Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:54:26 -0500 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" <pfg1+@pitt.edu> To: clefevre@poboxes.com Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Ronald Joe Record <rr@sco.com> Subject: Re: pkgtools (was Re: FreeBSD sources from 20000') Message-ID: <3A9EEF42.2743EE8F@pitt.edu> References: <200102271136.f1RBa4R12865@gratis.grondar.za> <20010301140013.A2969@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010301162753.A2990@rapier.smartspace.co.za> <3A9E7CC4.B4A9C43C@newsguy.com> <g0gx14yj.fsf_-_@gits.dyndns.org>
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I think this was discussed long ago, my posting with the same URL must
be somewhere in the archives.
Back then the license was not considered a show stopper, but no one
got to port it because the functionality of those tools is very
similar to the ones already in FreeBSD. I would like to see this
simply because they are sort of a standard for UNIX and we don't claim
to be non-UNIX.
In those days Ronald Record was also trying to free a bigger set of
C++ tools. I have used the installer on SCO's Unixware and it's very
nice, but that's IMHO. Packaging tools can be the root of another
religious war.
Unfortunately the 86open effort died miserably with a "Linux seems
quite popular" comment after a long silence.
Pedro.
Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
>
> "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> writes:
>
> > Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
> > >
> > > LGPL will mean that any changes we make to the library itself will have
> > > to be made available (or simply a pointer to an ftp site), but the
> > > callback mechanisms should allow extensibility for a BSD-licensed
> > > package backend, and BSD-licensed package fetchers, and so forth.
> >
> > Notice that an LGPLed installer would be unacceptable to some FreeBSD
> > users.
>
> I'm currently asking Ronald J. Record at SCO about the license status
> of the pkgtools. I'm also asking the openpackages team about these tools.
> you probably have comments in favor or against these tools ?
>
> --------========-------- forwarded message --------========--------
> To: op-tech@openpackages.org
> Subject: pkgtools
> From: Cyrille Lefevre <clefevre@poboxes.com>
> Date: 01 Mar 2001 05:08:52 +0100
>
> Hi,
>
> some days ago, it was a discussion on freebsd-arch (as I remember)
> about providing some part of the FreeBSD userland (almost all contrib
> stuffs) as some sort of module (even ports !). an interesting link to
> SVR4 packaging tools was posted (details below). so, I've take a look
> at the code and it needs some work to be ported to BSD platforms.
> since the license isn't clear, I'm asking SCO about the status of this
> open source software. before to go forward, I'm asking you if you're
> interested by such tools which seems to be almost the same as the one
> found under Solaris ?
>
> below is the question and the first (fast) answer from Ronald
> J. Record and before to answer him, I would like your opinion ?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> --------========-------- forwarded message --------========--------
> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:53:32 -0800
> From: Ronald Joe Record <rr@sco.com>
> To: clefevre@poboxes.com
> cc: skunkware@sco.com
> Subject: Re: pkgtools
>
> Hi Cyrille,
>
> The release of the pkgtools source was initiated at the behest
> of the 86Open group (http://www.telly.org/86open/86open-faq.html).
> The subsequent, uh, dissolution of this project (or transformation
> into lxrun/LKP) resulted in an unfinished release of these tools.
>
> I would concur that a BSD license would be appropriate but i'll
> need to obtain approval and find the time. It might help me speed
> things along if you were able to tell me why these tools are
> important for the *BSD systems.
>
> At any rate, i would recommend against putting any effort into a
> port until i get the license situation straightened out.
> -rr-
>
> re:
>
> Cyrille Lefevre wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just discovered the pkgtools at "SCO Skunkware: Open Source Software"
> > (http://www.sco.com/skunkware/devtools/) which seems to be the packaging
> > software used under SVR4 like OSes (UnixWare, Solaris, etc.).
> >
> > do you know the author of the original version of these tools ?
> > are they really Open Source ? are you working for SCO ?
> >
> > I've asked vit@auriga.ru (I found his email address in the source
> > code.) w/o any answer from him.
> >
> > I'm interested to porting these tools to *BSD and before to do any
> > efforts, I would like to be fixed about the license status of these
> > tools.
> >
> > The best thing would be, of course, to add a BSD like license to
> > the source code or at the top level of the distribution found at :
> >
> > http://www.sco.com/skunkware/src/sysadmin/pkg-15.1-src.tar.gz
> >
> > thanks in advance for your response.
>
> --
> Ronald Joe Record, Open Source Architect, The Santa Cruz Operation
> WWW: http://www.ocston.org/rr http://www.sco.com/skunkware
> E-mail: rr@sco.com Voice: 831-427-7604 FAX: 831-427-5417
> USPS: 400 Encinal Street, Santa Cruz, California 95061
>
> Cyrille.
> --
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