From owner-freebsd-small Tue Apr 11 23:19: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259BF37B6F7 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:19:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08009; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:18:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <200004120618.XAA08009@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Netpliance Iopener In-Reply-To: <00041123294403.00722@loki.dyn.ez-ip.net> from dreamwvr at "Apr 11, 0 11:22:27 pm" To: dreamwvr@dreamwvr.com Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:18:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: dreamwvr@dreamwvr.com, imp@village.org, dirkx@webweaving.org, chip@eboai.org, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, dreamwvr wrote: > > Seems to me the easiest thing would be for Netpliance to offer to > > sell the "hackable" hardware, without the tutorial software and the > > code that connects to their home base, but that instead drops into > > the QNX shell at boot. > .. would agree who using open source wants that crap anyhow? > any hands.. nope:-)) My hand is up... I did some QNX development a few years back for an embedded application. I was fairly impressed then, and they seem to have gotten better (from a visit to their web site, as well as poking my IPAD). Really, unless the licence contributes a substantial amount to the delivered cost, having a shell that knows how to do things like "ls" and "dd" would be very useful to the hacker wanting to bootstrap his way to something more to his taste. This gizmo would be worth while to a lot more people if they didn't have to open it up and hack the hardware. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message