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Date:      Sun, 11 Nov 2018 22:46:05 +0000
From:      Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>
To:        Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Graphics open-source-friendliness, AMD Ryzen vs. Intel
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I have an AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (with Vega graphics) and it panics all the time
with references to various memory access errors (use after free among
other).

Ubuntu is also unstable on this machine but Windows 10 works well after a
windows update (I had to reinstall the previous motherboard with older cpu
to be able to run Windows update without crash...)

>From my experience, stay away from this CPU.

On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 18:57 Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 2018-11-11 12:54, Greg V wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 3:42 PM, Thomas Mueller <mueller6722@twc.com>
> > wrote:
> >> I may need to buy parts for a new computer because of malfunctions on
> >> current motherboard and CPU (Intel Sandy Bridge dating to May 2011).
> >>
> >> Question is whether I am better off, regarding
> >> open-source-friendliness of graphics chips for running Xorg, with AMD
> >> Ryzen or the newer Intel chipsets.  I know to avoid NVIDIA.
> >
>
> My FreeBSD workstation use an nVidia Quadro K1200 and it works very well
> under FreeBSD with the nVidia kernel driver from ports.
>
> > Both are great for open source friendliness in general.
> >
> > Onboard Vega GPUs on the Ryzen APUs should work fine on FreeBSD with
> > kms-drm 4.16.
> >
> > If you're looking for high performance though, don't get an APU, get an
> > 8-core (R7 2700X/2700/1700X/1700) and a discrete GPU (Radeon RX
> > 550/560/570/580 depending on how much you care about graphics
> performance).
> >
> >> I am inclined to run FreeBSD-current and build Xorg from FreeBSD ports.
> >>
> >> When I boot into UEFI setup, I see the CPU temperature is or quickly
> >> goes to 97 C and stays there.
> >>
> >> I tried replacing the thermal paste and installing a new case fan to
> >> replace one that had quit, but CPU temperature still shows and stays
> >> at 97 C.
> >>
> >> Now I have a replacement Arctic Cooler heatsink and fan on order to
> >> replace the original Intel heatsink and fan whose connectors were
> >> damaged in taking out and struggling to get back in.
> >>
> >> Currently, I boot into UEFI Setup, but after a couple minutes, the
> >> computer powers off and then tries to power back on, then off again a
> >> few seconds later, until I end the loop by turning off the power
> >> supply switch.  I can guess CPU overheating.
> >
> > Yeah, a new CPU cooler should help.
> >
> >> I could transplant the current hard drive (Seagate NAS 4 TB) to get a
> >> quicker start software-wise.
> >
> > An SSD might provide a quicker start too ;)
> >
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> --
> Allan Jude
>
>



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