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Date:      Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0200
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        Roman Divacky <rdivacky@freebsd.org>
Cc:        jamie@bishopston.net, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, narayan@neelum.com
Subject:   Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established...
Message-ID:  <20080620104106.18826n68s55lwlc0@webmail.leidinger.net>
In-Reply-To: <20080620080416.GB12112@freebsd.org>
References:  <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> <20080620080416.GB12112@freebsd.org>

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Quoting Roman Divacky <rdivacky@freebsd.org> (from Fri, 20 Jun 2008 =20
10:04:16 +0200):

> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
>> Quoting John Kozubik <john@kozubik.com> (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008
>> 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)):
>>
>> >First, a bounty has been posted here:
>> >
>> >http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html
>> >
>>
>> From the site:
>> ---snip---
>> I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for
>> running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9
>> on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is
>> already a linux-flashplugin9 port.
>> ---snip---
>>
>> Comments from other people with some more money not included here...
>>
>> And now the sad reality check: linux-flashplugin9 will _never_ work on
>> 6.x (lack of linux 2.6 emulation, and this is not a MFC candidate).
>>
>> Getting it to work on 7.x is possible. "All what you need" is
>> nspluginwrapper to get it running in the native
>> firefox/opera/whatever, and someone who is willing to debug the
>> linuxulator (on -current, as there is a more complete 2.6
>> compatibility there, and this can be MFCed to 7.x) and find the
>> bug/problem which is causing the crashes. Whoever is willing to tackle
>> this: head over to emulation@ (CCed) and ask what debugging
>> possibilities we have in the linuxulator.
>
> I tried to debug the flash9 and failed badly. It might be that I overlooke=
d
> something trivial but...
>
> the flash9 is a big binary-only monster and basically the only trace
> of what its doing you can get is a syscall-trace. Which is not that much

I think enabling the the linuxulator debug stuff and maybe adding some =20
more printfs at some places can reveal some more stuff... with some =20
in-deep reviewing of what happens.

> useful. I didnt find any missing syscalls or something like that and the
> fail is a complete mystery for me.... otoh I looked at this a LOONG time a=
go.

Which is in indication that there are some (subtle) differences =20
between the linuxulator and the real linux we have to track down.

> I might want to look at it again (after some other things settle)
>
>
> anyway... I dont think that flash9 crashes are related to 2.6 =20
> emulation in any
> way. iirc it runs (and crashes) on 2.4 as well. I remember it crashes in

Hmmm... now I'm not sure anymore, but I thought we had reports that it =20
runs better with 2.6...

Bye,
Alexander.

--=20
I wish I was a sex-starved manicurist found dead in the Bronx!!

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