing showed up >> with the 'mount' command >> >> Here are the last two entries from the 'pciconf -lv' command, which look >> relevant to the problem. I had to write them down on paper and walk >> over to this room to type them. Please pardon any typos: >> >> none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x2abf103c chip=0x816810ec >> rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' >> device = 'RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' >> class = network >> subclass = ethernet >> >> > > This may be supported by the "re" driver. Run your ifconfig setup > commands against "re0" and see what happens. This should be present > in the GENERIC kernel, if you have a custom kernel with it removed > just kldload the module. You should also be able to grep "re" out > from your dmesg. > > [snip] > >> Question 1. Is it possible that FreeBSD 7.1 would do a better job? >> > > Sometimes with these adapters not every chipID makes it into the driver > code. Usually this takes care of itself as time goes on, eg "newer is > better". > > If you are just starting out with a new machine and a fresh install > you might want to consider 7.1-RELEASE. > [snip] > >>> fwe is ethernet emulation driver for firewire. >>> post output of pciconf -lv. >>> >>> >>> > [snip] > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 12:49:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDF9106564A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from fizeau.zen.co.uk (fizeau.zen.co.uk [212.23.8.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0272D8FC14 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:49:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [212.23.3.141] (helo=smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk) by fizeau.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LLzUk-0005LT-Ra for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:32:47 +0000 Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=thor.vickiandstacey.com) by smarthost02.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LLzUg-0001MW-UE; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:32:43 +0000 Received: from thor.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thor.vickiandstacey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0BCTlcj056682; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:29:48 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@thor.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by thor.vickiandstacey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0BCTkKm056680; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:29:46 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:29:46 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20090111122946.GA1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49589883.lhmPNVeBMeI7aDqo%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <49618959.ytDnPW+y0ehAb8CV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49618959.ytDnPW+y0ehAb8CV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-Smarthost02-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIXED: vpnc connects, but does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:49:27 -0000 Hi perryh! Glad to hear that you managed to get your problem fixed.., I also have this problem, the difference being that mine **USED to** work, but now it suddenly stoped working. I tried adding the line to my conf file as you did, but for me, the problem remains: Appears to connect and authenticate successfully to my office's VPN concentrator Once (apparently) connected, I can't access any resources on the company network (mail / servers, etc), nor can I ping anything.., Wondering if you can point me to where you found the info on the various options I can try to continue debugging this problem, please. The FW guys at the office aren't exactly forthcoming where non-MS windows is concerned, you see.., Thanks. Regards, S Roberts On Sun, 04 Jan 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > I have installed vpnc to connect to an employer's Cisco VPN > > system, and it seems to make the connection, but after connecting > > I can't ping the gateway nor anything beyond it ... > > It turned out the only problem was the absence of > > NAT Traversal Mode cisco-udp > > in vpnc.conf. (Presumably not all configurations of the Cisco 3000 > will need that, else it would be the default, but it seems to be > correct for the one involved here.) > > I never did figure out why that kept the interface from responding > to a ping of its own address :( > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 14:01:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1775F106566C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19378FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:01:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr3.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0BE11FD042670; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:01:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 85779BA89; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:00:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:00:58 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: William Gordon Rutherdale Message-ID: <20090111140058.GA57235@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> <4969E869.4070307@utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4969E869.4070307@utoronto.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:01:04 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 07:39:05AM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > Is there an easy way to tell whether the new 7.1 release will officially= =20 > support my hardware? I looked at this url: =20 > http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/relnotes.html#PROC Look at this manual page for the re(4) driver: [http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/= man.cgi?query=3Dre&apropos=3D0&sektion=3D4&manpath=3DFreeBSD+7.1-RELEASE&fo= rmat=3Dhtml] This seems to match what you see with pciconf: > >> none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x2abf103c chip=3D0x816810ec > >> rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00 > >> vendor =3D 'Realtek Semiconductor' > >> device =3D 'RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > >> class =3D network > >> subclass =3D ethernet This driver is part of the GENERIC kernel. So it should be recognized by 7.1-RELEASE. Try downloading the bootonly CD-image and booting from it. I've used realtek devices in the past (cheap rl(4) based cards) but wasn't really impressed. One one of those cards, download speed was OK, but upload maxed out @ 200 kB/s. :-( Better get a card based on an Intel PRO/100 chip [fxp(4) driver] or 3COM 3c905 [xl(4) driver]. If you need gigabit, try Intel PRO/1000 [em(4)]. > and cannot easily tell from there. There must be something in the boot= =20 > code (or drivers) that looks at the signature (maybe device name and=20 > manufacturer) and decides whether it knows the card.=20 Drivers try to probe for the card. If they get a good reaction, the device is enabled. =20 > If I could find either documentation or some configuration or source=20 > code file to look at, then I could have an idea before actually trying=20 > it whether freebsd 7.1 actually will recognise this driver on its own. Look at /usr/src/sys/dev/re/if_re.c. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklp+5oACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUmYQCgsS8bqbmeq8j8q2lujOT5RhE9 DfsAmwaQs8eFD0AbD8IMo3/TopkueQHC =Ucxt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 15:30:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE12106566C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBA88FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D9D3480B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-76-26-198-188.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.26.198.188]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78938EC9D for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LM2H8-0007H0-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:30:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:30:54 -0500 From: stan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090111153054.GA27872@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090104010332.GA25704@teddy.fas.com> <20090110152235.GA16911@the-grills.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090110152235.GA16911@the-grills.com> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 10:25:19 up 244 days, 16:47, 1 user, load average: 0.13, 0.05, 0.01 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Re: PHP setup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:30:56 -0000 On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:22:36AM -0600, Kelly D. Grills wrote: > On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 08:03:32PM -0500, stan wrote: > > > > I am trying to get the ampcache port working on a 7.1 machine. > > Just wondering if you've resolved the problems you had with this. > I installed amapche on an Ubuntu mahcine, and folowed the same procedure (except for quoting the rss variables). Once again when I went to write the config file, I had to download it to the machine that I was running the web browser on. Once I did that, and located the appropriate place on the Ubuntu machine, everything worked as expected. I am building a music catalog as we speak on that machine. This leads me to suspect that there is something wrong with the way I am seting it up on the FreeBSD machine. Going through the _exact_ same procdure as on the Ubuntu machine results in the following when I try to procedd to step 3 in the web installer. Error: Config file detected, Ampache is already installed (displayed in the browser). Can we idntify exactly what causes this error message? If so, maybe I cna check that on the FreeBSD machine. I really need this to work on the FreeBSD machine, as it is where the music is stored, and it's the web serer accessible from outside. Thanks, -- One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 16:04:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31CD10656C4 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81BF58FC26 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:04:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F8D50A75 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:51:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.27] (protometheus.webrz.net [10.10.10.27]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E67A508ED for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:51:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <496A158A.6060703@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:51:38 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn Organization: Koudekerke, Zeeland (NL) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49670974.2060202@esiee.fr> <44sknr2ozn.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> In-Reply-To: <44sknr2ozn.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: 7.1 : watchdog bge0 timeout ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:04:56 -0000 [Lowell Gilbert] Uit een eerder bericht van 10-1-2009 15:51 :: > Could be hardware trouble, I suppose. > I know FreeBSD can detect hardware probs better than other OS'es; but why didn't 6.x detect this malfunction then? I believe Murphy and his law, but for mee it seems a little bit too accidentally L-) regards, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 16:52:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F3B1065673 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8F38FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0BGqaTm097581; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:52:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0AFB7BA9A; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:52:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:52:36 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: William Gordon Rutherdale Message-ID: <20090111165235.GA62524@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:52:39 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 08:11:00PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > I have to use paper-sneakernet because > - no network connectivity yet > - tried plugging in a memory stick; it flashed but nothing showed up=20 > with the 'mount' command >=20 > Here are the last two entries from the 'pciconf -lv' command, which look= =20 > relevant to the problem. I had to write them down on paper and walk=20 > over to this room to type them. Please pardon any typos: >=20 > none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x2abf103c chip=3D0x816810ec=20 > rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00 > vendor =3D 'Realtek Semiconductor' > device =3D 'RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' > class =3D network > subclass =3D ethernet There seems to have been some breakage of the re(4) and rl(4) drivers in the 7.1 release cycle. See [http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D13= 0011] You should try to get the files mentioned in the abovementioned link on your machine, and rebuild your kernel. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklqI9MACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWOswCfRE3hhJOI94wqi1Jh8oogB54i m88An198b+YyPZ71CYePkeLrNomdP4BH =wjAU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 18:26:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F647106566C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl (edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl [88.159.1.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC7E8FC13 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:26:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from Rena.FStaals.net (unknown [88.159.208.104]) by edu-smtp-02.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805BC121BA9; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:04:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <496A349D.7030104@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:04:13 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <2971BFA91BAE482E9A59C9F05E31B9D3@GRANTLAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <2971BFA91BAE482E9A59C9F05E31B9D3@GRANTLAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:26:36 -0000 Grant Peel wrote: > Wow, > > After a fresh install of FreeBSD 6.4, (with Xorg) I tried installing Gnome, and I get a "stop" during build, Filesystem Full! > > Is Gname really that big? or did I miss doing something? > > Well it is big, but since you are installing from a clean system all the gnome dependencies will also have to install their dependencies and so on. So basically you have to install a *lot* of ports which may take quite some space/time if you do not clean up nicely. Use 'make install clean' or 'make install distclean' to install your ports (if you didn't allready) that will order the make process to remove the files it uses during it's build (and distclean also cleans the downloaded distfiles in the distfiles dir ) > Doing a du -h -d1 on /usr shows" > > ... > 7.0G ports. > 1.8G local > > Check inside ports what is taking up the most space, most likely your distfiles dir is huge as well as the build directories inside a lot of ports itself. You can manually remove the distfiles for ports you allready installed from /usr/ports/distfiles. If that does not help enough also remove some of the work directories for the ports you installed allready but are not cleaned by make yet and resume your build. (so if for example you see gnome-session is allready installed ( pkg_info -Ex gnome ) remove /usr/ports/x11/gnome-session/work/ ) Regards, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 18:35:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24F4106566B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlilly@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67BC8FC0C for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:35:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlilly@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so11827754rvf.43 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:35:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=seViHvskVfgqsINl6fLd33O43p8rEi8Z8vWQU7aR8W8=; b=nUthPeeI1/i8MSP63NEl6ihkHvbiaL5oWOqT+5e3KjchsJ3LTCzx+0Uc2lD0zC+w0A 2mKd+oGrmV+1DwUsfIxEOPTCVGEG7borIkduShwxzcYXCsaIbfoOkVX/JP4v6NpVvwdx ONsikA9gCOC+RfF+Ml/4m1Syolh3LdN86BRGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Sb6NjDPh2KPdahKqrxsssIrKl6t4XYMbdAPY3iUDr2WNk+IbPHFrvvsWu9X88OPFdp hqAsayeDKY04CUJq9hiPrQo1pmjLFhdvXL8+pDPi9rLsHtUe0MS1GbbjPtrkLz0nCpue zHkdEifCW5r2yhsBv/ubskSB5bLOFIMjhJDhY= Received: by 10.142.71.16 with SMTP id t16mr11719661wfa.273.1231697179798; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.170.17 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:06:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:06:19 -0800 From: "mojo fms" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Mounting a partition from freebsd 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:35:26 -0000 I was working on an upgrade to 6.3 from 6.2 and I lost power during the install which hosed most of my system. Instead of trying to really recover it I decided to just rebuild. I have a backup of my /etc and /usr/local/etc on a different drive that should be fine, it was just mounted under /mnt normally and used for backups. My problem is that I installed 7.1 and was careful not to erase any data on that drive, but my only options for a partition to mount is /dev/ad2s1. When I try to mount that it gives me "mount: /dev/ad2s1 : Operation not permitted", what can I do to get the data off of it? I only really care about my /etc information but it would be nice to get all of the information off of it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 19:37:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19A11065672 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900DB8FC08 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:37:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so4273535ywe.13 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:37:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=zFN/mt8kjc9AiD2I5idWZgx8dtPUVSwmiejijz51enY=; b=bU+Caye/0eT0Ch5iZhzKGx2tIPfyBxOgiypd4x3tydGxmmZvd89cknTOSWGgw38KQq PMg86teqc47oe94Elc3zcASrPT0HUL/kNx9Sn3PquZG8bFX+TaSqLASYL5AoV5bCrypx bWJdlCWgF2sd6JaXBQc+SNesioyX8mm+c9Wxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RcrRz2DNEFwp6SsQUgUIyXuO2QVPbA95kyBZG0bpQPWz90wumi9JoItw9s5YbocGcx oSj7lfxyGYNYFLr+J/0tRfZeVtwK4BpBlhZnM4nChm/L/Ji3Nog5QFzZvhvE3tL0x9UW dYwhu1irbntbD2L0zCT0A1TbRhUQhXP1pgXdo= Received: by 10.150.182.17 with SMTP id e17mr8819123ybf.80.1231702621302; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.26.10 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:37:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:37:01 +0100 From: "Stefan Miklosovic" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: creating own CVSup server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:37:03 -0000 Hi all, I decided to set up my own CVSup server just for my local network. After reading all related stuff I should find, I have solid knowledge about this issue but one thing disturbed my mind. My pc, server which I will mirroring from, is also downloading source tree from another server (cvsup.at.freebsd.org) to /usr/src directory. I will download my src tree once a week. When I am going to set up cvsup server on my own, cvsup-mirror asks me, where I want to download files I just purchased. Default directory is "/home/ncvs". My question is, can be downloading directory /usr/src ? Which reason should I place downloading files to /home/ncvs for? Does it matter ? Can I serve my own src tree for other computers? Does it have to be stored twice? thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 19:51:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFB41065676 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f11.google.com (mail-gx0-f11.google.com [209.85.217.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58EF8FC18 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so2253237gxk.19 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:51:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lagTr+43Il/3akIanb/dJs8Ac53li6XCsSN9pdCRLjc=; b=ZPh8bJRTsXX/lT+2HE9J+fWvYLaZ5zMtdB9rYHu9ePJjEdAtMK3CGXpxVyhxGXnoFe peoDcDraQEQRUcR951vskYV5ezCXQuJ210uW4K2tM30pSQWKj3mg4u/xjVS+TDhKfJCP ldgiUyRoRf9GYRo0/dFwQ8TqrlE3X/3Tc16lM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=uZ66d7bQiavVXKzI+uxJM26MUBbzQ8iOWrxxyReY67j6rYOya0G6v6z5CzIIOwgm0U EWe3x/PNcjtx/F48gq3mbR8ma4t3VFP2Oi5Ia4xR3h1msBQEYhw69DUUeEWWCC6b4T8S yNeZ3QeeZdBCGniu+YXxfmmpRGb5Hp83/hRzw= Received: by 10.151.42.10 with SMTP id u10mr8832520ybj.205.1231703476932; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.26.10 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:51:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:51:16 +0100 From: "Stefan Miklosovic" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: creating own CVSup server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:51:19 -0000 Hi, me again, I also havent noticed, that there is a choice among -current or -stable. If I want to mirror just -stable (this is possible with cvsup stable-supfile), can I? thank you again On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 8:37 PM, Stefan Miklosovic < miklosovic.freebsd@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I decided to set up my own CVSup server just for my local > network. After reading all related stuff I should find, I have > solid knowledge about this issue but one thing disturbed my mind. > > My pc, server which I will mirroring from, is also downloading > source tree from another server (cvsup.at.freebsd.org) to /usr/src > directory. I will download my src tree once a week. > When I am going to set up cvsup server on my own, cvsup-mirror > asks me, where I want to download files I just purchased. Default > directory is "/home/ncvs". > > My question is, can be downloading directory /usr/src ? > Which reason should I place downloading files to /home/ncvs for? > Does it matter ? Can I serve my own src tree for other computers? > Does it have to be stored twice? > > thank you > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 20:04:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EC0106566B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f11.google.com (mail-gx0-f11.google.com [209.85.217.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E4F8FC19 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so2256489gxk.19 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+S5pRLaDeC++7++XKMIryxzl8by0JQ5MJ7cFk8hekB4=; b=Rz55anmi2BMZbzvnmkcjy+xSySMIn4J2PpdWEwgjemT6do7DCAMvy01SKnKychmsPF oQmZ+J32R6z20he22RpAvCs9dG8EtZlEZ3ffg9VFxX4sdTR76pgM0DF9+zpR9a4LOjbB mbrLRRp0jPwiaIZwMEdzeoo9MC2v7iWzl23dc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cqoGNt5/sAvMl44d/Qc/9bJEZM3BAw+ZMq6yKOFDJDZQBqAaE1DclwlSjfDcduaKpk OLQ6ICVbgiwim0t6n8ctYurI0XE1cykpqxcNJvFsVCb9vFa5yD6WVUNScUbQ29Z0SV4L GEV15IiZyDJ/lT4OAs/gl0+WNvy7D8I3ibW64= Received: by 10.150.134.21 with SMTP id h21mr870224ybd.118.1231704296325; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.133.7 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:04:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <59adc1a0901111204xaf7fbd1v58f6fde0ec1c4e52@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:04:56 +0200 From: "Dimitar Vasilev" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <59adc1a0901062205l2bdaaa4enf6f08c0b6cd7f539@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <59adc1a0901062205l2bdaaa4enf6f08c0b6cd7f539@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: setfib+pf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:04:57 -0000 2009/1/7 Dimitar Vasilev > Hello, > > I'd like to ask on the best options for using setfib and pf in a non-BGP > environment. I will run 2 uplinks, with VLANs for internal networks and want > to fail over external links if one of them fails. > Currently pf supports to the best of my knowledge: > > a) rtable - this means i can create the routing tables with setfib and then > use pass from .... rtable N( N >1 <16) or give out directly network ranges > b) route-to - pass in/out on X from ... route-to > c) packet tagging - i can tag networks and use standalone or through > routing tags. Anyone aware if is it ok to use /etc/gateways without running > routed or how can i label routes alternatively? > d) pass in from route N(192.168.1.1 from example) to... - saw this on > http://www.mail-archive.com/pf@benzedrine.cx/msg07220.html and requires > BGP to make tags speak anything but network numbers. > e) use the vlan id's > > I'd much appreciate if someone thinks with me for the best options of using > the setfib features along with pf. > Thanks! > Best regards, > Dimitar Vassilev > > Hi, could someone confirm which of the features above are working with setfib? Seeking for the laziest and most efficient ways. If no answer received, I will try all of them 2-3 weeks later when my gear arrives. Thanks. Best regards, Dimitar Vassilev From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 21:44:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DE11065675 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:44:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MatthewDa@datacom.co.nz) Received: from mailak.datacom.co.nz (mx01.datacom.co.nz [202.175.132.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D488FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from MatthewDa@datacom.co.nz) Received: from dnzakex1.datacom.co.nz (Not Verified[202.27.76.7]) by mailak.datacom.co.nz with ESMTP Gateway id ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:43:56 +1300 Received: from dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz ([172.30.0.108]) by dnzakex1.datacom.co.nz with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:43:31 +1300 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:43:31 +1300 Message-ID: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D0804F92C@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz> In-Reply-To: <4966AF9E.8030703@ibctech.ca> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: issue with extra top level domain appened to mail Thread-Index: Aclx/fjJ4eN+D7vPSPe6Ea065eQwbQCL1lmQ References: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D0804F921@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz> <897A0E62-7897-4360-87ED-53A45ACD83AC@mac.com> <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D0804F923@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz> <16BD78F6-FF90-4D44-BECE-DD0F8FAB965F@mac.com> <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D0804F926@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz> <4966AF9E.8030703@ibctech.ca> From: "Matthew Davidson [DATACOM]" To: "Steve Bertrand" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2009 21:43:31.0795 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5A59230:01C97435] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: issue with extra top level domain appened to mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:44:08 -0000 Yes it does have the feel of a wayward '.' but... get this... If I rename my box to 'matdav.datacom.com', email comes thru from root@matdav.datacom.com If I rename my box to 'matdav.datacom.nz', email comes thru from root@matdav.datacom.nz If I rename my box to 'matdav.datacom.com.au', email comes thru from root@matdav.datacom.com.au If I rename my box to 'matdav.datacom.govt.nz', email comes thru from root@matdav.datacom.govt.nz BUT.. If I rename my box to 'matdav.datacom.co.nz', email comes thru from root@matdav.datacom.co.nz.co.nz If I rename my box to 'matdav.datacom.org.nz', email comes thru from root@matdav.datacom.org.nz.org.nz If I rename my box to 'matdav.telecom.co.nz', email comes thru from root@matdav.telecom.co.nz.co.nz I see the same issue with 6.3/6.4. I've not tested 6.2, but 6.1 I don't see this issue. I'm hoping someone may have the seen the same issue, or take the time to build a box and replicate this to confirm it's not just me being a plonka. For now I'll just have to rename my 6.3+ boxes to hostname.datacom.com to work around it. Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 21:47:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAFD106564A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6238FC1E for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1864643nfh.33 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:47:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B7yRCRbMZa65lvvCH6xxHzbkvmlCqFswXZgyQqV7+g8=; b=tVz29Y2wYb/sibFGn8uTCGtlBEWWa4vfeA/laGOoNAcDeL3w2vubQ1r8uS9qW2W/Ye LKaf5B+FW8SkB2hke3gF6WDERpj2QuPRYTfTu/UfoplsVVNOpV1aGVDYL12dLMDJK+5k Rp7EV0LgPG9M5a0gE2g2qu4fUfVYRifkwjSz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zwp07YebxM0OYC7pklWpTrHI5Mo0f3mbs3OEXvbfRTi7RV5Ovt+S7zy54pKsR0Pt6h YrSoK51+tsWEbEyKQYXYKEu/UaMCjIcY/mydcm05O1l1mHwT/zuT65FtCKT2TjSVleGU wNbE7gZFghN5XTcx6eZkOrwgflYPzkH9MpATU= Received: by 10.210.16.10 with SMTP id 10mr32517485ebp.7.1231710462567; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b36sm71175133ika.15.2009.01.11.13.47.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:47:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:47:36 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090111214736.5c0fb0b0@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <2971BFA91BAE482E9A59C9F05E31B9D3@GRANTLAPTOP> References: <2971BFA91BAE482E9A59C9F05E31B9D3@GRANTLAPTOP> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gname X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:47:44 -0000 On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:49:37 -0500 "Grant Peel" wrote: > Wow, > > After a fresh install of FreeBSD 6.4, (with Xorg) I tried installing > Gnome, and I get a "stop" during build, Filesystem Full! > > Is Gname really that big? or did I miss doing something? > > Doing a du -h -d1 on /usr shows" > > ... > 7.0G ports. > 1.8G local > The problem is that when you install something for the first time you end up with a lot of cruft in the ports tree because all the work directories for the dependencies get left-behind. When you later update Gnome with portupgrade (or whatever) the tool cleans as it goes. If you have portupgrade installed I would run portsclean -CD, and start again. If /usr is on a separate partition, and you have a lot of space elsewhere then I would suggest you either symlink /usr/ports there or set WRKDIRPREFIX. Some desktop ports need huge amounts of temporary space to build - it doesn't make much sense to allocate it under /usr. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 23:17:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1704C106566B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:17:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50A18FC0A for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:17:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.79]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7152C17017 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:17:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <496A7E0F.4060301@utoronto.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:17:35 -0500 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> <20090111165235.GA62524@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090111165235.GA62524@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:17:38 -0000 Well isn't that just great. I'm using the amd64 version, don't know if this makes a difference. The link says the poster expects it will be fixed before 7.1-RELEASE is out. (Posting date was in late December.) I just tried the FreeBSD 7.1 bootonly and the configure window at least listed the device, which is an improvement over before. Now if it only lists it but the driver doesn't work, then I still will have a communication problem where I can't easily get the correct file to the machine. I'll just try installing 7.1 for now and see how it looks. Thanks for the heads up anyway. -Will Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 08:11:00PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > >> I have to use paper-sneakernet because >> - no network connectivity yet >> - tried plugging in a memory stick; it flashed but nothing showed up >> with the 'mount' command >> >> Here are the last two entries from the 'pciconf -lv' command, which look >> relevant to the problem. I had to write them down on paper and walk >> over to this room to type them. Please pardon any typos: >> >> none2@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x020000 card=0x2abf103c chip=0x816810ec >> rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 >> vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor' >> device = 'RTL 8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC' >> class = network >> subclass = ethernet >> > > There seems to have been some breakage of the re(4) and rl(4) drivers in > the 7.1 release cycle. See [http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=130011] > > You should try to get the files mentioned in the abovementioned link on > your machine, and rebuild your kernel. > > Roland > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 11 23:45:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D0D106567F for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401398FC1B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n0BNjXH2060418; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:45:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3A692BA8F; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:45:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:45:33 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: William Gordon Rutherdale Message-ID: <20090111234532.GA86733@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> <20090111165235.GA62524@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <496A7E0F.4060301@utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <496A7E0F.4060301@utoronto.ca> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:45:36 -0000 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:17:35PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > Well isn't that just great. >=20 > I'm using the amd64 version, don't know if this makes a difference. It shouldn't really. AFAIK the code for the network interface drivers is architecture independant. On amd64 I also had some troubles with re(4) based cards, but I had an old xl(4) based card lying around, and with the upgrade to 7.1 the age(4) chip on my mobo also became usable. So I ditched the re(4) based card. > I just tried the FreeBSD 7.1 bootonly and the configure window at least= =20 > listed the device, which is an improvement over before. Now if it only= =20 > lists it but the driver doesn't work, then I still will have a=20 > communication problem where I can't easily get the correct file to the=20 > machine. The network configuration of sysinstall only shows devices that actually show up in /dev/net. That means that the driver was at least able to initialize the hardware. So chances are that it works. As I've mentioned before I had upload speed troubles with re(4) based cards, but I don't know if rl(4) based cards have/had the same problems. Copying large files with nc(1) over a cross-cable link between two machines will rapidly show you if you can max out the link. > I'll just try installing 7.1 for now and see how it looks. That's probably the best solution. It is always best to upgrade to the latest released version before asking questions about hardware support, because updating is probably the first advice you'd get. =20 > Thanks for the heads up anyway. You're welcome. :-) =20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklqhJwACgkQEnfvsMMhpyU1nACfSZY8Ck0tT5bEsFJCnRDObd6U loIAoJpC444anXrgRMzOdCvPW8N+4tce =e45B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 01:02:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD867106564A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458328FC1D for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stanb@panix.com) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979CD34805 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from teddy.fas.com (c-76-26-198-188.hsd1.sc.comcast.net [76.26.198.188]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEC0F97E for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stan by teddy.fas.com with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LMBCa-00023j-00 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:02:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:02:48 -0500 From: stan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090112010248.GA7770@teddy.fas.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090104010332.GA25704@teddy.fas.com> <20090110152235.GA16911@the-grills.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090110152235.GA16911@the-grills.com> X-Editor: gVim X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Kernel-Version: 2.4.23 X-Uptime: 19:57:51 up 245 days, 2:20, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Sender: Stan Brown Subject: Re: PHP setup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:02:51 -0000 On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:22:36AM -0600, Kelly D. Grills wrote: > On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 08:03:32PM -0500, stan wrote: > > > > I am trying to get the ampcache port working on a 7.1 machine. > > Just wondering if you've resolved the problems you had with this. I played witht his a bit more this weekend, and had a friend of mine look at it. he points out that after you put the config file in place, and you get the "File Not Found" error from the web browser that teh URL that it is pointing at is http://beachcave.net/update.php. This is wrong, if you manually enter http://beachcave/net/ampache/update.php you get to a pahe that shows some diagnostices. The first item on that page that _does not_ show OK is Ampache.cfg.php Configured? [ ERROR ] I am wondiering if I ahve somethinf set up incorectly here. What should I look for? BTW, I did install amapche on an Ubuntu system, and get it configured and working, so my problem must have something to do witht eh configuration on the FreeBSD system, right? -- One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 01:08:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2822C106566C for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from mail.vex.net (smaug.vex.net [208.76.104.132]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33258FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:08:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from will.rutherdale@utoronto.ca) Received: from [192.168.110.8] (unknown [207.35.13.79]) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 867151709E for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:08:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <496A9800.40205@utoronto.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:08:16 -0500 From: William Gordon Rutherdale User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14ubu (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4968EDAF.40108@utoronto.ca> <3a142e750901101153x66d0099dxa871dce07df32175@mail.gmail.com> <49694724.6090705@utoronto.ca> <20090111165235.GA62524@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <496A7E0F.4060301@utoronto.ca> <20090111234532.GA86733@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090111234532.GA86733@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cannot get ethernet off the ground X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:08:19 -0000 I'm afraid it's gone from bad to worse. The 7.1 system may have recognised the ethernet adapter, but it seemed to fail writing to the hard drive. I got this during installation: Progress Extracting GENERIC into /boot directory... Message Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes) /mtrt: write failed, filesystem is full. ------------- I think I allocated decent size partitions for /, /var, swap, /tmp, /usr. I made multiple attempts. Kept getting errors. I may just have to fall back on Ubuntu, just to get something running on this machine. -Will Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 06:17:35PM -0500, William Gordon Rutherdale wrote: > >> Well isn't that just great. >> >> I'm using the amd64 version, don't know if this makes a difference. >> > > It shouldn't really. AFAIK the code for the network interface drivers is > architecture independant. On amd64 I also had some troubles with re(4) > based cards, but I had an old xl(4) based card lying around, and with > the upgrade to 7.1 the age(4) chip on my mobo also became usable. So I > ditched the re(4) based card. > > > >> I just tried the FreeBSD 7.1 bootonly and the configure window at least >> listed the device, which is an improvement over before. Now if it only >> lists it but the driver doesn't work, then I still will have a >> communication problem where I can't easily get the correct file to the >> machine. >> > > The network configuration of sysinstall only shows devices that actually > show up in /dev/net. That means that the driver was at least able to > initialize the hardware. So chances are that it works. As I've mentioned > before I had upload speed troubles with re(4) based cards, but I don't > know if rl(4) based cards have/had the same problems. Copying large > files with nc(1) over a cross-cable link between two machines will > rapidly show you if you can max out the link. > > >> I'll just try installing 7.1 for now and see how it looks. >> > > That's probably the best solution. It is always best to upgrade to the > latest released version before asking questions about hardware support, > because updating is probably the first advice you'd get. > > >> Thanks for the heads up anyway. >> > > You're welcome. :-) > > Roland > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 02:08:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7C51065677 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C7E8FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:08:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19FE920F9F5 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:08:21 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 112OxHS3HI18GyKuGxP0iyGjaPtKUULsKQn8z2gCg844 1231726100 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB70C48C00 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:08:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7740275E-77AA-45C1-B95E-C1F62D2AAB29@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:08:18 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: bash versus sh test builtin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:08:22 -0000 The -ne operator for [ in /bin/sh doesn't seem to work as in bash. Also the bash behavior here is what matches /bin/[ most closely. $ /bin/sh $ if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then > echo not root > fi [: -ne: unexpected operator $ exit $ echo $SHELL /usr/local/bin/bash [jeffrey@dobby ~/src/mount-rsnap]$ if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then > echo not root > fi not root Does anyone have a recommendation of how to run this simple test in / bin/sh and how to write tests reasonably portably? -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 03:07:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA1B1065672 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953578FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan-a.emsphone.com [199.67.51.107]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n0C37InF063618 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0C37Ipt016841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0C37HUX016806; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:17 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Jeffrey Goldberg Message-ID: <20090112030717.GA57874@dan.emsphone.com> References: <7740275E-77AA-45C1-B95E-C1F62D2AAB29@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7740275E-77AA-45C1-B95E-C1F62D2AAB29@goldmark.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:07:19 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: bash versus sh test builtin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:07:22 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 11), Jeffrey Goldberg said: > The -ne operator for [ in /bin/sh doesn't seem to work as in bash. > Also the bash behavior here is what matches /bin/[ most closely. > > $ /bin/sh > $ if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then > > echo not root > > fi > [: -ne: unexpected operator > $ exit > $ echo $SHELL > /usr/local/bin/bash > [jeffrey@dobby ~/src/mount-rsnap]$ if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then > > echo not root > > fi > not root > > Does anyone have a recommendation of how to run this simple test in / > bin/sh and how to write tests reasonably portably? UID=$(id -u) if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then echo not root fi UID is not a variable set by /bin/sh, which is why the test fails. http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#tag_18_05_03 -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 03:13:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0978106566C for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D98FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0C3D82N024337 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:13:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0C3D8g2024336; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06692; Sun, 11 Jan 09 19:11:26 PST Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:13:34 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com Message-Id: <496ab55e.Ic0zjSbbhqUZJ9Uq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49589883.lhmPNVeBMeI7aDqo%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <49618959.ytDnPW+y0ehAb8CV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090111122946.GA1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <20090111122946.GA1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIXED: vpnc connects, but does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:13:10 -0000 > I also have this problem, the difference being that mine > **USED to** work, but now it suddenly stoped working. > I tried adding the line to my conf file as you did, but > for me, the problem remains: > Appears to connect and authenticate successfully to my office's > VPN concentrator Once (apparently) connected, I can't access any > resources on the company network (mail / servers, etc), nor can > I ping anything.., Including the IP address of your tun0 interface? (If you can ping that, but nothing beyond, you have a different problem than I had.) > Wondering if you can point me to where you found the info on the > various options I can try to continue debugging this problem, > please. That line came from the output of "vpnc --long-help". Other things to look at are the vpnc(8) manpage, the /usr/local/share/doc/vpnc/README file, and the TODO file in /usr/ports/security/vpnc/work/vpnc-0.4.0. There's more detail of what I think is going on in this thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2009-January/020638.html By the time you get it working again, you will probably have learned more about the workings of vpnc than you really cared to know :) > The FW guys at the office aren't exactly forthcoming where non-MS > windows is concerned, you see.., Not surprising :( Too many security types act as if obscurity helped security, not realizing that it inconveniences only their customers and not their enemies. Any chance they would be willing to say what config change they made on their end about the time it stopped working, without reference to what is running on your end? Another thing to check is whether your ISP changed something. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 03:13:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094381065670 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:13:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0BC8FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0C3D9ce024342 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:13:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0C3D9A7024341; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:13:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA06706; Sun, 11 Jan 09 19:11:46 PST Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:13:54 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: fbsdlilly@gmail.com Message-Id: <496ab572.u2DH1w2B2JAcv4M+%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting a partition from freebsd 6.2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:13:10 -0000 "mojo fms" wrote: > I was working on an upgrade to 6.3 from 6.2 and I lost power > during the install which hosed most of my system. Instead of > trying to really recover it I decided to just rebuild. I have a > backup of my /etc and /usr/local/etc on a different drive that > should be fine, it was just mounted under /mnt normally and used > for backups. My problem is that I installed 7.1 and was careful > not to erase any data on that drive, but my only options for a > partition to mount is /dev/ad2s1. When I try to mount that it > gives me "mount: /dev/ad2s1 : Operation not permitted", what can > I do to get the data off of it? I only really care about my /etc > information but it would be nice to get all of the information > off of it. Supposing ad2s1 is in fact the slice containing the filesystem in question, and the filesystem was originally made directly on that slice without partitioning it, it should be possible to run dump(8) against it and pipe the output to restore(8). This should work if the slice is readable, even if it cannot be mounted. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 03:41:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3DB1065670 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darren@thebomb.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AB38FC08 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darren@thebomb.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so11969914rvf.43 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.101.16 with SMTP id d16mr4226552rvm.277.1231731675934; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.210? (208-106-20-128.dsl.static.sonic.net [208.106.20.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm5750718rvb.5.2009.01.11.19.41.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:41:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <496ABBD5.7000206@thebomb.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:41:09 -0800 From: Darren David Organization: Stimulant User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to grow partition size on RAID volume? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:41:16 -0000 Hi all- I need some help figuring out how to expand the existing partition on my RAID volume to take advantage of a new disk I just added -- without newfs'ing the volume and starting from scratch. I added a 4th 750GB disk to my existing 1.5TB 3ware RAID5 volume, in an attempt to bring my total capacity up to ~2.25TB (4x750GB RAID5). I successfully used the 3ware 'tw-cli' utility to perform "Online Capacity Expansion." The controller migrated the existing data across all 4 disks, and it now reports a total volume capacity of 2095.44GB. Now, I'm not quite sure how to get FreeBSD to recognize the extra space. I know that in order to use growfs, I first have to use disklabel to increase the partition size. However, disklabel doesn't like this big RAID volume: # disklabel /dev/da0 disklabel: disks with more than 2^32-1 sectors are not supported and the existing partition doesn't seem to have a label: # disklabel /dev/da0s1 disklabel: /dev/da0s1: no valid label found I'm unsure how to proceed here. CAn anyone shed some light as to how I might proceed? Thanks in advance for any and all help, Darren David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 03:41:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F331065673 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BAAD8FC1C for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10FB420A05A; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:41:34 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 2ufNjOYHajEUb8f3gya3TFkEuWGlLns+GTLmSWl13p+B 1231731693 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8ECB520FCC; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:41:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <7813F00E-0F26-4127-B85F-444EA6B8B5A6@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: Dan Nelson In-Reply-To: <20090112030717.GA57874@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:41:31 -0600 References: <7740275E-77AA-45C1-B95E-C1F62D2AAB29@goldmark.org> <20090112030717.GA57874@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: bash versus sh test builtin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:41:35 -0000 On Jan 11, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Dan Nelson wrote: > UID=$(id -u) > if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then > echo not root > fi > > UID is not a variable set by /bin/sh, which is why the test fails. Ah. Thank you. I was, as you see, barking up the wrong tree. Thank you for setting me strait on this. Cheers, -j From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 03:53:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E48106566C for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6FB8FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0C3EUWj031223 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:14:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0C3ETuU047578 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0C3ETjP047577 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:14:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:14:29 -0800 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090112031429.GA42596@marvin.optimis.net> References: <7740275E-77AA-45C1-B95E-C1F62D2AAB29@goldmark.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7740275E-77AA-45C1-B95E-C1F62D2AAB29@goldmark.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: bash versus sh test builtin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:53:03 -0000 On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 08:08:18PM -0600, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > The -ne operator for [ in /bin/sh doesn't seem to work as in bash. > Also the bash behavior here is what matches /bin/[ most closely. > > $ /bin/sh > $ if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then > > echo not root > > fi > [: -ne: unexpected operator > $ exit > $ echo $SHELL > /usr/local/bin/bash > [jeffrey@dobby ~/src/mount-rsnap]$ if [ $UID -ne 0 ] ; then > > echo not root > > fi > not root > > Does anyone have a recommendation of how to run this simple test in / > bin/sh if [ $(id -u) -ne 0 ]; then ... As to why your test isn't working as expected, rewrite your script to read: #!/bin/sh echo $UID and you'll discover that UID is a bash environmental variable. > and how to write tests reasonably portably? That's a different question, and merits a much longer discussion probably better had elsewhere. I'd suggest comp.unix.shell. -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 07:50:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD351065673 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0138FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0C7ot6u016386 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:50:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:50:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:50:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20090112075012.GA2061@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: In Brief: idea summary X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:50:22 -0000 hEy guys, Here's my idea, And since I'm publishing on the most open of the open-source list, it'll be hard for anybody to ``steal'', assuming it is _worth_ stealing. People seem to be reading less; fact. Listening more. I'm sure there are a slew onlist who still plop down before the TV after a long day of coding, and so forth. My idea isn't intended for this group. It is for those of us who do read news of the web, sci-tech journals, and even forums. Of course, if you use konq or have firefox set up to read whatever you mouse-swipe, you can listen to the TTS reader while you sort your paper, or other miscellany. If you miss something--at least with festival, you can always back up and re-listen. There are at least two problems with this model as it stands. The first is _if_ the story/article is continued on pages 2,3,4, and 5. Also, when you swipe the text to be read and there is an with a series of "vertical-bar", "vertical-bar". Or more annoying things read. When things get too far off-story, I kill the reader, stop and focus on the page, blow it up so it is easy to read, then read it. It cost major bux to have a professional reader record articles and be stored online. What I have in mind would let the tts software read the story, no "|" or "&&". Shouldn't be that difficult for online site to implement. Am I on to something?? -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org First update of http://transfinite.thought.org/ab/ in seven months. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 07:54:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AD4106564A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F218FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=thor.vickiandstacey.com) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LMHcm-0000KZ-BV; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:54:16 +0000 Received: from thor.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thor.vickiandstacey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0C7pIaX031867; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:51:19 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@thor.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by thor.vickiandstacey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0C7pIKb031865; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:51:18 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:51:18 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20090112075118.GD1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, stacey@vickiandstacey.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49589883.lhmPNVeBMeI7aDqo%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <49618959.ytDnPW+y0ehAb8CV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090111122946.GA1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> <496ab55e.Ic0zjSbbhqUZJ9Uq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <496ab55e.Ic0zjSbbhqUZJ9Uq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, stacey@vickiandstacey.com Subject: Re: FIXED: vpnc connects, but does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:54:19 -0000 Hi perryh! Thanks for the reply.., On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > I also have this problem, the difference being that mine > > **USED to** work, but now it suddenly stoped working. > > I tried adding the line to my conf file as you did, but > > for me, the problem remains: > > > Appears to connect and authenticate successfully to my office's > > VPN concentrator Once (apparently) connected, I can't access any > > resources on the company network (mail / servers, etc), nor can > > I ping anything.., > > Including the IP address of your tun0 interface? (If you can ping > that, but nothing beyond, you have a different problem than I had.) > Nope - same as yours.., > > Wondering if you can point me to where you found the info on the > > various options I can try to continue debugging this problem, > > please. > > That line came from the output of "vpnc --long-help". > Other things to look at are the vpnc(8) manpage, the > /usr/local/share/doc/vpnc/README file, and the TODO > file in /usr/ports/security/vpnc/work/vpnc-0.4.0. > > There's more detail of what I think is going on in this thread: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2009-January/020638.html > By the time you get it working again, you will probably have learned > more about the workings of vpnc than you really cared to know :) > > > The FW guys at the office aren't exactly forthcoming where non-MS > > windows is concerned, you see.., > This is great - I had a peek, so will pour over these and see how I get on with further debugging.., Its not TOO bad on my side, as I do have a Linux OS that I have access to that strangely does use vpnc successfully. Will press on with the pointers you've provided here. Thanks for the help! Regards, S Roberts > Not surprising :( Too many security types act as if obscurity > helped security, not realizing that it inconveniences only their > customers and not their enemies. > > Any chance they would be willing to say what config change they made > on their end about the time it stopped working, without reference to > what is running on your end? Another thing to check is whether your > ISP changed something. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 09:10:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ECB106564A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DED8FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n0C9AowI062110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n0C9AovP062109; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA07517; Mon, 12 Jan 09 01:00:28 PST Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:02:34 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com Message-Id: <496b072a.ugr0wDBif8SM2vLD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49589883.lhmPNVeBMeI7aDqo%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <49618959.ytDnPW+y0ehAb8CV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090111122946.GA1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> <496ab55e.Ic0zjSbbhqUZJ9Uq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090112075118.GD1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> In-Reply-To: <20090112075118.GD1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FIXED: vpnc connects, but does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:10:51 -0000 > ... I do have a Linux OS that I have access > to that strangely does use vpnc successfully. That may help quite a bit. You can use something like tcpdump or wireshark on the FreeBSD system to monitor the traffic between the Linux system and the Cisco while connecting and doing something simple like pinging the inside nameserver, then reverse roles and use the Linux system to monitor the traffic between FreeBSD and the Cisco while connecting and attempting to do the same simple thing. You won't be able to see what's inside the IPSEC-encrypted packets, but you can at least see how many of what size are sent in each direction. This may provide some clues as to what is going wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 10:55:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC711065677 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE828FC1F for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sroberts@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=thor.vickiandstacey.com) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LMKSX-00046W-T0; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:55:54 +0000 Received: from thor.vickiandstacey.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thor.vickiandstacey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0CAqtwg043335; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:52:57 GMT (envelope-from sroberts@thor.vickiandstacey.com) Received: (from sroberts@localhost) by thor.vickiandstacey.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0CAqoRf043329; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:52:50 GMT (envelope-from sroberts) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:52:50 +0000 From: Stacey Roberts To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20090112105250.GE1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> Mail-Followup-To: perryh@pluto.rain.com, stacey@vickiandstacey.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49589883.lhmPNVeBMeI7aDqo%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <49618959.ytDnPW+y0ehAb8CV%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090111122946.GA1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> <496ab55e.Ic0zjSbbhqUZJ9Uq%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20090112075118.GD1484@thor.vickiandstacey.com> <496b072a.ugr0wDBif8SM2vLD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <496b072a.ugr0wDBif8SM2vLD%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, stacey@vickiandstacey.com Subject: Re: FIXED: vpnc connects, but does not work X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stacey@vickiandstacey.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:55:58 -0000 Hi perryh! On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > ... I do have a Linux OS that I have access > > to that strangely does use vpnc successfully. > > That may help quite a bit. You can use something like tcpdump or > wireshark on the FreeBSD system to monitor the traffic between the > Linux system and the Cisco while connecting and doing something > simple like pinging the inside nameserver, then reverse roles and > use the Linux system to monitor the traffic between FreeBSD and the > Cisco while connecting and attempting to do the same simple thing. > You won't be able to see what's inside the IPSEC-encrypted packets, > but you can at least see how many of what size are sent in each > direction. This may provide some clues as to what is going wrong. Alas, this is a multi-boot system where the Linux OS is installed - so no chance of that :-( I've just determined that it might not be a problem with vpnc..,as such. I got an ethernet connection to work just now, so it looks as if its just down to now vpnc is handling my wifi interface, for some reason. As I said originally, this **was** working, and now its stopped for some reason. I'm now fairly certain that its not got anything to do with vpnc natively, as I used the same vpnc conf file to successfully access the office over ethernet. I'll keep at it.., Thanks for your assistance! Regards, S Roberts > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 12:21:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14901106566B for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8068FC12 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1717136839; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:21:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id E897E3153B; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:21:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD66A3153B; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:21:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <496B35E0.6070103@esiee.fr> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:21:52 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <49670974.2060202@esiee.fr> <44sknr2ozn.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <496A158A.6060703@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <496A158A.6060703@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1 : watchdog bge0 timeout ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:21:55 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > [Lowell Gilbert] Uit een eerder bericht van 10-1-2009 15:51 :: >> Could be hardware trouble, I suppose. >> > I know FreeBSD can detect hardware probs better than other OS'es; but > why didn't 6.x detect this malfunction then? > I believe Murphy and his law, but for mee it seems a little bit too > accidentally L-) > > regards, > Jos Chrispijn Well I have re-install the machine at 6.4 and it runs WITHOUT any trouble with exactly same softwares ( OS + Postfix + Postgrey ) At 7.1 the machine hanged after running few hours ( ~2 ) At 6.4 it runs since 3 days without problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 14:24:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE971065670 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AEE58FC1A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from isis.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.63]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LMNhu-00051Z-GV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:24:06 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.238]) by isis.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LMNhp-0003ag-21 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:23:53 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost.men.bris.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0CENpxU045568 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:23:51 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0CENmBJ044993 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:23:48 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:23:47 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090112142347.GA22438@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Spam-Score: -1.4 X-Spam-Level: - Subject: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgcrypt.so.15" not found, required by "libgs.so.8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:24:08 -0000 I get this error in /var/spool/lpd/: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgcrypt.so.15" not found, required by "libgs.so.8" I use apsfilter, so I guess this must be something to do with ghostscript? Any advice? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 14:36:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46C81065676 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CFF8FC16 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:36:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8BAI/iakmkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAI0nmFb4Qy Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2009 15:36:39 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Anton Shterenlikht In-Reply-To: <20090112142347.GA22438@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> References: <20090112142347.GA22438@mech-cluster238.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:37:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1231771058.2733.2.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgcrypt.so.15" not found, required by "libgs.so.8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:36:42 -0000 vim /usr/ports/UPDATING: 20090107: AFFECTS: users of security/libgcrypt AUTHOR: rafan@FreeBSD.org libgcrypt has been upgraded to 1.4.3 which has a shared library version bump. You need to reinstall all ports depending on it. Use something like this: portupgrade -rf libgcrypt portmaster -r libgcrypt should be that .. On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 14:23 +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I get this error in /var/spool/lpd/: > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgcrypt.so.15" not found, required by "libgs.so.8" > > I use apsfilter, so I guess this must be something to do with ghostscript? > > Any advice? > > many thanks > anton > -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 14:39:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DF6106564A; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DBD8FC0A; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFE96D43F; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 34F1E844A7; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:39:21 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Eitan Shefi" References: <5D49E7A8952DC44FB38C38FA0D758EAD0164F6D6@mtlexch01.mtl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:39:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5D49E7A8952DC44FB38C38FA0D758EAD0164F6D6@mtlexch01.mtl.com> (Eitan Shefi's message of "Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:30:20 +0200") Message-ID: <86hc447fmu.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "/var/log/messages" logs appear in the output of "sysctl -a" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:39:23 -0000 "Eitan Shefi" writes: > I run "sysctl -a | less" why? DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 14:50:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC63F106564A; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3208FC1C; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A980E6D44C; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8EFEC844ED; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:50:55 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Peter Jeremy References: <468090.72533.qm@web45413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20090111083300.GC7054@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:50:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20090111083300.GC7054@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> (Peter Jeremy's message of "Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:33:00 +1100") Message-ID: <868wpg7f3k.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Kamlesh Patel , hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:50:57 -0000 Peter Jeremy writes: > Kamlesh Patel writes: > > How do i recover the system from this error. I can't reload the > > loader.old > > If you press any key during the first spinner [...] You can then > enter the name of the program you wish to run - eg /boot/loader.old That won't work - he changed the forth code, not the compiled code. > (or directly load /boot/kernel/kernel) That will work. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 15:08:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21C5106566B for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C781A8FC14 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so13841071wfg.7 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:08:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=2Z12Eq4tLJHT/0sexmkGq14zI1O0AFJ8jJlcqq9bDzE=; b=RLEyuSUV00+EXhAxGdJgU2aFmGo58VCLKfz3HIwO35CAQZG7NoAZqgeoHeye8/am2Q gZlJllIuj4ZAKvZqYwCpEMXOliIMo4e6QM+1eRrS3iENUmg1sD6clcjcKbbh1q6TFRw0 dQ9fOYwZC9R84Woyot6xKEbWWV7n8zkTboVcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LxY63KSxGO0tsFHW00vg04QwedsprJM8pAzd94TDaCrhnP+2k0b5B2hQhKOJcq7Zph Ck8D4ENYIoHCiL40CUSemy+4g8DQ0gDRZ67J6PKvYYSt3bOJCpD7asOBeDx0uYeFTpgs xEK/MO+EdQIEb9a6UYkGJ0mmjxPSvlNQSY0zE= Received: by 10.142.169.4 with SMTP id r4mr12218356wfe.262.1231772900467; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.132.16 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:08:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:08:20 -0500 From: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" To: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: how should I upgrade all these ports?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:08:21 -0000 Hi, I just csup my port tree this morning (01/12), and realized there is a whole lot ports need my attention (49 of them). I checked out UPDATES and found out that gnome and GTK+ have just been updated. But i don't have gtkmm or gnome-session installed, I wonder if I should still upgrade my ports just as described in the UPDATES. Here is the list: ===>>> New version available: gnomehier-2.3_11 ===>>> New version available: lame-3.98.2_1 ===>>> New version available: libcheck-0.9.6 ===>>> New version available: ORBit2-2.14.16 ===>>> New version available: arts-1.5.10_1,1 ===>>> New version available: atk-1.24.0 ===>>> New version available: cairo-1.8.6,1 ===>>> New version available: consolekit-0.3.0_3 ===>>> New version available: dbus-1.2.4.2 ===>>> New version available: dbus-glib-0.78 ===>>> New version available: esound-0.2.41 ===>>> New version available: fontconfig-2.6.0,1 ===>>> New version available: gamin-0.1.10 ===>>> New version available: gconf2-2.24.0 ===>>> New version available: gio-fam-backend-2.18.4 ===>>> New version available: glib-2.18.4 ===>>> New version available: gnome-doc-utils-0.14.2 ===>>> New version available: gnome-icon-theme-2.24.0_2 ===>>> New version available: gnome-keyring-2.24.1_1 ===>>> New version available: gnome-vfs-2.24.0 ===>>> New version available: gtk-2.14.7 ===>>> New version available: gtk-engines2-2.16.1 ===>>> New version available: gvfs-1.0.3 ===>>> New version available: hal-0.5.11_10 ===>>> New version available: libbonobo-2.24.0 ===>>> New version available: libbonoboui-2.24.0 ===>>> New version available: libgnome-2.24.1 ===>>> New version available: libgnomeui-2.24.0 ===>>> New version available: libgsf-1.14.11 ===>>> New version available: libnotify-0.4.5 ===>>> New version available: librsvg2-2.22.3_1 ===>>> New version available: libsoup-2.24.2.1 ===>>> New version available: libxml2-2.7.2_1 ===>>> New version available: pango-1.22.4 ===>>> New version available: pixman-0.12.0 ===>>> New version available: policykit-0.9_2 ===>>> New version available: policykit-gnome-0.9.2 ===>>> New version available: py25-cairo-1.8.0_2 ===>>> New version available: py25-gobject-2.16.0 ===>>> New version available: py25-gtk-2.13.0_1 ===>>> New version available: py25-libxml2-2.7.2 ===>>> New version available: firefox-3.0.5_1,1 ===>>> New version available: firefox-3.0.a2_5,1 ===>>> New version available: gnome-menus-2.24.2 ===>>> New version available: intltool-0.40.5 ===>>> New version available: libgweather-2.24.2 ===>>> New version available: libwnck-2.24.2 ===>>> New version available: py25-orbit-2.24.0 ===>>> New version available: webkit-gtk2-1.0.1_4 ===>>> 49 have new versions available thank you!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 15:20:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17181106568D for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C847C8FC1B for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2009 10:20:55 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KOG73690; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2009 10:20:44 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18795.24524.161487.807679@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:20:44 -0500 To: "Tsu-Fan Cheng" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: how should I upgrade all these ports?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:20:58 -0000 Tsu-Fan Cheng writes: > I just csup my port tree this morning (01/12), and realized > there is a whole lot ports need my attention (49 of them). I > checked out UPDATES and found out that gnome and GTK+ have just > been updated. But i don't have gtkmm or gnome-session installed, > I wonder if I should still upgrade my ports just as described in > the UPDATES. In short, yes. Many (but not all) of these a) are part of GNOME or b) have a GNOME component in their dependencies. The update procedure is there for a reason. (Advice: make sure you have the latest vesion of UPDATING. Additional useful information was added in the last 24 hours.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 15:28:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981F9106564A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B6C8FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah8BAI7wakmkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAI0nGFbw Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP; 12 Jan 2009 16:28:42 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Tsu-Fan Cheng In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:29:42 +0100 Message-Id: <1231774182.2733.5.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: how should I upgrade all these ports?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:28:46 -0000 Always read /usr/ports/UPDATING before any upgrade. After that you can use portmaster (the one I use) or portupgrade to upgrade all those outdated ports with a single command : portmaster -avd On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 10:08 -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I just csup my port tree this morning (01/12), and realized there is > a whole lot ports need my attention (49 of them). I checked out > UPDATES and found out that gnome and GTK+ have just been updated. But > i don't have gtkmm or gnome-session installed, I wonder if I should > still upgrade my ports just as described in the UPDATES. Here is the > list: > > ===>>> New version available: gnomehier-2.3_11 > ===>>> New version available: lame-3.98.2_1 > ===>>> New version available: libcheck-0.9.6 > ===>>> New version available: ORBit2-2.14.16 > ===>>> New version available: arts-1.5.10_1,1 > ===>>> New version available: atk-1.24.0 > ===>>> New version available: cairo-1.8.6,1 > ===>>> New version available: consolekit-0.3.0_3 > ===>>> New version available: dbus-1.2.4.2 > ===>>> New version available: dbus-glib-0.78 > ===>>> New version available: esound-0.2.41 > ===>>> New version available: fontconfig-2.6.0,1 > ===>>> New version available: gamin-0.1.10 > ===>>> New version available: gconf2-2.24.0 > ===>>> New version available: gio-fam-backend-2.18.4 > ===>>> New version available: glib-2.18.4 > ===>>> New version available: gnome-doc-utils-0.14.2 > ===>>> New version available: gnome-icon-theme-2.24.0_2 > ===>>> New version available: gnome-keyring-2.24.1_1 > ===>>> New version available: gnome-vfs-2.24.0 > ===>>> New version available: gtk-2.14.7 > ===>>> New version available: gtk-engines2-2.16.1 > ===>>> New version available: gvfs-1.0.3 > ===>>> New version available: hal-0.5.11_10 > ===>>> New version available: libbonobo-2.24.0 > ===>>> New version available: libbonoboui-2.24.0 > ===>>> New version available: libgnome-2.24.1 > ===>>> New version available: libgnomeui-2.24.0 > ===>>> New version available: libgsf-1.14.11 > ===>>> New version available: libnotify-0.4.5 > ===>>> New version available: librsvg2-2.22.3_1 > ===>>> New version available: libsoup-2.24.2.1 > ===>>> New version available: libxml2-2.7.2_1 > ===>>> New version available: pango-1.22.4 > ===>>> New version available: pixman-0.12.0 > ===>>> New version available: policykit-0.9_2 > ===>>> New version available: policykit-gnome-0.9.2 > ===>>> New version available: py25-cairo-1.8.0_2 > ===>>> New version available: py25-gobject-2.16.0 > ===>>> New version available: py25-gtk-2.13.0_1 > ===>>> New version available: py25-libxml2-2.7.2 > ===>>> New version available: firefox-3.0.5_1,1 > ===>>> New version available: firefox-3.0.a2_5,1 > ===>>> New version available: gnome-menus-2.24.2 > ===>>> New version available: intltool-0.40.5 > ===>>> New version available: libgweather-2.24.2 > ===>>> New version available: libwnck-2.24.2 > ===>>> New version available: py25-orbit-2.24.0 > ===>>> New version available: webkit-gtk2-1.0.1_4 > ===>>> 49 have new versions available > > > thank you!! > > TFC > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 15:58:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5023106564A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C768FC13 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so12224680rvf.43 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:58:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JU7tCstcZJU3oMS1eEGAtCHPVGAuYC3iW1JC/MgYiYo=; b=CU48pSlWA7dOc/H8KPuUgR51YfVhFVTGwtYxnEhyZT+qxe/WaeEj6/6zpfsVx4oSKv WZafxWOfHEz7SZMCbXWXGcI5sSc4KQoGABbZd+urYjM4p4qSktzVvmSp4itD3WwaQTDM PsRHIMh6GvrOv7ZI+kk0aLhkROdmmMHiu0QO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=acOk4y0SCoXCTzAhpXF3Pu4Q262chNhCI7K0EAgZY2vPfUK5lEsNsoIcWIrukyEH6C rkRCmHmDmj4NKttmjqS9lQBsGK3nSEFVCr1ps2fYH75xTpTR8wFB5LiQWDOPgsjs5jVq 7444MgmFRuSJgy4HjHygvBsYRswJUtHmpbrhY= Received: by 10.141.44.13 with SMTP id w13mr14641356rvj.18.1231775908154; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.4.70? (c-76-113-34-1.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [76.113.34.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm35248092rvb.1.2009.01.12.07.58.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:58:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <496B68AC.9090800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:58:36 -0700 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Miklosovic References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: creating own CVSup server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:58:29 -0000 Stefan Miklosovic wrote: > Hi all, > > I decided to set up my own CVSup server just for my local > network. After reading all related stuff I should find, I have > solid knowledge about this issue but one thing disturbed my mind. > > My pc, server which I will mirroring from, is also downloading > source tree from another server (cvsup.at.freebsd.org) to /usr/src > directory. I will download my src tree once a week. > When I am going to set up cvsup server on my own, cvsup-mirror > asks me, where I want to download files I just purchased. Default > directory is "/home/ncvs". > > My question is, can be downloading directory /usr/src ? > Which reason should I place downloading files to /home/ncvs for? > Does it matter ? Can I serve my own src tree for other computers? > Does it have to be stored twice? > > thank you > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" You are mirroring the CVS source tree, you are not making a subversion server for your own stuff. I've used this cvs mirror utility before. You're mirroring a database, which has metainfo, versioning info, plus a whole lot more. You can't simply dump this database-type of files into /usr/src and get your system to use them. (There won't be a Makefile for example). You need to store them to another location outside /usr/src -- /home/ncvs is a good place since the uid and gid that the cvs will serve as is called 'ncvs' I'd keep progressing forward, leaving the defaults alone. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 16:22:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2995B106566B for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from srvdmz13.oekb.co.at (srvdmz13.oekb.co.at [143.245.5.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F6B8FC0A for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a@jenisch.at) Received: from msc01-n1 [143.245.2.187] by srvdmz13.oekb.co.at - SurfControl E-mail Filter (6.0.0); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:22:16 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at ([143.245.9.16]) by MAIL1.oekb.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:22:16 +0100 Received: from aurora.oekb.co.at (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0CGMGZY006403 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:22:16 +0100 Received: (from ej@localhost) by aurora.oekb.co.at (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n0CGMGNF006402 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:22:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: aurora.oekb.co.at: ej set sender to a@jenisch.at using -f Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:22:16 +0100 From: Ewald Jenisch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090112162216.GA6391@aurora.oekb.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2009 16:22:16.0294 (UTC) FILETIME=[EEF74860:01C974D1] X-SEF-ZeroHour-RefID: fgs=0 X-SEF-7853D99-ADF1-478E-8894-213D316B8FFA: 1 X-SEF-Processed: 6_0_0_39__2009_01_12_17_22_16 Subject: Printing - standard? CUPS? ...?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:22:19 -0000 Hi, For a system set up from scratch (7.1) I'm about to set up printing. Printer: Minolta C351 (basically a networked PS-Printer also capable of color) My requirements: Print from mutt (mail), print text files, print PS-files with the ability to print duplex and 2-up both in color and b/w. Should I go for the standard vanilla FreeBSD lpr that comes with the system or use anything else? If "anything else" - what (CUPS,...?) Please note that I want to print both from gnome (X-win) as well as via the commadline. Thanks in advance for any clue, -ewald From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 12 16:25:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B0F106566C for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:25:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08368FC17 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:25:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n0CGPKTu018588; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:25:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n0CGPJhJ018587; Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:25:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:25:19 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister <