Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:27:21 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster and restarting of upgraded daemons Message-ID: <47E676D9.3040603@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <20080323150407.GA41098@atarininja.org> References: <47E660A3.3050805@quip.cz> <20080323144823.GA72507@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080323150407.GA41098@atarininja.org>
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Wesley Shields wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 07:48:23AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >>On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 02:52:35PM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote: >> >>>I am almost new to portmaster, so I got a question - is there any >>>possibility to restart installed services as in portupgrade with defined >>>BEFOREBUILD / BEFOREDEINSTALL / AFTERINSTALL? Or is there any future plan >>>to do so? It is annoying if I end up with some dead services after upgrade >>>just because I forgot to manualy do /usr/local/etc/rc.d/some_daemon restart >> >>This is more a complaint about the existing ports infrastructure, as >>IMHO, it's something that should be handled there and not necessarily by >>"third-party" port management utilities. >> >>Some existing ports (such as smartmontools, i.e. smartd) do this, while >>others (such as postfix) do not. > > > There is an @stopdaemon facility which can be used in the plist. In > fact, it might be a smart idea to remove the way smartmontools does it > and replace it with @stopdaemon for consistency sake. > > >>There are pros and cons to what you want. I myself have never managed >>to conclude if the pros outweigh the cons -- or vice-versa -- but I have >>thought about it before. > > > Personally, I do not want anything stopping or starting services on it's > own. That is something that I, as an administrator, should be handling. > Of course others are entitled to disagree. :) If I am upgrading just one port, I can restart it manualy, but if I do someting like `portmaster -a`, it is long running job and I do not want to wait and check for each port when it is right time to manualy restart the daemon. So I think portmaster can have some hooks to call user defined code (sourced from portmaster.rc?) before or after install routine. > With that said, it may be interesting to have a knob which allows for > services to be started right away if desired by the user, and if the > port supports such a situation (ie: it does not require any > configuration after the install). The default for the user-defined knob > would be off, for at least POLA reasons. Miroslav Lachman
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