Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:41:24 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>, Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>, Dann Lunsford <dann@greycat.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2 : Windows))) Message-ID: <56235.963178884@localhost> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:40:03 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20000709003340.049d0930@localhost>
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> No; it appears to be your crusade to quash some valuable insights. Nope, that can't be it. I don't see any valuable insights in this discussion. > My predictions have been accurate in the past and are being fulfilled > here as well. And my efforts to date in the BSD world have been > quite effective. Therefore, I daresay I have quite a bit of currency. > Why are you attempting to undermine it? You may daresay this, but I do not. I haven't seen any such accuracy demonstrated by your predictions and there's a certain hand gesture I cannot draw here which adequately sums up your efforts to date in the BSD world. So you put on a few panels and wrote an article or two - big, fat, hairy deal! I've done the same countless times and no longer even make any special note of it unless the article in question appears in the Wall Street Journal or Time Magazine or something. As to panels, anybody can put together a panel and even get some pretty good people on it. A panel is what you do when you and a bunch of other people don't feel like really working hard on a talk. ;-) Am I saying such work is valueless? Of course not, or I would not do it myself. I'm simply saying that you radically over-estimate the value of your currency if you think you can spend your $10 so profligately now on $100 arguments. > Er, Jordan, *now* who's advocating being Quixotic? Such an effort > requires a team, as I can't exactly afford to quit putting food on the > table in order to do it alone. By arguing against the concept you are > discouraging people from joining that effort and are thus sabotaging it I can only hope so - it's a damn stupid idea and I'll be happy to say that to anyone who asks. I'm somehow evil if I have the temerity to call a spade a spade? Get off your high horse, Brett, and stop assuming that every idea you have is somehow enobled to the point of automatic correctness just because it passed through your exalted brain on the way to your fingertips. I can only repeat the same advice again, and it's been good general advice to the population at large for as long as I can remember: If you really want to prove a point that badly, go do exactly as I said and write it yourself. I'm sure a bright boy like you can figure out some way to put food on the table and do something of a substantive technical nature at the same time since so many others in so many open source projects have done exactly that, time and again. You're just ducking and weaving all over the place so much when it comes to "put up or shut up" here that it's a wonder you're not motion-sick by now. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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