From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Apr 3 21:55:15 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3012737F2 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:55:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x12d.google.com (mail-lf1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48vDHg2JLcz4Kf1 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 21:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x12d.google.com with SMTP id f8so5675553lfe.12 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:54:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xf9PdWA3P10AHj5dBp7r8SStCLTcdx/+L5IAxMzKuFs=; b=EZQJRZVmxSHV/UX2nMhOA3XlImlizk6xKYsHNhHEkUcnM0YwVLz8d99dG7wbbhvRoH M4bFw6Tb0NLZJ8cTgsEGQEgqHni5GaGq6L+qGMynlZSP6+Q9XvYQB2/fM9v7INEQphbF ZN0uWmH2DrX/klDLuvbbhvJku1Em34L1MHFN1KQL/faMQZJLnZ7XZJqJ3MlDR+zqHwiG 0eHAqsC/2msE8W9m9gmerFwZ3d7JclgmtlJzUiS9XvHOW9JkDHzWs3gNwU57PEjGHKrD PRNqPEuVZMdiqWHw3MdrnWugm0RqHFVdYRgsSUDC1TJaqXRQAAvqHYSStmDK8B9rRwtn 2guQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=xf9PdWA3P10AHj5dBp7r8SStCLTcdx/+L5IAxMzKuFs=; b=PL43wW7K6C5ZpSCPGCjmIKf5URyE2sZS1s0InGw8TH6x5zz1Qu5uYAyr2QVWl2Rym0 x3GLkmnz6aeRRDBRFsy8hF0cgVt4FMkujCDXKD5eLw9MqJDxjqe8RB9+xFyKisecdnSH frPo7VoqGUUUCcQ0Q/+jHNzVwXqQthBFXDx/6rLeB3FWgTdyQCEx7rq+P59pZQ8R6rE5 H0YWUBz3dwMe8OXMaICPHjP0k0MnNTPlCA/HlxlxDaAwwtnl5x06DOkT5aiHy5ccPJ56 JmyN9kPJQP2JYyBFymlB9tJef7KtKXlaNf8jF5T3ZExWO4h14sK+aXVcVzxy+m3nXLts AxOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaR6l7bq+Z1kjMiZvNVyUAoS/zIFgSHnjHoYFX18ue/kXjtYDUy dU2wNf/OMpO/qS9uvRBLbxcWZs1kB2SYupilSYYXnOrdSQA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ8T0FcBAwEAOf4Bh3rJRlcpJhz9Rd1O5eCyEuiqXr3zp4GecBH4hC9qLuwhSQHgmhipo1Xba6XUX2luOQkrmU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:686:: with SMTP id t6mr6882725lfe.163.1585950885151; Fri, 03 Apr 2020 14:54:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200403213742.pdyuuoqudro3qvx4@sea-ll-10936> In-Reply-To: <20200403213742.pdyuuoqudro3qvx4@sea-ll-10936> From: Alejandro Imass Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 17:54:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Bastille vs. iocage vs.CBSD opinions? To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48vDHg2JLcz4Kf1 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=EZQJRZVm; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::12d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aimass@yabarana.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.81 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.31)[ip: (-8.69), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.36), asn: 15169(-0.44), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[d.2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 21:55:16 -0000 Thanks for your responses so far, very instructive. As Ihor, I am also inclined towards Bastille for many of the same reasons. NVL iocage seems very cool as well as does CBSD. But, since I am a biased pro-Perl person (which is almost the same as saying anti-python) I am trying to be objective and avoid confirmation bias. I've been happily using EzJail for about 14 years now, and never had a serious issue. But these other tools seem more container oriented and I want to be able to do many of the things people are doing with Docker and ECS but on FBSD in bare metal (I am NOT a fan of virtualization and AWS).