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Date:      Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:43:16 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@highperformance.net>
To:        Nathan Mace <nmace85@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: a CDROM based firewall
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0201150821320.9183-100000@server.highperformance.net>
In-Reply-To: <200201150509.AAA07250@uce55.uchaswv.edu>

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Nathan Mace wrote:

> what do you guys think of a "free" style licenced BSD based firewall on a 
> bootable CDROM?  i know that suse linux provides this as a linux based 
> product but it is commerical, and i'm not sure how popular it is or how well 
> it works.
> 
> i was thinking that i could make an ISO image that when burned to a CDROM, 
> which when booted it would copy itself to memory, and then run from there.  

> you could setup a ram drive to be the /tmp directory, and optionally you 
> could have a hard drive to hold the log files. 

Or use syslog to log to a remote host.  Disable VM alltogether and you
need no hard drive at all.

> i've talked to some people i know about this idea, and someone pointed out 
> that you'd have to burn a CDR every time you wanted to permenatly chage the 
> firewall rules, but what would be wrong with linking the filewall conf(rules) 
> file to a file on the floppy drive?  you could edit it on a different 

CDROMs are cheap.  If I were doing this for my own network, I wouldn't
care about their cost.  I eventually planned to do this, when I could next
afford another computer.

> computer, and then set the floppy disk to be phsically read-only.  mount the 
> disk and restart the firewall deamon causing it to re-read the new file.
> 
> anyone see any serious problems with this?  anyone know if there are any 
> projects like this already out there?  thanks

I don't see any problems.  Its just FreeBSD/ipfw used in a slightly
unconventional way.  You could do this in the time it takes todo a minimal
install to a target directory, customize a kernel, and hack rc.firewall to
suit your needs, and burn the ROM.  (Someone might point out some kooky
bootable CDROM / BIOS issues that I am unaware of.)

LAter,
Jason C. Wells



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