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Date:      Thu, 1 May 2008 20:25:25 -0700
From:      Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>
To:        Shaun Sabo <shaun.bsd@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 7.0 SATA Controller
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On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 11:03:15PM -0400, Shaun Sabo wrote:
> but then why does it not complain in freebsd 6.2, linux, or windows but it
> does in 7.0?

FreeBSD 6.2 is very different than 7.0.  :-)  And you later state that
Linux had the same problem as FreeBSD.  And chances are, Dell has tested
their system thoroughly on Windows, not Linux or FreeBSD, so device
support under Windows is going to be quite solid.

> and why i mean by the freebsd sysinstaller is the screen you
> get when you boot a freebsd disk or when you type sysinstall at a command
> line in a bsd system.

I don't see what this has to do with your machine stalling 2/3rds of the
way through its boot-up process.  The only thing I can think of is that
some kind of ATA request is causing the nF4 to lock up, and the BIOS
isn't properly resetting it upon a soft reboot.

> i had the problem where it would only boot 2/3 of the
> way into the bios once before when i used debian, it was because debian was
> still on the 2.4 linux kernel and didnt support my mobo yet so it tried to
> detect it and you had to completely power off the system to get it to boot
> again, which seems like what is happening here.

Okay, so this is useful knowledge.  It means that Linux has also
exhibited the same behaviour as FreeBSD, at least in the past, which
means there may be some incompatibility with the devices on the
motherboard.  It would be useful to know what the Linux folks did to
work around the problem.

Since I know the nForce 4 works on FreeBSD, the only thing I can think
of which might be causing chaos is ACPI, and there are many board
manufacturers who release incorrect ACPI tables within in their BIOS.

If you try booting either 7.0-RELEASE or 7.0-STABLE with ACPI disabled
(it's one of the bootup menu items), does it help?

> im going to try re-flashing
> the bios just to make sure that nothing is wrong with them. And also i tried
> both the 7.0-RELEASE and 7-STABLE livefs disks and both of them cannot mount
> the livefs image.

You're burning the livefs ISO image to a CD and booting it, correct?
What is the exact error you get from FreeBSD when trying to boot the
livefs CD?

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| Jeremy Chadwick                                jdc at parodius.com |
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