From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Sun May 20 02:50:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDBCEEF439 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonic312-23.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic312-23.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.69.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 752AB6AFF3 for ; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pfg@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1526784640; bh=9o9B/MygntYuRHz6f3qg3PpOK+hGHTwWeYxu0VEKctI=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=aeXmNft5+UuA5NGxGzF6N1hRTzPl6CNLvL6EAqUw7SnYKN/PLeyAwjFX+14WDUhxpoQkp2D77843hIZ5Rrkpjyr/9nQ3BmThZwdbpIUjXCh3dLOi8lBRb0Itp/Si6o6R9m2aTB3ZmIE8YHaVJea85VIkHgabgoYRiWx+VjRSQOaVp+FpM/+abQUcepZAPVvWwYLbpByNigeMTzRvmiJ2nBpR+mjY21ODf5xzXXNbfJwWO5raZ4HxMm7g1u730lOwsA41YO/GwzXXCvvfgRVrcN5YO5b7y72q02wxc5ElttoHi3k9srokFxt8cpRP4qV10qhO42Wpkf1bYUgWCkpktA== X-YMail-OSG: fcBLcAgVM1kqNVgTM2UtBa_JALHEOe5nDhGhpgYTl3ZK1i1DcU3zqIRRu_HOX7a 2Ed8u4T7U7djLZ5sARpBsUP8DRDGjc84G2sRfzNBor6MfVJTxBVjR84H8vF8RbvCPa8xp5hLmxeo 2Y.D74P26B_Y3rDo_DVkdj16IrW8ZXnO.hAliPbhqZsQuuscLmEUYjQARBD.WZad7wL6iOY_U2qM ObAXbGEE5E.Rfq9D1x8J5bFRtVd8.cH4xvG32AhmJcDiMRshs.beNsQuktp17gIW6NwyyTqKq6Ex zjcWdgniaFf053LY41knv4j6yisNhG38n1m3QgMNCSO1Wm4.SHm63HdJv2MCDOhkKoGJ7rbpiKSm itSLwgRQqfQPNm.bpLWeieBKHgmqv7p2V31of3e4JmV0KheB.JYOdMJfmFep9Uc72Emw1OnXFFR. XTpk2_izOK1pegxevOKg1NOkv1vhaQ0IGalwnqPCQWdwr.Q.ACCEOup.n0OgPJIkVtOstSBcF5Oi QGAQRK2RuFNRxQl9_WkgEfH7WboPU.fraMBRw5TCdXo5K0z_kF9VipK6.Od.sh8svF4lnOp_mrVr GFeLiSidAbBoumaNXCq3gvnWd1L9vHrUEkaFDTM7R4rrUps8JfEGIIiBTnEsmURmLSoY- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:50:40 +0000 Received: from 181.52.72.201 (EHLO [192.168.0.6]) ([181.52.72.201]) by smtp425.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f1782f46b069ff459d2a9e968630c60d; Sun, 20 May 2018 02:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r333880 - head/sys/kern To: Warner Losh , Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Warner Losh , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org References: <201805191729.w4JHTvOo032116@repo.freebsd.org> <201805191945.w4JJjMlk017155@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <6814.1526761972@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Pedro Giffuni Organization: FreeBSD Project Message-ID: <637a69d0-fbc9-552b-49fd-9d029eb592f4@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 21:40:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 02:50:43 -0000 On 19/05/2018 16:02, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp > wrote: > > -------- > In message > > > , Warner Losh writes: > > >> > Log: > >> >   Restore the all rights reserved language. > > "All Rights Reserved" is boilerplate from the old "Buenos Aires" > copyright convention, (a purely N+S American affair) and it lost > all meaning and relevance for UCB when USA ratified the Berne > Convention 60 years ago. > > > The US ratified the Berne Convention in 1989, which falls in the > middle of the 4.x BSD releases... Relevant for 4.3, but not 4.4. > > The final Buenos Aires signatory joined Berne a couple of decades > ago, rendering the convention null and void, and therefore this > boilerplate has no meaning or relevance for anybody. > > > Right, I get that. However, someone removed it. Even though it's > useless at this point, I don't believe we can remove it. > For the record, and with the usual disclaimer that I am *not* a lawyer ... I attended a talk from a lawyer from Google that explained adding the "All Rights Reserved" line didn't mean what it intended to mean previously (or much at all) but that removing it was intended as having a meaning. In sum, and while I didn't completely grasp the issue is not clear all lawyers would agree on removing the line. For old code it is what is, but perhaps the effort should be done for new code, starting here: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/pref-license.html Feel free to take it to core and a real lawyer :). Cheers, Pedro.