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Date:      Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:12:44 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Dan Nelson <dnelson@emsphone.com>
Cc:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Adrian Chadd <adrian@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SysctlFS
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10007141511370.59294-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20000714170824.A21158@dan.emsphone.com>

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On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Dan Nelson wrote:

> In the last episode (Jul 14), Julian Elischer said:
> > On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > In message <20000714124805.F17372@ywing.creative.net.au> Adrian Chadd writes:
> > >: As I said in my previous email, persistence isn't the primary
> > >: problem in my eyes. There are many ways people can handle it. What
> > >: I see as being an interesting problem is handling devfs across
> > >: multiple process/group namespaces (jail/chroot) without cluttering
> > >: up your mount table.
> > > 
> > > Yes.  Another issue is the new hot plug devices.  It is highly
> > > desirable to allow arbitrary commands to run when they come and go.
> > 
> > I have some solutions for both problems..
> > At least for the devfs in jail problems..
> > 
> > in particular a variant on a symbolic link which is interpretted as a
> > symlink into /dev this would allow many /devs to exist without many
> > mounted filesystems in each jail
> 
> Would it be possible to have a symbolic link type that breaks out of a
> jail?  So you would have a "/myjail/dev ->> /dev" link in the jail that
> ends up referring to the real /dev.  This would also fix the /proc
> problem.  You wouldn't want to link /myjail/usr/lib to /usr/lib,
> though, because the jailed root would be able to modify the binaries,
> but /dev and /proc seem safe.
> 
basically that was the idea.. but you could only set it if you were root
and not in a jail.


> -- 
> 	Dan Nelson
> 	dnelson@emsphone.com
> 



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