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Date:      Tue, 03 Aug 2010 15:47:40 -0500
From:      "Scott T. Hildreth" <shildret@scotth.emsphone.com>
To:        Jung-uk Kim <jkim@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IcedTea
Message-ID:  <1280868460.25758.20.camel@scotth.emsphone.com>
In-Reply-To: <201008031641.01111.jkim@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <1280862606.25758.6.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <201008031641.01111.jkim@FreeBSD.org>

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On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 16:40 -0400, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> On Tuesday 03 August 2010 03:10 pm, Scott T. Hildreth wrote:
> > Has anyone tried the latest IcedTea dist (1.8 I think), which I
> > believe has the Java plugin?
>=20
> I haven't tried the lastest IcedTea but I have experimented with some=20
> old versions.  FYI, you cannot use IcedTea as is because it is just a=20
> bunch of patches and build glues for Linux distros.
>=20
> > Is this the way FreeBSD will provide the Java plugin or is there
> > still hope that Oracle/Sun will opensource the plugin code?
>=20
> Theoretically, you can build the IcedTea plugin with FreeBSD OpenJDK=20
> ports.  Last time I tried, all I needed to build the plugin was=20
> liveconnect, netx, and plugin directories and some patches in=20
> patches/extensions from the IcedTea tarball.  Of course, you need to=20
> write some build glues, which is, well, not so trivial.  Any way, I=20
> was able to build it but it was incomplete because we didn't have the=20
> latest libxul in ports tree to make it work at the time.  I believe=20
> Gecko porting team is working on it and I may try it again if I find=20
> some copious free time. ;-)
>=20
> > I know this has been brought up before, with firefox 4 in the works
> > I'm sure it will require a newer java as well.
>=20
> FYI, Firefox has nothing to do with Java version itself.  Mozilla team=
=20
> just removed the old Java plugin API (OJI) from newer Gecko engines=20
> and that's all.  I think "Look, Sun has released plugin binaries with=20
> the new API for Linux!  Let's kill the old API." was really really a=20
> bad decision because 1) Sun promised but never released the sources=20
> after all, 2) it pretty much killed all third-party OJI plugins=20
> including my Diablo plugin for FreeBSD/amd64.  Of course, you can=20
> stay with old Firefox and friends but... =20

I have no problem using 3.5, just wondering how much longer they will=20
support it (I'm sure for a while).
> Sigh... =20
  Yes, that won't be good for the Desktop BSD's dists.

Thanks for the info.

>=20
> Jung-uk Kim
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