From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 00:01:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1C6C77; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:01:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FC552F77; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jre-mbp.elischer.org (ppp121-45-235-45.lns20.per1.internode.on.net [121.45.235.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r9801dUP034420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <52534B5E.7010401@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:01:34 +0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base References: <20131007150658.GA79233@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20131007150658.GA79233@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:01:44 -0000 On 10/7/13 11:06 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 10:43:21PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> RCS was removed from the base system in r256095. If you still want to >> use RCS please install either devel/rcs or devel/rcs57. If not, be >> sure to check out the alternatives (pun stolen and intended). >> > Perhaps, a note in src/UPDATING is appropriate? > ok so what is this, the secret cabal to make FreeBSD useless? I'm ccing core as I believe this was not discussed enough in public (in fact not discussed AT ALL in any forum I am watching) and I officially request a backout of the removal of what I consider to be core functionality. My usual way of doing things is on install to ci EVERYTHING in /etc to get a snapsot right the way back to install. now I have to change things in /etc (and other places) BEFORE I can check them in. (i.e. get networking up and ports installed) not a big thing but I believe that a lot of poeple use ci/co on /etc becasue it is "just there"