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Date:      Sun, 12 Apr 1998 04:22:50 -0500 (EST)
From:      "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net>
To:        nadav@cs.technion.ac.il (Nadav Eiron)
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, mark@vmunix.com, kris@airnet.net, dshanes@personalogic.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet"
Message-ID:  <199804120922.EAA02708@dyson.iquest.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95-heb-2.07.980412113059.25087A-100000@csd> from Nadav Eiron at "Apr 12, 98 11:41:38 am"

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> 
> On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > These are great points - you want to write up a paper on "getting
> > FreeBSD into academic environments" and I'll print it in the
> > newsletter?  Seriously, the points you've made are too useful to see
> > just vanish into the mailing list archives..
> > 
> > 						Jordan
> > 
> 
> Our CS department here at the Technion, for several reasons, is going to
> distribute CDs to students starting the next academic year. We currently
> have roughly 1200 undergrads in the department, and the plan calls for
> this figure to double in the next two years. The CD is intended for the
> students to use at home instead of swamping the department's overloaded
> machines.  However, Linux is very strong here, and I could not persuade
> the faculty to use FreeBSD for the purpose. Their main points were the
> better availability of user-level docs, and the better support students
> will get from other students that already know Linux. However, all is not
> lost (I don't think they made any practical steps towards creating the
> CD). In the process, I also converted two labs to FreeBSD (after Sun
> suddenly wanted another $10000 for Solaris source licenses, it wasn't very
> hard). Yet, even these labs are under constant pressure to use NT... 
> 
> Any docs on why FreeBSD would be good for Academia will make a difference
> in such situations. What is missing, IMHO, is a list of institutions using
> FreeBSD, both for teaching and research as well as a list of major
> research operations that are carried out using [Free|Open|Net]BSD.  Having
> links on www.freebsd.org to web pages for courses being taught on FreeBSD
> would be just great. It seems that for the purpose of handing out CDs to
> students, nobody is interested at how stable the OS is for running servers
> :-(
> 
*BSD: (Net, Free)BSD are the OSes being used by NCI (the Oracle subsidiary)
for their commercial/business NC platform.  The OSes are working very well.
Frankly, there was no other reasonable choice, due to quality, licensing and
cost.

John

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