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Date:      Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:26:08 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Bill Tillman <btillman99@yahoo.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore
Message-ID:  <1311017168.44397.YahooMailRC@web36508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com>
References:  <20110717071059.25971662@scorpio> <CAGwOe2YpUXgFx1f_1UWHNt4S=p=X1Soa348KWR9BTrjxF0bAwA@mail.gmail.com> <4E22DFE9.7050007@pathscale.com> <201107172016.30727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <4E23989F.7010701@gmail.com> <4e242fab.s4vpgxxZEUq0LFDq%perryh@pluto.rain.com>

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=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "perryh@pluto.rain.com" <perryh=
@pluto.rain.com>=0ATo: jrisom@gmail.com; cbergstrom@pathscale.com=0ACc: fre=
ebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:05:47 AM=0ASubject:=
 Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore=0A=0AJoshua Isom <jriso=
m@gmail.com> wrote:=0A> On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote:=0A> > On Su=
nday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote:=0A> >> I hope gnome does [g=
o Linux-only]..=A0 Maybe then more=0A> >> people would forget about it and =
focus on making KDE better ;)=0A...=0A> What about enlightenment?=0A=0AFor =
us old-timers :)=0A=0AWhat's the advantage of any of these "desktop environ=
ments" (Gnome,=0AKDE, enlightenment, Xfce) over ordinary X11 with (say) FVW=
M2 or TWM?=0ACertainly there are some useful apps that, for better or worse=
, are=0Abuilt with gtk or the KDE toolkit, but what does the full-blown=0Ae=
nvironment really contribute (other than bloat)?=0A________________________=
_______________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp=
://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, s=
end any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0AI'm wit=
h you on this one. My FreeBSD servers are SERVERS and I don't need a gui =
=0Ato be efficient and reliable with them. And when I do occassionally go w=
ith a =0AFreeBSD for my desktop I don't need all the bloat of GNOME or KDE.=
 I have used =0ATWM from the beginning and it does just fine by me.=0A=0ANo=
w as for BSD becoming irrelevant....I think that's all sour grapes. Linux g=
ets =0Aall the hype but I don't see te BSD's going by the wayside because o=
f it. I do =0Awish there was a more richer library of drivers available, li=
ke with Linux. That =0AI would not complain about.



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