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Date:      Tue, 24 Jul 2001 21:12:25 -0700
From:      Ray Kohler <rkohler1@cox.rr.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Looks like (some) networking is broken
Message-ID:  <084423909011971FE8@mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com>

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7/24/01 5:04:04 PM, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:

>On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 07:11:29PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:32 -0700
>> Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 06:47:04PM -0400, Ray Kohler wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Something committed recently (within the last 24 hours) has broken
>> > > networking for me. I can look hosts up just fine but can't connect
>> > > to them (i. e. Netscape, ftp, telnet, etc sit at "connecting to xxx"
>> > > or "trying xxx.xxx.x.xx"). Going back to yesterday's kernel build
>> > > fixes the problem. If you want any more info from me then just ask.
>> > 
>> > Did you make world along with your new kernel?  How about modules?
>> 
>> Didn't make world, but did rebuild modules. (Not that I was using
>> any relevant ones anyway, the only .ko I use is linux ;) And just
>> for the record, I'm not using gif(4).
>
>You have to make world whenever you update your kernel sources.

If a kernel change is that drastic then there ought to be a message in 
UPDATING. It shouldn't take an 8-hour process to (say) get a small 
bugfix in place. (And please do not just quote UPDATING to me, I've read it.)
I don't want to sound like a troll or flamer but this has never been a hard 
requirement before and I don't see why it is now.


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