From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 27 11:52:17 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD6715BC842 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic306-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic306-19.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4448829D6 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: UZZl2vUVM1kK9o07u1JgNzLvC01gJx1SzCI4Uomwnc73CuZnIuM1MKDX6H6Aqtt fPnxtFBdhrEAa2c_FyzZYi5wqDhxLXxNvwVpBbEgLqaDnuM9LF7P0CibKJMTCvT1CTere_Ez9cLw xVXuU_oPGbdT953GOroYQW6CXDTjSYo2Fs8GTeqRuzmpLk7JVu6YYnMC3WU3qQBcL4H1v7m36uu1 JvFGwf4HtoB_jmU69DOsguKjQnlFvSL7XofH6NPt_9urHjoekwrOzHXn03w2sQzEtaAKWTajEnPL yqiqTg6suU50bYybmXXhfmjx4fGXpNogyFu4A81YPlbeduWoZde2LlcfLcm_23J_.9fPb.qYSz6L Hix5GeeUFcHVCpGKZcA_s2OI8XghXRTXW0VXMpqfNKPlZ6SUijXbmxcRF57dzJM_Mm9tmi7UHmh6 f3r9aXB20Dd_eQZGM81qQ4y.QVK.yTCO6P1Ixl9OIvyFkNNYVFay6iy6jkCYWg5KqyiwBCw5dmL. 99Oqq5HpYIux0pyMhRemGN.cOy5W.F4vJmGbengsyYDEct7fJ_RUXnzIZddj9qEtGmE6KyvWXFqU APrhC_QnPRYFiFB5fCqoe.uiKKyuXNeeFvsBiA5CHPdglKnNDm77nkHPdHcoyw9MuH_qXut78Lx0 62PyAmLyDiQbold3AiJUIatggPTWcSnP_1HJYUh7nd2JNLkGPoa5fV1PyOUub70YOn_ky2.zer6r i7tQjpZzb36T4z8uPGlHV1TpiBYDtK3KREUCTqSXeUOgI.hG.DYOKpIBOrcfS8UVEN5VKY7yXYOi w_Y9EEgTHXb5En3grxiEG5GUfXGn48pzfM7axdzu8Sbd8gtJRP.CCPLVoWOBoi.B6RyeNqy31CQA XS0uJkKJ1xMQ_cle5.wYMYfybVYpbra73OtX0Cz8yx3MmxAYLYJrDY8YFYrXll.jIgZd1rKbp5rE nvKxJv6bvZSON4GgUwvAkzG6bRxAR21m_it4NyAVfvlkhHuovT_j.Wc.6UEuP2fq7IJ4i6PVEaYs b6qyM8.2wULBsL3wI_zUM892_NU1pFBRhOg8.Whi5WQ3rWieWw0.o4Rkw_i5v29hOsgkOjlpeAhL 5wwiYGDwxZ0nfUsFBYLIF92l8fSjRcCD4C_GDfMTG6wKMlFgiUYY5b9p5DGcCXpSlWT4dsi3hv5p iODn.Of.1h1kmc2_sqtXJwqJN0WOa.QbSmaUsWsuyPcxzDGy8.IPgP5K8Gan0q1axPkleK.b93TI - Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:52:07 +0000 Received: from x2f44acb.dyn.telefonica.de (EHLO archlinux) ([2.244.74.203]) by smtp416.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 11cb134ae5a9c79d7c227c612a0f224a for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 13:52:04 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I've got a major question... Message-ID: <20190627135204.1e66e598@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20190627113712.8a8ffbb238f478b08514cf72@sohara.org> References: <20190626063443.51ad3f1b.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627081518.9dc6f3c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627091012.44fc65a7@archlinux> <20190627103701.7ea401b8@archlinux> <20190627110340.d0d87cfe.freebsd@edvax.de> <20190627113712.8a8ffbb238f478b08514cf72@sohara.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B4448829D6 X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.36 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[203.74.244.2.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.96)[0.963,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.71)[0.707,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(2.40)[ip: (7.79), ipnet: 77.238.176.0/22(2.40), asn: 34010(1.88), country: GB(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.80)[0.798,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[205.176.238.77.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:52:17 -0000 On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 11:37:12 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >1: Select platform by default >2: Accept software on offer >3: Adjust requirements and procedures to suit software >4: Bitch when you find yourself locked in In an off-list reply I described it from Jane Bloggs' point of view. For Jane Bloggs it's easier to to go with the flow. From her point of view almost everything works OOTB, it at least works in an expected way. Even to have a whining can be shared with all the other who go with the flow, too. Terrible experiences of live in a peaceable country way more often cause personality disorders, than the same terrible experiences cause in war zones, where a huge group of people have got the same experiences. It might be less hard for Jane Bloggs to lose important data, while this happens to all her friends, too, than to have a notebook with a new WiFi chip, that isn't supported by her operating system, but supported by the operating system used by all her friends. "Vulcans are known as logical beings who have removed emotions from their lives." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_(Star_Trek)#Emotion An earthling has got needs, that could cause completely irrational behaviours. Live long and prosper