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Date:      Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:51:38 +0100
From:      Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
To:        Robert Noland <rnoland@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: xorg upgrade and /etc/ttys regression
Message-ID:  <497F65CA.9060308@bsdforen.de>
In-Reply-To: <1233084594.1981.24.camel@wombat.2hip.net>
References:  <20090127190217.de1802b5.lehmann@ans-netz.de>	 <497F5F68.3090308@bsdforen.de> <1233084594.1981.24.camel@wombat.2hip.net>

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Robert Noland wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 20:24 +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>> Oliver Lehmann wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've used to start my login manager with /etc/ttys for years now (After I
>>> considered myself became to lazy to type startx).
>>>
>>> After yesterdays xorg upgrade I've noticed, that the login manager which
>>> comes up right after going to multiuser has no working mouse or keyboard
>>> support. This is probably because the login manager gets started by
>>> /sbin/init which uses getttyent which parses /etc/ttys. This all happens
>>> before hald is being started which is the problem here.
>> /etc/ttys is the very last thing in the boot process.
>>
>>> So the solution seems to be to drop/remove login manager startups
>>> from /etc/ttys and move over to rc.d startup.
>> It's much more likely that hald isn't working properly. Even if hald
>> started late, as soon as it started, your mouse and keyboard would
>> start working as soon as hald detects them (that's the whole point
>> of using hald, runtime detection).
> 
> I think the root of the issue here is that X isn't able to establish a
> connection to hald at startup and does not retry. ...

This implies to me that hald forks before it is connectable.
This sounds rather annoying.



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