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Date:      Sun, 08 May 2005 02:09:37 +0200
From:      Alex de Kruijff <akruijff@dds.nl>
To:        Marc Fonvieille <blackend@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Mailinglist privacy: MY NAME ALL OVER GOOGLE!
Message-ID:  <20050508000937.GG1896@Alex.lan>
In-Reply-To: <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org>
References:  <20050506103934.10FA34BEAD@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> <20050506105433.GA84877@orion.daedalusnetworks.priv> <2410174336.20050506130648@wanadoo.fr> <20050506151316.GA586@gothic.blackend.org> <20050507004923.GE3564@Alex.lan> <20050507083804.GA622@gothic.blackend.org>

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On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 10:38:04AM +0200, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:49:23AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
> > > 
> > > Well, the "Mailing lists" link on http://www.FreeBSD.org/ homepage
> > > points on
> > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL
> > 
> > That true and this would be a fine argument if this where the only way
> > to get the list adress. This isn't the case. Now it the warning you
> > get, afther you get before you are realy on the list, would point to
> > this stating it got the conditions then this would be a compelling
> > argument.
> >
> 
> All, and I said "All", mailing list subscribing forms mention their
> archives ("To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit
> the freebsd-blahblah Archives.").  It is impossible to miss it.

I take you word for it. I didn't realy mean to fight this. More the
mirroring (excluded www.xx.freebsd.org) like google and such.

> Another thing, I do not really see many ways to discover the existence
> of a FreeBSD mailing list:
> 
> - from archives via google or the FreeBSD.org search system
> - from FreeBSD.org docs
> - from the www.FreeBSD.org front page
> - from a clairvoyant?
> 
> and these ways (at least most of them) clearly indicate the existence of
> archives.
> Anyway, it's just a false problem, it makes me think about a person
> going to a TV show then later refusing to have "his face" recorded and
> broadcasted...

Sending a mail to a maillinglist means sending thousend of copies to the
subscribers. This is a natural thing just like going on a TV show means
it going to be broadcast. But having it go into a archive is not a
natural thing. Thats way a user should be pointed to this. (As is the
case.) This is also true for the mirroring to other non freebsd related
sites like google. I beleave this is not the case.

-- 
Alex



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