From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Feb 14 15:19:56 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E167023853C for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja) Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (relay2-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48JxrW1k4Hz3FQ8 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja) X-Originating-IP: 192.58.125.225 Received: from [10.195.227.9] (unknown [192.58.125.225]) (Authenticated sender: quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A0DB40004 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> From: Steven Malone Autocrypt: addr=quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja; keydata= mDMEXZ+FrRYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAPOy66/FdrUe7LSmCSr4sCCqOKq66FmrZ71M8FVcxwHq0 KlN0ZXZlbiBNYWxvbmUgPHF1YW50YWZhY0B1YmlxdWl0b3VzLm5pbmphPoiWBBMWCAA+FiEE sbE6S5tWz0H8MMQ2TrPHE+T1cYsFAl2fha0CGwMFCQlmAYAFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwEC HgECF4AACgkQTrPHE+T1cYueJgEA32EZLjUpfHU13/cS9hnYt5KNgV/TRT+sO/P5DWxprsEA /0YyKo6JKitwGzbYy78NiIWRfOwO59bl5h9CSOdnQDIMuDgEXZ+FrRIKKwYBBAGXVQEFAQEH QMdIm7w03QqBSfz3jioXDoC+XgjoXAXEtXeDb5MIOFtfAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEEsbE6S5tW z0H8MMQ2TrPHE+T1cYsFAl2fha0CGwwFCQlmAYAACgkQTrPHE+T1cYtAygEAhBGLDTy+NeQg oD/BmQ2JyUbcIRXhScaFB2FqFYvE4IUBAOAPoP3HCcqG5l3z49/1qloDSZcrJ+Ac7L1jeXdz CDUB Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 09:19:50 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48JxrW1k4Hz3FQ8 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja designates 217.70.183.194 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=quantafac@ubiquitous.ninja X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.55 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[194.183.70.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.70.183.192/28]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ubiquitous.ninja]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-1.15)[ip: (-2.88), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-1.58), asn: 29169(-1.29), country: FR(0.00)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[194.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2020 15:19:56 -0000 Victor, While this may not be a technical response, I have had immensely better experiences managing a FreeBSD server than a Linux one. The primary difference in my experience has been around system upgrades. When updating Linux I have had all sorts of applications start failing after the a simple package update. I do not have this problem when updating FreeBSD, it has been much more reliable for me. I have also seen similar results from system upgrades, Linux upgrades have broken my system countless times. I have never had a FreeBSD system completely tank after an upgrade. Not saying it would never happen, but it has been so much more stable I avoid Linux where-ever possible. I am sure there are technical reasons for this, probably having to do with the way FreeBSD manages itself as a complete OS instead of a collection of bits around a kernel. I think Michael W. Lucas puts it best "FreeBSD lets me sleep at night." On 2/14/20 6:16 AM, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > Not to start a flame war. A purely technical question: what > technological advantages does the modern FreeBSD have over modern Linux? > > Several yeas ago I would say ZFS was a killer feature, but now Linux has > ZFS too, and AFAIK FreeBSD is going to migrate to Linux's ZFS > implementation. > > What other features do we have to (persuade the management to) prefer > FreeBSD for new installations? >