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Date:      Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:13:10 +0100
From:      Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>
To:        Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Wayland on FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <20200421221310.3cff2c00bba2226716db0da4@sohara.org>
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 23:02:58 +0200
Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:07:41 +0200
> > Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 19:18:51 -0600, @lbutlr wrote:
> >> > On 20 Apr 2020, at 02:24, Ihor Antonov <ngor@antonovs.family> wrote:
> >> > > But even in 10 years FreeBSD hackers will keep using rotting X11
> >> > 
> >> > Perhaps. A tiny percentage. The rest will continue as they are now,
> >> > avoiding X11 at all costs because it is insecure bloat that
> >> > interferes with the desired operation of the machine.
> >> 
> >> Depends. If Wayland can offer all features that X11 offers at
> >> the moment,
> >
> > 	Wayland is not network transparent which has always been the
> > major advantage (and disadvantage) of X11 over everything else.
> 
> Did you try net/waypipe port/package ?

	First I've heard of it, that might make Wayland worth looking at
(I find network transparency useful often enough not to want to lose it),
although with my odd tastes it might be hard finding a Wayland WM I like.

> X11 network transparency is also
> available via Xwayland which is started automatically.

	Sure, but if I'm going to use X I might as well use X.

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