From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 18 10:13:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD62EF23AFA for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic311-30.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic311-30.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24D856F6B3 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: 9Pq93icVM1kt_if39aLaRsYsTg3D9DfiCxh40SxmYk1mt1jXikUA5fBWXC553ko xsXF.f8Di8eCwD_pcH85S.RAQH6byncVOa40rR1KBUnFItAUuyO0RgGZp0URYl02lnJ8ztEriZ0J PmX5r8_ilfoGE53ssXFt7WXVXQVgox7VaXAvhKd7ZO0.bDfr96e9s0mVhCdaHvTqNNKAISoQwBlX ItAxgu6zvH7dPsG.sGUXI5hDQjV14Un1BfmakFC7y5Ev8KMtYefWoKClzRnP88aPTcsnXfGYq2Ej i45lKmbQbbltNcq84uDiOwqWmHYjDv6xMvZB7_qdYaBF9GgP2fj3RvsqPPxd5wk9fm3Fhx72ShzR 0LQhw8suz2OIPXOR5csnpvyVmyEftQcnLSBDoYMZ07Nd_hHVj.MoyJu7BlouzQChkv7Nf9Ie7yZj fg1_dETfwCmTSrzgvA7FVio45M5x.VbrdhwCzDmnS1q.ByEbr8Qlpn7jihQw2iGQeaLg_uafIezX IZfL9RZHEJBq8psfJEhn.UZe.D7TSC7nHWPaYMtnhBM_cTD8w1w-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:13:18 +0000 Received: from smtp174.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (EHLO archlinux.localdomain) ([46.228.39.41]) by smtp409.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID cb50f55bdb8185df5248b19022026ff7 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1518948792.888.24.camel@rocketmail.com> Subject: Re: File fransfer from iPad to FreeBSD From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 11:13:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1518937284.888.12.camel@alice-dsl.net> References: <20180216104703.555e9987.freebsd@edvax.de> <44df8585-9874-2614-590a-bea78f54caa4@kicp.uchicago.edu> <54570.108.68.161.195.1518893084.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20180218004656.6e2197d0@archlinux.localdomain> <30404453-D006-4F54-B9A9-2399CC3366FD@mac.com> <20180218074107.5f990050@archlinux.localdomain> <1518936616.888.4.camel@alice-dsl.net> <1518937284.888.12.camel@alice-dsl.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.26.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 10:13:27 -0000 Send from the wrong account and it didn't came through the list. I guess there is a difference between restoring the complete iPad apps and user data and just the wish to restore user data for one app, leaving the user data of all other apps untouched. This isn't an issue when using *BSD or Linux, but seemingly impossible when using an iPad. IOW the backup strategy of Apple is idiotic. Btw. in the context of the replies, the way Polytropon used the term "locked" is correct. The log in issue is something else. Btw. sharing photos works without iTunes, when running Windows. If it should work using *BSD or Linux software, than at least it becomes complicated for all those, who manually mount from command line, instead of using GVFS and similar crap. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File fransfer from iPad to FreeBSD Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 07:50:16 +0100 Mailer: Evolution 3.26.5 > > They instead contain the incremental diff between the current state of > > your app with your app data and the original. This might be true, but I'm not sure if it is true. If so, the user would get the old app release, instead of a new release. I suspect that it's not a diff, but just the purchase meta-data and that the app is downloaded again, but I might be mistaken here, while I'm definitively not mistaken with the user data. Again, you synced without accidentally deleting the app first. Such a sync is not a backup. A real backup would allow to restore data, even if the app was accidentally deleted and then reinstalled. -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: File fransfer from iPad to FreeBSD Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:01:24 +0100 Mailer: Evolution 3.26.5 On Sun, 2018-02-18 at 07:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > They instead contain the incremental diff between the current state of > > > your app with your app data and the original. > > This might be true, but I'm not sure if it is true. If so, the user > would get the old app release, instead of a new release. I suspect that > it's not a diff, but just the purchase meta-data and that the app is > downloaded again, but I might be mistaken here It might be different for iTunes and iCloud. I'm talking about the current version of iTunes, that even doesn't allow to access the store, this nowadays could only be done using the iPad. In the past it also was possible to purchase an app via iTunes. If the app was purchased via iTunes, the binary perhaps was part of a "backup". > Again, you synced without accidentally > deleting the app first. Such a sync is not a backup. A real backup would > allow to restore data, even if the app was accidentally deleted and then > reinstalled. I might be mistaken here, in so far, that I don't want to restore the complete iPad, after accidentally deleting an app. I only want to get back the user data for this app, after reinstalling it and not to override user data of other apps, too.ling it and not to override user data of other apps, too.