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Nate Lawson wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Tim Kientzle wrote:
> 
>>Seems like it might be time to evaluate ways to separate
>>the "default hints" from the "custom hints".
>>   /boot/defaults/device.hints, anyone?
> 
> This is not helpful since my whole point was not to create more places
> where user overrides go.  loader.conf is blank by default, therefore it's
> an easy place to put overrides for both hints and tunables.  Going and
> creating two separate files that are blank by default only increases
> confusion.

Okay, so what exactly is the difference between
    /boot/defaults/loader.conf
and
    /boot/device.hints
?

If device hints can go in loader.conf with impunity,
and we already have defaults/loader.conf (which people
know to leave alone) and the regular loader.conf
(for local customizations), then it's not clear
why device.hints exists at all.

Tim Kientzle