From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 3 20:53:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235349936D5 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2015 20:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yk0-x235.google.com (mail-yk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c07::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D42771642 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2015 20:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wfdudley@gmail.com) Received: by ykdy1 with SMTP id y1so104200556ykd.2 for ; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 13:53:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zxnKmBsnDI+r9rlUesGIxVBjAmlJMGUcjbaS8zkwKEU=; b=Xjj3BTx0U+vI+Jgmk8qoeRMxm46n5jvkBHVL99pX+YBbOVn7eMQCSwuyp9gnYBDp/J nTUIGQDyVaIjNqBugdOk7DTtTsEd9VPW2AuoqwUX652QTSNLzaka6QHsw0c0W1c2EA3K /xts1ueoRFvTDtmxcmwYKbm+pRLbmCRasO/IkqVDoStbDJG2CaxqmC+G/AYxW9y0BAyI S9VwpyNzC0XRfPKhH+g4uDWz9rSl0veWvxmF1ZiV1N8ADMgF4lGIeLTc80pZzgakcPet 6iqMuT+KYhdCFNJye/T6qt1/ZX2mqvYvJiGtZdPqKCZ0mCS0Xy14LfqxR5vPdI60kQKF 5zSg== X-Received: by 10.170.129.84 with SMTP id v81mr46304248ykb.124.1435956806771; Fri, 03 Jul 2015 13:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.27.26] (mail.casano.com. [98.109.205.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t125sm10167422ywd.55.2015.07.03.13.53.25 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Jul 2015 13:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5596F645.6030101@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 16:53:25 -0400 From: "William F. Dudley Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: portmaster -af fails due to dead port - HELP References: <20150702195510.GA2863@oslo.ath.cx> <20150703023514.GA4554@neutralgood.org> <5595FC4A.6020402@gmail.com> <86bnft1e4h.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <20150703195828.GA6560@neutralgood.org> In-Reply-To: <20150703195828.GA6560@neutralgood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 20:53:28 -0000 Thanks to everybody for their help. I am now much further along in my upgrade, which was complicated by the fact that this is a running server, and I didn't want to interrupt the users more than a little bit, so "delete all the ports, install all the packages" was less than ideal for me. (And this is just barely above "hobby level" stuff, so I don't have the luxury of building up a new machine and cutting over to it after it's ready. The upgrade has to be done in place.) I have found that I can replace the old ports with packages a little bit at a time, thus minimizing the outages. The various bits of help with commands has been invaluable to me, and though I might have eventually figured this all out on my own, your help has greatly sped the process. I may sound like I'm some kind of noob, but in reality I've been running FreeBSD since very early on (pre-2000), but always as a "hobby", since being sysadmin wasn't my day job. So I've upgraded FreeBSD over many, many versions. And historically, upgrading the ports was always a giant pain in the neck. Now, it seems, the binary package management is finally working, and once I get all these legacy port builds out of the way, upgrades should be much simpler in the future. Again, thanks to all who responded. Bill Dudley On 07/03/2015 03:58 PM, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: > On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 09:59:10AM -0500, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: >> In the future, you might consider working with the people from whom you >> expect help rather than throwing a fit and disparaging their hard work. > Whoah there. > > Everybody gets frustrated sometimes. Me, I've got a new IPv6 setup that > I'm having a hard time with. But the correct response is for the people > around the frustrated person to understand the frustration and just let > it go -- without comment. > > Let's hope our frustrated user goes the binary package route and has an > easy time of it. >