From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 00:31:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA15384 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from waldorf.appli.se (waldorf.appli.se [194.198.196.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15370 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nettan.appli.se (root@nettan.appli.se [194.198.196.5]) by waldorf.appli.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA26502; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:31:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (niklas@localhost) by nettan.appli.se (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08990; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:31:26 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: nettan.appli.se: niklas owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:31:26 +0100 (MET) From: Niklas Hallqvist To: www@freebsd.org Subject: filtering? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I was setting up a webpage at www.openbsd.org with several links to your web-structure, http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html, explaining how to go on about using your fine ports collection in OpenBSD. Fairly quick I got to know that you filter (at least) web-traffic from openbsd.org. Clearly, this is something you have your freedom to do, but I question it highly. I thought we were cooperating, but this is a symbolic measure just stirring up ill will. There is no gain in keeping such a filter up (or reject route or whatever you use) and especially, no security gain. It would be the end for a serious security-focused OS like OpenBSD to host cracker attacks against any other organization. So such an argument falls due to internal incosistencies in my eyes. If you intend to keep the filtering, please tell us why you feel it necessary, and what can be done about it. Purely from an idealist's point of view (and I am an idealist in many ways) this isn't something a BSD derived system should tell the Internet community is a way to solve a conflict (if there is one, is there?). I don't see a reason why FreeBSD should be scared of OpenBSD, clearly Linux is a bigger threat for you ;-) With hopes of a change soon, Niklas Niklas Hallqvist Phone: +46-(0)31-40 75 00 Home: +46-(0)31-41 93 95 Applitron Datasystem Fax: +46-(0)31-83 39 50 Home: +46-(0)31-41 93 96 Molndalsvagen 95 Email: niklas@appli.se GSM: +46-(0)70-714 10 35 S-412 63 GOTEBORG WWW: Here Sweden IRC: niklas (#NetBSD)