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Date:      Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:03:47 +1000 (Australia/ACT)
From:      Darren Reed <avalon@caligula.anu.edu.au>
To:        daniel@benzedrine.cx (Daniel Hartmeier)
Cc:        Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, freebsd-pf@freebsd.org, Ari Suutari <ari@suutari.iki.fi>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Any ongoing effort to port /etc/rc.d/pf_boot,
Message-ID:  <200607170603.k6H63lgD017631@caligula.anu.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <20060716214456.GE3240@insomnia.benzedrine.cx> from "Daniel Hartmeier" at Jul 16, 2006 11:44:56 PM

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In some mail from Daniel Hartmeier, sie said:
...
> I'm not sure the average user _really_ is worried enough about that
> half a second period on boot. But I DO know there will be people locking
> themselves out from far-away remote hosts (on updates, for instance) if
> this becomes the default.

For me this has always been the over riding reason to have IPFilter
always default (as shipped) to default allow.  There are just too
many things that can go wrong that can lead to no access to a system.

That said, I believe NetBSD (and FreeBSD?) have this:

options IPFILTER_DEFAULT_BLOCK

You might want to do something similar for pf to make this easier
for those who (think they) now what they're doing.

Darren



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