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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm13386357anl.11.2012.08.05.11.15.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Wqqt72KGCz2CG4F for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:15:42 -0400 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20120805141542.2a5125ec@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20510.40571.417415.852536@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20120805045800.29444.qmail@joyce.lan> <20510.27576.562781.36878@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20120805093320.7b7f0fc4@scorpio> <20510.40571.417415.852536@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.3) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmLj+AWpGOM4Nc5WiZDSYdRKniqp7dbxVtwGOsZ8gYaI02JKJpZB4GHWD0B8q7D+znIRdnX Subject: Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:15:47 -0000 On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:25:31 -0400 Robert Huff articulated: > Jerry writes: > > > I agree up to the point about financial incentive. For myself, I > > like making money. I don't apologize for that. Most engineers, > > software / hardware designers also enjoy receiving a monetary > > reward for their hard work. Simple giving away our hard work, > > sweat and time to some socialist just because they feel they have > > the right to the hard work of others is repulsive. > > Would you call Jeff Bezos (CEO of Amazon) a socialist? > Some years ago, he was giving an interview and was asked > "Jeff, Amazon has applied for a patent for the One-Click system. If > Amazon had known before it started there was no chance of receiving a > patent - would it have created One-Click anyway?" > [While I'm paraphasing, the essential content is preserved.] > There was a long pause, during which you could tell Bezos > understood _precisely_ what the real question was ... > ... and (to his credit) answered "Yes." > > The programmers got paid. > Amazon gets paid in the form of more expedient processing and > (presumably) more sales due to ease of check-out. > Why, as a society, should we deny other innovators the ability > to use that technology to develop - hopefully - even better stuff? You are all over the board here. Nothing ever stops anyone from doing something for nothing. Hell, I have written some small software applications that I never expected to make a dime off. With that said, should I come up with some brilliant idea or killer software applications, I fully intend to protect my rights and make as much off of it as possible. I never stated than anyone should be denied the right to create or write basically whatever they so desire; however, if they are going to piggyback their work on another author or developer's works, then that individual deserves to receive compensation. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________