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Date:      Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:11:48 -0700
From:      Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: mmap and resource limits
Message-ID:  <8C8FEFC1-35CD-4104-B518-DA32A3EA242C@xcllnt.net>
In-Reply-To: <201210121338.28956.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <83AE27A6-C844-4720-99E7-A12106F77227@xcllnt.net> <FD8885CC-6E66-435A-A858-82F41B0F239D@xcllnt.net> <201210121338.28956.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Oct 12, 2012, at 10:38 AM, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On Friday, October 12, 2012 12:04:19 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>>=20
>> On Oct 8, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>> All,
>>>=20
>>> What's the progress of mmap(2) doing resource accounting and
>>> it respecting resource limits?
>>=20
>> *silence*
>>=20
>> Ok, so no new progress. We're still not doing it and we don't
>> have an idea of how we want to do it if or when we're going to
>> want to do it. Consequently: we still need brk()/sbrk().
>>=20
>> Correct assessment?
>=20
> Well.  You can use RLIMIT_AS, but that includes anything you map, not =
just=20
> malloc().  The problem is that even if you use sbrk() and rely on =
RLIMIT_DATA,=20
> any misbehaving app can just use mmap(MAP_ANON) or shm_open() to get =
around=20
> that.

Wouldn't it be a good approach then to enforce RLIMIT_AS as the
external (to the process) limit and define RLIMIT_DATA et al
as internal (to the process) resources as a way to have the
process put limits on particular types of memory and do so on
a voluntary basis?

I mean, RLIMIT_STACK is impossible to enforce in multi-threaded
processes. RLIMIT_CODE is already convoluted by having R/O data
in the same segment. RLIMIT_DATA... well...

So, have processes give meaning to them in whatever way makes
sense to the process and have the kernel limit it "FWIW"?

Any thoughts on the best way for a process can tell the kernel
how to treat a memory region (i.e. data, stack or code)?

--=20
Marcel Moolenaar
marcel@xcllnt.net





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