From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 08:41:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272351065671; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64DB8FC1A; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A57359.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.115.89]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053992E200; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B75A133F24; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:08 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1213951268; bh=OD7/keunaS4EhdtnSBdZ375EaTdiM3Jb0 LW2v45U+cs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jA0aGf0eg5em97PsTk0ZOtLwjiFs4xPycLwcKdStM1Tk8/WGJvJql1d1aV11zIAwo /SpWvDn2owhT3v3zc7Vp7uChK/Saf2yHTrzRZidD90Z8JGT00tyUyUl7W3fNsG+oi4/ 6meN3lUEUu6R4abmoh1PGZhvlTK4wMBHwpNeCq2RHRxbpkmzgycooUvX4r7L/kTzXbq fXt03C9sWg7xoPqaHpyu4bLLaecqRrQ2t1O+FV1laaCPyGluPucIa+aQ/z/QYerXlzu m9gaCHfpbrx9dNz8fReVp63X39rkbJjQham8DSjdziyC10iA/f387iT94jm6vo6+5kx FdJpTtNkw== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m5K8f6a7065195; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20080620104106.18826n68s55lwlc0@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Roman Divacky References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> <20080620080416.GB12112@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080620080416.GB12112@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-13.504, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE 1.40, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:26:24 +0000 Cc: jamie@bishopston.net, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, narayan@neelum.com Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:41:17 -0000 Quoting Roman Divacky (from Fri, 20 Jun 2008 =20 10:04:16 +0200): > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Quoting John Kozubik (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 >> 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): >> >> >First, a bounty has been posted here: >> > >> >http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html >> > >> >> From the site: >> ---snip--- >> I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for >> running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9 >> on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is >> already a linux-flashplugin9 port. >> ---snip--- >> >> Comments from other people with some more money not included here... >> >> And now the sad reality check: linux-flashplugin9 will _never_ work on >> 6.x (lack of linux 2.6 emulation, and this is not a MFC candidate). >> >> Getting it to work on 7.x is possible. "All what you need" is >> nspluginwrapper to get it running in the native >> firefox/opera/whatever, and someone who is willing to debug the >> linuxulator (on -current, as there is a more complete 2.6 >> compatibility there, and this can be MFCed to 7.x) and find the >> bug/problem which is causing the crashes. Whoever is willing to tackle >> this: head over to emulation@ (CCed) and ask what debugging >> possibilities we have in the linuxulator. > > I tried to debug the flash9 and failed badly. It might be that I overlooke= d > something trivial but... > > the flash9 is a big binary-only monster and basically the only trace > of what its doing you can get is a syscall-trace. Which is not that much I think enabling the the linuxulator debug stuff and maybe adding some =20 more printfs at some places can reveal some more stuff... with some =20 in-deep reviewing of what happens. > useful. I didnt find any missing syscalls or something like that and the > fail is a complete mystery for me.... otoh I looked at this a LOONG time a= go. Which is in indication that there are some (subtle) differences =20 between the linuxulator and the real linux we have to track down. > I might want to look at it again (after some other things settle) > > > anyway... I dont think that flash9 crashes are related to 2.6 =20 > emulation in any > way. iirc it runs (and crashes) on 2.4 as well. I remember it crashes in Hmmm... now I'm not sure anymore, but I thought we had reports that it =20 runs better with 2.6... Bye, Alexander. --=20 I wish I was a sex-starved manicurist found dead in the Bronx!! http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137