From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 7 23:49:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA707C1; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 23:49:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-x230.google.com (mail-we0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A68CC2EAD; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 23:49:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id w62so6100908wes.21 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:49:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1vMiUucIvuzE+FOZ+a0uYyjV1vml85rM7TBDlVlHjVA=; b=y8juO35/J9m7xsTi7G+0m+nghsSNHfa8POmwR+s2OiX+3ZXKHxioGILrgFgVn6wToq 797QbbAjlh/eM8BE1YiJGHTUzLd7FE6AeJMnUBkUOzeGm97mzxJmIMBz9lQkikZtUULQ 8xSCOOMvFwfVdAzwnHjHgoO9C1n5w9Ceqvkyvr5RVJQb86BsU4tp2TNcWODssV86Kxyt p1yDzCNVlFbLL8Qn0xFBMjxdkd6GUz7eMhTUpVdYBYgdsx9g/jw2wxaIkSx9Md7FKBIq jCTxiYH+bke3JaoPgSRs6IrRNudXnI6U80RbyZo5bXrXfwq2fL4wPFtGr9y2t+9gi+Ul 0XPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.10.136 with SMTP id i8mr21598019wib.46.1381189744137; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.73.133 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:49:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <525347DD.5090702@freebsd.org> References: <29D748F4-5E38-4587-BC7F-0141234C2F62@orthanc.ca> <6CEFF9B8-A62A-4616-A0FF-BDDDE1027A7E@FreeBSD.org> <132C8A43-E822-49C3-A1EA-493A40449AD4@orthanc.ca> <525347DD.5090702@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:49:04 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aH_TtVewlfdFMmc7b1FgjyzFNys Message-ID: Subject: Re: rcs is gone? From: Adrian Chadd To: Julian Elischer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , Lyndon Nerenberg X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 23:49:06 -0000 I've asked on IRC to figure out when this was first proposed. I'll see if it was announced anywhere or if Eitan snuck it in. -a On 7 October 2013 16:46, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/8/13 7:37 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Then you and others should stand up and provide feedback like this far, >> far >> earlier in the development process. >> > > Adiran this is the first I've heard of removing RCS. > > I would have screamed about it had I heard anything.. > > so now that I officially register my request for a backout > can we have it back please? > > > > >> If everyone who communicates says "x" and no-one says anything about the >> other letters "a"->"w", "y", "z", then we as developers don't really have >> a >> good cross-section of what people actually need. >> >> If you truely are doing things that require this level of service(s), then >> I encourage you to contact the FreeBSD Foundation and communicate exactly >> what your requirements are and why. They'll be able to steer things. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> -adrian >> >> >> >> On 7 October 2013 16:00, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >> >> On 2013-10-07, at 3:45 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >>> >>> Having RCS in the base system is very useful. We use it to track >>>> >>> changes to bits of /etc on the machines where we don't do wholesale >>> customizations. (Those ones get git, but they also get an install of >>> /usr/ports with a fully populated /usr/ports/distfiles.) >>> >>> To clarify, the git-enabled machines are a small isolated subset of the >>> development machines. Then comes the test and q/a environment, where we >>> (by contract) roll nothing beyond the base OS and our application >>> software. >>> >>> There are other development shops dealing with the same restrictions. >>> Most of them have to stay quiet about these requirements on account of >>> the >>> Homeland Security. They are all getting buggered over by the fallacy >>> that >>> everyone has a gigabit ethernet connection permanently wired into their >>> ass >>> ... >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**current >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@** >>> freebsd.org " >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@** >> freebsd.org " >> >> >> >