From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 01:09:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1621B106564A for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail958c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail958c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4128FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:09:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from blacky.norwickhouse.net (174-124-57-49.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.57.49] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail958c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p0219h0V028479 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:09:44 GMT Message-ID: <4D1FD057.3040108@centurytel.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 19:09:43 -0600 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100629 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> <4D1F73BF.7090506@centurytel.net> <20110101195137.1c3ea5cf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110101195137.1c3ea5cf.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=RwpxbbGFLutOqglFZulsKHux/BVOHIBOmBQa3oW24sQ= c=1 sm=1 a=HQw7bNSt654A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=7kxGxhHi0jr6GTuHlZLkNQ==:17 a=dynt39AsAAAA:8 a=D11J2_Y6MPYcnibsPooA:9 a=y4bdc0keY9e7pSTu0NzVQX_PAh4A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Jw29t_AgHPoA:10 a=7kxGxhHi0jr6GTuHlZLkNQ==:117 Subject: Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:09:47 -0000 On 01/01/2011 12:51, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:34:39 -0600, "Michael D. Norwick" wrote: > >> And, where are those commented out option lines >> in my xorg.conf documented? >> > In the obvious place: "man xorg.conf". :-) > > > > From 'man xorg.conf' "VIDEOADAPTOR SECTION Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ...". See also 'man radeon' From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 03:01:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EE1106566C; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8439C8FC08; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p0231U5W070487 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:01:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p0231UXJ070486; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA07450; Sat, 1 Jan 11 18:59:48 PST Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 18:59:35 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: arundel@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4d1fea17.C0K1xzB9BK1YFW/J%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4d1fa359.HmAx6dXSxFT4O0Ci%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <20110101221406.GA54772@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20110101221406.GA54772@freebsd.org> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken link in libgeom(3) manpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:01:30 -0000 Alexander Best wrote: > On Sat Jan 1 11, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > The SEE ALSO section of libgeom(3) in 8.1-RELEASE is a link: > > > > http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200308/blueprints.html > > > > That link brings up the daemonnews.org homepage, not the intended > > article ... > > this was already fixed by r216177 ... Which, unfortunately, seems to have removed the link rather than updating it. Cc'ing the article's author, in case he knows a current location that could be used. (It may not be advisable to link to the daemon news archive on gwdu111.gwdg.de, since its copyright status is not entirely clear* and it provides whole issues rather than individual articles.) > but not yet MFC'ed to stable/8. so it looks like 8.2 will also > ship with this defective reference. ---------- * at least, not entirely clear to me, the site being mostly in German. Someone who can read German might find something about the copyright status of the daemon news archive elsewhere on the site. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 03:01:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33F41065670 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846208FC0A for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p0231Tq6070482 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:01:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p0231TsS070481; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA07423; Sat, 1 Jan 11 18:52:38 PST Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 18:52:24 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: amvandemore@gmail.com Message-Id: <4d1fe868.tj1mIiSPhJ6zwkkP%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <4d1fa359.HmAx6dXSxFT4O0Ci%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken link in libgeom(3) manpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:01:30 -0000 Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 3:57 PM, wrote: > >> The SEE ALSO section of libgeom(3) in 8.1-RELEASE is a link: > >> > >> http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200308/blueprints.html > >> > >> That link brings up the daemonnews.org homepage, not the intended > >> article ... > >> Does anyone know where the article can be found? > > Ah, here is a pdf of it. Unsure on any copyright problems though. > > http://gwdu111.gwdg.de/misc/dnews/dnews_0305.pdf Thanks for the pointer. (Actually it is .../dnews_0308.pdf that contains the particular article mentioned in libgeom(3); dnews_0305.pdf contains an earlier article, also by phk@, in the same series, and there was a third in .../dnews_0406.) One _hopes_ that publicly-accessible archives like that have been vetted for copyright concerns. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 03:21:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF8D106566B for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36E88FC0A for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 03:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p023KxDZ087806; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:20:59 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:20:59 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Michael Powell In-Reply-To: <20110101033922.BBE051065783@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20110102130224.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110101033922.BBE051065783@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:21:02 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 343, Issue 10, Message: 23 On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:37:10 -0500 Michael Powell wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: > > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 343, Issue 5, Message: 10 > > On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 11:02:45 -0500 Chris Brennan > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Michael Powell > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Try zeroing out the mbr: > > > > > > > > Boot a LiveFS CD, then at a root prompt do: > > > > > > > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: > > > > > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > > > > > > > where x equals your drive number. This will zero out any old MBR. > > > > Er, no, Mike. The MBR is in sector 0 of the disk; that would zero out > > sector 1 as oseek=1 skips over sector 0. What's in sector 1 depends on > > how/whether the disk is sliced. In a 'dangerously dedicated' (unsliced) > > disk like a memory stick perhaps, this would usually be /boot/boot1 and > > include the bsdlabel. In a sliced disk, sectors 1 to 62 are typically > > unused, the first slice usually starting at sector 63. > > > > t23% fdisk -s ad0 > > /dev/ad0: 232581 cyl 16 hd 63 sec > > Part Start Size Type Flags > > 1: 63 8385867 0x0b 0x00 > > 2: 8385930 125821080 0xa5 0x80 > > 3: 134207010 33543342 0xa5 0x00 > > 4: 167750730 66685815 0xa5 0x00 > > > > If you really want to zero out sector 0, leave out the oseek (or use > > oseek=0) - but you're better off using 'fdisk -Bi' to init a new disk. > > > > Yes - true enough. Was thinking partition table and typed 'mbr'. Well, what's commonly called 'the partition table' is bytes 0x1be-1ff of the MBR, so I was confused by your writing to sector 1 rather than 0, but have a new theory to test, seeing Chris isn't making any progress; this maybe a victim of the old 'slice vs partition' terminology issue. > In my case, a temporary replacement disk had FreeBSD 6.2 on it. Something > changed wrt to disklabeling on the way to 8-Release and the old 6.2 being > present created a situation where that region on the disk was invisible to > the new labeling and wouldn't write out. A new install of 8-Release > (sysinstall) would error out with the same message as Chris when it came to > the point of writing out to the disk. For me, the above 2 commands fixed my > situation. Even though his error is the same, I think his problem may be > different from mine. The bsdlabel lives in sector 1 (counting from 0) of the slice concerned, specifically the first 0x114 (276d) bytes, in the second sector of the boot blocks. As noted above, in unsliced disks such as memstick.img that's sector 1 of the entire disk, but in ordinary sliced disks it's in sector 1 of the _slice_, so if you'd used (here using Chris' ad4) dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 - rather than of=/dev/ad4 - then you would indeed be zeroing out the label, ie the 'partition table' in FreeBSD-speak. Is that perhaps what you had to do to that 6.2 disk, which I suppose was a sliced disk? At 6.x (and 7.x, I think) it could have been 'dangerously dedicated' ie unsliced .. which option has been removed in 8.x _except_ regarding the memstick.img (appearing as /dev/daXa) .. not half confusing, eh? In any case, it'd be a cheap trick for Chris to try from Fixit, and though it seems unlikely there'd be anything 'leftover' from an earlier install, maybe earlier failure/s have left a broken bsdlabel there? So at this still-uninstalled stage it couldn't hurt to zero that sector, or even the first 4KB of ad4s1 .. which is /boot/boot1 plus /boot/boot2 (which equals /boot/boot !) before the label section gets written. ie: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 bs=512 count=8 will remove slice 1's boot blocks entirely, including the bsdlabel. cheers, Ian [excuse broken threading, but unless cc'd I have to reply to the digest] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 1 19:17:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCBA1065696 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9408FC08 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 19:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so5656378eyf.13 for ; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.36.2 with SMTP id r2mr6542861ebd.51.1293909423845; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:17:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.148 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 11:16:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:16:43 -0500 Message-ID: To: Michael Powell X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 04:45:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Dave , perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, paul@fletchermoorland.co.uk, Ian Smith Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 19:17:05 -0000 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Chris Brennan wrote: > I have a 2GB MicroSD card that I am going to toss 8.2BETA1 on, hopefully > later today and see where that gets me. > 2GB MicroSD card was a bust, use a 60GB hard-drive and wrote the image to that, it booted it just fine, but the install failed w/ the exact same error. Could this be the new drive? *shudder* Defective in some way? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 04:46:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5271065673 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 04:46:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52CC8FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 04:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p024kOFe094770; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:46:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p024kOrs094767; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:46:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 21:46:24 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: "Michael D. Norwick" In-Reply-To: <4D1F73BF.7090506@centurytel.net> Message-ID: References: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> <4D1F73BF.7090506@centurytel.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 01 Jan 2011 21:46:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 04:46:29 -0000 On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Okay, closer. Thank You. I commented out the HorizSync and VertRefresh > lines restarted the X session and the screen appeared to fill more but I > still had a black bar to the left at 1600x900. Going to Computer -> System > Settings -> Computer Administration - Display -> Size and Orientation, I > found it at; > > Size 1600x900 > Refresh Auto > > Changed it to > > Size 1280x1024 > Refresh Auto > > Still no full screen width. In fact it got narrower. > > Changed it to > > Size 1440x900 (which had not been an option previously) > The screen appeared to resize to the full width of the display and 'Refresh' > now shows 59.9 Hz. The monitor really is 1600x900, so it's still not quite right. Your /var/log/Xorg.0.log may tell why it's not showing correctly. It sounds like maybe a monitor adjustment. If there's an "Auto" button on the monitor, set xorg.conf to 1600x900 (see below) and try that button. > I won't be pushing any buttons until I understand the effect. I understand > why HorizSync and VertRefresh settings would not be necessary for an LCD > display but the xserver obviously knows what it's connected to. Millions of years ago, when stupid CRTs roamed the earth, a wrong setting could physically damage the monitor. Different refresh rates were used for different resolutions, with 75 Hz or higher needed to avoid flickering (in the US, anyway). So the HorizSync and VertRefresh entries were there to specify the limits of what a given monitor could do, and protect it from incorrect, potentially damaging settings. Today's monitors are smart. The video card has a serial link to them through the VGA cable so the monitor can be queried for resolutions and refresh rates. Even simpler, most LCDs use 60 Hz for a refresh rate, regardless of resolution. This can get more complicated when you talk to xorg through a third-party window manager utility. It's easiest to get xorg.conf set correctly by directly editing xorg.conf. 'Xorg -configure' generates an xorg.conf that is... well, not optimal for today's systems. Whether that's due to apathy, inertia, or aversion due to so many old systems still being around, who knows. Here's what I'd use for your entire Screen section: Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Modes "1600x900" Virtual 1600 900 EndSubSection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 06:15:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCE01065673 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5228FC17 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so5730517eyf.13 for ; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 22:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.34.193 with SMTP id m1mr8402663ebd.25.1293948955575; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 22:15:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.148 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 22:15:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110102130224.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110101033922.BBE051065783@hub.freebsd.org> <20110102130224.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:15:35 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:15:57 -0000 On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Ian Smith wrote: > Well, what's commonly called 'the partition table' is bytes 0x1be-1ff of > the MBR, so I was confused by your writing to sector 1 rather than 0, > but have a new theory to test, seeing Chris isn't making any progress; > this maybe a victim of the old 'slice vs partition' terminology issue. > > I think I was able to figure this part out, his meaning at least. > The bsdlabel lives in sector 1 (counting from 0) of the slice concerned, > specifically the first 0x114 (276d) bytes, in the second sector of the > boot blocks. As noted above, in unsliced disks such as memstick.img > that's sector 1 of the entire disk, but in ordinary sliced disks it's in > sector 1 of the _slice_, so if you'd used (here using Chris' ad4) > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > I would happily run this, but ad4s1 doesn't exist, and hasn't (that I know of), I did do oseek=0 and oseek=1 on /dev/ad4 tho and that didn't change anything, it still says it can't find /dev/ad4s1b (swap obviously) > - rather than of=/dev/ad4 - then you would indeed be zeroing out the > label, ie the 'partition table' in FreeBSD-speak. Is that perhaps what > you had to do to that 6.2 disk, which I suppose was a sliced disk? > > At 6.x (and 7.x, I think) it could have been 'dangerously dedicated' ie > unsliced .. which option has been removed in 8.x _except_ regarding the > memstick.img (appearing as /dev/daXa) .. not half confusing, eh? > > I actually noticed this today, I had issues writing 8.2BETA1 to a 2GB MicroSD card, so I used a 2.5" external hard-drive and from the fixit prompt I noticed that it wrote a 1gb partition for the BETA1 image and left the rest of the desk untouched (ann 59gb of it). > In any case, it'd be a cheap trick for Chris to try from Fixit, and > though it seems unlikely there'd be anything 'leftover' from an earlier > install, maybe earlier failure/s have left a broken bsdlabel there? > > So at this still-uninstalled stage it couldn't hurt to zero that sector, > or even the first 4KB of ad4s1 .. which is /boot/boot1 plus /boot/boot2 > (which equals /boot/boot !) before the label section gets written. ie: > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 bs=512 count=8 > > will remove slice 1's boot blocks entirely, including the bsdlabel. > > cheers, Ian > > [excuse broken threading, but unless cc'd I have to reply to the digest] > I've been trying to keep you in my replies but your down-under, so I don't get your replies till after 1am my time... Anywho, it's late and I need to be up in 8hrs, hopefully this can be figured out ... I would hate for the disk to be defective in some way. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 06:36:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A19106566B for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C5C8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 06:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZHXr-0001pK-Ms for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:35:59 +0100 Received: from pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net ([173.79.85.36]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:35:59 +0100 Received: from nightrecon by pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:35:59 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:39:13 -0500 Lines: 134 Message-ID: References: <20110101033922.BBE051065783@hub.freebsd.org> <20110102130224.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-173-79-85-36.washdc.fios.verizon.net Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:36:01 -0000 Ian Smith wrote: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 343, Issue 10, Message: 23 > On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:37:10 -0500 Michael Powell > wrote: [snip] > > > > > > > > > Try zeroing out the mbr: > > > > > > > > > > Boot a LiveFS CD, then at a root prompt do: > > > > > > > > > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 and: > > > > > > > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/adx oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > > > > > > > > > where x equals your drive number. This will zero out any old > > > > > MBR. > > > > > > Er, no, Mike. The MBR is in sector 0 of the disk; that would zero > > > out > > > sector 1 as oseek=1 skips over sector 0. What's in sector 1 depends > > > on > > > how/whether the disk is sliced. In a 'dangerously dedicated' > > > (unsliced) disk like a memory stick perhaps, this would usually be > > > /boot/boot1 and > > > include the bsdlabel. In a sliced disk, sectors 1 to 62 are > > > typically unused, the first slice usually starting at sector 63. > > > > > > t23% fdisk -s ad0 > > > /dev/ad0: 232581 cyl 16 hd 63 sec > > > Part Start Size Type Flags > > > 1: 63 8385867 0x0b 0x00 > > > 2: 8385930 125821080 0xa5 0x80 > > > 3: 134207010 33543342 0xa5 0x00 > > > 4: 167750730 66685815 0xa5 0x00 > > > > > > If you really want to zero out sector 0, leave out the oseek (or use > > > oseek=0) - but you're better off using 'fdisk -Bi' to init a new > > > disk. > > > > > > > Yes - true enough. Was thinking partition table and typed 'mbr'. > > Well, what's commonly called 'the partition table' is bytes 0x1be-1ff of > the MBR, so I was confused by your writing to sector 1 rather than 0, > but have a new theory to test, seeing Chris isn't making any progress; > this maybe a victim of the old 'slice vs partition' terminology issue. [snip] > > The bsdlabel lives in sector 1 (counting from 0) of the slice concerned, > specifically the first 0x114 (276d) bytes, in the second sector of the > boot blocks. As noted above, in unsliced disks such as memstick.img > that's sector 1 of the entire disk, but in ordinary sliced disks it's in > sector 1 of the _slice_, so if you'd used (here using Chris' ad4) > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > - rather than of=/dev/ad4 - then you would indeed be zeroing out the > label, ie the 'partition table' in FreeBSD-speak. Is that perhaps what > you had to do to that 6.2 disk, which I suppose was a sliced disk? No. I used the of=/dev/ad4 as described above. However, I think you've hit the nail on the head on one aspect. I believe that 6.2 disk was originally set up as "dangerously dedicated". It was so long ago and I had forgotten all about it, but this does dovetail with what your are getting at. The machine that disk went into had been upgraded completely through the 7.x series and on to 8.0-Release before it's disk went up in smoke(literally). I was attempting to do a fresh 'minimal' install of 8.0-Release to the old 6.2 disk pulled off a shelf prior to doing restore(s) of a dump from just the day before. It was only done because it could be done immediately, and a newer, larger, better replacement procured after the fact. Exact copy of error from my notes here: "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev! The creation of filesystems will be aborted." Then pressing "OK" brings this: "Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting." This from sysinstall and occurs after fdisk, labeling, at the point when sysinstall then tries to write out the config to the disk and newfs. > At 6.x (and 7.x, I think) it could have been 'dangerously dedicated' ie > unsliced .. which option has been removed in 8.x _except_ regarding the > memstick.img (appearing as /dev/daXa) .. not half confusing, eh? > > In any case, it'd be a cheap trick for Chris to try from Fixit, and > though it seems unlikely there'd be anything 'leftover' from an earlier > install, maybe earlier failure/s have left a broken bsdlabel there? Or any other form of 'garbage'. I'd use the 8.1 LiveFS CD myself just as a personal preference - but either approach should do the job. > So at this still-uninstalled stage it couldn't hurt to zero that sector, > or even the first 4KB of ad4s1 .. which is /boot/boot1 plus /boot/boot2 > (which equals /boot/boot !) before the label section gets written. ie: > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 bs=512 count=8 > > will remove slice 1's boot blocks entirely, including the bsdlabel. > Yes - I agree. Would also be nice to examine it afterward with a hex editor to actually see *if* all writes were zero. Any 'ones' sprinkled in there, especially in the region of the disk we are talking about would indicate corruption. And my wild guess if this is the situation it may possibly indicate some form of subtle hardware incompatibility most likely a clash of firmwares, e.g. controller and disk(s). Some form of non-standard controller implementation, especially wrt to its firmware being buggy. In the OEM world of the likes of HP, DELL, etc, when this happens a lot of times they kludge together a work around driver that you can get from their tech support. It masks the hardware/firmware problem in software, and is almost always a Windows-centric thing. Bad thing here is the old: "but it worked in 7.x, only fails with 8.x...". Whenever I see _that_ I think "developer involvement/smarter people than me required...". > > [excuse broken threading, but unless cc'd I have to reply to the digest] I use knode and gmane. I also know that (IIRC) you're supposed to reply by email and CC: the list. There is a set of configs which allow one to configure knode to do just this, however, the last two times I've tried it knode crashed horribly. That was a couple of small revisions of KDE ago, so I should soon revisit this myself and see if the bug has ever gotten any love. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 07:19:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6ED1065729 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 07:19:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213328FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 07:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p027JHSe000190; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:19:18 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:19:17 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Chris Brennan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110102172125.J49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110101033922.BBE051065783@hub.freebsd.org> <20110102130224.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:19:20 -0000 On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:15:35 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Ian Smith wrote: [..] > > The bsdlabel lives in sector 1 (counting from 0) of the slice concerned, > > specifically the first 0x114 (276d) bytes, in the second sector of the > > boot blocks. As noted above, in unsliced disks such as memstick.img > > that's sector 1 of the entire disk, but in ordinary sliced disks it's in > > sector 1 of the _slice_, so if you'd used (here using Chris' ad4) > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 oseek=1 bs=512 count=1 > > > > > I would happily run this, but ad4s1 doesn't exist, and hasn't (that I know > of), I did do oseek=0 and oseek=1 on /dev/ad4 tho and that didn't change > anything, it still says it can't find /dev/ad4s1b (swap obviously) On /dev/ad4, oseek=0 zeroes sector 0, the MBR including DOS partition (FreeBSD slice) table, so that would kill all the slice data, so sure, ad4s1 won't exist. oseek=1 just zeroes an unused sector as we've seen. What you _can_ do from that state is: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 which will remove the first 4K of (what will be) slice 1, in case there's a misconfigured bsdlabel there, for later. I'm not convinced this is likely your problem, but it can't hurt before slice 1 exists (by virtue of having an entry in the MBR, when it should show up in /dev) > > At 6.x (and 7.x, I think) it could have been 'dangerously dedicated' ie > > unsliced .. which option has been removed in 8.x _except_ regarding the > > memstick.img (appearing as /dev/daXa) .. not half confusing, eh? > > > > > I actually noticed this today, I had issues writing 8.2BETA1 to a 2GB > MicroSD card, so I used a 2.5" external hard-drive and from the fixit prompt > I noticed that it wrote a 1gb partition for the BETA1 image and left the > rest of the desk untouched (ann 59gb of it). Do you mean you dd'd the memstick.img to the external USB drive? And that booted ok? And sysinstall found it ok, as /dev/ad0a? Details! > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4s1 bs=512 count=8 > > > > will remove slice 1's boot blocks entirely, including the bsdlabel. Given you've shown previously that s1 starts at sector 63, so will: sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 > > [excuse broken threading, but unless cc'd I have to reply to the digest] > > I've been trying to keep you in my replies Getting yours fine; that was re my reply to Mike's message. > but your down-under, so I don't get your replies till after 1am my > time... Anywho, it's late and I need to be up in 8hrs, hopefully this Yeah North America is so yesterday from here (well, 16 hours for you :) > can be figured out ... I would hate for the disk to be defective in > some way. Of course that's not impossible, but you did say you'd installed some linux on it ok? Clutching at straws, is there anything in your BIOS regarding different SATA modes you can play with? (No SATA disks here) Something else you could try is W)riting the slice table + MBR out from the fdisk menu, then quit sysinstall and reboot. You can do the same after labelling but before newfs'ing .. not generally recommended, but safe enough on a blank disk. If you do the latter, you'll have to reenter your mount points later, so make a note of the order and size of partitions that you specified. 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Thanks, Henley Miller Patrick. co-managerpets Rescue Foundation From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 09:11:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7AE1065673 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [IPv6:2607:f678:1010::34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F42C8FC15 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 09:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id p029BMEX002692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:11:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id p029BL9M002691 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 01:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA00895; Sun, 2 Jan 11 01:07:53 PST Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:07:39 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4d20405b.peoSjXlhfff4u/n7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: kernel config =?> kernel code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:11:22 -0000 This feels like a really dumb (as in, the answer should be obvious) question, but so far it has eluded me: Given an option name in the kernel configuration file, how -- exactly -- does the directive to include or exclude that option get translated into particular code (source lines, .o files, symbols, etc.) that are thereby included in or excluded from the kernel? For example, the presence or absence of GEOM_PART_BSD or GEOM_PART_MBR presumably results in the inclusion or exclusion of _some_ code _somewhere_, but I've been unable to figure out how the correspondence is established. There's a mapping from option names to .h files in conf/options -- both GEOM_PART_BSD and GEOM_PART_MBR map to opt_geom.h -- and I suppose this is what causes config to create lines like #define GEOM_PART_MBR 1 and #define GEOM_PART_BSD 1 in /opt_geom.h, but I haven't found any #ifdef's or other uses of those symbols anywhere under /usr/src/sys or /usr/obj. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 10:19:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F29106566C for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BEE8FC1D for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:19:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF18E60EA; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:19:31 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=MSUYsCFIxiZG zT55iKK0h4HQpAk=; b=gLnfHt8VT3MY2zrPHA+3VcQmmN8H3iI767YlVQmurd6r fXIYKUShbDmlcyxZBon2wlxmfF6LtyGV+sZNZe4yb1XAJor0izgysibPhon9EQBb sqnb+xo0T7So518UGHrZoBo2W67mq73xe9MgoilgIYU8qb3M5laAXnR3QzR5qEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=syZqDG GV73kUso1m6hIhLpjQDIKZ4dsMb34puTWKCVPuUMdXmeluQa5jn665I3l+GobMfi Y8ATNQ96hDGHgxNxJaqYC0HpJ5Ka4m9wXYSdg23empxXYJVDrn7B8AMF1DThkKq7 HI5rGqNAhNBhoO9gh1h8TnyT70bf+Qu/k24UU= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57262E60D3; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:19:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:19:28 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Michael Powell Message-ID: <20110102101928.000060ce@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20110101033922.BBE051065783@hub.freebsd.org> <20110102130224.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 10:19:33 -0000 On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:39:13 -0500 Michael Powell wrote: > "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev! The creation of > filesystems will be aborted." Then pressing "OK" brings this: > "Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting." > > This from sysinstall and occurs after fdisk, labeling, at the point > when sysinstall then tries to write out the config to the disk and > newfs. This can happen if you've had it partitioned using GPT at some point - in that case you need to use dd to zero the first _and_ last sectors of the disk. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 10:22:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCE61065672 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154CA8FC13 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F589E60EA; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:22:58 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=SArK+e+jq+O9 Ac+iRWge7s6m0nE=; b=xt7gRweV/7QuI7UoaYCpkTPwRRAQx9flIQLiJ9q82U+k QKR87lT7z8X1GmgtAu9BBk3BM2IcToyZYk3M2YdQARv8+0vzTG45rEMLEmNsUyNo DlccUtqHW1gr5zFY3wU9LAZswnY0HMepD/uNE2SjJe/X7AyfTkTZzJcohPMSIwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=bGT2S+ LQN7QmrvLDmLfZsbHEm/ahEUVfk+ZINKq6oDZoeib9SI4/qTRcQB9coQ9q4d5t6m se7YUI8+my1UDlEGoyVAgj8LSIelb7FMHJ/rkid8lqyyfIH4RUi7uFTlTRwn9k3M LjUchX3nRaOj1khComQu1P5LzLEh5DnbrGKtI= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4D11E60D3; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:22:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:22:55 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Chris Brennan Message-ID: <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 10:22:59 -0000 On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 01:13:57 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > No worries on missing it, I'm not sure that helped, I farted around > with it again earlier today with little more in the way of success. > What I tried was to just set up '/' and swamp and it still prompted > me about not being able to find /dev/ad4s1b. See my post later in the thread: this most likely has nothing to do with the partition layout but the fact that FreeBSD is finding an old partition scheme. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 12:21:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC8F1065695 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BD58FC17 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:21:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so11922644iyb.13 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 04:21:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lyZIg/hzc6Kyk6pcE2u3TRr47FVFAl61iQxRvJoWdkM=; b=l4shMgrU602oQH3qZF4CX4YIuIGNT9YlerptYrEr3e473f74fpTmxqiJO/CNKZwiLf zZMGVoqx6ZtF/MyRkyh1f3MO1vo7Gc1JP4Y5lpRtWi/g2/MiqQ3k1pb25dF3nM7YFa/v l2rPtps7Jp+qdtg+yt2l51IaX2G/9qWWdxAvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o9ByFmCKPk0lAwzMKAW+G/c1dFONZrElsSje5AAsGx0DDwwCVYzsV7BFBSLfPVjkZ8 9zqMFE48pA4UBDU/bCc0Wv99QsaF4eUdLA4hEjsHwdUlko5YGz3iDfZM34mXatpgaRc7 M6UoDuPjIfT8f9gfNoyMzducoZrqA15jxCK2k= Received: by 10.42.224.8 with SMTP id im8mr20249218icb.491.1293969220210; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([14.96.209.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i2sm16613287icv.3.2011.01.02.03.53.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:53:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D206791.9010001@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:24:57 +0530 From: Manish Jain User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to get Huawei USB modem to work ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:21:18 -0000 Hello, From a similar thread, I picked up some information that I should try kldload'ing usba. But when I ran the command, I got an error message that there is no such module. I searched under sys/modules and there was no usba.ko Can somebody please tell me how to get my Huawei USB dial-up modem to work on FreeBSD 8.1 ? From dmesg, I have the following information : Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s2a ugen0.3: at usbus0 u3g0: on usbus0 u3g0: Found 3 ports. umass0: on usbus0 umass0: SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [16896 x 2048 byte records] (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0 (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM status: SCSI Status Error (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI status: Check Condition (probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not present) da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 1 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Manish Jain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 13:14:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923D9106564A for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fluffy@fluffy.khv.ru) Received: from forward12.mail.yandex.net (forward12.mail.yandex.net [95.108.130.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43D88FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from web128.yandex.ru (web128.yandex.ru [95.108.131.225]) by forward12.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4C47D2210492; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:58:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by web128.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 3ECC0EF0096; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:58:22 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [46.38.1.85] ([46.38.1.85]) by mail.yandex.ru with HTTP; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:58:20 +0300 From: Dima Panov To: Manish Jain In-Reply-To: <4D206791.9010001@gmail.com> References: <4D206791.9010001@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <142071293973100@web128.yandex.ru> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:58:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Yamail [ http://yandex.ru ] 5.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to get Huawei USB modem to work ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:14:16 -0000 Hello! Try to follow my experience :) http://dimapanov.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/huswei-e1550-freebsd/ 02.01.2011, 21:54, "Manish Jain" : > šššHello, > šššFrom a similar thread, I picked up some information that I should try > ššškldload'ing usba. But when I ran the command, I got an error message > šššthat there is no such module. I searched under sys/modules and there > šššwas no usba.ko > šššCan somebody please tell me how to get my Huawei USB dial-up modem to > šššwork on FreeBSD 8.1 ? From dmesg, I have the following information : > šššTrying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s2a > šššugen0.3: at usbus0 > šššu3g0: on usbus0 > šššu3g0: Found 3 ports. > šššumass0: šššaddr 3> on usbus0 > šššumass0: šSCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x0000 > šššumass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0 > šššcd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 > šššcd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device > šššcd0: 1.000MB/s transfers > šššcd0: cd present [16896 x 2048 byte records] > ššš(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): TEST UNIT READY. CDB: 0 20 0 0 0 0 > ššš(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): CAM status: SCSI Status Error > ššš(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI status: Check Condition > ššš(probe0:umass-sim0:0:0:1): SCSI sense: NOT READY asc:3a,0 (Medium not > šššpresent) > šššda0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 1 > šššda0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > šššda0: 1.000MB/s transfers > šššda0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not > šššpresent > šššdrm0: on vgapci0 > šššinfo: [drm] MSI enabled 1 message(s) > šššvgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster > šššAny help would be greatly appreciated. > šššThanks > šššManish Jain > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Dima Panov (fluffy@FreeBSD.org) KDE@FreeBSD team Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/?id=100000181104157 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 14:00:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EA6F1065672 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BFCE8FC0C for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so5840993bwz.13 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:00:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=YoXlhLvyCMxFyEcqK7wOjwdvBI3lST7O02UrugoCHhI=; b=wx9PCY5oNeId3lVDpIyfaqmbHsEA92XJe5nhRad5Hk1oaGdvzHDh3dhV3QOttIqOEV bDEqilSyX6IeEQYG7YuVpyp7KRaJ3FQMNASRJ78cE6hLpzCi4OtzC+uUJ1xIajbwyeYL MMLMXdOHGVMzlWUNK4iK2KhPmVn/r0OQITR3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=yF9+1ap6tNCDNeoJyGFYCogoF1lB6TjaumrcoineRczyNvHC9i34yv5h900jkGAMnP hWAnxroJ6GPIDLq9y3CEFOBdNao5KF4ML9wATC3PeVgPeLgJOmrd2Vr8KdkULLx7RTwH weRQOS3yeW0vmk5mzmcvutnmMkorZ33wP9ttw= Received: by 10.204.60.76 with SMTP id o12mr8992052bkh.3.1293975022954; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 05:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from tardis.elkotek ([88.229.170.57]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v25sm10829285bkt.6.2011.01.02.05.30.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Jan 2011 05:30:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D207DE4.9040304@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:30:12 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?R8O2a8WfaW4gQWtkZW5peg==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; tr-TR; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101210 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> <4D1F73BF.7090506@centurytel.net> <20110101195137.1c3ea5cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <4D1FD057.3040108@centurytel.net> In-Reply-To: <4D1FD057.3040108@centurytel.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0A130DBC341E57252FF78D47" Subject: Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:00:55 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0A130DBC341E57252FF78D47 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070709040805070204040501" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070709040805070204040501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 02/01/2011 03:09, Michael D. Norwick yazm=C4=B1=C5=9F: > On 01/01/2011 12:51, Polytropon wrote: >> On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:34:39 -0600, "Michael D. >> Norwick" wrote: >> =20 >>> And, where are those commented out option lines >>> in my xorg.conf documented? >>> =20 >> In the obvious place: "man xorg.conf". :-) >> >> >> >> =20 > From 'man xorg.conf' "VIDEOADAPTOR SECTION > Nobody wants to say how this works. Maybe nobody knows ...".=20 > See also 'man radeon' > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 I attached the complete xorg.conf file which works fine at my FreeBSD installation. That very configuration file worked fine for a PC-BSD 8.0 install on the same hardware. 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Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> <4D1F73BF.7090506@centurytel.net> <20110101195137.1c3ea5cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <4D1FD057.3040108@centurytel.net> In-Reply-To: <4D1FD057.3040108@centurytel.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig640EE8B64886B9EBE197B1C4" Subject: Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:30:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig640EE8B64886B9EBE197B1C4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Original message bounced somehow, so I post it one more time. Sorry for the inconvenience. I copied the complete xorg.conf file which works fine at my FreeBSD installation. That very configuration file worked fine for a PC-BSD 8.0 installation on the same hardware. I compiled Xorg via ports without HAL. So you may need to adjust it for your installation in order to work. I hope it works for you. xorg.conf is as follows Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "DontZap" "off" Option "AutoAddDevices" "false" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "extmod" Load "record" Load "dbe" Load "glx" Load "dri" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "Xkblayout" "tr" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 440 250 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "HWP" ModelName "HP 2009" HorizSync 24.0 - 85.0 VertRefresh 48.0 - 76.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize" # #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip" # [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "DMAForXv" # [] #Option "FBTexPercent" # #Option "DepthBits" # #Option "PCIAPERSize" # #Option "AccelDFS" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID" # [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "ColorTiling" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "RageTheatreCrystal" # #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # #Option "RageTheatreSVideoPort" # #Option "TunerType" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocPath" # #Option "RageTheatreMicrocType" # #Option "ScalerWidth" # #Option "RenderAccel" # [] #Option "SubPixelOrder" # [] #Option "ShowCache" # [] #Option "DynamicClocks" # [] #Option "VGAAccess" # [] #Option "ReverseDDC" # [] #Option "LVDSProbePLL" # [] #Option "AccelMethod" # #Option "DRI" # [] #Option "ConnectorTable" # #Option "DefaultConnectorTable" # [] #Option "DefaultTMDSPLL" # [] #Option "TVDACLoadDetect" # [] #Option "ForceTVOut" # [] #Option "TVStandard" # #Option "IgnoreLidStatus" # [] #Option "DefaultTVDACAdj" # [] #Option "Int10" # [] #Option "EXAVSync" # [] #Option "ATOMTVOut" # [] #Option "R4xxATOM" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc" BoardName "RV730 PRO [Radeon HD 4650]" BusID "PCI:2:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 Modes "1600x900" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 Modes "1600x900" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes "1600x900" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 Modes "1600x900" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "1600x900" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x900" EndSubSection EndSection --=20 G=C3=B6k=C5=9Fin Akdeniz (G=C3=B6k=C5=9Fin Akdeniz) Key fingerprint =3D FE10 8C14 A144 4FDE BE18 D5E3 E758 F49A 8A5D F8AE --------------enig640EE8B64886B9EBE197B1C4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNIIwTAAoJEOdY9JqKXfiuw3oQAMwQBqFLDOrHPcVRwdY8Gk4r CZyIJqyQ1Waf5FOXIKH9HMbSfS09pfjNt2lafOwhJorwgMjcQ9NRg1SGVYO0kLfX 256+cEkH2RR/XFnqlPUA3Qegn5uM8lVkPNsQ6RDgWsKxdRlpUwVMza2akPFUsuKX XiykIiXkYU/JZ5pZGCdcvv3+ngSsg9piKbRCvB0FiUg24Pr3R+LqRe3AgqxeevgF yCxMZ1U6dNJI2Dm22hDZfI64cdoH5ZeH+aNKsgIcZctqhNSmJQOQc2mBjoVkH2Zw 59dJy9+MVMfpTX5sjAWNknNJuecDoQ3wUw45usFL2LrFp2D7wZx0i392auV389Ro TVYqZiM2Vov4raGwKUG260T/iMVatqa5sGUddtnW638WLiDY2yJSyWmvoGFq5/GT ejONtfO68NYdrh4Q9cZYSW9pXBPVqFj322U+RfzSVGFgp00hArURIxesD3tsPOuu PbQSclOKUyzsApBesbzAkRJeoNN4onMjQbrJW4xuOV56pLqOqGLaSKAiD688EH50 rYKMwH+agLkPi+hThahrceA7qbpf/+5nYf/B1SAc49HYk7gdQWcbyjAagbERaVx7 SEFaHyGUNvzB0Jmm1q3W3zeeM9JtI2o3/cs71Agagpw0X8zc7h+Mp5M/rncZfmTz FEjxe6UudLHIBJyjOYKW =gzxT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig640EE8B64886B9EBE197B1C4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 15:16:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4807410656AA for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:16:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E198FC1E for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p02FFwrB024946; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 02:15:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 02:15:57 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> Message-ID: <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:16:10 -0000 On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:22:55 +0000, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 01:13:57 -0500 > Chris Brennan wrote: > > > No worries on missing it, I'm not sure that helped, I farted around > > with it again earlier today with little more in the way of success. > > What I tried was to just set up '/' and swamp and it still prompted > > me about not being able to find /dev/ad4s1b. > > See my post later in the thread: this most likely has nothing to do > with the partition layout but the fact that FreeBSD is finding an old > partition scheme. Even dodgier than waiting to quote a message from a digest that hasn't arrived yet is hand-indenting a paste from pipermail :) but I'll hang this off your thread, thanks Bruce .. > > On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:39:13 -0500 > > Michael Powell wrote: > > > "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev! The creation of > > filesystems will be aborted." Then pressing "OK" brings this: > > "Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting." > > > > This from sysinstall and occurs after fdisk, labeling, at the point > > when sysinstall then tries to write out the config to the disk and > > newfs. > > This can happen if you've had it partitioned using GPT at some point > - in that case you need to use dd to zero the first _and_ last > sectors of the disk. Although it's a brand new disk, quoting Chris' original message after skipping the shutdown when too hot issue: > gonna let it cool down and try the smart tests again. Incidentally, I > was able to boot a gentoo disc and set up an ext4 filesystem on the > same disk and it worked fine, so I don't understand why freebsd can't > preform a newfs on the drive. Hmm, should we bet against a gentoo install using GPT these days? Finding out about the actual disk layout in gpt(8), gpart(8) etc proving fruitless and finding nothing in Handbook, FAQ or wiki, I resorted to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table for hopefully correct information. I hadn't even known that sectors 1-33 were used for the GPT (making Mike's zeroing of sector 1 sensible even on sliced disks), nor that the last 33 sectors were for its backup table, thanks. So: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da4 skip=N where N is the known total number of sectors minus 34, should do it? If not, we can't rule out Mike's concerns about BIOS incompatibility or such, but this sure sounds like the next thing Chris should try. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 15:28:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B31065675 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:28:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1E78FC1D for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p02FS2eJ025565; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 02:28:02 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 02:28:02 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:28:10 -0000 On Mon, 3 Jan 2011, Ian Smith wrote: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da4 skip=N > > where N is the known total number of sectors minus 34, should do it? Argh .. that should be seek=N, not skip. Up way too late .. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 19:56:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18397106564A for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@speakeasy.net) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B3B8FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 19:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3847 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2011 19:56:34 -0000 Received: from dsl081-163-121.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO w16.stradamotorsports.com) (jcw@[64.81.163.121]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Jan 2011 19:56:34 -0000 Message-ID: <4D20D872.3020400@speakeasy.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 11:56:34 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100808 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Half a Mirror Backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 19:56:35 -0000 Is using one half of a mirror as a backup a good/bad idea? I was thinking of rotating drives on a periodic basis as a back up method. You'd get the backup instantly, but rebuilding the mirror with the incoming drive would take a little time and leave you vulnerable to a small loss of data if a disk failed while the mirror was rebuilding. Regards, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 20:30:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7F61065672 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22708FC12 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so6106060ewy.13 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:30:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.123.68 with SMTP id u44mr12759724eeh.21.1294000247783; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.124.148 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:30:47 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [64.81.163.112] In-Reply-To: <4D20D872.3020400@speakeasy.net> References: <4D20D872.3020400@speakeasy.net> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:30:47 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd general questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Half a Mirror Backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 20:30:49 -0000 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Is using one half of a mirror as a backup a good/bad idea? > > I was thinking of rotating drives on a periodic basis as a back up method= . > =A0You'd get the backup instantly, but rebuilding the mirror with the inc= oming > drive would take a little time and leave you vulnerable to a small loss o= f > data if a disk failed while the mirror was rebuilding. Besides the problem you mention, you'll have a pretty sizable performance hit while the mirror is being rebuilt. Also, keep in mind that the most likely time for a second drive to fail is during a rebuild, since the rebuild forces a read from every sector. I think I would use rsync or dump instead, although I have to admit the rotating mirror idea is clever. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 21:28:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A9B106564A for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E408FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22CB48.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.203.72]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p02LS956050780; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:28:10 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p02LRwrY017965; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:27:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p02LRxSj037409; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:28:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201101022128.p02LRxSj037409@fire.js.berklix.net> To: David Brodbeck From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:30:47 PST." Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:27:59 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: Half a Mirror Backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:28:13 -0000 David Brodbeck wrote: > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jason C. Wells wrote: > > Is using one half of a mirror as a backup a good/bad idea? > > > > I was thinking of rotating drives on a periodic basis as a back up method. > >  You'd get the backup instantly, but rebuilding the mirror with the incoming > > drive would take a little time and leave you vulnerable to a small loss of > > data if a disk failed while the mirror was rebuilding. > > Besides the problem you mention, you'll have a pretty sizable > performance hit while the mirror is being rebuilt. Also, keep in mind > that the most likely time for a second drive to fail is during a > rebuild, since the rebuild forces a read from every sector. I think I > would use rsync or dump instead, although I have to admit the rotating > mirror idea is clever. Ref rsync: Personally I use rdist6, (from familiarity=habit rather than conscious choice, (it's more limited predecessor rdist, has been in BSD a Long time)) But beware: rdist6 fails on files bigger than 2G on i686 but (not on amd64, on amd64 no problem), I wouldnt know if rsync might have a similar 2G restriction. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 21:29:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38566106566C for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1477A8FC19 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2C6EAE80809; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:29:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:29:44 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110102212941.GA25232@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: is there a "best" online python tutorial? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:29:45 -0000 Guys, I actaully have studied python...but only for about twenty minutes); maybe a few days, actually. What is the best online tutorial to learn python? With ink+paper book, altho in lots of ways I prefer real books, they almost demand two hands. Or paper weights, in my case. thanks in advance for the gbest, or top two or three sites, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 21:39:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A09106564A for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523FD8FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:39:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p02LdIif059898 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:39:18 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p02LdIif059898 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294004358; bh=v1muL5E2ZoTc0RKPyjI2dIHBTHisXJH1KpjXPXAUVyY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D20F07B.6040903@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2002=20Jan=202011=2021:39:07=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20David=20Brodbeck=20|CC:=20freebsd=20general =20questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Ha lf=20a=20Mirror=20Backup|References:=20<4D20D872.3020400@speakeasy .net>=20|In-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE9 08C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D "------------enig835D56775F51CCD51138219A"; b=x0GONbUWak+Rmuf3BVV+z9iqcdcHvJsIGLe6Rbk4eF3GhpP4H6zRUtbhIPpHfAFmq fobhwGd+krQWeGPItWO45WB14fod1t8Hokx+BW6ykzobiJheOoPYE2t58feVlHR/K4 RLKaAfKL5Kzte/8oitagA/eC7t0QLxBB5oGRZoUo= Message-ID: <4D20F07B.6040903@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:39:07 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Brodbeck References: <4D20D872.3020400@speakeasy.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig835D56775F51CCD51138219A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: Half a Mirror Backup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:39:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig835D56775F51CCD51138219A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/01/2011 20:30, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Jason C. Wells wro= te: >> Is using one half of a mirror as a backup a good/bad idea? >> >> I was thinking of rotating drives on a periodic basis as a back up met= hod. >> You'd get the backup instantly, but rebuilding the mirror with the in= coming >> drive would take a little time and leave you vulnerable to a small los= s of >> data if a disk failed while the mirror was rebuilding. >=20 > Besides the problem you mention, you'll have a pretty sizable > performance hit while the mirror is being rebuilt. Also, keep in mind > that the most likely time for a second drive to fail is during a > rebuild, since the rebuild forces a read from every sector. I think I > would use rsync or dump instead, although I have to admit the rotating > mirror idea is clever. It's a well known and really pretty clever technique to obtain a point-in-time image of a filesystem without needing lengthy outages. Two points: 1) The classic way of doing this without losing resilience is to use a mirror of three disks. Typically you'ld attach a third drive to the existing mirror, let it synch its contents, detach it and then backup the third disk's content to tape at leisure. 2) It's rendered pretty much obsolete if you have a filesystem that you can snapshot. Which you can for both UFS and ZFS. Take snapshots of your filesystems, mount the snapshots and back them up. It's exceedingly easy with ZFS(*), and only slightly more involved with UFS. In fact, snapshotting ZFS is so easy, that it is common practice to create snapshots at regular intervals -- hourly is not unknown -- and keep several days worth on-line as insurance against accidental deletions and so forth. Note: this does *not* constitute a proper backup. Without off-line copies (or preferably off-site copies) if your computer gets destroyed by fire, flood or whatever, then you will loose your data. Cheers, Matthew (*) Hint: ZFS snapshots automount at /${filesystem}/.zfs/snapshot/${snapname} if you just cd to that directory= =2E --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig835D56775F51CCD51138219A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0g8IUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxKHQCeJ6QT382I9ZRkYFbMuBHRRQve VZ0AmQFADOvFLWtEteKbtXs8Y/1iolcj =WC2m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig835D56775F51CCD51138219A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 21:45:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669C71065670 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberleo@cyberleo.net) Received: from paka.cyberleo.net (paka.cyberleo.net [66.219.31.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BE58FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.44.4] (den.cyberleo.net [66.253.36.39]) by paka.cyberleo.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 38937295FC; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:45:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4D20F1F0.8050806@cyberleo.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:45:20 -0600 From: CyberLeo Kitsana User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101218 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: perryh@pluto.rain.com References: <4d20405b.peoSjXlhfff4u/n7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <4d20405b.peoSjXlhfff4u/n7%perryh@pluto.rain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel config =?> kernel code X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:45:22 -0000 On 01/02/2011 03:07 AM, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > This feels like a really dumb (as in, the answer should be obvious) > question, but so far it has eluded me: Given an option name in the > kernel configuration file, how -- exactly -- does the directive to > include or exclude that option get translated into particular code > (source lines, .o files, symbols, etc.) that are thereby included in > or excluded from the kernel? This is of interest to me as well, as I have been trying for a while to create something to avoid building or installing kmods whose functionality is already built into the kernel proper. The furthest I got in my investigation was some parsing of sys/conf/files[1]. [1] http://wiki.cyberleo.net/wiki/KnowledgeBase/FreeBSD/srcsysmod_kmod.sh -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://wwww.fur.com/peace/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 22:52:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D5F1065696 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9DC8FC15 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:52:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.2, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_50 0.80) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: p02Mq1Ov020556 Received: from gkeramidas-glaptop.linux.gr (217-162-216-74.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.216.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id p02Mq1Ov020556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:52:07 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20110102212941.GA25232@thought.org> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:51:38 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20110102212941.GA25232@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:29:44 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a "best" online python tutorial? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:52:18 -0000 On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:29:44 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, > > I actaully have studied python...but only for about twenty > minutes); maybe a few days, actually. What is the best online > tutorial to learn python? With ink+paper book, altho in lots of > ways I prefer real books, they almost demand two hands. Or > paper weights, in my case. > > thanks in advance for the gbest, or top two or three sites, > gary Start at the online docs section of www.python.org: http://www.python.org/doc/ The 'Additional documentation' section has a few very good guides. Then there's always a number of books that you can read online, download, print and use offline too: =E2=80=A2 How to Think Like a Computer Scientist =E2=80=94 http://openb= ookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english2e/ An introductory book that teaches basic concepts of programming, algorithms and Python. Highly recommended, because of its excellent writing style and the large number of topics it covers (recursion, exceptions, object oriented programming, data structures [lists, stacks, queues, etc.]). =E2=80=A2 A Byte of Python =E2=80=94 http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Pyt= hon An introductory book about Python, updated even to version 3.0 of the language. Written by Swaroop C.H., a developer in India who maintains the book for several versions of Python. =E2=80=A2 Dive Into Python =E2=80=94 http://diveintopython.org/ A Python book for experienced programmers. If you already know how to program in other languages and you are looking for a nice guide that will teach you 'pythonic' ways of writing code, this is an excellent book. Even more guides for Python are listed at: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 2 23:53:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528A6106566B for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnorwick@centurytel.net) Received: from mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD418FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:53:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Authenticated-User: mnorwick.centurytel.net Received: from blacky.norwickhouse.net (174-124-57-49.dyn.centurytel.net [174.124.57.49] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail962c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id p02Nr1wX023409 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 23:53:02 GMT Message-ID: <4D210FDC.4080204@centurytel.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:53:00 -0600 From: "Michael D. Norwick" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100629 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> <4D1F73BF.7090506@centurytel.net> <20110101195137.1c3ea5cf.freebsd@edvax.de> <4D1FD057.3040108@centurytel.net> <4D208C0D.1070406@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D208C0D.1070406@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CSC: 0 X-CHA: v=1.1 cv=R01sVMDNjbNhvcC8XU3DMjW3O4aLU9Ofq1NiLpBMeGs= c=1 sm=1 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=7kxGxhHi0jr6GTuHlZLkNQ==:17 a=ZtJQs9oUZrivEadWS8oA:9 a=WIHmj6Lur-yNlqSG6xRiMGBP6J8A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=7kxGxhHi0jr6GTuHlZLkNQ==:117 Subject: Re: HP 2010i X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 23:53:04 -0000 On 01/01/2011 22:46, Warren Block wrote: < snipped > On 01/02/2011 08:30, GökÅŸin Akdeniz wrote: < snipped > Thank you for your responses. I have probably taken up as much bandwidth as I deserve with this subject. I tried the attached xorg.conf with the same results. A right skewed screen with no apparent way to adjust it back centered @ 1600x900. Using the display properties (in the PC BSD/K.D.E. application launcher), I was able to make it 1400x900 at 59.9 Hz., with a properly filled display. The text and icons are not stretched weird as they were at 1024x768 so maybe I'll just play around with fonts. I think I can live with this. Thank You again for your help. Michael Wishing HP, Dell, IBM and Oracle etc., would get a clue. :( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 00:36:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558DF1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D711F8FC1D for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so12719462fxm.13 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:36:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ul4TsDky2romwL8NGHnI0kTXMPDdm/kSK3/cqfjNZyE=; b=oerXoHB4lVE5ePv8riGwQButQMIth/d4kGw7pJYBDrCucuC/cK6XmaLfZBBUXviZgA P3AbARZ99GtQ6DWBNeE2KFrd52K+PHnmTX7qC12q7hmyEBK7a3AiEqrg/jHeRR8ixc7S eekaJMLJgAUDwZRoqckN5fWj9djhqinYBlBX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ftnfzn+M1S+fGVYLIRLSbQ2rDiXIl3XmJG2Gww7bTQLsyO26aSSDguDfo0JksaIeWm pwjFI4/voSU/CJBo9mADqBrmsZwpk4SjTz1HPpoLYtWLl0gPJEUfg9hVq+5Wo+tmBwzH 9eh5Pm5ROAEkmXv90Xxz9bGvR9lkmSq7rMnZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.85.203 with SMTP id p11mr4762663fal.108.1294015013664; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:36:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:36:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> References: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 18:36:53 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: "Michael D. Norwick" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:36:55 -0000 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Michael D. Norwick wrote: > Happy New Year! > > I bought a new HP 2010i LCD monitor that is supposed to give me 1600x900 > resolution at 60 Hz to replace a generic 19" C.R.T. monitor that did > 1024x768. The machine has an ATI Radeon video card and I am using a V.G.A. > cable not H.D.M.I. I reconfigured my /etc/xorg.conf using Xorg --configure. > I was given the full screen at 1600x900 resolution at the next reboot but > then while trying to adjust some monitor settings such as Power Saver and > Sleep Timer the screen adjusted to the right and will not center. Adjusting > the horizontal control to '0' (full left?) will not center the display. > The easiest thing to do is to simply start X without xorg.conf present. It will automatically run with highest settings your devices are capable of. mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old restart X -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 00:46:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F3A106564A for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B05C8FC08 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 174-21-108-47.tukw.qwest.net ([174.21.108.47] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZYZO-00028Y-8u for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:46:43 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:46:44 -0800 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 16:46:44 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110103004644.GB3398@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D1E9A62.1040502@centurytel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: HP 2010i 1600x900 screen sizing issue - PCBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:46:50 -0000 --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Adam Vande More on Sunday, 02 January 2011: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Michael D. Norwick > wrote: >=20 > > Happy New Year! > > > > I bought a new HP 2010i LCD monitor that is supposed to give me 1600x900 > > resolution at 60 Hz to replace a generic 19" C.R.T. monitor that did > > 1024x768. The machine has an ATI Radeon video card and I am using a V.= G.A. > > cable not H.D.M.I. I reconfigured my /etc/xorg.conf using Xorg --confi= gure. > > I was given the full screen at 1600x900 resolution at the next reboot = but > > then while trying to adjust some monitor settings such as Power Saver a= nd > > Sleep Timer the screen adjusted to the right and will not center. Adju= sting > > the horizontal control to '0' (full left?) will not center the display. > > >=20 > The easiest thing to do is to simply start X without xorg.conf present. = It > will automatically run with highest settings your devices are capable of. >=20 > mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old > restart X >=20 > --=20 > Adam Vande More > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Not always. On my laptop, Xorg wouldn't even run without specifying refresh rates. But in general, that's a good place to start. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNIRx0AAoJEIpckszW26+R6moH/RysdEgfIb/j4sPmB+08Y9v7 xtE6gnQfA0yG9LWBFDJb+6v+37W6RIWsDdxuhEWydGod3WyX0AmSEflL8HuaGLDH aNUIS0Hp+kU9BivAuU/mFPOtCKTdWhGQ25UNG79ZP4GPNgC+v5YyLmjU4IZn61wy 3hcpS2QiMk+tMuMo9HXb+zTXFGy10MdihYraeSx/cUwm6nXuqPzeKtVqUKvyD6e/ AhGvAKVp60EFGOhktFr2Ow3xNTWyghLWTMR6LHWDjTZzHFA7yrWV3+FbxYDWQvVZ caKew0lr08bOR3KpscXVHVHr5HNDVg3s3mMJ3v5WfM/PbH+p+pkxyJCRZl8L1uY= =+RDy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GID0FwUMdk1T2AWN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 06:02:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AE5106566C for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB4C8FC12 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 06:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.47.0.108] (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.108]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p0362Z1m029265; Sun, 2 Jan 2011 22:02:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: kline To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: References: <20110102212941.GA25232@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: Thought Unlimited Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:02:34 -0800 Message-ID: <1294034554.2576.1025.camel@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a "best" online python tutorial? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 06:02:44 -0000 On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 23:51 +0100, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:29:44 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > > > I actaully have studied python...but only for about twenty > > minutes); maybe a few days, actually. What is the best online > > tutorial to learn python? With ink+paper book, altho in lots of > > ways I prefer real books, they almost demand two hands. Or > > paper weights, in my case. > > > > thanks in advance for the gbest, or top two or three sites, > > gary > > Start at the online docs section of www.python.org: > > http://www.python.org/doc/ > > The 'Additional documentation' section has a few very good guides. > > Then there's always a number of books that you can read online, > download, print and use offline too: > > • How to Think Like a Computer Scientist — http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english2e/ > > An introductory book that teaches basic concepts of > programming, algorithms and Python. Highly recommended, > because of its excellent writing style and the large number > of topics it covers (recursion, exceptions, object oriented > programming, data structures [lists, stacks, queues, etc.]). > > • A Byte of Python — http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python > > An introductory book about Python, updated even to version > 3.0 of the language. Written by Swaroop C.H., a developer > in India who maintains the book for several versions of > Python. > > • Dive Into Python — http://diveintopython.org/ > > A Python book for experienced programmers. If you already > know how to program in other languages and you are looking > for a nice guide that will teach you 'pythonic' ways of > writing code, this is an excellent book. > > Even more guides for Python are listed at: > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers > > All of these sites look great. I have them all either captured on my firefox and hopefully correctly bookmarked. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 15:30:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131D9106566C for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnrp@gnrp.in-berlin.de) Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de (einhorn.in-berlin.de [192.109.42.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910168FC22 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:30:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: gnrp@gnrp.in-berlin.de X-Envelope-To: Received: from adolfputzen ([141.23.27.55]) (authenticated bits=0) by einhorn.in-berlin.de (8.13.6/8.13.6/Debian-1) with ESMTP id p03EwlZt010093 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:58:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:58:43 +0100 From: Julian Fagir To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110103155843.453147a0@adolfputzen> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/HsA=Y4Kr0pxN=4cH_=CMXnj"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang_at_IN-Berlin_e.V. on 192.109.42.8 Subject: Re: New to FreeBsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:30:47 -0000 --Sig_/HsA=Y4Kr0pxN=4cH_=CMXnj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > I am new to the Free BSD and i have a question on how to install a > packet.What i have to type to download a python editor?I cant find the ri= ght > packet name.Thank you very much. there are mainly two ways to install packages - via ports (i.e. you compile it yourself) or via pkg_add. The first is usually the preferred way, but you need to have the ports-collection installed. You can read about the packages system in the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports.html Regards, Julian --Sig_/HsA=Y4Kr0pxN=4cH_=CMXnj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk0h5CMACgkQc7h7cu1Hpp40xQCfaJEroeLopSxDDbnVBb4JIZ5n 3lgAn3XTSny57tbgm2ELYGidnolXB1Fl =nry7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/HsA=Y4Kr0pxN=4cH_=CMXnj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 15:33:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6BF106564A for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nrth.org) Received: from mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFC48FC13 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cpc11-nrte22-2-0-cust76.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com ([86.26.50.77] helo=viper.nrth.lab) by mho-01-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PZm8A-000OWc-9S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:15:30 +0000 Received: by viper.nrth.lab (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2A937CF01B; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:15:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 86.26.50.77 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/eqkuP80kxUAXq5M3WHqY0JB2RgDeu5ls= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:15:37 +0000 From: Pete To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110103151537.GA20880@viper.nrth.lab> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: New to FreeBsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:33:24 -0000 On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 04:16:13PM +0200, George George wrote: > I am new to the Free BSD and i have a question on how to install a > packet.What i have to type to download a python editor?I cant find the right > packet name.Thank you very much. Hello George, If you mean 'packages' then start reading here : http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/ports.html You'll want to look at chapter 4.4 specifically. I prefer ports as you can customise the creation of the program to include or omit certain capabilities. I'm not sure which editor you need but here's a page that lists a few : http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors As far as I know 'packets' are created using TCP/IP which is very basically how data is transferred across a computer network. Regards, Pete. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 16:08:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694C8106564A for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 10B298FC16 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23503 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2011 16:08:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=d1fFIsVzqG5jRV0g8bshL4qu/eavltixV+5y7Sg0gg/NildPixE/6D4ECDBcJxoBqTgUty2iBSccKQ4NrL1PRSDKGh3S9wiRcpNA0AT4LHF42ETtiCkMJsKzty0Elr4Dg7AU73mnVhuXsZWSOd+JhKurFGM3AWruHjU3APALyOY= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rogers.com; s=s1024; t=1294070905; bh=WVw2ZZ4OmnfSQZ6IU2+SSvIcZfeuNqwXoJb0SJevX+U=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=n6/asH/0mMXfwSMysCrEJlFPya+tB03BgcM4BCypgqDgy/34fPhL+iR7kA9YELLAGZe8iRNAMFVy2MnNg+Xe5AlmcNt96pV2oey7X3UkfYTbNZInM827SjX3dnOWBduv2XHBtoJPClJvlNCQ3VPzTBOO6apZG/sb9kMPxoJ7lcQ= Received: from napoleon (mike.jeays@99.224.61.141 with login) by smtp106.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jan 2011 08:08:22 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: N82WFx6swBBjwcHWPFR2CGt6udzA8RPrA.xm0enFFXaK2g-- X-YMail-OSG: gLGF5UQVM1mXv17S2tPE6ydOfqohxE.W47ab3bLRr.yPBTA kg_PCzHUxD4pPvrh4PSxqC0QsnRlVW8zlAQtvM7BQxIOv8v_AeUV6A2vix46 TWtU8Fd07OetRO7UN0ta1qao2A2HPPXcqWc1b9JuBHpJosfxRLULqZTideAA q9rZCJQOZFyWlp.kDNzp_KEvFNa10BaudSX.56qpAELiJhQ20EKMxMkIIXY8 wb77tUNL5xanedaTCdoQ0DiWwwmSpVOa9BvXxaBiK_tCmTD0knZWOYjcKUzP .okNJ.6jmoPfJpsJKBn6Mvh2krks4dW52IJsfbjlbgxFWn4yejoQw9Xbdns9 FGGikUoCpu4J0NETI1tT6KxUW_XjCMSFFVLz1GMptfhEV9Nq59lVD X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:08:21 -0500 From: Mike Jeays To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110103110821.06585010@napoleon> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: New to FreeBsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:08:26 -0000 On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:16:13 +0200 George George wrote: > I am new to the Free BSD and i have a question on how to install a > packet.What i have to type to download a python editor?I cant find the right > packet name.Thank you very much. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" pkg_add -r gedit will install the gedit package, for example. There are thousands of packages available. pkg_add -r idle should get you the python interactive development tool. (Note they are called packages, not packets. They are pre-compiled binaries all ready to be used.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 16:31:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7657E1065670 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405008FC18 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4D21F535.8010600@intersonic.se> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:11:33 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: PCIe SAS RAID controller for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:31:23 -0000 Hi, Could someone please recommend a 2- or 4-channel SAS PCI-e 4x RAID controller that works with 8-STABLE and is generally available? Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 16:42:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F38106566C for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from web@3dresearch.com) Received: from smtp.3dresearch.com (dorabella.3dresearch.com [66.167.251.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124358FC23 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (pool-96-236-232-63.pitbpa.east.verizon.net [96.236.232.63]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by vmail.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB1761C14 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from fracasso.3dresearch.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fracasso.3dresearch.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 79F515DB6 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:06:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:06:00 -0500 From: Janos Dohanics To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20110103110600.6212471d.web@3dresearch.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE amd 64 crash during shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:42:32 -0000 My system crashed during shutdown, so I tried to get a crash dump, but I don't seem to be able to do so: Dumping 1224 MB: (stops at 1177) Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 1, apic id = 01 fault virtual address = 0x100000000 fault code = supervisor read instruction, page not present instruction pointer: 0x20:0x100000000 uname -opr FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE amd64 I'd appreciate your advice... -- Janos Dohanics From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 19:45:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0C11065674 for ; 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Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.225.17 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:17:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:17:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nick Cooper To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: New to FreeBsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:45:02 -0000 make sure your ports are up to date #portsnap fetch #portsnap extract change into the port directory #cd /usr/ports you can search through ports using these command in /usr/ports #make search name=python or #make search key=python On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:16 AM, George George wrote: > I am new to the Free BSD and i have a question on how to install a > packet.What i have to type to download a python editor?I cant find the > right > packet name.Thank you very much. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 21:20:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA993106566B for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:20:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (odyssey.prod.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7935A8FC2F for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.181.6.201] (ip-66-181-6-201.cust.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.6.201]) by i2bnetworks.com (8.14.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id p03KwsbI050375 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Message-Id: From: Troy Beisigl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:58:54 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-SpacelinkPC: LL odyssey.i2bnetworks.com Subject: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:20:32 -0000 Hi All, We have been seeing a problem with FreeBSD 7.3 and up where the system will just hang when using a 9650SE-2LP raid card and 2 500G drives mirrored. The system will run for about a week and then the filesystem just hangs, causing the system to hang. We've looked through the logs and found nothing at all. We have changed the card and then the motherboard but the problem still exists. We have run this card with CentOS without fail in the same system configuration. If the card is not supported, can anyone recommend one that does work? Thanks, Troy Beisigl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 21:31:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DD8106566C for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425808FC0C for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:129:b803:9ef7:c292] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:129:b803:9ef7:c292]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p03LVsAE043855 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4D224046.4050307@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:31:50 -0500 From: Mike Tancsa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Beisigl References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:31:56 -0000 I have a number of these cards and they work very well for us. What version of the firmware are you using on the card ? I have this on a busy db server. But its RELENG8. twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0xb0000000-0xb1ffffff,0xb4000000-0xb4000fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci12 twa0: [ITHREAD] twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 ports, Firmware FE9X 3.08.00.016, BIOS BE9X 3.08.00.004 I have had good luck with Areca cards as well, but they start in 4 port models. But really, all should work just fine with this 3ware/LSI card ---Mike On 1/3/2011 3:58 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: > Hi All, > > We have been seeing a problem with FreeBSD 7.3 and up where the system > will just hang when using a 9650SE-2LP raid card and 2 500G drives > mirrored. The system will run for about a week and then the filesystem > just hangs, causing the system to hang. We've looked through the logs > and found nothing at all. We have changed the card and then the > motherboard but the problem still exists. We have run this card with > CentOS without fail in the same system configuration. > > If the card is not supported, can anyone recommend one that does work? > > Thanks, > > Troy Beisigl > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 23:08:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402771065670 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@daemon.gnix.co.uk) Received: from daemon.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7338FC0C for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from daemon.gnix.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.gnix.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p03Msu5M037692 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:54:56 GMT (envelope-from jpg@daemon.gnix.co.uk) Received: (from jpg@localhost) by daemon.gnix.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p03Msuew037691 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:54:56 GMT (envelope-from jpg) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 22:54:56 +0000 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://gnix.co.uk/jpg-pubkey.asc X-URL: http://gnix.co.uk/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:08:37 -0000 so can i just ask, is portmaster or another port upgrading tool recommended over portupgrade now because i'm going to be upgrading all my ports soon and in the 18 months i've been using FreeBSD i've always used portupgrade but sounds like it's best to change now. jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 23:37:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C241065672 for ; 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Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.193 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:37:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:37:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Jamie Paul Griffin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:37:12 -0000 On 3 January 2011 17:54, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > so can i just ask, is portmaster or another port upgrading tool recommend= ed over portupgrade now because i'm going to be upgrading all my ports soon= and =A0in the 18 months i've been using FreeBSD i've always used portupgra= de but sounds like it's best to change now. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0jamie Unless you particularly despise some aspect or feature of portupgrade, I can see little point in switching. Portmaster has the advantage of not requiring ruby or an external database, but the disadvan- tage of not having an equivalent of # portupgrade -Rf (at least last time I used it) --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 23:39:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E60106566B for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B48FC13 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so6230782eyf.13 for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:39:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.109.9 with SMTP id h9mr2091761ebp.38.1294097988975; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:39:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.148 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:39:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> From: Chris Brennan Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:39:28 -0500 Message-ID: To: "illoai@gmail.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:39:50 -0000 On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > On 3 January 2011 17:54, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > so can i just ask, is portmaster or another port upgrading tool > recommended over portupgrade now because i'm going to be upgrading all my > ports soon and in the 18 months i've been using FreeBSD i've always used > portupgrade but sounds like it's best to change now. > > > > jamie > > Unless you particularly despise some aspect > or feature of portupgrade, I can see little point > in switching. > > Portmaster has the advantage of not requiring > ruby or an external database, but the disadvan- > tage of not having an equivalent of > # portupgrade -Rf > (at least last time I used it) > > man portmaster reveals [-R] -f always rebuild ports (overrides -i) C- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 23:41:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3710A1065672 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C298FC1B for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (anonymizer2.torservers.net [174.36.199.200]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BDBD75A95 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:59:01 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:15:41 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110103231540.GB5302@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: use can't open tap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:41:53 -0000 You know St. Peter won't call my name, freebsd-questions! Recently I upgraded the base system (7.3-stable to 7.4-prerelease) and my qemu can not open tap device after that: === # ifconfig tap4 create # chmod o+rw /dev/tap4 # ls -l /dev/tap4 crw-rw-rw- 1 root qemu 0, 249 Jan 3 18:59 /dev/tap4 # :> /dev/tap4 # su - user $ id uid=XXXXX(user) gid=XXXXX(user) groups=XXXXX(user), ....,ZZZZ(qemu) $ :> /dev/tap4 -su: /dev/tap4: Operation not permitted === Is anything wrong here with the system? qemu is traced like this === 3580 qemu STRU struct stat {dev=117505792, ino=234, mode=crw--w---- , nlink=1, uid=10010, gid=4, rdev=234, atime=1294095695, stime=1294095695, ctime=1294095695, birthtime=-1, size=0, blksize=4096, blocks=0, flags=0x0 } 3580 qemu RET fstat 0 3580 qemu CALL clock_gettime(0x4,0xbfbfe5c0) 3580 qemu RET clock_gettime 0 3580 qemu CALL sigaction(SIGALRM,0xbfbfe47c,0) 3580 qemu RET sigaction 0 3580 qemu CALL setitimer(0,0xbfbfe494,0) 3580 qemu RET setitimer 0 3580 qemu CALL open(0xbfbfe2ec,O_RDWR,0) 3580 qemu NAMI "/dev/tap4" 3580 qemu RET open -1 errno 1 Operation not permitted 3580 qemu CALL write(0x2,0xbfbfcfc0,0x5a) 3580 qemu GIO fd 2 wrote 90 bytes "warning: could not open /dev/tap4 (Operation not permitted): no virtual network emulation " === and qemu runs well as a root user. sysctl looks like this: === $ sysctl -a | grep tap net.link.tap.debug: 1 net.link.tap.devfs_cloning: 1 net.link.tap.up_on_open: 1 net.link.tap.user_open: 1 debug.if_tap_debug: 1 hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1 hw.psm.tap_timeout: 125000 hw.psm.tap_threshold: 25 dev.atapci.0.%desc: VIA 8233A UDMA133 controller dev.atapci.0.%driver: atapci dev.atapci.0.%location: slot=17 function=1 handle=\_SB_.PCI0.IDE0 dev.atapci.0.%pnpinfo: vendor=0x1106 device=0x0571 subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x808c class=0x01018a dev.atapci.0.%parent: pci0 dev.ata.0.%parent: atapci0 dev.ata.1.%parent: atapci0 dev.atapicam.0.%desc: ATAPI CAM Attachment dev.atapicam.0.%driver: atapicam dev.atapicam.0.%parent: ata0 dev.atapicam.1.%desc: ATAPI CAM Attachment dev.atapicam.1.%driver: atapicam dev.atapicam.1.%parent: ata1 === Should I report this as a bug? Thank you. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 00:51:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA121065673 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:51:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08FF8FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 00:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so13533521fxm.13 for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uF82DfYcwQUjOjPoS2Rxn9+o02Vxs1YElTsd81fCpiU=; b=E8X400VgyP3BipEPrjtaoC1ILL9zz7e3Pu77eqJ+yhHO9KyqtdKMzerfAV9Rqt340j EzU/dqqhdsm7Rpp0s/c+lrAVfAlf69z1/2E8dzwgEt9XjowxufrpAhEzjxG9QtWAZKvr OwYGfRZ3ipRuJfgkPa2Q6Y+MyWQVDlZ8WRlA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CgxzGBg2sAuH9Hui8gEcH9EVTuKiTw21NavutZEZhI79MJlfnqygM6jhr4TGs0vEDX 342BueqZOTotMwFbLPxYq/wcLqm1UYx2GcwpH5TAM+DLRhYH3vxa2TL/cT0ah7lZpomv 5l7jGE2+AB93fRgYxop2l8k2v58xUWZeiX4p4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.79.13 with SMTP id n13mr61486fak.48.1294102308793; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.193 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:51:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 19:51:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: Chris Brennan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:51:50 -0000 On 3 January 2011 18:39, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:37 PM, illoai@gmail.com wrote= : >> >> On 3 January 2011 17:54, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: >> > so can i just ask, is portmaster or another port upgrading tool >> > recommended over portupgrade now because i'm going to be upgrading all= my >> > ports soon and =A0in the 18 months i've been using FreeBSD i've always= used >> > portupgrade but sounds like it's best to change now. >> > >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0jamie >> >> Unless you particularly despise some aspect >> or feature of portupgrade, I can see little point >> in switching. >> >> Portmaster has the advantage of not requiring >> ruby or an external database, but the disadvan- >> tage of not having an equivalent of >> # portupgrade -Rf >> (at least last time I used it) >> > > > man portmaster reveals > > =A0[-R] -f > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 always rebuild ports (overrides -i) > > No, the -R flag in portmaster tells it to not rebuild ports taht have already been built on this run (I believe from reading man portmaster). The -R flag in portupgrade rebuilds the ports on which the named port depends -R --upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the given packages as well. (When specified with -F, fetc= h recursively, including the brand new, uninstall= ed ports that an upgraded port requires) I don't see any equivalent functionality for portmaster, sadly. Example scenario: firefox is failing to start & keeps throwing weird gtk errors, even after rebuilding gtk & firefox. So you issue "portupgrade -Rf firefox\*". Well, it has fixed stuff in the dim & distant past, any way. --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 3 21:31:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4271065673 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FF48FC15 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 21:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so6441960ewy.13 for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.10.207 with SMTP id q15mr3334662ebq.38.1294090297667; Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:31:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.148 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:31:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:17 -0500 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:56:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , perryh@pluto.rain.com, Ian Smith , paul@fletchermoorland.co.uk Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 21:31:39 -0000 I was not around the computer yesterday to reply to these in a timely matter and replying to each one just got confusing since gmail appends all of my replies to the bottom of the thread and not after the person I replied to. I got the reply header to each person and went that route | Reply header, who said what. | > Their reply | | My Reply On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > No. I used the of=/dev/ad4 as described above. However, I think you've hit > the nail on the head on one aspect. I believe that 6.2 disk was originally > set up as "dangerously dedicated". It was so long ago and I had forgotten > all about it, but this does dovetail with what your are getting at. That may be so for you, but nothing less then FreeBSD8.1 or a Gentoo LiveCD has touched this drive. Gentoo only yo prove to myself that a sucessful ext4 filesystem could be created. GPT/GEOM wasn't used, I used all standard disk-creation methods as described in the gentoo handbook. I also used Gentoo's gpart utilities to independatly verify that any artifacts of GPT/GEOM were removed (which they were). > The machine that disk went into had been upgraded completely through the 7.x > series and on to 8.0-Release before it's disk went up in smoke(literally). I > was attempting to do a fresh 'minimal' install of 8.0-Release to the old 6.2 > disk pulled off a shelf prior to doing restore(s) of a dump from just the > day before. It was only done because it could be done immediately, and a > newer, larger, better replacement procured after the fact. This is actually something I fear in reinstalling my other FreeBSD system, which is currently 7.3, which has been upgraded successfully from 6.1. But ports has gotten out of hand and I'm rather tired of trying to fix each port, one at a time when there are prolly hundreds currently installed. > Exact copy of error from my notes here: > "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev! The creation of > filesystems will be aborted." Then pressing "OK" brings this: "Couldn't make > filesystems properly. Aborting." Yes, this is exactly the same error I get. While that is the same, I think there is an underlying issue here that is causing my issue that doesn't exactly pertain to 'dangerously dedicated'. > This from sysinstall and occurs after fdisk, labeling, at the point when > sysinstall then tries to write out the config to the disk and newfs. Yerp, sysinstalls pukes at newfs/swap creation, when it can't find /dev/ad4s1b (which is swap) > Or any other form of 'garbage'. I'd use the 8.1 LiveFS CD myself just as a > personal preference - but either approach should do the job. Well, the garbage I reported was because of a typo on my part. > Yes - I agree. Would also be nice to examine it afterward with a hex editor > to actually see *if* all writes were zero. Any 'ones' sprinkled in there, > especially in the region of the disk we are talking about would indicate > corruption. And my wild guess if this is the situation it may possibly > indicate some form of subtle hardware incompatibility most likely a clash of > firmwares, e.g. controller and disk(s). Some form of non-standard > controller implementation, especially wrt to its firmware being buggy. If someone provides the command for this, I will happily run it and see if the output is all zero's... > In the OEM world of the likes of HP, DELL, etc, when this happens a lot of > times they kludge together a work around driver that you can get from their > tech support. It masks the hardware/firmware problem in software, and is > almost always a Windows-centric thing. *shudder* that's all, just *shudder* > Bad thing here is the old: "but it worked in 7.x, only fails with 8.x...". > Whenever I see _that_ I think "developer involvement/smarter people than me > required...". Well, the irony here, the failing drive is *ALSO* 8.1, I can slap that back in and fire it up, it still boots and works, I just didn't want to take the risk of the drive's cheese sliding off it's cracker. > I use knode and gmane. I also know that (IIRC) you're supposed to reply by > email and CC: the list. There is a set of configs which allow one to > configure knode to do just this, however, the last two times I've tried it > knode crashed horribly. That was a couple of small revisions of KDE ago, so > I should soon revisit this myself and see if the bug has ever gotten any > love. GMail's (Google for Domains) threadding is a bit awkwards to get used to at first but works out rather nicely once you get used to it. On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > On /dev/ad4, oseek=0 zeroes sector 0, the MBR including DOS partition > (FreeBSD slice) table, so that would kill all the slice data, so sure, > ad4s1 won't exist. oseek=1 just zeroes an unused sector as we've seen. > What you _can_ do from that state is: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 > which will remove the first 4K of (what will be) slice 1, in case > there's a misconfigured bsdlabel there, for later. I'm not convinced > this is likely your problem, but it can't hurt before slice 1 exists (by > virtue of having an entry in the MBR, when it should show up in /dev) I'll give this a shot and let the list know what I find. > Do you mean you dd'd the memstick.img to the external USB drive? And > that booted ok? And sysinstall found it ok, as /dev/ad0a? Details! Haha! yes, I dd'd the memstick image to the external USB drive. It did boot just fine, but not ad /dev/ad0a, it booted the drive as /dev/da0a. Which is a 1gb partition, the other 59gb remained unused/unsliced. I don't have and media where I could write a 1GB image to w/o wasting a DVD and just couldn't justify that loss of space lol. > Given you've shown previously that s1 starts at sector 63, so will: > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 Fixit# sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 sysctl kern.geom.debugflags: 0 -> 16 Fixit# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 8+0 Records in 8+0 records out 4096 bytes transferred in 0.431880 secs (9484 bytes/sec) > Getting yours fine; that was re my reply to Mike's message. Understood. > Of course that's not impossible, but you did say you'd installed some > linux on it ok? Clutching at straws, is there anything in your BIOS > regarding different SATA modes you can play with? (No SATA disks here) Yes, as I said in Mike's reply above, I did write a simple ext4 partition to the drive just to prove to myself that it could be done (and it worked). No, I've checked and rechecked, this laptop's BIOS menu is very limited in detail and changable options. But nothing about SATA modes. > Something else you could try is W)riting the slice table + MBR out from > the fdisk menu, then quit sysinstall and reboot. You can do the same > after labelling but before newfs'ing .. not generally recommended, but > safe enough on a blank disk. >From the FDISK Partition Editor in sysinstall, I don't see a means to actually write the slice to disk, immediatly from that menu. Same for the slice editor. > If you do the latter, you'll have to reenter your mount points later, so > make a note of the order and size of partitions that you specified. See above :P > Hopefully somebody else has a take on all this, I'm out of ideas .. No worries, I appreciate yours and everyone elses help. On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > This can happen if you've had it partitioned using GPT at some point - > in that case you need to use dd to zero the first _and_ last sectors of > the disk. So this is two dd operations, one for the first 63 bytes and one for the last 63 bytes? Can you ellaborate a little? dd's more advanced operations are still new to me :D On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > See my post later in the thread: this most likely has nothing to do > with the partition layout but the fact that FreeBSD is finding an old > partition scheme. Later in the thread suggests a post after this one, this is none, or are you referring to another thread? If so, which one? On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > Hmm, should we bet against a gentoo install using GPT these days? gpart is part of the gentoo LiveCD, I didn't use it to create any partitions, just to make sure fbsd deleted anything that might have been present. I used cfdisk to slice the drive and mkfs.ext4 and mkswap to create and write the partitions. > Finding out about the actual disk layout in gpt(8), gpart(8) etc proving > fruitless and finding nothing in Handbook, FAQ or wiki, I resorted to > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table for hopefully correct > information. I hadn't even known that sectors 1-33 were used for the > GPT (making Mike's zeroing of sector 1 sensible even on sliced disks), > nor that the last 33 sectors were for its backup table, thanks. So: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da4 seek=N > where N is the known total number of sectors minus 34, should do it? I think you mean ad4 and not da4 here .... si that's (ST)-34? 1465149168-34? I'm just trying to make sure I understand what you want me to do here. > If not, we can't rule out Mike's concerns about BIOS incompatibility > or such, but this sure sounds like the next thing Chris should try. A BIOS incompatibility has been in the back of my mind. But given that the laptop is of a recently modern make, switching to a larger hard-drive shouldn't be this big of an issue. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 01:25:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54822106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@daemon.gnix.co.uk) Received: from daemon.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E808FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from daemon.gnix.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.gnix.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p041Ueop039419 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:30:41 GMT (envelope-from jpg@daemon.gnix.co.uk) Received: (from jpg@localhost) by daemon.gnix.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p041UenK039418 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:30:40 GMT (envelope-from jpg) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 01:30:40 +0000 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110104013040.GA39411@daemon.gnix.co.uk> References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://gnix.co.uk/jpg-pubkey.asc X-URL: http://gnix.co.uk/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 01:25:32 -0000 On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 07:51:48PM -0500, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > No, the -R flag in portmaster tells it to not rebuild > ports taht have already been built on this run (I > believe from reading man portmaster). The -R > flag in portupgrade rebuilds the ports on which > the named port depends Indeed, this -R option is useful. Up-to-now i've not used anything else other than portupgrade but i'll have a look over the man pages of portmaster, etc.; i'll probably continue to use portupgrade for a while though. jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 04:23:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C3F106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (odyssey.prod.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201AE8FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (dev.csst.net [66.181.0.13]) by i2bnetworks.com (8.14.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id p044Nc0A003956; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:23:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AfterLogic WebMail Pro PHP X-Originating-IP: 66.181.2.158 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <499c934.4dfb66dee8b1e43b31ce7762775a1af7@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> From: "Troy Beisigl" To: "Mike Tancsa" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 18:14:46 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-SpacelinkPC: LL odyssey.i2bnetworks.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:23:40 -0000 Hi Mike, We are running the latest firmware. We upgraded to it in case this was the i= ssue. As you can see from the log entry below, it shows the file system was = not shut down cleanly because it was locked and had to be powered off. We ar= e using Intel motherboards, so maybe something with FreeBSD and this card wi= th the Intel motherboard? I know that this card works just fine with this bo= ard on CentOS, so... Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> p= ort 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xd0000000-0xd1ffffff,0xd2020000-0xd2020fff irq 16 at = device 0.0 on pci1 Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: [ITHREAD] Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: WARNING: (0x04: 0x0008): Unclean shutdow= n detected: unit=3D0 Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details= :: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 ports, Firmware FE9X 4.10.00.007, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.0= 02 Troy Beisigl >---- Original Message ---- >From: Mike Tancsa >To: "Troy Beisigl" >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011, 13:32 PM >Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system > >I have a number of these cards and they work very well for us. What >version of the firmware are you using on the card ? > >I have this on a busy db server. But its RELENG8. > >twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0x1000-0x10ff mem >0xb0000000-0xb1ffffff,0xb4000000-0xb4000fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci12 >twa0: [ITHREAD] >twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 >ports, Firmware FE9X 3.08.00.016, BIOS BE9X 3.08.00.004 > >I have had good luck with Areca cards as well, but they start in 4 port >models. But really, all should work just fine with this 3ware/LSI card > >=09---Mike > > > > >On 1/3/2011 3:58 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> We have been seeing a problem with FreeBSD 7.3 and up where the system >> will just hang when using a 9650SE-2LP raid card and 2 500G drives >> mirrored. The system will run for about a week and then the filesystem >> just hangs, causing the system to hang. We've looked through the logs >> and found nothing at all. We have changed the card and then the >> motherboard but the problem still exists. We have run this card with >> CentOS without fail in the same system configuration. >> >> If the card is not supported, can anyone recommend one that does work? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Troy Beisigl >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 04:34:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4395A106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joji@eskimo.com) Received: from ultra7.eskimo.com (ultra7.eskimo.com [204.122.16.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C308FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shell.eskimo.com (root@shell.eskimo.com [204.122.16.72]) by ultra7.eskimo.com (8.14.0/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p044Nci5029349; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:23:38 -0800 Received: from shell.eskimo.com (joji@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p044NeRv008439; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:23:40 -0800 Received: (from joji@localhost) by shell.eskimo.com (8.14.3/8.12.10/Submit) id p044NdL6008404; Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:23:39 -0800 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:23:38 -0800 From: Joseph Olatt To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20110104042338.GA29930@shell.eskimo.com> References: <20101226170930.GA68817@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101226170930.GA68817@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: randomising tracks: scripting question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:34:16 -0000 On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 05:09:30PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > > I generally play my tracks of an album like so: > > for track in $(cat trombone_shorty-backatown.m3u); do > mplayer $track > done > > They then play in the correct order. > > How would I go about randomising the order of play using > sh (preferably) or perl? > > Sorry for the OT posting but I thought a brainteaser might clear the > fog caused by excessive Xmas indulgence ;) > > > Regards, > > -- > > Frank > > Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > A little while back I wrote a perl script to randomly pick mp3, ogg, flac files from any directory specified as arg 1 and play them using mplayer. I categorize my genres by directory and with this perl script I can randomly play songs from any directory. If the script is invoked without any arguments, then it will play songs from the default hard-coded directory defined by $SONG_DIR. Don't know if this would be useful to you (or someone else). #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; my $SONG_DIR = "/home/joji/songs/good"; if ($#ARGV == 0) { $SONG_DIR = $ARGV[0]; } my %played = (); my $rand; my $dh; my @song_list; opendir($dh, $SONG_DIR); @song_list = readdir($dh); closedir($dh); my $count = $#song_list; # Perl counts from zero. If there is one item, Perl will say 0. # So to get the real count, we have to increment by 1. $count++; chdir($SONG_DIR); while ((keys %played) < $count) { while (1) { $rand = int(rand($count)); if (! $played{$rand}) { $played{$rand} = 1; last; } if ((keys %played) >= $count) { last; } } if ($song_list[$rand] eq "." || $song_list[$rand] eq "..") { ; } else { print "Playing song # " . $rand . " [" . $song_list[$rand] . "]\n"; `mplayer \"$song_list[$rand]\"`; } } exit(0); From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 04:49:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C377E106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6440E8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:129:b803:9ef7:c292] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:129:b803:9ef7:c292]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p044nbI6090127 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Jan 2011 23:49:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4D22A6DD.9030009@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 23:49:33 -0500 From: Mike Tancsa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Beisigl References: <499c934.4dfb66dee8b1e43b31ce7762775a1af7@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> In-Reply-To: <499c934.4dfb66dee8b1e43b31ce7762775a1af7@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:49:40 -0000 On 1/3/2011 9:14 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: > Hi Mike, > > We are running the latest firmware. We upgraded to it in case this was the issue. As you can see from the log entry below, it shows the file system was not shut down cleanly because it was locked and had to be powered off. We are using Intel motherboards, so maybe something with FreeBSD and this card with the Intel motherboard? I know that this card works just fine with this board on CentOS, so... > When it locks up, are you sure its the disk that locks up ? From the console, if you do a CTRL+T, what does it show its blocking on ? Are you able to build a debug kernel to see where things are stuck ? ---Mike > Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xd0000000-0xd1ffffff,0xd2020000-0xd2020fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: [ITHREAD] > Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: WARNING: (0x04: 0x0008): Unclean shutdown detected: unit=0 > Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 ports, Firmware FE9X 4.10.00.007, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.002 > > Troy Beisigl > > >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: Mike Tancsa >> To: "Troy Beisigl" >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011, 13:32 PM >> Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system >> >> I have a number of these cards and they work very well for us. What >> version of the firmware are you using on the card ? >> >> I have this on a busy db server. But its RELENG8. >> >> twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0x1000-0x10ff mem >> 0xb0000000-0xb1ffffff,0xb4000000-0xb4000fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci12 >> twa0: [ITHREAD] >> twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 >> ports, Firmware FE9X 3.08.00.016, BIOS BE9X 3.08.00.004 >> >> I have had good luck with Areca cards as well, but they start in 4 port >> models. But really, all should work just fine with this 3ware/LSI card >> >> ---Mike >> >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2011 3:58 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> We have been seeing a problem with FreeBSD 7.3 and up where the system >>> will just hang when using a 9650SE-2LP raid card and 2 500G drives >>> mirrored. The system will run for about a week and then the filesystem >>> just hangs, causing the system to hang. We've looked through the logs >>> and found nothing at all. We have changed the card and then the >>> motherboard but the problem still exists. We have run this card with >>> CentOS without fail in the same system configuration. >>> >>> If the card is not supported, can anyone recommend one that does work? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Troy Beisigl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 08:32:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DF5106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446BB8FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p048WEdG072448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:32:14 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p048WEdG072448 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294129935; bh=x1KDgn2EDmfBDvTft28SeyMvYg3wCEkndDkwwZATBHk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D22DB01.4080600@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T ue,=2004=20Jan=202011=2008:32:01=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20"illoai@gmail.com"=20|CC:=20Chris=20Bre nnan=20,=20=0D=0A=20Jamie=20Paul=20Griffin=2 0,=0D=0A=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject :=20Re:=20Portupgrade=20status|References:=20<14212432ba707fc5f9fb c75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net>=09<20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore>= 09 =09<86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>=09<4D186D11.1030708@infraca ninophile.co.uk>=09=09<20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk>=09=09=20|In-Reply-To:=20 |X-E nigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20 multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"app lication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig43C AB6343A2DDB60CC5EBC0E"; b=lzQufxPpqHRP7hYb/jCR2evBi8iwoXGD5gXZHQsE1aNoOH2K3TS/kUw1hXkdnp2fZ e8D+k7GfDjv+Kj8xbmHBOk0E3Qpqw8rVQNw8nGvzubVm9sxzMq0IEr1NEjKvfysr9T dHsSc/dvpTnkl8dl0Faa+uGoY9RhEUEj1DVuJFmI= Message-ID: <4D22DB01.4080600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:32:01 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "illoai@gmail.com" References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig43CAB6343A2DDB60CC5EBC0E" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jamie Paul Griffin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chris Brennan Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:32:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig43CAB6343A2DDB60CC5EBC0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/01/2011 00:51, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > No, the -R flag in portmaster tells it to not rebuild > ports taht have already been built on this run (I > believe from reading man portmaster). The -R > flag in portupgrade rebuilds the ports on which > the named port depends > -R > --upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the given > packages as well. (When specified with -F, = fetch > recursively, including the brand new, unins= talled > ports that an upgraded port requires) >=20 > I don't see any equivalent functionality for portmaster, > sadly. This is actually portmaster's default behaviour. So: portupgrade -R foo/bar is equivalent to portmaster foo/bar portupgrade -fRr foo/bar is equivalent to portmaster -fr foo/bar There isn't actually a way to do the equivalent of portupgrade foo/bar -- that is, only update the specifically named port, without updating any dependencies as well. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig43CAB6343A2DDB60CC5EBC0E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0i2w4ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxR4wCZAfYD5OKOrbrzKxaud27VY5P6 Q58An03qe1w5Qv42znecth3sTVcG1yAo =Ga+E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig43CAB6343A2DDB60CC5EBC0E-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 08:56:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328CB106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:56:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D88FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p048uaHW058306; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:56:37 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:56:35 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Chris Brennan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:56:51 -0000 On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:17 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: [.. trimming ccs, selectively quoting and de-gmailing a bit ..] > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Michael Powell > wrote: > > No. I used the of=/dev/ad4 as described above. However, I think you've hit > > the nail on the head on one aspect. I believe that 6.2 disk was originally > > set up as "dangerously dedicated". It was so long ago and I had forgotten > > all about it, but this does dovetail with what your are getting at. > > That may be so for you, but nothing less then FreeBSD8.1 or a Gentoo > LiveCD has touched this drive. Gentoo only yo prove to myself that a > sucessful ext4 filesystem could be created. GPT/GEOM wasn't used, I > used all standard disk-creation methods as described in the gentoo > handbook. I also used Gentoo's gpart utilities to independatly verify > that any artifacts of GPT/GEOM were removed (which they were). Ok. It may still be useful to see what if anything remains in the areas that GPT uses .. see below. > > was attempting to do a fresh 'minimal' install of 8.0-Release to the old 6.2 > > disk pulled off a shelf prior to doing restore(s) of a dump from just the > > day before. It was only done because it could be done immediately, and a > > newer, larger, better replacement procured after the fact. > > This is actually something I fear in reinstalling my other FreeBSD > system, which is currently 7.3, which has been upgraded successfully > from 6.1. But ports has gotten out of hand and I'm rather tired of > trying to fix each port, one at a time when there are prolly hundreds > currently installed. For sure. I'm going to wait till 7.4-RELEASE, then reinstall all of the ports on my now 7.4-PRERELEASE system from the set of ports (and esp. packages) resulting from the ports freeze .. that way there's much less chance of inconsistencies and mangled dependencies that often occur when trying to upgrade a lot of ports/packages installed some time ago .. > > Exact copy of error from my notes here: > > > "Unable to find device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev! The creation of > > filesystems will be aborted." Then pressing "OK" brings this: "Couldn't make > > filesystems properly. Aborting." > > Yes, this is exactly the same error I get. While that is the same, I > think there is an underlying issue here that is causing my issue that > doesn't exactly pertain to 'dangerously dedicated'. Sure. > > This from sysinstall and occurs after fdisk, labeling, at the point when > > sysinstall then tries to write out the config to the disk and newfs. > > Yerp, sysinstalls pukes at newfs/swap creation, when it can't find > /dev/ad4s1b (which is swap) > > > Or any other form of 'garbage'. I'd use the 8.1 LiveFS CD myself just as a > > personal preference - but either approach should do the job. > > Well, the garbage I reported was because of a typo on my part. > > > Yes - I agree. Would also be nice to examine it afterward with a hex editor > > to actually see *if* all writes were zero. Any 'ones' sprinkled in there, > > especially in the region of the disk we are talking about would indicate > > corruption. And my wild guess if this is the situation it may possibly > > indicate some form of subtle hardware incompatibility most likely a clash of > > firmwares, e.g. controller and disk(s). Some form of non-standard > > controller implementation, especially wrt to its firmware being buggy. > > If someone provides the command for this, I will happily run it and > see if the output is all zero's... Ok, let's eg look at the first and last 'tracks' of 63 sectors. If you have somewhere you can copy these to (like a USB stick) then you can do that and examine them on another box with hexdump(1) | less(1). If not, as they're expected to be mostly zeroes, you can do it directly: dd if=/dev/ad4 count=71 | hd | less Not sure if Fixit provides hd &/or less, though they appear in /usr/bin? That shows you the boot sector ie MBR, plus anything in sectors 1-62, plus the first 4KB of what will be ad4s1, ie the s1 boot blocks (if they've been ever written there yet and haven't been since cleared) According to your earlier report, your disk has: cylinders=1453521 heads=16 sectors/tracks=63 (1008 blks/cyl) and using that (standard) geometry, reformatted a bit: Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 63 1465149105 1465149167 ad4s1 8 freebsd 165 Check: 1453521 * 16 * 63 = 1465149168 sectors, numbered 0..1465149167 So since iseek=0 starts at sector 0, then iseek=1465149167 starts at the last sector, right? So: dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149104 count=63 | hd shows the last 63 sectors (last track) of the drive. If this isn't all zeroes (which is worth knowing, and recording) then make it so with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149104 count=63 which is ok for your blank disk, but for a disk in use you should only zero the last 33 sectors as (way) below; there may be [meta]data before. > > In the OEM world of the likes of HP, DELL, etc, when this happens a lot of > > times they kludge together a work around driver that you can get from their > > tech support. It masks the hardware/firmware problem in software, and is > > almost always a Windows-centric thing. > > *shudder* that's all, just *shudder* There were also (at least used to be) reports of troubles with some SATA cables, and as you've replaced your HD it might be worth checking your cable attachments are good, nothing twisted or under sideways pressure? > > Bad thing here is the old: "but it worked in 7.x, only fails with 8.x...". > > Whenever I see _that_ I think "developer involvement/smarter people than me > > required...". I have exactly that problem resuming from suspend on my Thinkpad T23 on all 8.x, where it worked fine from 6.1 through 7.4-PRERELEASE. So far the smarter people are saying nothing; maybe I've offended some gods? > Well, the irony here, the failing drive is *ALSO* 8.1, I can slap > that back in and fire it up, it still boots and works, I just didn't > want to take the risk of the drive's cheese sliding off it's cracker. How hard is it to replace the SATA cable in these? I haven't time to hunt now, but recall a swathe of messages to -stable a couple of years ago about SATA problems that were entirely solved by replacing cables. [..] > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > On /dev/ad4, oseek=0 zeroes sector 0, the MBR including DOS partition > > (FreeBSD slice) table, so that would kill all the slice data, so sure, > > ad4s1 won't exist. oseek=1 just zeroes an unused sector as we've seen. > > > What you _can_ do from that state is: > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 > > > which will remove the first 4K of (what will be) slice 1, in case > > there's a misconfigured bsdlabel there, for later. I'm not convinced > > this is likely your problem, but it can't hurt before slice 1 exists (by > > virtue of having an entry in the MBR, when it should show up in /dev) > > I'll give this a shot and let the list know what I find. Again, getting a copy of what's there before zeroing may be helpful. > > Do you mean you dd'd the memstick.img to the external USB drive? And > > that booted ok? And sysinstall found it ok, as /dev/ad0a? Details! > > Haha! yes, I dd'd the memstick image to the external USB drive. It did boot > just fine, but not ad /dev/ad0a, it booted the drive as /dev/da0a. Which is > a 1gb partition, the other 59gb remained unused/unsliced. I don't have and > media where I could write a 1GB image to w/o wasting a DVD and just couldn't > justify that loss of space lol. Sorry, typo: /dev/da0a. Yes the images are 'hybrid' unsliced disks. If you check with fdisk da0 you'll see it appears as slice 4, of about 24MB. The boot sector is /boot/boot1 with a munged MBR entry pointing to itself (ie slice s4 starts at sector 0), sectors 1-7 are /boot/boot2, with an also munged bsdlabel in sector 1. From an 8.1-R memstick.img: t23% fdisk -s da0 /dev/da0: 967 cyl 64 hd 32 sec Part Start Size Type Flags 4: 0 50000 0xa5 0x80 t23% bsdlabel da0c # (da0a whinges about size error) # /dev/da0c: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 1852024 16 unused 0 0 c: 1852040 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit You should be able to find 1GB USB sticks for close to free these days; longer term sysinstall needs to be taught to boot/use sliced USB media. > > Given you've shown previously that s1 starts at sector 63, so will: > > > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 > > Fixit# sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > sysctl kern.geom.debugflags: 0 -> 16 > Fixit# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=63 count=8 > 8+0 Records in > 8+0 records out > 4096 bytes transferred in 0.431880 secs (9484 bytes/sec) Ok, so 'dd if=dev/ad4 iseek=63 count=8 | hd' should confirm it's all zeroes (re Mike's concern about confirming that writes are not being mangled). I'm not sure Fixit has hd though, and can't boot one just now. I think there's enough free space on the image to write a few megs to /dev/da0, I recall saving a dmesg and sysctl -a there once so I could view it on another box, though df already shows it as 'overfull': /dev/da0a 923679 860995 -11210 101% /mnt > > Of course that's not impossible, but you did say you'd installed some > > linux on it ok? Clutching at straws, is there anything in your BIOS > > regarding different SATA modes you can play with? (No SATA disks here) > > Yes, as I said in Mike's reply above, I did write a simple ext4 partition > to the drive just to prove to myself that it could be done (and it worked). > No, I've checked and rechecked, this laptop's BIOS menu is very limited in > detail and changable options. But nothing about SATA modes. Ok. > > Something else you could try is W)riting the slice table + MBR out from > > the fdisk menu, then quit sysinstall and reboot. You can do the same > > after labelling but before newfs'ing .. not generally recommended, but > > safe enough on a blank disk. > > From the FDISK Partition Editor in sysinstall, I don't see a means to > actually write the slice to disk, immediatly from that menu. Same for the > slice editor. > > > If you do the latter, you'll have to reenter your mount points later, so > > make a note of the order and size of partitions that you specified. > > See above :P Hmm, certainly still in 7.4-PRE there's a 'W' menu option in both fdisk and label screens. It might still work, but be hidden in 8.2? [Bruce?] > > Hopefully somebody else has a take on all this, I'm out of ideas .. > > No worries, I appreciate yours and everyone elses help. Only helpful when it actually helps :) > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > > This can happen if you've had it partitioned using GPT at some point - > > in that case you need to use dd to zero the first _and_ last sectors of > > the disk. > > So this is two dd operations, one for the first 63 bytes and one for the > last 63 bytes? Can you ellaborate a little? dd's more advanced operations > are still new to me :D Not bytes but sectors, and the right number seems to be 33. See below. > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Bruce Cran wrote: > > See my post later in the thread: this most likely has nothing to do > > with the partition layout but the fact that FreeBSD is finding an old > > partition scheme. > > Later in the thread suggests a post after this one, this is none, or > are you referring to another thread? If so, which one? :) The message you quoted immediately before this one, above. > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > Hmm, should we bet against a gentoo install using GPT these days? > > gpart is part of the gentoo LiveCD, I didn't use it to create any > partitions, just to make sure fbsd deleted anything that might have > been present. I used cfdisk to slice the drive and mkfs.ext4 and > mkswap to create and write the partitions. Ok, but you still should check the last track of the disk for cruft. > > Finding out about the actual disk layout in gpt(8), gpart(8) etc proving > > fruitless and finding nothing in Handbook, FAQ or wiki, I resorted to > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table for hopefully correct > > information. I hadn't even known that sectors 1-33 were used for the > > GPT (making Mike's zeroing of sector 1 sensible even on sliced disks), > > nor that the last 33 sectors were for its backup table, thanks. So: > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da4 seek=N > > > where N is the known total number of sectors minus 34, should do it? > > I think you mean ad4 and not da4 here .... si that's (ST)-34? > 1465149168-34? I'm just trying to make sure I understand what you want me > to do here. Actually, double checking the maths, 1465149168 - 34 = 1465149134 but that actually gets you the last 34 sectors (since size-1 gets the last 1 sector) so I should have said size - 33 = 1465149135. Add count=33 to be sure. After which, dd it back to check it's all zeroes: dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149135 count=33 | hd As my brief late followup to that message pointed out, I made a TERRIBLE mistake there, saying skip instead of seek. I see you incorporated that correction, phew. Just to point out how bad a slip it was, what it'd do using skip is read - and discard - ~700GB of zeroes from the input, then zero the entire disk! My new years' resolution is to 'skip using skip' and to only ever use the more explicit iseek and oseek from now on! "Careful with that axe, Eugene!" -- Pink Floyd > > If not, we can't rule out Mike's concerns about BIOS incompatibility > > or such, but this sure sounds like the next thing Chris should try. > > A BIOS incompatibility has been in the back of my mind. But given > that the laptop is of a recently modern make, switching to a larger > hard-drive shouldn't be this big of an issue. Indeed it shouldn't. Good luck, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 08:57:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D29106566B for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:57:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFF18FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [199.48.147.42]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2DCF5A83 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 11:39:59 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 11:57:35 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110104085734.GC5302@external.screwed.box> References: <20101226170930.GA68817@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20110104042338.GA29930@shell.eskimo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110104042338.GA29930@shell.eskimo.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: randomising tracks: scripting question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 08:57:58 -0000 You know St. Peter won't call my name, freebsd-questions! 2011/01/03 20:23:38 -0800 Joseph Olatt => To Frank Shute : JO> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 05:09:30PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: JO> > JO> > I generally play my tracks of an album like so: JO> > JO> > for track in $(cat trombone_shorty-backatown.m3u); do JO> > mplayer $track JO> > done JO> > JO> > They then play in the correct order. JO> > JO> > How would I go about randomising the order of play using JO> > sh (preferably) or perl? I have several tens of thousands of MIDI files from 90s. They are too many for 'random play' feature of the Timidity++ which is used with 'eawpats', the GUS patches. Here is my bash script to play them in random order: === #!/usr/local/bin/bash IFS=' ' fns=(`find ~/mid/ -iname '*.mid'`) while :; do timidity -a -OdS -in -j -t 1251 -E t -p a -R 500 -EFreverb=127 -EFns=4 ${fns[$((${#fns[@]}*$RANDOM/32767))]} done === Of course I miss the 'Previous track' functionality. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 10:51:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F185A1065673 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fernando.apesteguia@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88268FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so14456931iwn.13 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:51:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kfq+FgA4F+3dJUwQ2KaJNyfuDFuMdJUZMWvkLr3mgSY=; b=JdF1CqA6O6t27GXayZN2JzDjzJuPv8mVB5u61cj1Hvz9aAPPZvPrVNGbZrv6eNj2C3 Ag4G2BDwmmMEWQFFuzzRM6Sj50YdMIw/CD1EfRNzJvKo7axLfp5B3fha/FMfWEGTtHko HpB3K1T0QFe/BzA1ukTWc/ftsmGsEjRod3q44= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rK/UbMR+WFqhzEbgvC2NRLriWY7e4TQwJ2ioETG/BlYocS1U5zWFlujYZWfzzEisjl 3QR5VHlZD4KAky1fRfd2YV/blMLIyICIBg7s6gRY9gSILJMm6m/tWMJhOfbS81mIB2iZ MA0M6Cy6/nCmpVzHhBRFFg/BRXgNRE0XFjSVk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.167.131 with SMTP id s3mr22184559icy.288.1294138314517; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.25.77 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:51:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110103110600.6212471d.web@3dresearch.com> References: <20110103110600.6212471d.web@3dresearch.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 11:51:54 +0100 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Janos Dohanics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE amd 64 crash during shutdown X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:51:56 -0000 On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Janos Dohanics wrote: > My system crashed during shutdown, so I tried to get a crash dump, but > I don't seem to be able to do so: > > Dumping 1224 MB: (stops at 1177) > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > cpuid =3D 1, apic id =3D 01 > fault virtual address =3D 0x100000000 > fault code =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=3D supervisor read instruction, page n= ot present > instruction pointer: 0x20:0x100000000 > > uname -opr > FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE amd64 > > I'd appreciate your advice... Just a wild guess: Does your system crash if it is booted with ACPI disable= d? And is your swap partition big enough to create the dump? > > -- > Janos Dohanics > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 10:32:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632BD106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smathias1972@yahoo.com) Received: from web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.103]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5CA68FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42854 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2011 10:32:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294137120; bh=Vc+WT4A94zn4GUMXm2PWm2MzBqqiJg7UJbcjWLKdnKA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=neFo84DBWOJjCMgoEsq9akMyu3bxAPYqlnsKVYiYyd8fdsdU4kX9mfgVn17euJLOJKfqjIT72tp6YraAWP4FhZvY1eBP7/mgosrrgTtjxr0p75jOrM/mAOo3424MQ7Cjkpu6xmFNdRdDAGQ158tPvy0oXQwbhwn5xOnDJRaDUDg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oWuLnC7VWe0Fyf/Zn8abAFmSK4peNVHMQVNINtKOBrDkfaamE2yeQTkvaZHrGq14o1faxgDcm22+F0wtfEZ4gBq1Aty6hEH7WSt4vUIaoAqcxzozYwcmgewsFoyDbEwBftsFiJru9uGu9xIAoR/gBXC63HAdhRxb673xPFGgvPQ=; Message-ID: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 24Nk.gAVM1n5MXTTFZsV18rnBDLKd8pdQfK4lRb1yo6uVsY 50glTw2B7llrhaqxafbu0wdrZyiaE.I9gYHeJyUyv7_LHejrHnYdvP_5iyHj wfh5a3Dbgntyq0dJ2gHVLgJJTJwiFu6iuaR37N4EYF3146rjOzqCPjCOLeBS 0LqlZrrYP4Fg7dRy7QKNIS0e_fvCf8x6MmoP1DA-- Received: from [94.21.195.28] by web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 02:32:00 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 02:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: S Mathias To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:17:43 +0000 Subject: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:32:01 -0000 cat asdf.txt bla-bla bla-bla bla[XYZ] importantthing another important thing [/XYZ] bla-bla bla-bla [XYZ] yet another thing hello! [/XYZ] bla-bla etc. $ SOMEPERLMAGIC asdf.txt > output.txt $ cat output.txt importantthing another important thing yet another thing hello! how can i sovle this question? what is SOMEPERLMAGIC? are there any perl gurus, that have a little spare time? Thank you! :\ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 12:22:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A24106566B for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0808FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 12:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (anonymizer6.torservers.net [174.36.199.203]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B63D5A83 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:04:58 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:22:37 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110104122236.GE5302@external.screwed.box> References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:22:53 -0000 You know St. Peter won't call my name, freebsd-questions! 2011/01/04 02:32:00 -0800 S Mathias => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : $ perl -Mstrict -nwe 'print unless m/bla|XYZ/;' < asdf.txt 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 13:06:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359C7106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:06:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF29B8FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:06:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so14080242wwf.31 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 05:06:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yVV1B7l9W6XqqNGBIvGNz8weirikRPsLeDPISX7J1Fo=; b=gSriuGTijaALscX1ABF2u/nZsbb5usYB9DX8RCReYNTsQI+/hzAdwTydBj4KjA+oJz IDr5Tj4OnhURTicsyAZPJRGn2ct6npO6WnqIox+fgygNhzmug6qZRT263wykRsqGyIn+ Pz6KMjI/B0RpNNVYklycb1UDDvft/nl63XHtQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=HCxoymFSpOJdhcKre238e9UKqj3dRpCCTj4Tgkh1OP888GlFn0UHAisaLp1wVfGPnN hznCRuW/rNwjH8DmaNu3Hxt2yhlAg0Ki8WqrNPLWr7YRBSfdddkNVsynGp1yvHHbk0q2 OojeMbYCKdhUanNK21ZzsHjV9nj6uuFaxYEvQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.51.135 with SMTP id b7mr25289787wec.29.1294146368033; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 05:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.72.198 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 05:06:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:06:07 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: S Mathias Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:06:10 -0000 On 4 January 2011 10:32, S Mathias wrote: > cat asdf.txt > bla-bla > bla-bla > bla[XYZ] > importantthing > another important thing > [/XYZ] > bla-bla > bla-bla > [XYZ] > yet another thing > hello! > [/XYZ] > bla-bla > etc. > $ SOMEPERLMAGIC asdf.txt > output.txt > $ cat output.txt > importantthing > another important thing > yet another thing > hello! > > > how can i sovle this question? what is SOMEPERLMAGIC? are there any perl > gurus, that have a little spare time? > > Thank you! :\ > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > doesnt need to be perl either cat asdf.txt | awk 'BEGIN {a=0} { if ( $0 ~ /\[XYZ\]/ ) a=1; if ( $0 ~ /\[\/XYZ\]/ ) a=0; if ( a == 1) print $0}' or something close to it From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 13:11:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F2E106566B for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:11:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from c.mail.ru.ac.za (c.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150458FC26 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:11:47 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=dcG/RmCovLqgoLHd9qZRS/KUjS0AkeIkCAW3R4juhF1pdi59apaTsGFObQqc6ETRB9S26vyLZMzqB+SeT+huXM7kLn1+IqWGfLqaapIYhLLkRzm1uR/+HR5nhkTEPfL6; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:52656) by c.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69-patched (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Pa6fw-0006gw-I7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:11:44 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:11:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: c.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:3) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:11:48 -0000 On Tuesday 04 January 2011 12:32:00 S Mathias wrote: > cat asdf.txt > bla-bla > bla-bla > bla[XYZ] > importantthing > another important thing > [/XYZ] > bla-bla > bla-bla > [XYZ] > yet another thing > hello! > [/XYZ] > bla-bla > etc. > $ SOMEPERLMAGIC asdf.txt > output.txt > $ cat output.txt > importantthing > another important thing > yet another thing > hello! This could mean almost anything (witness another response which excludes lines containing blah or XYZ, which gives the desired output on your test input). Are you actually trying to extract all the lines inside [XYZ]...[/XYZ] tags? are the tags guaranteed not to occur on the lines you need to extract, as they appear here? Because (all on one line) perl -ne 'print if ($check = m{\[XYZ\]} .. m{\[/XYZ\]}) > 1 and $check !~ /E0$/' asdf.txt >output.txt produces the same output as you have above for the test input. (The .. range operator in scalar context is true as soon as the left-hand expression is true, and false as soon as the right-hand expression is true. It returns 1 each time it becomes true, incrementing integers as it stays true, and appends E0 to the last number as it becomes false, which lets you exclude both endpoints). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 13:29:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEAC1065672 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick.bihan-faou@teambox.fr) Received: from smtp.teambox.fr (dedibox.teambox.fr [88.191.109.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D895E8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from crest.teambox.fr (crest.mindstep.com [88.167.204.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: teambox) by smtp.teambox.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C651FA2454A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:12:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kawa.local.mindstep.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1BAFDBF7D for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:12:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from patrick.bihan-faou@teambox.fr) Received: from kawa.local.mindstep.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kawa.local.mindstep.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bmDtfxija4U2 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:12:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.25.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kawa.local.mindstep.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD257FDB838 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:12:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from patrick.bihan-faou@teambox.fr) Message-ID: <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:12:23 +0100 From: Patrick Bihan-Faou Organization: TeamBox SARL User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:29:29 -0000 Le 04/01/2011 14:06, krad a écrit : > On 4 January 2011 10:32, S Mathias wrote: > >> cat asdf.txt >> bla-bla >> bla-bla >> bla[XYZ] >> importantthing >> another important thing >> [/XYZ] >> bla-bla >> bla-bla >> [XYZ] >> yet another thing >> hello! >> [/XYZ] >> bla-bla >> etc. >> $ SOMEPERLMAGIC asdf.txt> output.txt >> $ cat output.txt >> importantthing >> another important thing >> yet another thing >> hello! >> >> >> how can i sovle this question? what is SOMEPERLMAGIC? are there any perl >> gurus, that have a little spare time? >> >> Thank you! :\ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > doesnt need to be perl either > > cat asdf.txt | awk 'BEGIN {a=0} { if ( $0 ~ /\[XYZ\]/ ) a=1; if ( $0 ~ > /\[\/XYZ\]/ ) a=0; if ( a == 1) print $0}' > > or something close to it Simpler yet cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla Patrick. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 16:04:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C4E106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:04:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071EA8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p04G44qE012781; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:04:04 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p04G43aC012778; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:04:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:04:03 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Matthew Seaman In-Reply-To: <4D22DB01.4080600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> <4D22DB01.4080600@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:04:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: Jamie Paul Griffin , "illoai@gmail.com" , Chris Brennan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:04:05 -0000 On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/01/2011 00:51, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >> No, the -R flag in portmaster tells it to not rebuild >> ports taht have already been built on this run (I >> believe from reading man portmaster). The -R >> flag in portupgrade rebuilds the ports on which >> the named port depends >> -R >> --upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the given >> packages as well. (When specified with -F, fetch >> recursively, including the brand new, uninstalled >> ports that an upgraded port requires) >> >> I don't see any equivalent functionality for portmaster, >> sadly. > > This is actually portmaster's default behaviour. So: > > portupgrade -R foo/bar is equivalent to portmaster foo/bar > > portupgrade -fRr foo/bar is equivalent to portmaster -fr foo/bar I'm not seeing where portmaster has the portupgrade -R functionality ("rebuild this port and those it depends on"). portmaster(8) says "The focus of this tool is to keep the dependency tracking information for your ports up to date. This allows you to safely update a specific port without having to update all of the ports "above" it." That would make the default action equivalent to portupgrade's -r option ("rebuild this port and all those that depend on it"). What have I missed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 16:12:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F811065673 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (odyssey.prod.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DCD8FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.181.6.201] (ip-66-181-6-201.cust.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.6.201]) by i2bnetworks.com (8.14.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id p04GCvS6006991; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:12:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Message-Id: From: Troy Beisigl To: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <4D22A6DD.9030009@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:12:57 -0800 References: <499c934.4dfb66dee8b1e43b31ce7762775a1af7@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> <4D22A6DD.9030009@sentex.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-SpacelinkPC: LL odyssey.i2bnetworks.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:12:59 -0000 I will have to check on its next lockup. It happens about every week to week and a half. Troy Beisigl On Jan 3, 2011, at 8:49 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/3/2011 9:14 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> We are running the latest firmware. We upgraded to it in case this >> was the issue. As you can see from the log entry below, it shows >> the file system was not shut down cleanly because it was locked and >> had to be powered off. We are using Intel motherboards, so maybe >> something with FreeBSD and this card with the Intel motherboard? I >> know that this card works just fine with this board on CentOS, so... >> > > When it locks up, are you sure its the disk that locks up ? From the > console, if you do a CTRL+T, what does it show its blocking on ? Are > you > able to build a debug kernel to see where things are stuck ? > > ---Mike > >> Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage >> Controller> port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem 0xd0000000-0xd1ffffff, >> 0xd2020000-0xd2020fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 >> Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: [ITHREAD] >> Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: WARNING: (0x04: 0x0008): >> Unclean shutdown detected: unit=0 >> Dec 29 17:36:12 web01 kernel: twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): >> Controller details:: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 ports, Firmware FE9X >> 4.10.00.007, BIOS BE9X 4.08.00.002 >> >> Troy Beisigl >> >> >>> ---- Original Message ---- >>> From: Mike Tancsa >>> To: "Troy Beisigl" >>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >>> Sent: Mon, Jan 3, 2011, 13:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system >>> >>> I have a number of these cards and they work very well for us. What >>> version of the firmware are you using on the card ? >>> >>> I have this on a busy db server. But its RELENG8. >>> >>> twa0: <3ware 9000 series Storage Controller> port 0x1000-0x10ff mem >>> 0xb0000000-0xb1ffffff,0xb4000000-0xb4000fff irq 19 at device 0.0 >>> on pci12 >>> twa0: [ITHREAD] >>> twa0: INFO: (0x15: 0x1300): Controller details:: Model 9650SE-2LP, 2 >>> ports, Firmware FE9X 3.08.00.016, BIOS BE9X 3.08.00.004 >>> >>> I have had good luck with Areca cards as well, but they start in 4 >>> port >>> models. But really, all should work just fine with this 3ware/LSI >>> card >>> >>> ---Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/3/2011 3:58 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> We have been seeing a problem with FreeBSD 7.3 and up where the >>>> system >>>> will just hang when using a 9650SE-2LP raid card and 2 500G drives >>>> mirrored. The system will run for about a week and then the >>>> filesystem >>>> just hangs, causing the system to hang. We've looked through the >>>> logs >>>> and found nothing at all. We have changed the card and then the >>>> motherboard but the problem still exists. We have run this card >>>> with >>>> CentOS without fail in the same system configuration. >>>> >>>> If the card is not supported, can anyone recommend one that does >>>> work? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Troy Beisigl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>> " >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 16:20:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EBF31065672 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85938FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:129:b803:9ef7:c292] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:129:b803:9ef7:c292]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p04GKb6i080172 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 4 Jan 2011 11:20:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4D2348CF.3080804@sentex.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:20:31 -0500 From: Mike Tancsa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Beisigl References: <499c934.4dfb66dee8b1e43b31ce7762775a1af7@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> <4D22A6DD.9030009@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:20:40 -0000 On 1/4/2011 11:12 AM, Troy Beisigl wrote: > I will have to check on its next lockup. It happens about every week to > week and a half. Are you able to force the issue to recreate the problem ? ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 17:33:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37F9106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995D18FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7BC124A2E; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:33:03 -0800 (PST) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: Patrick Bihan-Faou References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.0.3; tzolkin = 2 Akbal; haab = 16 Kankin Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:33:03 -0800 In-Reply-To: <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> (Patrick Bihan-Faou's message of "Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:12:23 +0100") Message-ID: <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:33:03 -0000 >>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Bihan-Faou writes: Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 17:37:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F861065693 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA7B8FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yokozuna.lan (213-84-73-82.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.101.78.208]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p04HbqVM073594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:37:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Received: from yokozuna.lan (yokozuna.lan [IPv6:::1]) by yokozuna.lan (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p04HbpVH014947 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:37:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mbeis@xs4all.nl) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:37:51 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Sender: marco@yokozuna.lan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: locale settings and core dump LyX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:37:54 -0000 Hi, When I start LyX I'm getting an error: ... terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid Abort (core dumped) ... This seems to have something to do with my locale settings: ... LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= ... When I change the locale setting to C, lyx runs fine, but I want to keep my locale at UTF-8. So how can I keep UTF-8 and keep using LyX? Thanks in advance, Marco -- QOTD: "The only easy way to tell a hamster from a gerbil is that the gerbil has more dark meat." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 18:01:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90434106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DAC8FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.134.187] (port=50147 helo=[192.168.1.109]) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PaBCd-0006ag-VE; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:01:50 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:01:47 -0800 Message-Id: <16ABD485-4B26-47C4-AD19-6B84AB497874@vicor.com> References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> To: Randal L. Schwartz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Scan-Signature: 4200ec4bc691d63e2a7faedd91cea596 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Patrick Bihan-Faou , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:01:51 -0000 On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Patrick" =3D=3D Patrick Bihan-Faou = writes: >=20 > Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla >=20 > And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". I know I'm joining the party late, but... what about: grep -Ev '(XYZ|bla)' asdf.txt or awk '!/XYZ/ && !/bla/ {print}' asdf.txt ok... end useless contribution. >=20 > --=20 > Randal L. 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It may still be useful to see what if anything remains in the areas > that GPT uses .. see below. Seeing below... > For sure. I'm going to wait till 7.4-RELEASE, then reinstall all of the > ports on my now 7.4-PRERELEASE system from the set of ports (and esp. > packages) resulting from the ports freeze .. that way there's much less > chance of inconsistencies and mangled dependencies that often occur when > trying to upgrade a lot of ports/packages installed some time ago .. Hey fd0 still works! I found this out by mistake 2am this morning. I plugged my droid into the 7.3 box so it would charge next to me (still can't mount the sucker!). When I went to bed, I unpluged it and all the sudden the room got much much quieter! It would appear Ziggy decided to push up some daises and die for no reason. No coredump or crash data, the machine just shut itself down as it if had passed 'shutdown -r now' to it. It booted back up and seems to be running fine, infact I used it today to write some ufs partitions to some more media cards (I think I figured out my 56-in-1 reader!) > Ok, let's eg look at the first and last 'tracks' of 63 sectors. If you > have somewhere you can copy these to (like a USB stick) then you can do > that and examine them on another box with hexdump(1) | less(1). If not, > as they're expected to be mostly zeroes, you can do it directly: > dd if=/dev/ad4 count=71 | hd | less > Not sure if Fixit provides hd &/or less, though they appear in /usr/bin? Yes, indeed Fixit does have hd and less. More to, although it appears to be a symlink to less. > That shows you the boot sector ie MBR, plus anything in sectors 1-62, > plus the first 4KB of what will be ad4s1, ie the s1 boot blocks (if > they've been ever written there yet and haven't been since cleared) Indeed it did, I've attached the dd output of oth cmds you asked to use. As well as dmesg and 'sysctl -a'. > According to your earlier report, your disk has: > cylinders=1453521 heads=16 sectors/tracks=63 (1008 blks/cyl) > and using that (standard) geometry, reformatted a bit: > Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags > 0 63 62 - 12 unused 0 > 63 1465149105 1465149167 ad4s1 8 freebsd 165 > Check: 1453521 * 16 * 63 = 1465149168 sectors, numbered 0..1465149167 > So since iseek=0 starts at sector 0, then iseek=1465149167 starts at the > last sector, right? So: > dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149104 count=63 | hd > shows the last 63 sectors (last track) of the drive. If this isn't all > zeroes (which is worth knowing, and recording) then make it so with: > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149104 count=63 > which is ok for your blank disk, but for a disk in use you should only > zero the last 33 sectors as (way) below; there may be [meta]data before. Indeed, see above. > There were also (at least used to be) reports of troubles with some SATA > cables, and as you've replaced your HD it might be worth checking your > cable attachments are good, nothing twisted or under sideways pressure? No cables, when I took the old hard-drive out, it had a flimsy metal cage and a small adapter that changed the direction of the SATA plugs so that they are facing down. The hard-drive then plugs in, in a hinged fashion, the metal cage then screws to the laptop's frame to secure the drive from movement. It's a snug fit in any direction, so the drive can't become 'unhinged'. > I have exactly that problem resuming from suspend on my Thinkpad T23 on > all 8.x, where it worked fine from 6.1 through 7.4-PRERELEASE. So far > the smarter people are saying nothing; maybe I've offended some gods? Proffer the sacrificial lamb! > How hard is it to replace the SATA cable in these? I haven't time to > hunt now, but recall a swathe of messages to -stable a couple of years > ago about SATA problems that were entirely solved by replacing cables. No cables, see above. > Again, getting a copy of what's there before zeroing may be helpful. Numerous zeroing attempts, I still see data of some sort (see attachments) > Sorry, typo: /dev/da0a. Yes the images are 'hybrid' unsliced disks. > If you check with fdisk da0 you'll see it appears as slice 4, of about > 24MB. The boot sector is /boot/boot1 with a munged MBR entry pointing > to itself (ie slice s4 starts at sector 0), sectors 1-7 are /boot/boot2, > with an also munged bsdlabel in sector 1. From an 8.1-R memstick.img: > t23% fdisk -s da0 > /dev/da0: 967 cyl 64 hd 32 sec > Part Start Size Type Flags > 4: 0 50000 0xa5 0x80 > t23% bsdlabel da0c # (da0a whinges about size error) > # /dev/da0c: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 1852024 16 unused 0 0 > c: 1852040 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit I see said the blind man! (I think) > You should be able to find 1GB USB sticks for close to free these days; > longer term sysinstall needs to be taught to boot/use sliced USB media. Indeed but not in the cards right now ... what I do have (and now mostly working!) Is a 128MB CF1 card, a 32GB SDHC, 2GB MicroSD (from my old phone) and a handful of 512MB xD cards. I will make plans to get my hands on some 1gb/2gb cards/sticks but arn't in my near future right now ... logic tells me if I use a 2gb card/stick, I should be able to use that unpartitioned space to write data to w/o corrupting the 1gb parition... > Ok, so 'dd if=dev/ad4 iseek=63 count=8 | hd' should confirm it's all > zeroes (re Mike's concern about confirming that writes are not being > mangled). I'm not sure Fixit has hd though, and can't boot one just > now. I think there's enough free space on the image to write a few megs > to /dev/da0, I recall saving a dmesg and sysctl -a there once so I could > view it on another box, though df already shows it as 'overfull': > /dev/da0a 923679 860995 -11210 101% /mnt Indeed, I see the same from my USB hard-drive. > Hmm, certainly still in 7.4-PRE there's a 'W' menu option in both fdisk > and label screens. It might still work, but be hidden in 8.2? [Bruce?] Yes! 'w' does work, despite it not being visible I was able to use 'w'. It coughed up a very large warning that I shouldn't do this. But I was brave and did it anyway. Introducing this has given me a finer-grain filter to determine where the install is failing. I am able to write the fdisk data to disk and sysinstall reports that the data has been successfully written, I then move on to the label editor. 'a' for the 8.1 defaults (just to get it installed) and then 'w' again. Coughs up yet another warning and I am brave and did it anyway. My laptop has now hit me with a brick! Writing the labels is where sysinstall chokes and dies in it's own vomit. It threw up the error about not being able to fine /dev/ad4s1b. At this point, should I just crawl into a ball in the corner and cry? > Only helpful when it actually helps :) Well, I'm learning a lot from your examples! So you are very helpful. > Not bytes but sectors, and the right number seems to be 33. See below. Okies > :) The message you quoted immediately before this one, above. I'm still confused here, I seem to be missing an e-mail then :( > Ok, but you still should check the last track of the disk for cruft. How about I just zero the whole disk! cruf-be-gone, dd style! I actually don't think this is a bad idea. Maybe the drive *is* defective but not in a hard-ware fashion but a software one where the factory did something to it's table? I dunno, shot in the dark here, there is nothing on the drive so what do I have to loose? > Actually, double checking the maths, 1465149168 - 34 = 1465149134 but > that actually gets you the last 34 sectors (since size-1 gets the last 1 > sector) so I should have said size - 33 = 1465149135. Add count=33 to > be sure. After which, dd it back to check it's all zeroes: > dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149135 count=33 | hd I incorporated this change into my attached results/ > As my brief late followup to that message pointed out, I made a TERRIBLE > mistake there, saying skip instead of seek. I see you incorporated that > correction, phew. Just to point out how bad a slip it was, what it'd do > using skip is read - and discard - ~700GB of zeroes from the input, then > zero the entire disk! My new years' resolution is to 'skip using skip' > and to only ever use the more explicit iseek and oseek from now on! There is no data on the disk of use, how terrible could this have been? > "Careful with that axe, Eugene!" -- Pink Floyd > Indeed it shouldn't. 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 21:50:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D171065674 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (odyssey.prod.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6BB8FC15 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.181.6.201] (ip-66-181-6-201.cust.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.6.201]) by i2bnetworks.com (8.14.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id p04LohIK064822; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:50:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Message-Id: <2A467FF9-181D-448A-AEAE-C297859C8F0D@i2bnetworks.com> From: Troy Beisigl To: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <4D2348CF.3080804@sentex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 13:50:43 -0800 References: <499c934.4dfb66dee8b1e43b31ce7762775a1af7@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> <4D22A6DD.9030009@sentex.net> <4D2348CF.3080804@sentex.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-SpacelinkPC: LL odyssey.i2bnetworks.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:50:45 -0000 So far, no. It just happens. The system is not that loaded. It runs 2 virtually hosted websites with SSL and that is it at the moment. Troy Beisigl On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/4/2011 11:12 AM, Troy Beisigl wrote: >> I will have to check on its next lockup. It happens about every >> week to >> week and a half. > > Are you able to force the issue to recreate the problem ? > > ---Mike > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 22:04:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A7D106564A for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5A68FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so6649279eyf.13 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.34.193 with SMTP id m1mr10598064ebd.25.1294178659240; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:04:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.148 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:03:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:03:58 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:04:20 -0000 On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:17 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: > [.. trimming ccs, selectively quoting and de-gmailing a bit ..] > Trimmings! Oh nevermind. I don't know what possessed me to go and look at the debug window. But I do and I see the following. GEOM: ad4: the primary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. GEOM: ad4: using the secondary instead -- recovery strongly advised. This is even after zero the beginning and the end of the drive .... Something is hinky! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 22:12:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360B1106566C for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D648FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so14894279wyf.13 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:12:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=arMbaDxmX9Fe1hZZR7PYbE1E+ryMb2xnb99KPxySiqI=; b=pBXwQt4QiUwTegV3oatJ76h0FuZOBLbPlCugpZVxN/Cn68hJWKMAsRE+AetZ1N9W5g 9xLPpO79aIVrLwFn8lur+/2AuGXAE5LxYZ9uWFJF/fWVAQUcTFtSSfL463BDBakcorJj qlAUbCvXzOX30d2ld7os10he3mklwM1SjGm6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R19rTR7o03Wpm950sFT78CYpMn4cEEBsFWlqRJBkyjuMV8LLRDK6dyPtbX9fBnLYP0 B0yah4J7J6He+JSE+YwuORLVetCbnsHScZ+yEZs+LO72m5JELok+KwcbFQR8T8X+mXEl YscHHzuNeoB2kzOTIuYQ6VeYvT5419MZbLnvs= Received: by 10.216.154.134 with SMTP id h6mr5738436wek.65.1294179167738; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n11sm10819441wej.19.2011.01.04.14.12.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:12:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:12:42 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110104221242.35a1710f@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <16ABD485-4B26-47C4-AD19-6B84AB497874@vicor.com> References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <16ABD485-4B26-47C4-AD19-6B84AB497874@vicor.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:12:49 -0000 On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:01:47 -0800 Devin Teske wrote: > > On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > >>>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Bihan-Faou > >>>>>> writes: > > > > Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla > > > > And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". > > I know I'm joining the party late, but... what about: > > grep -Ev '(XYZ|bla)' asdf.txt > > or > > awk '!/XYZ/ && !/bla/ {print}' asdf.txt > > ok... end useless contribution. It's odd that people seem to be taking bla-bla so literally, when it's clearly a place holder for arbitary text. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 22:24:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87AF1065673 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:24:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1DA8FC1E for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:24:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at BSDLabs AB Message-ID: <4D239E07.3050106@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:24:07 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101107 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: robert@webtent.com References: <4CA3465C.30908@webtent.net> In-Reply-To: <4CA3465C.30908@webtent.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Fitzpatrick , FreeBSD Subject: Re: mpt error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:24:12 -0000 On 09/29/10 15:59, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Just want to check here to see if anyone else has experienced the > following errors showing up periodically in the logs on a FreeBSD 8.0 > VPS on vmware ESXi... > > Sep 29 05:38:35 db1 kernel: mpt0: attempting to abort req > 0xffffff80002a48c0:60350 function 0 > Sep 29 05:38:35 db1 kernel: mpt0: completing timedout/aborted req > 0xffffff80002a48c0:60350 > Sep 29 05:38:35 db1 kernel: mpt0: abort of req 0xffffff80002a48c0:0 > completed > > From what I googled, it appears this may be a disk I/O issue? I have > another FreeBSD 8.1 install on an exact duplicate server, except it has > a half the memory, with no errors. This ESXi server with the error has > 12GB RAM and these servers do not use RAID at all. Late reply, saw this when wading through the list looking for "mpt". Had similar during the weekend. mpt0: attempting to abort req 0xffffff80003cf510:10337 function 0 mpt0: abort of req 0xffffff80003cf510:10337 completed mpt0: port 0x5000-0x50ff mem 0xfdfe0000-0xfdffffff,0xfdfc0000-0xfdfdffff irq 74 at device 1.0 on pci6 The card connects a tape library to our backup server, a DL380 G4, 8.1-STABLE-201011 amd64, ZFS, 8G RAM. -- per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 00:15:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DF7106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 00:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFF08FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 00:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [208.206.78.30] (port=45121 helo=dt.vicor.com) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PaH1p-00021m-LT; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:15:03 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: RW In-Reply-To: <20110104221242.35a1710f@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <16ABD485-4B26-47C4-AD19-6B84AB497874@vicor.com> <20110104221242.35a1710f@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Vicor, Inc Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:15:01 -0800 Message-Id: <1294186501.26849.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-41.el4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: 6f436d297a0554f7f32c51a1c64658d6 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Cc: Devin Teske , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 00:15:04 -0000 On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:12 +0000, RW wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 10:01:47 -0800 > Devin Teske wrote: > > > > > On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > >>>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Bihan-Faou > > >>>>>> writes: > > > > > > Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla > > > > > > And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". > > > > I know I'm joining the party late, but... what about: > > > > grep -Ev '(XYZ|bla)' asdf.txt > > > > or > > > > awk '!/XYZ/ && !/bla/ {print}' asdf.txt > > > > ok... end useless contribution. > > It's odd that people seem to be taking bla-bla so literally, when it's > clearly a place holder for arbitary text. Maybe because the OP should have said: "How do I get the text between [XYZ] and [/XYZ]" A demarcing field-search is different than a pruning line-search. This is what the OP was looking for: awk -v tag=XYZ ' BEGIN { buf = "" } $0 ~ "\\["tag"\\]", $0 ~ "\\[/"tag"\\]" \ { if ( match($0, "\\[/"tag"\\]") ) \ { buf = buf substr($0, 0, RSTART - 1) sub(".*\\["tag"\\]", "", buf) sub(/^\n*/, "", buf) sub(/\n*$/, "", buf) print buf buf = "" next } else buf = buf $0"\n" } END { if ( length(buf) ) print buf }' asdf.txt or, if you would prefer to have it all on one line: awk -v tag=XYZ 'BEGIN { buf = "" } $0 ~ "\\["tag"\\]", $0 ~ "\\[/"tag"\ \]" { if ( match($0, "\\[/"tag"\\]") ) { buf = buf substr($0, 0, RSTART - 1); sub(".*\\["tag"\\]", "", buf); sub(/^\n*/, "", buf); sub(/\n*$/, "", buf); print buf; buf = ""; next } else buf = buf $0"\n" } END { if ( length(buf) ) print buf }' asdf.txt or, if you would like it as an alias: for bash... alias between_xyz='awk -v tag=XYZ '\''BEGIN { buf = "" } $0 ~ "\\["tag"\ \]", $0 ~ "\\[/"tag"\\]" { if ( match($0, "\\[/"tag"\\]") ) { buf = buf substr($0, 0, RSTART - 1); sub(".*\\["tag"\\]", "", buf); sub(/^\n*/, "", buf); sub(/\n*$/, "", buf); print buf; buf = ""; next } else buf = buf $0"\n" } END { if ( length(buf) ) print buf }'\' for csh: alias between_xyz 'awk -v tag=XYZ '\''BEGIN { buf = "" } $0 ~ "\\["tag"\ \]", $0 ~ "\\[/"tag"\\]" { if ( match($0, "\\[/"tag"\\]") ) { buf = buf substr($0, 0, RSTART - 1); sub(".*\\["tag"\\]", "", buf); sub(/^\n*/, "", buf); sub(/\n*$/, "", buf); print buf; buf = ""; next } else buf = buf $0"\n" } END { if ( length(buf) ) print buf }'\' Usage: between_xyz asdf.txt Of course, this can even be improved upon further... As a shell function: # between $what $file [$file ...] # # Split out lines between [$what] and [/$what] using awk(1). # between() { awk -v tag="$1" ' BEGIN { buf = "" } $0 ~ "\\["tag"\\]", $0 ~ "\\[/"tag"\\]" \ { if ( match($0, "\\[/"tag"\\]") ) \ { buf = buf substr($0, 0, RSTART - 1) sub(".*\\["tag"\\]", "", buf) sub(/^\n*/, "", buf) sub(/\n*$/, "", buf) print buf buf = "" next } else buf = buf $0"\n" } END { if ( length(buf) ) print buf } ' "$@" } Or, for those csh users, how about a fancy alias?: alias between 'awk -v tag="\!^" '\''BEGIN { buf = "" } $0 ~ "\\["tag"\ \]", $0 ~ "\\[/"tag"\\]" { if ( match($0, "\\[/"tag"\\]") ) { buf = buf substr($0, 0, RSTART - 1); sub(".*\\["tag"\\]", "", buf); sub(/^\n*/, "", buf); sub(/\n*$/, "", buf); print buf; buf = ""; next } else buf = buf $0"\n" } END { if ( length(buf) ) print buf }'\'' \!:2-$' Usage: between XYZ asdf.txt AND... (lol)... last but not least... If you want to have case-insensitivity, you'll have to change: BEGIN { buf = "" } to: BEGIN { IGNORECASE = 1; buf = "" } NOTE: FYI, when you need to grab text that spans multiple lines between two field delimiters, C/C++ is superior to perl/awk which excel at line- based I/O versus block I/O. However, I conclude that the OP wanted something that was executable from the command-line (considering that he/she actually gave a basic construct for a perl one-liner (which might as well be an awk one-liner considering FreeBSD doesn't come with Perl in the base anymore and thus not every machine is guaranteed to have perl -- while every machine has awk). ANOTHER NOTE: The above is not intended to start a language flame-war... just an observation. If you have observed an easy _and_ convenient method that _does_ use perl/awk (in a manner more efficient than the above), I'm sure the OP/list would love it. 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I then installed perl 5.12. A few days later I changed my mind and installed X with a window manager and a few other things. Somehow - not sure when and why - one of the ports installed perl 5.10 as a dependancy setting itself as the default perl installation for the system so i ended with a mix of ports build against different perl versions. I've mostly fixed this by doing a: `env DISABLE_CONFLICTS=1 portupgrade -o lang/perl5.12 -f perl-5.10.\*` followed by: `portupgrade -fr perl` (which didn't do anything :-/ ) or at least i thought i had, but it seems there are a few perl modules that aren't behaving and i think i need to just rebuild all the perl stuff again. I wondered, should i do this and if so if there's a particular ports-management tool that would be best suited to this? jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 01:37:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E206B1065670 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7680E8FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so14509230fxm.13 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:37:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Kr8fyQ9N9NZIApqClCn3eI3wLEpnOvvhwq+1TX1cMRA=; b=ADyfdGmdo1/qW0hq9fAOmcUrcYBAj8k7zg6M1dpM4OoqHjhVweCBqz48cK6gNmY1Mt 1vAEpBQVBhzb9aWk3BRQBJKWRjkuw8D/k0DCv8vPP01wR2ViAzuj/fYQO8v26lmC4U+o 9oLzEtTCx4jA2miRTqgAQ16U8HFpaiBJhABfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CRVjs6W1oZNCASItppzq0FUA7V4kTKZQ0FUyDIcTq8vYJhUasUyGAL+LppwTNzgKxf YRZTC5updhA3E6bNUCKAXrycD167UBjsKfQ1OvMnTmMAy2uePpONDhICqft9rCbSvJMV NUVOydkL113mIZPhwTAQjp9YD05GTv3YdGTwM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.110.77 with SMTP id m13mr1465631fap.86.1294191467293; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.193 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 17:37:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201101050111.p051B87e004818@griffin.gnix.co.uk> References: <201101050111.p051B87e004818@griffin.gnix.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:37:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: jamie@gnix.co.uk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best way to rebuild all perl ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 01:37:49 -0000 On 4 January 2011 20:11, wrote: > hi everyone > > When i installed FreeBSD 8.1 the other day i was just going to keep it a = console-based system with no X just to do a bit of coding and stuff. I then= installed perl 5.12. > > A few days later I changed my mind and installed X with a window manager = and a few other things. Somehow - not sure when and why - one of the ports = installed perl 5.10 as a dependancy setting itself as the default perl inst= allation for the system so i ended with a mix of ports build against differ= ent perl versions. > > I've mostly fixed this by doing a: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0`env DISABLE_CONFLICTS=3D1 portupgrade -o lang/perl5.12 -f= perl-5.10.\*` > > followed by: > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0`portupgrade -fr perl` (which didn't do anything :-/ ) > > or at least i thought i had, but it seems there are a few perl modules th= at aren't behaving and i think i need to just rebuild all the perl stuff ag= ain. I wondered, should i do this and if so if there's a particular ports-m= anagement tool that would be best suited to this? > Do you have PERL_VERSION=3D set correctly in /etc/make.conf? --=20 -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 01:42:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3746D106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@griffin.gnix.co.uk) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D8C8FC0C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (jpg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p051go00025360 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:42:50 GMT Received: (from jpg@localhost) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p051goWK010162 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:42:50 GMT Message-Id: <201101050142.p051goWK010162@griffin.gnix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: from "illoai@gmail.com" at "Jan 4, 2011 08:37:47 pm" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:42:50 +0000 (GMT) From: jamie@gnix.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: best way to rebuild all perl ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 01:42:53 -0000 > Do you have PERL_VERSION= set correctly in /etc/make.conf? This was set automatically when i first installed perl5.12. This line was later over-written when perl5.10 was installed. Since i used portupgrade to change back to perl5.12 this line has been set correctly. Susbsequent ports i've installed that require perl have been built against 5.12. jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 01:44:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9941065698 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97898FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 01:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p051i9QY014797; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:44:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p051i9l5014794; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:44:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:44:09 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Chris Brennan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:44:10 -0700 (MST) Cc: Bruce Cran , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 01:44:13 -0000 On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:17 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: >> [.. trimming ccs, selectively quoting and de-gmailing a bit ..] >> > > Trimmings! Oh nevermind. I don't know what possessed me to go and look > at the debug window. But I do and I see the following. > > GEOM: ad4: the primary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. > GEOM: ad4: using the secondary instead -- recovery strongly advised. > > This is even after zero the beginning and the end of the drive .... > Something is hinky! Today I also found that zeroing the beginning and end of the drive didn't seem to be enough. I had the start of a huffy email about how hard it was to calculate the end of a drive in blocks, and how dd didn't have a negative oseek to seek backwards from the end. But then I checked gpart(8)... and it turns out that # gpart destroy -F da0 works. Be very careful that you've got the right drive there, of course. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 02:16:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6525B106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 02:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51258FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 02:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so6709728eyf.13 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.25.140 with SMTP id z12mr347923ebb.12.1294193759473; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:15:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.28.148 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:15:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 21:15:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:16:01 -0000 On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Chris Brennan wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Ian Smith wrote: >> >> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:17 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: >>> [.. trimming ccs, selectively quoting and de-gmailing a bit ..] >>> >>> >> Trimmings! Oh nevermind. I don't know what possessed me to go and look >> at the debug window. But I do and I see the following. >> >> GEOM: ad4: the primary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. >> GEOM: ad4: using the secondary instead -- recovery strongly advised. >> >> This is even after zero the beginning and the end of the drive .... >> Something is hinky! >> > > Today I also found that zeroing the beginning and end of the drive didn't > seem to be enough. I had the start of a huffy email about how hard it was > to calculate the end of a drive in blocks, and how dd didn't have a negative > oseek to seek backwards from the end. But then I checked gpart(8)... and it > turns out that > > # gpart destroy -F da0 > > works. Be very careful that you've got the right drive there, of course. > Fixit# gpart destroy -F /dev/node# says gpart: illegal option -- F it would appear that the gpart on the 8.1-RELEASE and 8.2BETA1 images do not contain this switch and I get pattern not found when I search 'man 8 gpart' ... there is a '-f flags' but no mention of '-F' C- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 04:37:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ADF106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 04:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@stonehenge.com) Received: from red.stonehenge.com (red.stonehenge.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:3080::]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2B08FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 04:37:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by red.stonehenge.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DF0274FCC; Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:37:31 -0800 (PST) From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) To: RW References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <16ABD485-4B26-47C4-AD19-6B84AB497874@vicor.com> <20110104221242.35a1710f@gumby.homeunix.com> x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.18.0.3; tzolkin = 2 Akbal; haab = 16 Kankin Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:37:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20110104221242.35a1710f@gumby.homeunix.com> (RW's message of "Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:12:42 +0000") Message-ID: <86d3oc2cfo.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:37:32 -0000 >>>>> "RW" == RW writes: RW> It's odd that people seem to be taking bla-bla so literally, when it's RW> clearly a place holder for arbitary text. That's the problem when you provide an example instead of a rule. But oddly enough, once you figure out the actual rule, translating that into a program is generally rather mechanical. Hence the irony of such questions. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 05:44:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B284D106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:44:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009D18FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 05:44:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p055iCs4024596; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:44:12 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:44:12 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Warren Block In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 05:44:26 -0000 On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Chris Brennan wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:31:17 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: > > > [.. trimming ccs, selectively quoting and de-gmailing a bit ..] > > > > > > > Trimmings! Oh nevermind. I don't know what possessed me to go and look > > at the debug window. But I do and I see the following. > > > > GEOM: ad4: the primary GPT table is corrupt or invalid. > > GEOM: ad4: using the secondary instead -- recovery strongly advised. > > > > This is even after zero the beginning and the end of the drive .... > > Something is hinky! Indeed. Well Chris attached the following to his prior email, which made it to the list being text, dmesg didn't, application/octet-stream: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachments/20110104/c370dd77/dmesg-0001.obj But confirming the GEOM messages shown above, here's the 'smoking gun': 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| * 00004000 45 46 49 20 50 41 52 54 00 00 01 00 5c 00 00 00 |EFI PART....\...| 00004010 2b b3 b7 fa 00 00 00 00 ef 66 54 57 00 00 00 00 |+........fTW....| 00004020 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |........".......| 00004030 ce 66 54 57 00 00 00 00 45 51 13 4c 0e 0e e0 11 |.fTW....EQ.L....| 00004040 95 6e 00 1d 72 5b f5 d6 cf 66 54 57 00 00 00 00 |.n..r[...fTW....| 00004050 80 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 86 d2 54 ab 00 00 00 00 |..........T.....| 00004060 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| * 00004200 So that is really the last 33 sectors of the disk (0x4200 = 16896d, / 512 = 33) and the last sector does indeed have the 'GPT EFI' signature (ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table), so the seek and count looks right, matching the read command I'd suggested: > dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149135 count=33 | hd Seems odd that it hasn't been zeroed, but all the sectors before it are (ie there's just the header, no actual 128-byte partition entries if I'm interpreting this correctly), so maybe there's still some off-by-one in counting from the end of the disk for writing, not knowing the actual dd command used .. you're not wrong that negative offsets can be tricky! > Today I also found that zeroing the beginning and end of the drive didn't > seem to be enough. I had the start of a huffy email about how hard it was to > calculate the end of a drive in blocks, and how dd didn't have a negative > oseek to seek backwards from the end. But then I checked gpart(8)... and it > turns out that > > # gpart destroy -F da0 > > works. Be very careful that you've got the right drive there, of course. Saw Chris' later message that -F isn't there for him, but here's what should be, on the data, the sure-fire way to clobber that last sector: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149167 which command SHOULD report just 512 bytes written (we're sure it can't write past the end of the disk with no count specified), after which: dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149167 | hd SHOULD show zeroes from 00000000 to 000001ff (ie next block 00000200) If not, there really must be some hardware issue with writing? Hopefully getting there! cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 06:32:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C67F1065674 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:32:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DCA98FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15715 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2011 06:32:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2011 06:32:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Uf7X/xCUydttU+DxRcEY1mDs8C7owUKqsVGNd3g63cEZMfTCVQkJGkzJ5q2JUh6l/BYS8FHuT/v4keornAwNPBvS15q+dOqnXzm8WLJaT+ugQtS6hNvKrJHqvQuDKSio; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PaMvB-0003io-Fa for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:32:34 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:24:01 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 23:24:01 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105062401.GB74123@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:32:35 -0000 --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:33:03AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Patrick" =3D=3D Patrick Bihan-Faou = writes: >=20 > Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla >=20 > And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". The weirdest thing about most useless uses of cat is that not using cat would actually be a little clearer and involve fewer keystrokes -- as in this case. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk0kDoEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKX2sACZARMGJqSXF/zMGoCb3UOWyL9O K+YAoLjFgKLe+o/E0tHJ/nThOWGusp90 =LJUd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4bRzO86E/ozDv8r1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 08:43:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B28106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sa@mbg.se) Received: from server3.mbg.se (c-7-202-233-83.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.202.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E88FC0C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:43:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dator1.hbg.mbg.se (server7 [83.233.202.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server3.mbg.se (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p058gVfv048012 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:42:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sa@mbg.se) Message-ID: <4D242F04.9060106@mbg.se> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:42:44 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sven-=C5ke_Svensson?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101216 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201101050142.p051goWK010162@griffin.gnix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <201101050142.p051goWK010162@griffin.gnix.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on server3.mbg.se Subject: Re: best way to rebuild all perl ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:43:07 -0000 2011-01-05 02:42, jamie@gnix.co.uk skrev: >> Do you have PERL_VERSION= set correctly in /etc/make.conf? > > This was set automatically when i first installed perl5.12. This line was later over-written when perl5.10 was installed. Since i used portupgrade to change back to perl5.12 this line has been set correctly. Susbsequent ports i've installed that require perl have been built against 5.12. > > jamie Hi Check so you not have "perl-threaded". If you have you must type "portupgrade -fr perl-treaded". Othervise it just do nothing. Sven > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 11:02:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F30106566C; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from smtp.des.no (smtp.des.no [194.63.250.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192848FC1D; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7361FFC33; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5862A84531; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:45:08 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: "Christopher J. Ruwe" References: <20101229232030.25b2bd5a@dijkstra> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:45:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20101229232030.25b2bd5a@dijkstra> (Christopher J. Ruwe's message of "Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:20:30 +0100") Message-ID: <864o9nhbnv.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting a random password with PAM API X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:02:28 -0000 "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: > I am trying to implement the feature to set a random password like in > BSD "pw usermod -W" in the Solaris passwd. Regrettably, I have not > found or perhaps not understood the PAM API documentation on how to > _inject a given string_ into the change-auth-token function > pam_chauthtok(...), which always jumps in an interactive pw-changing > loop. There is no reliable way to do that. You don't even know that there is such a thing as a password. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 11:50:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1194106564A; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217D38FC1A; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so6340013gxk.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 03:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.167.7 with SMTP id p7mr32455349yae.10.1294228199507; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 03:49:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g27sm13727271yhd.13.2011.01.05.03.49.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 03:49:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D84FE5485F; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:49:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:49:56 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110105064956.22d5382f@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ale@FreeBSD.org Subject: mysql-5.5.8 & Postfix/Dovecot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:50:00 -0000 I have seen it posted here and on the Dovecot forum that upgrading to mysql-5.5.8 on FreeBSD breaks both Postfix and Dovecot. Apparently reverting to the mysql-client-5.5.7 corrects this problem. Can any one else confirm this or is this simply an isolated incident? If this is correct, is there a PR filed against it? I was not able to locate one. Specifically, I am interested in the interaction on an FreeBSD-8.2 / amd64 system. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ Kaufman's First Law of Party Physics: Population density is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the keg. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 11:56:35 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51B21065672 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:56:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A359C8FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaRyk-0003TV-2d for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:56:34 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaRyj-0002sG-SO for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:56:33 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05BuXXa038474 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:56:33 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p05BuXI7038473 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:56:33 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:56:33 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105115633.GA38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: port print/teTeX-base failed to install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:56:36 -0000 I'm updating to teTeX-base-3.0_21. I can build the port, but trying to install it gives me this error: *snip* install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./mktex.opt /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktex.opt install -o root -g wheel -m 555 ./mktexdir /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexdir install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./mktexdir.opt /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexdir.opt install -o root -g wheel -m 555 ./mktexnam /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./mktexnam.opt /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam.opt install -o root -g wheel -m 555 ./mktexupd /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexupd /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install install -o root -g wheel -m 444 .libs/libkpathsea.a /usr/local/lib install -o root -g wheel -m 444 .libs/libkpathsea.a /usr/local/lib/libkpathsea.a ranlib /usr/local/lib/libkpathsea.a chmod 644 /usr/local/lib/libkpathsea.a /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 kpsewhich /usr/local/bin install -o root -g wheel -m 555 -s kpsewhich /usr/local/bin/kpsewhich install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 kpsestat /usr/local/bin BFD: /usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc: The first section in the PT_DYNAMIC segment is not the .dynamic section strip:/usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc[.interp]: Bad value BFD: /usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc: The first section in the PT_DYNAMIC segment is not the .dynamic section strip:/usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc: Bad value install: wait: No such file or directory gmake[2]: *** [install-exec] Error 70 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/teTeX-base/work/tetex-src-3.0/texk/kpathsea' gmake[1]: *** [install] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/teTeX-base/work/tetex-src-3.0/texk' gmake: *** [install] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-base. # Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 12:09:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB861106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:09:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3758FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05C7r6x085100 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 04:07:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4D245F73.1050401@rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:09:23 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101211 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Why top(1) only shows time of the main thread? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:09:25 -0000 TIME column is supposed to show time of the process (according to its man page). But it seems like it only shows the time of its main thread. Why? Bug in documentation? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 12:12:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710671065697 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD7F8FC25 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaSEJ-00024b-Oz; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:12:39 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaSEJ-0000Da-Ij; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:12:39 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05CCdjj038541; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:12:39 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p05CCdnF038540; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:12:39 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:12:39 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20110105121239.GB38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101227141122.GA1741@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4D18AB0C.50707@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D18AB0C.50707@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:12:41 -0000 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 03:04:44PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 27/12/2010 14:11, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > On 9.0-CURRENT r216732 ia64 I get this message: > > > > % grep getty /var/log/messages | tail > > Dec 27 13:26:57 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:27:27 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:27:57 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:45:22 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:45:53 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:46:23 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:52:55 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:53:25 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:57:56 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > Dec 27 13:58:26 mech-cluster241 init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs > > % > > > > % grep ttyv8 /etc/ttys > > ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm" xterm on secure > > > > % cat /var/log/xdm.log > > % > > > > And no other indication of anything going wrong. > > > > I've seen quite a few similar reports on the net, > > but no conclusive answer. > > > > What exactly does the above message mean? > > Usually that xdm is failing to start. getty will keep trying to run it, > and wil fill your log files with messages of failure until you fix the > problem. > > I'd turn off xdm on that vty temporarily, [change 'on' to 'off' in that > line in /etc/ttys, and 'kill -HUP 1' to restart init] and then try > running xdm manually from the console to see what happens. It could be > all sorts of things causing the problem. Matthew, yes, this helped. I don't get this message in the logs anymore. Perhaps the problem is that this node has no graphics card. It accepts XDMCP connections only via network. All virtual terminals are off, only serial terminals are allowed in /etc/ttys. Maybe this conficts with the normal operation of getty.. I'd still like to start xdm automatically on reboot. If I can't do it via /etc/ttys, what would be the alternative way? many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 12:13:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E0A106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:13:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@griffin.gnix.co.uk) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F417A8FC19 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (jpg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p05CDJLR023618; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:13:19 GMT Received: (from jpg@localhost) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p05CDJNW006173; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:13:19 GMT Message-Id: <201101051213.p05CDJNW006173@griffin.gnix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D242F04.9060106@mbg.se> from "[Sven-_ke Svensson]" at "Jan 5, 2011 09:42:44 am" To: "[Sven-_ke Svensson]" Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:13:19 +0000 (GMT) From: jamie@gnix.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: best way to rebuild all perl ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:13:22 -0000 > Check so you not have "perl-threaded". If you have you must type > "portupgrade -fr perl-treaded". Othervise it just do nothing. wow that was easy. this was the problem and it's now rebuilding everything. thanks to everyone for their advice. jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 12:38:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D921106566B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93DD8FC12; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so14984345qwj.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:38:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=3/J+Bn96olNWAT/a3Y09xhTmi51i+5dK9r3tbwwZPBM=; b=UebZ47XiqXQdqL+oEKBsFbxIAcvM1aMCPjZm5Gj2uR+Wxqw3QrgMC2E/oBRJlvzjeA +3RSLgl53p9obdHKLvn19h/ZPIi6uxJ1maCuy+e5ZnMguEb0GJKE6JHBd73g0W1TCaq3 6+57Oyo/kSZCNxRiN6Wm70vJGlP1OEaColpgA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=uFF/rQX3M8nhtcTqXK+DLgR4Bj6eI6FJ7R1aixFnIlXqxQrj80Ugtmi9xDSvs3kaUW c3rkBmPkF8fAg/ZkP3MVCFXQ8d4ejeKesmPsk1WsuSMGWrLHx7pBJ+MiuRuchX0NVXeS 0QDbI/rEMurEp3jk2TUMtsyHwtFBZ4Ccl4P9E= Received: by 10.229.95.81 with SMTP id c17mr19725993qcn.99.1294231089118; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:38:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 04:37:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110105064956.22d5382f@scorpio> References: <20110105064956.22d5382f@scorpio> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:37:38 +0300 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ale@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mysql-5.5.8 & Postfix/Dovecot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:38:10 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Jerry wrote: > I have seen it posted here and on the Dovecot forum that upgrading to > mysql-5.5.8 on FreeBSD breaks both Postfix and Dovecot. Apparently > reverting to the mysql-client-5.5.7 corrects this problem. > > Can any one else confirm this or is this simply an isolated incident? > If this is correct, is there a PR filed against it? I was not able to > locate one. Specifically, I am interested in the interaction on an > FreeBSD-8.2 / amd64 system. > > I haven't filed a case though. My system is 8.2-STABLE/i386. I was running 5.5.7 with Request Tracker (Devel)and all played nice until I upgraded to 5.5.8. As this is a test platform, I wanted to install the next devel version of RT when I encountered a problem with initializing the database: I get this error: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ENGINE=InnoDB CHARACTER SET utf8' at line 15 at /usr/home/wash/Tools/RT/RT-4/rt-4.0.0rc1/sbin/../lib/RT/Handle.pm line 508. *** Error code 255 My worry is so much about the character set error. I also found my dovecot broken: Jan 05 15:26:16 master: Error: service(auth): child 46112 returned error 1 Jan 05 15:26:16 master: Error: service(auth): command startup failed, throttling Jan 05 15:26:51 pop3-login: Error: Timeout waiting for handshake from auth server. my pid=46111, input bytes=0 Jan 05 15:27:16 auth: Error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16: version libmysqlclient_16 required by /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/auth not defined -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 13:07:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39867106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:07:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992E88FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p05D7DYr047754; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:07:14 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:07:13 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20110105120012.26D6710656E0@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20110105234451.T49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110105120012.26D6710656E0@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:07:23 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 344, Issue 4, Message: 14 On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 23:24:01 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:33:03AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > >>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Bihan-Faou writes: > > > > Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla > > > > And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". > > The weirdest thing about most useless uses of cat is that not using cat > would actually be a little clearer and involve fewer keystrokes -- as in > this case. Do you know of any 'less useless' or more economical way to do such as: % cat /boot/boot1 /boot/boot2 | diff - /boot/boot % ?, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 13:49:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D15106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE7498FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so15123330wwf.31 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 05:49:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q/NS6abLRxQ/dQTFuucvllG1uFx8FUzkt2Ig6xatT+s=; b=IcRpuUDCxEHxoYeCMBvmMlDua2tZswSlY03uvUHMwrgOszsOg/HJTIrOohfowrBmWE XQodCjr/x3swwQo53T1Of65/Lg+IsOtKIUnOgBE/FWjRwY/ZU3IkwY6rZjU1k/lOfQ2F JADYyht4cUDCG0SzPrGshvxS8g1vaCQv02NUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tfpPRNA1xHlFYvQX42meCllM+54TVRABYTuJhq2Fe0FCDj3T/MrjtTZyMHY0T7ajXt EJXe9jzWkMTSElxoE7lLjadfvuUdjqbnHuRrupBNz8o6Tbli3RToVHN9Nv6C2iPkzaPJ Lq7FyWjbGU0/AbHD/lETHxbSeDQjvmPEH3a9k= Received: by 10.227.98.158 with SMTP id q30mr7479233wbn.151.1294235378587; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 05:49:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-180-5.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.180.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m13sm15955746wbz.3.2011.01.05.05.49.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 05:49:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D2476EB.3080304@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:49:31 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101212 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Real ISO-8859-15 support or just an `alias' to 8859-1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:49:40 -0000 Hello, I can't write these characters '€' 'œ' using ISO-8859-15 locales, in fact the 'œ' character is replaced with '½'. As you can see here http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8859-15 the œ character should be replaced with ½, so i'm guessing if the locales are really using ISO-8859-15 and not only 8859-1 These problems were reported on xterm / urxvt with or without vim. My locales : markand@Melon ~ $ locale LANG=fr_FR.ISO8859-15 LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_TIME="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_ALL= Kind regards, -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 14:07:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FCCE1065674 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278D68FC1A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr (mr129041.cri.univ-rennes1.fr [129.20.129.41]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A82CE63319B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:07:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B264B841; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:07:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:07:14 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: David Demelier Message-ID: <20110105150714.3e8ecff2@mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr> In-Reply-To: <4D2476EB.3080304@gmail.com> References: <4D2476EB.3080304@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real ISO-8859-15 support or just an `alias' to 8859-1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:07:17 -0000 Le Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:49:31 +0100, David Demelier a écrit : > Hello, Hello, > I can't write these characters '€' 'œ' using ISO-8859-15 locales, in > fact the 'œ' character is replaced with '½'. > > As you can see here http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8859-15 the œ > character should be replaced with ½, so i'm guessing if the locales > are really using ISO-8859-15 and not only 8859-1 > > These problems were reported on xterm / urxvt with or without vim. I think the problem is the font. It works fine using an iso8859-* in xterm, by example: $ xterm -font '-*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*' Works fine with Terminal too. > My locales : > > markand@Melon ~ $ locale > LANG=fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_TIME="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_ALL= looks good, I use: ~$ locale LANG=fr_FR.ISO8859-15 LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_TIME="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" LC_ALL=fr_FR.ISO8859-15 Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 14:11:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DA9106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1BD8FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so15485395wyf.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:11:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rqM4o/9Uw36DRTAHN735XjecM/ZPEq/E4IDzI4QpJys=; b=DkJeHKS/xrpAfiHZUuUNi1jewdNELbPl42G4YV/J5FVdXdylVrldxF2wplKLcZHbat 5Mu6YXSF3OIB0Ux0f2axxwpRdEhNiH7fTKz1VAavKQtiZmS7iNdvKr8+9a+aKS/tFg4F 67eSqs7EYeKhxU2J2s9rdouWI2ThmT9hqoD/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mzkaQ6xF4JB9JnOhfdNGGB3zmsDlAHHodWkiuM11bXysmOQfl/tPNtBgvDXaye9znp 5EbAGBcfjbUplR+sIlrCin2xuIexdoGU+2wQekFO4JtVdRrWt33kSCYpSZCjOfahKDqC xq8530VdInq4VXsrdC98UKRUIuSmq3uDJiXA8= Received: by 10.227.128.4 with SMTP id i4mr13683474wbs.109.1294236708429; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Melon.malikania.fr (wifi-osiris-sec-180-5.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.180.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f35sm15969081wbf.14.2011.01.05.06.11.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:11:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D247C1C.5030703@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:11:40 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101212 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Lamaiziere References: <4D2476EB.3080304@gmail.com> <20110105150714.3e8ecff2@mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr> In-Reply-To: <20110105150714.3e8ecff2@mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real ISO-8859-15 support or just an `alias' to 8859-1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:11:50 -0000 On 05/01/2011 15:07, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:49:31 +0100, > David Demelier a écrit : > >> Hello, > > Hello, > >> I can't write these characters '€' 'œ' using ISO-8859-15 locales, in >> fact the 'œ' character is replaced with '½'. >> >> As you can see here http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8859-15 the œ >> character should be replaced with ½, so i'm guessing if the locales >> are really using ISO-8859-15 and not only 8859-1 >> >> These problems were reported on xterm / urxvt with or without vim. > > I think the problem is the font. No, my font is DejaVu and it supports these characters! > > It works fine using an iso8859-* in xterm, by example: > $ xterm -font '-*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*' > Exactly the same thing, '1/2' instead of 'oe' and a square instead of euro sign. It looks like I'm really using 8859-1 instead of 8859-15. > Works fine with Terminal too. > >> My locales : >> >> markand@Melon ~ $ locale >> LANG=fr_FR.ISO8859-15 >> LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" >> LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" >> LC_TIME="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" >> LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" >> LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" >> LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" >> LC_ALL= > > looks good, I use: > ~$ locale > LANG=fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_TIME="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_MESSAGES="fr_FR.ISO8859-15" > LC_ALL=fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > > Regards. -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 14:28:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE7D106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reddvinylene@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF27C8FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvc22 with SMTP id 22so3209843pvc.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:28:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xw7USt092tYKjAB5/nibAvaS93I+zCysOcLTmEfMKLU=; b=ZZK4j05Rs8YZO32nSj0mR0ppL07T8HFBAdEGmkeZG1pgRNBwxopMsBKUwZ3TVsJt7s u7Z0shGbAnUlafFkx0u0Qk70yHW+v/Xm7lw6ba3mAegirzGhr+4ZrgwKK76pmH3a9snv nhfJGvSCKzW8z0T1zJRzjm1cppqmlKs6YxQMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tyqY10rw6lR6qoGTSQ7xpvpuWrEstqwUQUgz0qd4EXcf7HQBNeufYfUdQlAS8zyufM EGdp5qgdwKGWmTBNniFGbmiYtbGArBDHTJhLmxX0hWP2ZRcL9XMh/l7TTnzrp4wJqORM 9iZ6a2NXIpoB+2sCOny1+CTvtDk2OBQkukg4k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.213.11 with SMTP id l11mr10619136wfg.110.1294237682322; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.232.1 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 06:28:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:28:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: Redd Vinylene To: questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: vsftpd + SSL not working X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:28:05 -0000 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Redd Vinylene wrote= : > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Odhiambo Washington w= rote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Redd Vinylene wr= ote: >> >>> I'm trying to set up a virtual vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 server (FreeBSD >>> 8.2-PRERELEASE) so my band can share new tracks, production material an= d >>> what not, but my SSL certificate keeps messing it up: >>> http://pastie.org/1358536 - anybody know why? It works just fine when I >>> disable the SSL. I have no firewalls running. >>> >>> I hope this is not too off-topic. I just don't know where else to ask. >>> >>> >> Would it not be better if you posted your configuration and debug logs f= or >> those willing to help you out to see? >> > > It's all in http://pastie.org/1358536, but incase you don't want to click > the link: > > ## /var/log/vsftpd.conf (FTPRush) > > Wed Dec 8 11:21:07 2010 [pid 38781] CONNECT: Client "161.149.221.220" > Wed Dec 8 11:21:07 2010 [pid 38781] DEBUG: Client "161.149.221.220", "SS= L > version: TLSv1/SSLv3, SSL cipher: DES-CBC3-SHA, not reused, no cert" > Wed Dec 8 11:21:08 2010 [pid 38780] [bruner] OK LOGIN: Client > "161.149.221.220" > Wed Dec 8 11:21:08 2010 [pid 38781] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL version: TLSv1/SSLv3, SSL cipher: DES-CBC3-SHA, n= ot > reused, no cert" > Wed Dec 8 11:21:08 2010 [pid 38781] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL shutdown state is: NONE" > Wed Dec 8 11:21:08 2010 [pid 38781] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL shutdown state is: SSL_SENT_SHUTDOWN" > > And then the directory listing after 3 minutes: > > Wed Dec 8 11:24:29 2010 [pid 38781] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL shutdown state is: 3" > > ## /var/log/vsftpd.conf (FlashFXP) > > Wed Dec 8 11:33:50 2010 [pid 56557] [bruner] OK LOGIN: Client > "161.149.221.220" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:51 2010 [pid 56558] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL version: TLSv1/SSLv3, SSL cipher: DES-CBC3-SHA, > reused, no cert" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:51 2010 [pid 56558] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL shutdown state is: NONE" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:51 2010 [pid 56558] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL shutdown state is: SSL_SENT_SHUTDOWN" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:51 2010 [pid 56558] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL shutdown state is: SSL_SENT_SHUTDOWN" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:51 2010 [pid 56558] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL shutdown state is: SSL_SENT_SHUTDOWN" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:51 2010 [pid 56558] [bruner] DEBUG: Client > "161.149.221.220", "SSL ret: 18446744073709551615, SSL error: > error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0), errno: 22" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:53 2010 [pid 56559] [bruner] OK DELETE: Client > "161.149.221.220", "/bruner_december_2010/track_1.mp3" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:53 2010 [pid 56559] [bruner] OK DELETE: Client > "161.149.221.220", "/bruner_december_2010/tracks.sfv" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:53 2010 [pid 56559] [bruner] OK DELETE: Client > "161.149.221.220", "/bruner_december_2010/tracks.txt" > Wed Dec 8 11:33:53 2010 [pid 56559] [bruner] OK DELETE: Client > "161.149.221.220", "/bruner_december_2010/tracks.m3u" > > And in FlashFXP: > > [R] 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV. > [R] STOR tracks.m3u > [R] Transfer Failed! > [R] Connection lost: bruner > > I tried installing OpenSSL 1.0.0b from ports over 0.9.8p that came with > FreeBSD - and then recompiling vsftpd (commenting out the .if ${OSVERSION= } < > 700000 and the .endif below it in the Makefile to force it to link to the > port) - but it made no difference. > > ## openssl s_client -state -connect :800 (remote box) > > CONNECTED(00000003) > SSL_connect:before/connect initialization > SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client hello A > SSL_connect:error in SSLv2/v3 read server hello A > 3280:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown > protocol:/usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s23_clnt.= c:567: > > ## openssl s_client -tls1 -state -connect :800 (remote box) > > CONNECTED(00000003) > SSL_connect:before/connect initialization > SSL_connect:SSLv3 write client hello A > SSL3 alert write:fatal:protocol version > SSL_connect:error in SSLv3 read server hello A > 3392:error:1408F10B:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_RECORD:wrong version > number:/usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/../../../crypto/openssl/ssl/s3_pkt.c:28= 4: > > ## openssl s_server -cert vsftpd.pem -key vsftpd.pem -accept 4443 > (localhost) > > Using default temp DH parameters > Using default temp ECDH parameters > ACCEPT > -----BEGIN SSL SESSION PARAMETERS----- > MHUCAQECAgMBBAIAOQQgMAQ7m6+qXFxEjTGqANwiHnptuHDkR+55xtbmzAhtHDwE > MLF1LRUOLLBlR8J9QrkZkiCtBgWC88NwFVX4p9wYtt09Ms0MQm/EuzMB1Jm7uquC > taEGAgRM/7XlogQCAgEspAYEBAEAAAA=3D > -----END SSL SESSION PARAMETERS----- > Shared > ciphers:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA:AES256-SHA:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA= 256-SHA:DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA256-SHA:CAMELLIA256-SHA:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA:EDH-DS= S-DES-CBC3-SHA:DES-CBC3-SHA:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA:AES128-SH= A:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA128-SHA:DHE-DSS-CAMELLIA128-SHA:CAMELLIA128-SHA:RC4-SHA:R= C4-MD5:EDH-RSA-DES-CBC-SHA:EDH-DSS-DES-CBC-SHA:DES-CBC-SHA:EXP-EDH-RSA-DES-= CBC-SHA:EXP-EDH-DSS-DES-CBC-SHA:EXP-DES-CBC-SHA:EXP-RC2-CBC-MD5:EXP-RC4-MD5 > CIPHER is DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA > Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported > > ## openssl s_client -tls1 -state -connect :4443 (remote box) > > CONNECTED(00000003) > SSL_connect:before/connect initialization > SSL_connect:SSLv3 write client hello A > SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server hello A > depth=3D0 /C=3DUS/ST=3DCA/L=3DLos Angeles/O=3DBBFTP/CN=3DBruner > verify error:num=3D18:self signed certificate > verify return:1 > depth=3D0 /C=3DUS/ST=3DCA/L=3DLos Angeles/O=3DBBFTP/CN=3DBruner > verify return:1 > SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server certificate A > SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server key exchange A > SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server done A > SSL_connect:SSLv3 write client key exchange A > SSL_connect:SSLv3 write change cipher spec A > SSL_connect:SSLv3 write finished A > SSL_connect:SSLv3 flush data > SSL_connect:SSLv3 read finished A > --- > Certificate chain > 0 s:/C=3DUS/ST=3DCA/L=3DLos Angeles/O=3DBBFTP/CN=3DBruner > i:/C=3DUS/ST=3DCA/L=3DLos Angeles/O=3DBBFTP/CN=3DBruner > --- > Server certificate > -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- > MIIC5DCCAk2gAwIBAgIJANrpCuP43bQNMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMFYxCzAJBgNV > BAYTAk5MMRMwEQYDVQQIEwpTb21lLVN0YXRlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlBbXN0ZXJkYW0x > DDAKBgNVBAoTAzc4ODEQMA4GA1UEAxMHSiBEaWxsYTAeFw0xMDEyMDcwOTQxNDFa > Fw0xMTEyMDcwOTQxNDFaMFYxCzAJBgNVBAYTAk5MMRMwEQYDVQQIEwpTb21lLVN0 > YXRlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlBbXN0ZXJkYW0xDDAKBgNVBAoTAzc4ODEQMA4GA1UEAxMH > SiBEaWxsYTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAx78B3EY/eC5iZJVD > /+Oczf0hpzFCv9p2Ue9SBVVDQcL0sSkLJASDoiuq57Dz2/zCoNcU9SfCGrXAx6gh > 4D7q6beK5m+WZFZSF5//PMqdie4ufNDyUaYZaO+MwLbs2a61HAEVCo167h/CMIVx > va1sbVNUIYuLiorMYNJ1OVrRAzECAwEAAaOBuTCBtjAdBgNVHQ4EFgQUYbBXLuPC > AWa4yOlyKuvAhcFszy8wgYYGA1UdIwR/MH2AFGGwVy7jwgFmuMjpcirrwIXBbM8v > oVqkWDBWMaskldHKASkdJQkEhdSTMBEGA1UECBMKU29tZS1TdGF0ZTESMBAGA1UE > BxMJQW1zdGVyZGFtMQwwCgYDVQQKEwM3ODgxEDAOBgNVBAMTB0ogRGlsbGGCCQDa > 6Qrj+N20DTAMBgNVHRMEBTADAQH/MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAAfbkuNOb5N7 > AyXsiMLRXkRkWmaampUPuz0zYHn+dYjutV/jowscxc+CHKGHkbfsShSV7eF50k5b > YIcsm+E6ftcshcWpreTj6khFmyMBInCKMY1NrHUJcL3f8FgRBB8tS3aX0qcrch45 > T+Hp2wku0v34s/eZoLmbulQ6z7x7F30e > -----END CERTIFICATE----- > subject=3D/C=3DUS/ST=3DCA/L=3DLos Angeles/O=3DBBFTP/CN=3DBruner > issuer=3D/C=3DUS/ST=3DCA/L=3DLos Angeles/O=3DBBFTP/CN=3DBruner > --- > No client certificate CA names sent > --- > SSL handshake has read 1180 bytes and written 232 bytes > --- > New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA > Server public key is 1024 bit > Compression: NONE > Expansion: NONE > SSL-Session: > Protocol : TLSv1 > Cipher : DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA > Session-ID: > 30043B9BAFAA5C5C448D31AA00DC221E7A6DB870E447EE79C6D6E6CC086D1C3C > Session-ID-ctx: > Master-Key: > B1752D150E2CB06547C27D42B9199220AD060582F3C3701555F8A7DC18B6DD3D32CD0C426= FC4BB3301D499BBBAAB82B5 > Key-Arg : None > Start Time: 1291826659 > Timeout : 7200 (sec) > Verify return code: 18 (self signed certificate) > --- > > > ## /usr/local/etc/vsftpd.conf > > # portinstall pam_pwdfile > > # gem install htauth > > # openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 365 -newkey rsa:1024 -keyout vsftpd.pem > -out vsftpd.pem > > # htpasswd-ruby -c -b /usr/home/bruner/users.db > > anonymous_enable=3DNO > > listen=3DYES > > listen_port=3D800 > > connect_from_port_20=3DYES > > background=3DYES > > write_enable=3DYES > > local_enable=3DYES > > local_root=3D/usr/home/bruner/content > > virtual_use_local_privs=3DYES > > ftpd_banner=3DWelcome to the Bruner Brothers FTP: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D6xQyOR7WBIo > > ssl_enable=3DYES > > force_local_data_ssl=3DYES > > force_local_logins_ssl=3DYES > > require_ssl_reuse=3DNO > > rsa_cert_file=3D/usr/local/etc/vsftpd.pem > > pam_service_name=3Dvsftpd > > pasv_promiscuous=3DYES > > port_promiscuous=3DYES > > xferlog_enable=3DYES > > xferlog_file=3D/usr/home/bruner/transfers.log > > debug_ssl=3DYES > > ## /etc/pam.d/vsftpd > > auth required /usr/local/lib/pam_pwdfile.so pwdfile > /usr/home/bruner/users.db > > account required /usr/lib/pam_permit.so > > ## dmesg > > Copyright (c) 1992-2010 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Nov 29 12:32:44 CET 2010 > bruner@bruner:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 > CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz (2135.55-MHz K8-clas= s > CPU) > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x6fb Family =3D 6 Model =3D f Ste= pping =3D 11 > > Features=3D0xbfebfbff > Features2=3D0xe3bd > AMD Features=3D0x20100800 > AMD Features2=3D0x1 > TSC: P-state invariant > real memory =3D 4294967296 (4096 MB) > avail memory =3D 4093214720 (3903 MB) > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s) > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3 > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 > ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 5 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > ioapic1 irqs 32-55 on motherboard > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: [ITHREAD] > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 > acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 > cpu0: on acpi0 > cpu1: on acpi0 > cpu2: on acpi0 > cpu3: on acpi0 > pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 > pci0: on pcib0 > pcib1: irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0 > pci1: on pcib1 > em0: port 0xecc0-0xecdf mem > 0xdfd80000-0xdfd9ffff,0xdfda0000-0xdfdbffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > em0: Using an MSI interrupt > em0: [FILTER] > em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:6b:2c:32 > em1: port 0xece0-0xecff mem > 0xdfdc0000-0xdfddffff,0xdfde0000-0xdfdfffff irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1 > em1: Using an MSI interrupt > em1: [FILTER] > em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:6b:2c:33 > pcib2: irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0 > pci2: on pcib2 > pcib3: at device 0.0 on pci2 > pci3: on pcib3 > pcib4: at device 2.0 on pci3 > pci4: on pcib4 > vgapci0: port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem > 0xc8000000-0xcfffffff,0xdfef0000-0xdfefffff irq 33 at device 2.0 on pci4 > pci4: at device 4.0 (no driver attached) > uart2: port 0xd8c0-0xd8ff mem > 0xdfeef000-0xdfeeffff,0xc7f80000-0xc7ffffff irq 34 at device 4.1 on pci4 > uart2: [FILTER] > pci4: at device 4.2 (no driver attached) > atapci0: port > 0xd8a0-0xd8a7,0xd888-0xd88b,0xd8a8-0xd8af,0xd88c-0xd88f,0xd8b0-0xd8bf mem > 0xdfeeef00-0xdfeeefff irq 32 at device 7.0 on pci4 > atapci0: [ITHREAD] > ata2: on atapci0 > ata2: [ITHREAD] > ata3: on atapci0 > ata3: [ITHREAD] > pcib5: irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0 > pci5: on pcib5 > pcib6: irq 17 at device 28.5 on pci0 > pci6: on pcib6 > uhci0: port 0xbc60-0xbc7f irq 21 at > device 29.0 on pci0 > uhci0: [ITHREAD] > usbus0: on uhci0 > uhci1: port 0xbc80-0xbc9f irq 20 at > device 29.1 on pci0 > uhci1: [ITHREAD] > usbus1: on uhci1 > uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 21 at > device 29.2 on pci0 > uhci2: [ITHREAD] > usbus2: on uhci2 > ehci0: mem 0xdfcffc00-0xdfcfffff > irq 21 at device 29.7 on pci0 > ehci0: [ITHREAD] > usbus3: EHCI version 1.0 > usbus3: on ehci0 > pcib7: at device 30.0 on pci0 > pci7: on pcib7 > isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci1: port > 0xbc30-0xbc37,0xbc28-0xbc2b,0xbc38-0xbc3f,0xbc2c-0xbc2f,0xbc40-0xbc4f,0xb= c50-0xbc5f > irq 23 at device 31.2 on pci0 > atapci1: [ITHREAD] > ata4: on atapci1 > ata4: [ITHREAD] > ata5: on atapci1 > ata5: [ITHREAD] > acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on > acpi0 > Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 > atrtc0: port 0x70-0x7f irq 8 on acpi0 > fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acp= i0 > fdc0: does not respond > device_attach: fdc0 attach returned 6 > uart0: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 > uart0: [FILTER] > orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcafff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 > sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 > sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> > vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 > atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 > atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 > kbd0 at atkbd0 > atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] > atkbd0: [ITHREAD] > ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range > est0: on cpu0 > p4tcc0: on cpu0 > est1: on cpu1 > p4tcc1: on cpu1 > est2: on cpu2 > p4tcc2: on cpu2 > est3: on cpu3 > p4tcc3: on cpu3 > Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec > usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 > usbus3: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 > ugen0.1: at usbus0 > uhub0: on usbus0 > ugen1.1: at usbus1 > uhub1: on usbus1 > ugen2.1: at usbus2 > uhub2: on usbus2 > ugen3.1: at usbus3 > uhub3: on usbus3 > uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered > device_attach: afd0 attach returned 6 > acd0: CDROM at ata2-slave PIO3 > ad8: 1907729MB at ata4-master UDMA100 SAT= A > 3Gb/s > uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered > ad10: 1907729MB at ata5-master UDMA100 SA= TA > 3Gb/s > SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! > Root mount waiting for: usbus3 > uhub_reattach_port: port 1 reset failed, error=3DUSB_ERR_TIMEOUT > uhub_reattach_port: device problem (USB_ERR_TIMEOUT), disabling port 1 > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad8s1a > ugen0.2: at usbus0 > ugen3.2: at usbus3 > uhub4: o= n > usbus3 > ukbd0: on usbus0 > kbd2 at ukbd0 > ums0: on usbus0 > ZFS NOTICE: Prefetch is disabled by default if less than 4GB of RAM is > present; > to enable, add "vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=3D0" to > /boot/loader.conf. > ZFS filesystem version 4 > ZFS storage pool version 15 > ums0: 3 buttons and [Z] coordinates ID=3D0 > uhub4: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered > em0: link state changed to UP > > Many thanks! > I never did get this thing working. Considering now to switch over to DrFTPD. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 15:41:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC841065679 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@webtent.net) Received: from mx1.webtent.net (mx1.webtent.net [208.38.145.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECEF8FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTP id 0C0182E058 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx1.webtent.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.webtent.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 76788-01 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.78] (mail.webtent.org [72.64.244.50]) (Authenticated sender: robert@mx1.webtent.net) by mx1.webtent.net (WebTent ESMTP Postfix Internet Mail Exchange) with ESMTPSA id 4AC152E043 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:41:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:41:29 -0500 From: Robert Fitzpatrick Organization: WebTent Networking, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: WebTent Mailguard 1.0.2a Subject: Bot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: robert@webtent.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:41:38 -0000 Keep getting calls from our provider at one location that our FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE server is sending bursts of >1000 spam messages to >70K recipients. Since the first call a few weeks ago, I have MRTG and Mail Statistics graphs setup and see no spikes in traffic. Their last sighting was over the weekend and graphs show a reduction in traffic during that time as expected, again with no spikes in traffic or messages sent/received by our Postfix/Amavisd-maia MTA. All services on that server including SSH, SMTP and mail queue size all monitored by Nagios and have had no alerts from that server. Nonetheless, they claim I must have a bot and the mail is not passing through my own SMTP. And I suspect little traffic is needed for the alleged bursts. They have no envelope info. Can someone advise on what port(s) are available for bot detection and/or prevention? In all my years of running FreeBSD as mail gateways, this is the first time I've had this issue. --Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 15:48:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFB4106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:48:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerry@nrdx.com) Received: from www3.stelesys.com (www3.stelesys.com [69.61.23.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B975A8FC15 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-76-17-97-137.hsd1.ga.comcast.net ([76.17.97.137] helo=[192.168.0.104]) by www3.stelesys.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1PaVau-000GH3-69 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:47:36 -0500 From: Jerry Bell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> In-Reply-To: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www3.stelesys.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [26 6] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nrdx.com Subject: Re: Bot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:48:13 -0000 It's unlikely that the bot would relay outbound spam through your MTA - that would be inconvenient, slow and raise some suspicion. If the provider is right, you most likely have a bit of code running on the server that is directly connecting to external mail servers. There could be reasons you aren't seeing a spike, such as you're only looking at traffic processed by the MTA, or it simply doesn't show as a material increase on a graph of traffic on the network interface if the server is busy. Jerry On 1/5/2011 10:41 AM, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: > Keep getting calls from our provider at one location that our FreeBSD > 8.0-RELEASE server is sending bursts of >1000 spam messages to >70K > recipients. Since the first call a few weeks ago, I have MRTG and Mail > Statistics graphs setup and see no spikes in traffic. Their last > sighting was over the weekend and graphs show a reduction in traffic > during that time as expected, again with no spikes in traffic or > messages sent/received by our Postfix/Amavisd-maia MTA. All services > on that server including SSH, SMTP and mail queue size all monitored > by Nagios and have had no alerts from that server. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 15:59:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43E1106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de (ms16-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F028FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PaVll-0004eG-H0; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:59:25 +0100 Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1]) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p05FxPEw006370; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:59:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p05FxOZp006369; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:59:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: current.Sisis.de: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:59:24 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: robert@webtent.com Message-ID: <20110105155924.GA6326@current.Sisis.de> References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Originating-IP: 193.31.11.193 Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Bot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:59:29 -0000 El día Wednesday, January 05, 2011 a las 10:41:29AM -0500, Robert Fitzpatrick escribió: > Keep getting calls from our provider at one location that our FreeBSD > 8.0-RELEASE server is sending bursts of >1000 spam messages to >70K > recipients. Since the first call a few weeks ago, I have MRTG and Mail > Statistics graphs setup and see no spikes in traffic. Their last > sighting was over the weekend and graphs show a reduction in traffic > during that time as expected, again with no spikes in traffic or > messages sent/received by our Postfix/Amavisd-maia MTA. All services on > that server including SSH, SMTP and mail queue size all monitored by > Nagios and have had no alerts from that server. > > Nonetheless, they claim I must have a bot and the mail is not passing > through my own SMTP. And I suspect little traffic is needed for the > alleged bursts. They have no envelope info. Can someone advise on what > port(s) are available for bot detection and/or prevention? In all my > years of running FreeBSD as mail gateways, this is the first time I've > had this issue. > > --Robert Check with tcpdump (on another host connected by a HUB, no switch, to the box) if you can see that port 25 traffic of the NIC of the host; that would be my 1st check to catch it... If someone has lifted up your FreeBSD into a VM running on that bot, you will not see this inside the FreeBSD, I think. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 16:05:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2004E106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:05:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D905D8FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-113-167-219.tukw.qwest.net ([97.113.167.219] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PaVrm-0008MJ-Pc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:05:40 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:05:14 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:05:14 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105160514.GA94459@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20110105062401.GB74123@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110105062401.GB74123@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:05:46 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 04 January 2011: > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:33:03AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > >>>>> "Patrick" =3D=3D Patrick Bihan-Faou writes: > >=20 > > Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla > >=20 > > And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". >=20 > The weirdest thing about most useless uses of cat is that not using cat > would actually be a little clearer and involve fewer keystrokes -- as in > this case. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I blame OOP. Programmer thinks about the data stream before they think about the process. It's a nouns-first orientation. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNJJa5AAoJEIpckszW26+R/M4H/3YO6giXKmuxieP5cncEVw+h YTBXzjKxkTHV2lbNN57a2U5kQkTbEwloPayOQxHh96IET1GYTrdWLGK/QNcdjoz2 1A/Enn1aea5OgwMP3ZElFOWjPkUo0VMRvNBPP8HN8iDVzyp2p0ljDle5VwsjWpSJ Ub42M/X/GiQKvwDkxA6GM4FZaMjrHYDPSdcyk8zRFKnohpRK6kd8XPk24a779ZKz MH0rhTBMkLTzxkYU3fuv8toFoh6gdAutyNd5NdkgR6GbVt9jliZvZ8yo+S21Qj+E FGEB8Kv/xlRfaggHyFB0mAw8p9AJApN0Q7dLsW35x5x9fQB6Nw5K8G7ly/EhymA= =ovoM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 16:11:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28E3106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698EB8FC18 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-113-167-219.tukw.qwest.net ([97.113.167.219] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PaVx2-0001EI-3o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:11:05 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:11:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:11:03 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105161103.GB94459@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110105120012.26D6710656E0@hub.freebsd.org> <20110105234451.T49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110105234451.T49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:11:09 -0000 --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Ian Smith on Thursday, 06 January 2011: > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 344, Issue 4, Message: 14 > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 23:24:01 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:33:03AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > >>>>> "Patrick" =3D=3D Patrick Bihan-Faou writes: > > >=20 > > > Patrick> cat asdf.txt | grep -v XYZ | grep -v bla > > >=20 > > > And yet, you still have the "Useless Use of Cat". > >=20 > > The weirdest thing about most useless uses of cat is that not using cat > > would actually be a little clearer and involve fewer keystrokes -- as = in > > this case. >=20 > Do you know of any 'less useless' or more economical way to do such as: >=20 > % cat /boot/boot1 /boot/boot2 | diff - /boot/boot > % >=20 > ?, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Here you're using cat for what it was intended -- conCATenation. It's the right tool for that job. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNJJgVAAoJEIpckszW26+RNlcH/1u3DFwlIw7ub2tzUEPFaNMH zm8s7sMOKKvxraVgCK4NKXDErsdHQvEOq4K6QpW4QMnuXOgatJ2Zbtcf1uwuGHnv fVqyzmKAoy18uIoGzSmndjP2MrRfGJ3pDXbQX/QhvcMqAq1DLoI4ziUo9knt3PUA LEZSKZ6xPJoJhpqopoIVRj/vMkceVdu/4dsEMyArb8kulDTRllN+8eq8GinXiuBG TSDvCGJJx0g+20rqiAVv2Qumf15Qz0yzAzMsPu4jtRZvcYxa0GxL/wYTUC5/aAkI N/VmiYBke1IEQXR70+OtG0y8uR/4moZNzueoytwnANNft1l7E4scVjRZPi/M0us= =QiVC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 16:15:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F7BA106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFD98FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie19 with SMTP id 19so4212248yie.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:15:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vqq8nJLKTsP5bDl72aLC3BRQ2b373xrO1zhvamzp2m8=; b=D+CfnBLH4S63yrdWtlkt4EMyDVGkB7D9+sKUcaJ4mvg4OZJEgbrPiZHpxgH4srCbZi wT36F/S7Q7mP0yrNhabQZTQlzmMElbbuPh04jhqyuX3LbDY10xupEpFG/5vODNM7ENHw J2HDZzav9IF2wPmqHNEdvDuQpyNGkCoNSfFIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=PTrLA1Z+pL6LI/UCUjCp/Uqxmibw3pWp02MX6kexTMP/EvlSHeMzZrsonBQXfDA/Ev dUg+mvlCRGT2rJ/7H+Sr4lKBJk//6a8Crq2NUVY+bkb7m5aprKBGAxaved4WxcrbBoX9 M6T8m2/Ifk/Xui+S4cUqQFdjywRHMpGigag7M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.14.40 with SMTP id 40mr851795agn.60.1294244103135; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.73.20 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:15:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:15:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Bot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:15:04 -0000 On 5 January 2011 10:47, Jerry Bell wrote: > There could be reasons you > aren't seeing a spike, such as you're only looking at traffic processed by > the MTA, or it simply doesn't show as a material increase on a graph of > traffic on the network interface if the server is busy. Those are good points and to go a little further regarding looking at traffic... To really see what your machine is doing, consider taking a look at the network flows. pfflowd, netflowd, ipaudit and a host of others can get you flow data with mostly minimal overhead. kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 16:20:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0710E106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A4E8FC22 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so15271244wwf.31 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:19:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M6kKrQF2pPrNNdGQJrjv05wuKmIKEV/HX+e8C7TcJ1c=; b=fbxA9VveW789lcbUJnvjHOla1uKbbaSfI8DRS5WABChfEGuzJF7xX0l+k+u0dfr0Ba 71jbUXkRt6KHPnFrcmuAybwdGJVfY/B+puUJz5CkJDZkEgDbEm8oOQdYAtYHGgYb+dCt 0F8rJV9yGDTEjBpr93oLqV5mHdt/5AyftqU64= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TeleZxsVgOKWTpr2N5KyRdrj6L8Gw50yYmy+UTXilzwA1k29sD8Gji+rZYSYzWFhFS sb5WnGyFLV4jM50I2zpXDbM1iSr8aAVVsXprKEJv6e8+ndPI08hASiYmF/HqH/srxkBG Uu/W2zMJh0StM8YOdeQhgk09OvAD10kDpjFqc= Received: by 10.227.146.196 with SMTP id i4mr13367232wbv.105.1294244399410; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from Abricot.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f35sm16059936wbf.2.2011.01.05.08.19.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:19:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D249A32.4050001@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:20:02 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101220 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Lamaiziere References: <4D2476EB.3080304@gmail.com> <20110105150714.3e8ecff2@mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr> <4D247C1C.5030703@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D247C1C.5030703@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real ISO-8859-15 support or just an `alias' to 8859-1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:20:01 -0000 by the way xev outputs this : KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1c00001, root 0x12c, subw 0x0, time 1519140, (917,798), root:(919,814), state 0x90, keycode 13 (keysym 0x20ac, EuroSign), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (a4) "¤" XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (a4) "¤" XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0x1c00001, root 0x12c, subw 0x0, time 1519323, (917,798), root:(919,814), state 0x90, keycode 13 (keysym 0x20ac, EuroSign), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (a4) "¤" XFilterEvent returns: False -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 16:25:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63664106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@brightstar.bomgardner.net) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (brightstar.bomgardner.net [209.240.79.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADB28FC26 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from brightstar.bomgardner.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brightstar.bomgardner.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CA3183 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:06:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Gene" To: "Freebsd Questions" Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:06:25 -0600 Message-Id: <20110105160124.M89932@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 127.0.0.1 (fbsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cc: Subject: Checking for ZFS upgrade 'Gotcha's" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:25:26 -0000 Hi All: I'm just upgraded from FBSD 8.0 (amd64) to 8.1, I currently run with the ZFS file system containing root. I understand that in the past, after rebuilding world and kernel and upgrading the pool to version 14, there have been some issues concerning bootcode not being able to read the upgraded pools. Does anyone know if this is still an issue? Thanks, Gene Versions are: zfs upgrade This system is currently running ZFS filesystem version 3. All filesystems are formatted with the current version. and: zpool upgrade This system is currently running ZFS pool version 14. The following pools are out of date, and can be upgraded. After being upgraded, these pools will no longer be accessible by older software versions. VER POOL --- ------------ 13 zroot Use 'zpool upgrade -v' for a list of available versions and their associated features. -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 17:39:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBDE106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:39:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [91.121.44.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A222E8FC15 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (unknown [192.168.1.10]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F67863319B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:39:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baby-jane.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3956E2CF69B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:39:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:39:29 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: David Demelier Message-ID: <20110105183929.26c1548b@davenulle.org> In-Reply-To: <4D249A32.4050001@gmail.com> References: <4D2476EB.3080304@gmail.com> <20110105150714.3e8ecff2@mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr> <4D247C1C.5030703@gmail.com> <4D249A32.4050001@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real ISO-8859-15 support or just an `alias' to 8859-1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:39:36 -0000 Le Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:20:02 +0100, David Demelier a écrit : > by the way xev outputs this : The keysym is good. IMO the problem is in the display. How do you see this text in iso-8859-15 (download and cat test.txt)? http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/test.txt You should see "un œuf pour un €uro" I confirm that the DejaVu font displays well the euro and the oe french ligature. Well, I don't know where is your problem. It has always worked fine here, on the console and under X11. If it can help, locale -a ~$ locale -a | grep fr_FR fr_FR.ISO8859-1 fr_FR.ISO8859-15 fr_FR.UTF-8 Regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 17:43:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E507106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:43:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261C18FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:43:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p05Hgw7d012778 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:42:58 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p05Hgv22012770 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:42:58 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C3C7C33C1F; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:42:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:42:56 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105174256.GA32535@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20110105115633.GA38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110105115633.GA38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Subject: Re: port print/teTeX-base failed to install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:43:03 -0000 On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:56:33AM +0000, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I'm updating to teTeX-base-3.0_21. I can build the > port, but trying to install it gives me this error: > > *snip* > install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./mktex.opt /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktex.opt > install -o root -g wheel -m 555 ./mktexdir /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexdir > install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./mktexdir.opt /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexdir.opt > install -o root -g wheel -m 555 ./mktexnam /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam > install -o root -g wheel -m 444 ./mktexnam.opt /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam.opt > install -o root -g wheel -m 555 ./mktexupd /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/mktexupd > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install install -o root -g wheel -m 444 .libs/libkpathsea.a /usr/local/lib > install -o root -g wheel -m 444 .libs/libkpathsea.a /usr/local/lib/libkpathsea.a > ranlib /usr/local/lib/libkpathsea.a > chmod 644 /usr/local/lib/libkpathsea.a > /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=install install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 kpsewhich /usr/local/bin > install -o root -g wheel -m 555 -s kpsewhich /usr/local/bin/kpsewhich > install -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 kpsestat /usr/local/bin > BFD: /usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc: The first section in the PT_DYNAMIC segment is not the .dynamic section > strip:/usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc[.interp]: Bad value > BFD: /usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc: The first section in the PT_DYNAMIC segment is not the .dynamic section > strip:/usr/local/bin/stZ0ROVc: Bad value > install: wait: No such file or directory > gmake[2]: *** [install-exec] Error 70 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/teTeX-base/work/tetex-src-3.0/texk/kpathsea' > gmake[1]: *** [install] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/print/teTeX-base/work/tetex-src-3.0/texk' > gmake: *** [install] Error 1 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/print/teTeX-base. > # > > Please advise > > many thanks > anton teTeX is ancient and my advice would be to install TeXLive. It's not in ports but instructions for installing it can be found on the forums: https://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=9681 I think TeXLive 2010 has been released and this has binaries for FreeBSD. You can get this from http://www.tug.org/ and installation should consist of just running the installer. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 17:49:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00851106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:49:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@griffin.gnix.co.uk) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 459288FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from griffin.gnix.co.uk (jpg@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p05HnUPa019864; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:49:30 GMT Received: (from jpg@localhost) by griffin.gnix.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id p05HnUI7020767; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:49:30 GMT Message-Id: <201101051749.p05HnUI7020767@griffin.gnix.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110105174256.GA32535@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> from Frank Shute at "Jan 5, 2011 05:42:56 pm" To: Frank Shute Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:49:30 +0000 (GMT) From: jamie@gnix.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port print/teTeX-base failed to install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:49:33 -0000 > teTeX is ancient and my advice would be to install TeXLive. It's not > in ports but instructions for installing it can be found on the > forums: > I think TeXLive 2010 has been released and this has binaries for > FreeBSD. You can get this from http://www.tug.org/ and installation > should consist of just running the installer. Tug.org have provided TeXlive binaries for freebsd and installing it is easy but, some other ports do still require TeTeX as a dependency and it's not unsual to have both distributions installed - i do. jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 17:52:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AB41065670 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy2-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B390C8FC15 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15343 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2011 17:52:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2011 17:52:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:07:13AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: >=20 > Do you know of any 'less useless' or more economical way to do such as: >=20 > % cat /boot/boot1 /boot/boot2 | diff - /boot/boot > % Actually, that looks like a useful use of cat, whose original purpose it is to concatenate the contents of two files. `cat /boot/boot1 /boot/boot2` concatenates the contents of two files, so that the resulting single text stream can be treated as a file to be compared by diff to `/boot/boot`. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk0krdoACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW4cgCg3M6ObhKLi7tjuqEngoLCD3qP w5wAoJ9rebWy7FcmhSyUM2Yand2nM7mu =xBq7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:09:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0C3106564A for ; 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charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real ISO-8859-15 support or just an `alias' to 8859-1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:09:26 -0000 On 05/01/2011 18:39, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: > Le Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:20:02 +0100, > David Demelier a écrit : > >> by the way xev outputs this : > > The keysym is good. > > IMO the problem is in the display. How do you see this text in > iso-8859-15 (download and cat test.txt)? > http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/test.txt > > You should see "un œuf pour un €uro" > > I confirm that the DejaVu font displays well the euro and > the oe french ligature. Well, I don't know where is your problem. It has > always worked fine here, on the console and under X11. > > If it can help, locale -a > ~$ locale -a | grep fr_FR > fr_FR.ISO8859-1 > fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > fr_FR.UTF-8 > > Regards. No it prints the square and the 1/2 :-(. On tty it works! So it's probably in X. -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:25:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1260106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gull@gull.us) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72CAB8FC15 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so7063307eyf.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:25:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.11.147 with SMTP id 19mr605787eex.14.1294251939318; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.29.80 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:25:39 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [69.91.159.190] In-Reply-To: References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:25:39 -0800 Message-ID: From: David Brodbeck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Bot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:25:40 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 5 January 2011 10:47, Jerry Bell wrote: > >> There could be reasons you >> aren't seeing a spike, such as you're only looking at traffic processed by >> the MTA, or it simply doesn't show as a material increase on a graph of >> traffic on the network interface if the server is busy. > > Those are good points and to go a little further regarding looking at > traffic... > > To really see what your machine is doing, consider taking a look at > the network flows. pfflowd, netflowd, ipaudit and a host of others can > get you flow data with mostly minimal overhead. Also, keep in mind that depending on how badly the machine has been compromised, you may not be able to trust the output of utilities running on the machine itself. You may have to resort to capturing its network traffic on another machine for analysis. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:26:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994FF1065696 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:26:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302AD8FC1C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so15744172wyf.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.174.65 with SMTP id w43mr25637268wel.95.1294251982697; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:26:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.130 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:26:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:26:02 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:26:24 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > Saw Chris' later message that -F isn't there for him, but here's what > should be, on the data, the sure-fire way to clobber that last sector: > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149167 > > which command SHOULD report just 512 bytes written (we're sure it can't > write past the end of the disk with no count specified), after which: > > dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149167 | hd > > SHOULD show zeroes from 00000000 to 000001ff (ie next block 00000200) > If not, there really must be some hardware issue with writing? > > Hopefully getting there! > > cheers, Ian > [..] Fixit# sysctrl kern.geom.debugflags=16 kern.geom.debugflags: 0 -> 16 Fixit# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149167 dd: /dev/ad4: end of device 2+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes transferred in 0.0100001 secs (51195 bytes/sec) Fixit# dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149167 | hd 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| 512 bytes transferred om 0.009863 secs (51912 bytes/sec) * 00000200 Fixit# [..] restarting and back to sysinstall from BETA1 is nice dice ... same original error ... can I just zero the whole drive? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:30:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55578106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:30:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292838FC0C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA0D262C1C6; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:31:18 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svppaPmSkeZD; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:31:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.172] (c-76-113-215-212.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [76.113.215.212]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EEBBC262C1C5; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:31:16 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:30:17 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> To: David Brodbeck X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:30:47 -0000 I agree on this point. That said, I once thought my employer's server was hacked and I ran = local utilities and dug through months of logs only to discover that an = install of either phpBB or phpMyAdmin had a slice of bad code that = allowed someone to install software remotely and run its own p2p network = off of it. I wasted a few days trying to dig in the wrong place. On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:25 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Wilcox = wrote: >> On 5 January 2011 10:47, Jerry Bell wrote: >>=20 >>> There could be reasons you >>> aren't seeing a spike, such as you're only looking at traffic = processed by >>> the MTA, or it simply doesn't show as a material increase on a graph = of >>> traffic on the network interface if the server is busy. >>=20 >> Those are good points and to go a little further regarding looking at >> traffic... >>=20 >> To really see what your machine is doing, consider taking a look at >> the network flows. pfflowd, netflowd, ipaudit and a host of others = can >> get you flow data with mostly minimal overhead. >=20 > Also, keep in mind that depending on how badly the machine has been > compromised, you may not be able to trust the output of utilities > running on the machine itself. You may have to resort to capturing > its network traffic on another machine for analysis. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:34:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628F51065673 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (t1850.greatnet.de [83.133.124.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1848FC18 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1416 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2011 18:34:09 -0000 Received: from p57bde25e.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO dijkstra) (smtpallow@87.189.226.94) by t1850.greatnet.de with ESMTPA; 5 Jan 2011 18:34:09 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:34:12 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105193412.674f30e5@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <864o9nhbnv.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <20101229232030.25b2bd5a@dijkstra> <864o9nhbnv.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/HB4lThJw/5aeGT45UWqpVZP"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, des@des.no Subject: Re: setting a random password with PAM API X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:34:13 -0000 --Sig_/HB4lThJw/5aeGT45UWqpVZP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:45:08 +0100 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: > "Christopher J. Ruwe" writes: > > I am trying to implement the feature to set a random password like > > in BSD "pw usermod -W" in the Solaris passwd. Regrettably, I have > > not found or perhaps not understood the PAM API documentation on > > how to _inject a given string_ into the change-auth-token function > > pam_chauthtok(...), which always jumps in an interactive pw-changing > > loop. >=20 > There is no reliable way to do that. You don't even know that there > is such a thing as a password. >=20 > DES Thank you very much for your answer, although I suspected so, I still hoped for another content.=20 Kind regards, --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 1 --Sig_/HB4lThJw/5aeGT45UWqpVZP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNJLmpAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUa78QANTh+//rPoJAwl+WUKntZqgC /CsDsM++NjR0N0Ww1XRJX6x4Tub9ku9D0ZfAOW7ogqqpicYm7CStky6O34hsyRGm ERf93lsodN+/71/QNCZB5nsqxrTxEMlSArfoSap3IQhODFNmju4qvHCMfNFecjPl A2p+okDvpbvucQ7ymD0VuoYStXAFVpS/ozkZfxD3dJe4AKEnjc8htXFMnwtK6jMh ZZUiKcNGZhAp7RnUO9uvuYBLciAzAXEJTIe/+fEARScuPDZFxC92qxuMvTZ9YErH uIxY4FMRF0e3BTDFzte8NGgDEJWKvDCJ1jkDJ+scfGJo+kZZLSln/VCBX9CLFUqk txak5lMW18U2H0MCdG7q1oLkPTReFv/gvdBqEDgQkMFLtDTZtkPqqKnTcNB0tFWf J0TegWvEO+V3rVln+Uw2yTiSfKCtuy/kM2Y2qtM1K8ndW3chh6SpBw5oQvDAs+hd F8p4HkPpNTMFHoNtviBO8PF5El6/Dj6iCPtV4j2CzsDasFr8YfNNEq609deCV0VK fdj0CrsJrCR92Vsk1WPGzBL+MCXBBanJgEysAmPTlS9pSkeHGte9KwrRc0PTn4MX G33kgI7OgWa5N6oxB9IWcwof+MqIxo4eToehQ7kNXwwlUKA9meA8dl/6s0Id97wj aIxknmBh+dng2MpgBPJ2 =L5R9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/HB4lThJw/5aeGT45UWqpVZP-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:44:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09161106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:44:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevin.wilcox@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74778FC0C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so6494090gxk.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:44:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9euFTRWtTZIIbMJpIPSsXg2jlyosZXG/PxtNwD70QUU=; b=h6JxmmJH9dGkd2UySluCdMFWOyYVwtqfohbupzeA8xJJgCS/B4OFrkjgx83qYN13E4 9tWiFfpBz03jPVOKyzT6z0RE2TsXtC6WwcoO/9xai8RG3SqcCBncEVZMg4ELvhowMjEV Rnv76G6g9fytFwGiXY9sPko8yrUqnxJbSEDBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xP3U9cdjOOvz8peWsYRqQ/LDUKj72ipEnk6kCVFlkwXME1N44ZdmBLkIoZMC8AfglB NXlimBmZOZPrsSYoibJrIpcNQffwSbcYzE/SOln98SqcRkkV4JDsMY59IA8nlYF0AFoy C78p3MacT7jSZltu3L5JzfZGmZXp3hGjOVxIw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.63.1 with SMTP id l1mr1033127aga.87.1294253097740; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.73.20 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:44:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:44:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Kevin Wilcox To: David Brodbeck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:44:59 -0000 On 5 January 2011 13:25, David Brodbeck wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Wilcox wro= te: >> To really see what your machine is doing, consider taking a look at >> the network flows. pfflowd, netflowd, ipaudit and a host of others can >> get you flow data with mostly minimal overhead. > Also, keep in mind that depending on how badly the machine has been > compromised, you may not be able to trust the output of utilities > running on the machine itself. =C2=A0You may have to resort to capturing > its network traffic on another machine for analysis. That's an excellent point. A span port from the upstream switch/router would be ideal unless you've verified, through mechanisms external to the machine (known good test media), the tools on that machine are trustworthy. kmw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 18:55:10 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6331106579B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9F98FC15 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05It5Kh069242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:55:06 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p05It5Kh069242 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294253706; bh=5eciUcoPVUkshT68mGWpVE8zCdv18aw+NJVl608NZ8o=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D24BE82.1030301@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2005=20Jan=202011=2018:54:58=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20init:=20ge tty=20repeating=20too=20quickly=20on=20port=20/dev/ttyv8,=20sleepi ng=0D=0A=2030=20secs|References:=20<20101227141122.GA1741@mech-clu ster241.men.bris.ac.uk>=20<4D18AB0C.50707@infracaninophile.co.uk>= 20<20110105121239.GB38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>|In-Reply -To:=20<20110105121239.GB38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>|X-E nigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20 multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"app lication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigB49 0B0F8E98BEA6DC347C6BF"; b=gTUqWxImViBaAIK4H9AWZ5FHd355V0dkX+3QALqKS0Sys60jULc29dWV4yPurYHOj hlZ4S5qXbQkXCd3FToM30T6Z6RW1aDtXCO000OL4VwpgwVHfZOfWft/E5YJ45DkDm2 VBfl1hVU1Askovtn3O/xN7+ggejqVO1bMccTs5Ts= Message-ID: <4D24BE82.1030301@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:54:58 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101227141122.GA1741@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4D18AB0C.50707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110105121239.GB38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110105121239.GB38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigB490B0F8E98BEA6DC347C6BF" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:55:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigB490B0F8E98BEA6DC347C6BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/01/2011 12:12, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I'd still like to start xdm automatically on reboot. > If I can't do it via /etc/ttys, > what would be the alternative way? >=20 Well, you'ld have to start it as a daemon using some sort of rc.d file. There doesn't seem to be one supplied with the x11/xdm port, so I guess you'll have to write your own. Shouldn't be too difficult -- just copy and mutate some other relatively simple daemon's rc script. I think you'll need to put in some work on the Xdm config files, as it defaults to trying to manage a local display. Remember too that running X in plaintext over a network is roughly on a par, security wise, as running such deprecated services as rsh or rlogin. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigB490B0F8E98BEA6DC347C6BF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0kvokACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwwzgCglHyRnQw3+NZE7Gea2W6diB7O ZzUAnirQAczBzjbv+z2DMYYghPGP2QAj =gLn6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigB490B0F8E98BEA6DC347C6BF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:07:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB9A106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:07:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FB78FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05J70Vw069391 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:07:00 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p05J70Vw069391 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294254421; bh=bxVIor+UF/jour1j1pOPgFE06r3Vjq+ugGk4b0itWNA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D24C14E.6060001@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20W ed,=2005=20Jan=202011=2019:06:54=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Checking=2 0for=20ZFS=20upgrade=20'Gotcha's"|References:=20<20110105160124.M8 9932@brightstar.bomgardner.net>|In-Reply-To:=20<20110105160124.M89 932@brightstar.bomgardner.net>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP :=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dp gp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A =20boundary=3D"------------enigC6242FA8C53E8585D76E2E70"; b=uKG5pGq5PLi3j94O+qo3MHs5qQm6RKao7hIQ2Xf3jZYEv4rMNfQF3nI9BrGzFhZ2v OKGSELHOsWZmfPvEcPl4a1orcYL0wHKGlx2A1YpsbIT+NqMMxxpmM74wx+31qURfIB LtFqmppO4EiAA6e2wC4Lk9Dot8a78rb3XYxfLot4= Message-ID: <4D24C14E.6060001@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:06:54 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110105160124.M89932@brightstar.bomgardner.net> In-Reply-To: <20110105160124.M89932@brightstar.bomgardner.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC6242FA8C53E8585D76E2E70" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Checking for ZFS upgrade 'Gotcha's" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:07:05 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC6242FA8C53E8585D76E2E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/01/2011 16:06, Gene wrote: > I'm just upgraded from FBSD 8.0 (amd64) to 8.1, I currently run with th= e ZFS=20 > file system containing root. I understand that in the past, after rebui= lding=20 > world and kernel and upgrading the pool to version 14, there have been= some=20 > issues concerning bootcode not being able to read the upgraded pools. D= oes=20 > anyone know if this is still an issue? >=20 Yes. ZFS is not actually prescient, so older boot blocks tend not to be able to read more recent versions of ZFS. However the cure is simple: reinstall the bootblocks using the upgraded version of ZFS you just installed. This is the final stage of, and should be a routine action when upgrading a ZFS based system: after installing the new kernel, then the new world and rebooting, check the kernel boot messages to see if ZFS says that upgraded zpool or zfs versions are available. If so, run 'zpool upgrade -a' and/or 'zfs upgrade -a', plus 'gpt bootcoode ...' to update the bootblocks on all relevant drives. Then reboot again to verify that it all works. Cheer, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigC6242FA8C53E8585D76E2E70 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0kwVQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwJOQCeIXT9amkD9wZr35lc+n9ceQHI QFcAmQHcjQBXfauxHX/EqsHVx0sVTZTl =p7GP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC6242FA8C53E8585D76E2E70-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:09:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACB5106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-yi0-f54.google.com (mail-yi0-f54.google.com [209.85.218.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFE38FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yie19 with SMTP id 19so4286118yie.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:09:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.198.11 with SMTP id v11mr22808834ybf.77.1294254579290; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:09:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8sm11633543yba.14.2011.01.05.11.09.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D03C2E5485F for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:09:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:09:35 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110105140935.43e918d8@scorpio> In-Reply-To: References: <20110105064956.22d5382f@scorpio> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: mysql-5.5.8 & Postfix/Dovecot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:09:41 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:37:38 +0300 Odhiambo Washington articulated: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Jerry > wrote: > > > I have seen it posted here and on the Dovecot forum that upgrading > > to mysql-5.5.8 on FreeBSD breaks both Postfix and Dovecot. > > Apparently reverting to the mysql-client-5.5.7 corrects this > > problem. > > > > Can any one else confirm this or is this simply an isolated > > incident? If this is correct, is there a PR filed against it? I was > > not able to locate one. Specifically, I am interested in the > > interaction on an FreeBSD-8.2 / amd64 system. > > > > > I haven't filed a case though. My system is 8.2-STABLE/i386. > I was running 5.5.7 with Request Tracker > (Devel)and all played nice until I > upgraded to 5.5.8. As this is a test platform, I > wanted to install the next devel version of RT when I encountered a > problem with initializing the database: > I get this error: > > > DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax; > check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for > the right syntax to use near 'ENGINE=InnoDB CHARACTER SET utf8' at > line 15 > at /usr/home/wash/Tools/RT/RT-4/rt-4.0.0rc1/sbin/../lib/RT/Handle.pm > line 508. *** Error code 255 > > My worry is so much about the character set error. > > I also found my dovecot broken: > > Jan 05 15:26:16 master: Error: service(auth): child 46112 returned > error 1 Jan 05 15:26:16 master: Error: service(auth): command startup > failed, throttling > Jan 05 15:26:51 pop3-login: Error: Timeout waiting for handshake from > auth server. my pid=46111, input bytes=0 > Jan 05 15:27:16 auth: Error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: > /usr/local/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16: version libmysqlclient_16 > required by /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/auth not defined I wonder if this is a Dovecot error or a problem with the MySQL upgrade. Did you try asking Timo regarding the Dovecot problem? In any case, it might be worth it to file a PR against both Dovecot and MySQL. Nothing will probably get done until one is filed. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ And that's the way it is... Walter Cronkite From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:18:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A801065672 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:18:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAF28FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaYs1-0005gi-1z; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:18:05 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaYs0-0000uA-UA; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:18:04 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05JI4qM039866; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:18:04 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p05JI4mE039865; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:18:04 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:18:04 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20110105191804.GA39787@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20101227141122.GA1741@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4D18AB0C.50707@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110105121239.GB38449@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> <4D24BE82.1030301@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D24BE82.1030301@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyv8, sleeping 30 secs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:18:06 -0000 On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:54:58PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/01/2011 12:12, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I'd still like to start xdm automatically on reboot. > > If I can't do it via /etc/ttys, > > what would be the alternative way? > > > > Well, you'ld have to start it as a daemon using some sort of rc.d file. > There doesn't seem to be one supplied with the x11/xdm port, so I guess > you'll have to write your own. Shouldn't be too difficult -- just copy > and mutate some other relatively simple daemon's rc script. yes, I thought so. > > I think you'll need to put in some work on the Xdm config files, as it > defaults to trying to manage a local display. Remember too that running > X in plaintext over a network is roughly on a par, security wise, as > running such deprecated services as rsh or rlogin. yes, I know. many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:30:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1233) id 5CDBE106566B; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:30:13 +0000 From: Alexander Best To: David DEMELIER Message-ID: <20110105193013.GA42914@freebsd.org> References: <20100917003838.GA67783@freebsd.org> <20100921000624.GA86577@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:30:13 -0000 On Tue Sep 21 10, David DEMELIER wrote: > 2010/9/21 Alexander Best : > > On Fri Sep 17 10, David DEMELIER wrote: > >> 2010/9/17 Alexander Best : > >> > On Thu Sep 16 10, David DEMELIER wrote: > >> >> Hi there, > >> >> > >> >> I can't understand why this part of make buildkernel is so long on my > >> >> amd64 machine (8.1-R) > >> >> > >> >> make -V CFILES -V SYSTEM_CFILES -V GEN_CFILES |  MKDEP_CPP="cc -E" > >> >> CC="cc" xargs mkdep -a -f .newdep -O2 -frename-registers -pipe > >> >> -fno-strict-aliasing  -std=c99  -Wall -Wredundant-decls > >> >> -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes > >> >> -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign > >> >> -fformat-extensions -nostdinc  -I. -I/usr/src/sys > >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/altq -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ipfilter > >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath > >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/ath_hal -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/ngatm > >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/dev/twa -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD > >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs/FreeBSD/support -I/usr/src/sys/gnu/fs/xfs > >> >> -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/opensolaris/compat -I/usr/src/sys/dev/cxgb > >> >> -D_KERNEL -DHAVE_KERNEL_OPTION_HEADERS -include opt_global.h > >> >> -fno-common -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param > >> >> large-function-growth=1000  -fno-omit-frame-pointer -mcmodel=kernel > >> >> -mno-red-zone  -mfpmath=387 -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-mmx > >> >> -mno-3dnow  -msoft-float -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables > >> >> -ffreestanding -fstack-protector > >> >> > >> >> This command takes around 5-6 minutes before continuing, on my i386 > >> >> machine (which is really old) it only takes about 20 seconds. The > >> >> kernel configs are almost the same for both machines. > >> > > >> > are there any differences in /etc/make.conf? > >> > > >> > cheers. > >> > alex > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Do you have any idea? > >> >> > >> >> Kind regards, > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Demelier David > >> > > >> > -- > >> > a13x > >> > > >> > >> No, except the KERNCONF entry it's exactly the same : > > > > hmmm....strange. could you post the ouput of `make -VCFLAGS -VCOPTFLAGS` on > > both your machines, please? > > > > cheers. > > alex > > > >> > >> # General settings. > >> KERNCONF=Melon > >> MASTER_SORT?= .fr .uk > >> > >> # Portconf. > >> .if !empty(.CURDIR:M/usr/ports*) && exists(/usr/local/libexec/portconf) > >> _PORTCONF!=/usr/local/libexec/portconf > >> .for i in ${_PORTCONF:S/|/ /g} > >> ${i:S/%/ /g} > >> .endfor > >> .endif > >> > >> # Perl. > >> PERL_VERSION=5.10.1 > >> > >> # No need modules. > >> NO_MODULES=yes > >> > >> # Specify other directories. > >> WRKDIRPREFIX=   /usr/obj > >> DISTDIR=        /usr/distfiles > >> > >> -- > >> Demelier David > > > > -- > > a13x > > > > -O2 -pipe > > I think the problem is the amd64 architecture. When I buildkernel > using TARGET_ARCH=i386 it takes only one minute or even less, it's > only native target (amd64) which is long. i finally had the time to measue target buildkernel for amd64 and for i386: make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC TARGET=i386 248,84s user 47,29s system 101% cpu 4:52,15 total vs. make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC TARGET=amd64 246,36s user 47,08s system 103% cpu 4:44,62 total ...so no difference in my case. this was tested on a very recent HEAD with arch=amd64. cheers. alex > > Kind regards, > > -- > Demelier David -- a13x From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:08:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFF11065679 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:08:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from judmarc@fastmail.fm) Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com (out1.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA0D8FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57932102A; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:08:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=content-type:to:cc:subject:references:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=CaOCDiMoUGAbSvzCGX53LlF7sNE=; b=EqUUSBjsmR8CPKuwnGDuTAM7fSAwDIeXC3EcJscMiMDNNaAnf/xPaBKKTKuoDr8h1yEnEdpzrm/z2W3JgIO+MVxtk0XXOKLbK0o1F0KG/tQGtQ8U/oKqpYrTE4EVaI6DQqoAmZYcqlXskeOA+Fr7kHBfTGkH2uKKbv0lYfKU9iE= X-Sasl-enc: Z9UzqEjPDqc2SChI3AbR5dZCRysnwaGSzQaV73iA+Xvw 1294254486 Received: from jud-finks-macbook-pro.local (24.115.236.228.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net [24.115.236.228]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7540A402D79; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:08:06 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "Warren Block" References: <14212432ba707fc5f9fbc75b56e8e783@flabnapple.net> <20101226214221.GB68570@stainmore> <86pqsogfvu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D186D11.1030708@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110103225455.GA37597@daemon.gnix.co.uk> <4D22DB01.4080600@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:08:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jud Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.00 (MacIntel) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:35:03 +0000 Cc: Jamie Paul Griffin , "illoai@gmail.com" , Chris Brennan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Portupgrade status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:08:08 -0000 On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:04:03 -0500, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jan 2011, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> On 04/01/2011 00:51, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >>> No, the -R flag in portmaster tells it to not rebuild >>> ports taht have already been built on this run (I >>> believe from reading man portmaster). The -R >>> flag in portupgrade rebuilds the ports on which >>> the named port depends >>> -R >>> --upward-recursive Act on all those packages required by the given >>> packages as well. (When specified with -F, >>> fetch >>> recursively, including the brand new, >>> uninstalled >>> ports that an upgraded port requires) >>> >>> I don't see any equivalent functionality for portmaster, >>> sadly. >> >> This is actually portmaster's default behaviour. So: >> >> portupgrade -R foo/bar is equivalent to portmaster foo/bar >> >> portupgrade -fRr foo/bar is equivalent to portmaster -fr foo/bar > > I'm not seeing where portmaster has the portupgrade -R functionality > ("rebuild this port and those it depends on"). > > portmaster(8) says "The focus of this tool is to keep the dependency > tracking information for your ports up to date. This allows you to > safely update a specific port without having to update all of the ports > "above" it." > > That would make the default action equivalent to portupgrade's -r option > ("rebuild this port and all those that depend on it"). > > What have I missed? I agree the quoted passage might admit of more than one interpretation, but here is what I think it's saying: Portmaster will automagically update the dependencies for the port you select (= portupgrade -R). Thus there is no need to update the ports that depend on the one you have selected (= portupgrade -r), since all downstream dependencies will be taken care of by default whenever you run portmaster against any of these upstream ports. Jud -- "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:42:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7763C106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from demelier.david@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025F08FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so15468504wwf.31 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:42:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NMiwtY4lreXLTO7vQl0ZxhpUb9tRvD2Q0Klz0SGLrLw=; b=NRqMj2BlVjNhX7Ws0VsQv5u7KKxEci8+vNU8xlPH2tBUD66LnuY++UVAqVvnRxFA1q nEf5qVlTaiHa1gdk+NhlOpkq4ny9uMW5pYML9KjAS6d7faY4AKZMtdRiYWDlmiuwxlAX 8TtqDigBHoQn3wjyXsvEJhyHun6A25Mr+ArRg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vUR2NEi6hb69UFYauLlqhK8y/t74Cvsc+HzhqxMb3QFMm1Q7IXbmHsg3thS6rhj1Wk FcTaSQCkNfns/NbjlmeI3uPijXGdJVlX+D2hGEf9OKCqduCyEHYw8cpmC2jhKYyd9Cf+ noEgDVesGe9b1OG6bN0X6Da7TAnz1WsByMOkI= Received: by 10.227.141.142 with SMTP id m14mr3830229wbu.88.1294256534664; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from Abricot.malikania.fr (65.21.102-84.rev.gaoland.net [84.102.21.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m10sm16196463wbc.16.2011.01.05.11.42.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:42:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D24C9A9.30004@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:42:33 +0100 From: David Demelier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101220 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Lamaiziere References: <4D2476EB.3080304@gmail.com> <20110105150714.3e8ecff2@mr129041.univ-rennes1.fr> <4D247C1C.5030703@gmail.com> <4D249A32.4050001@gmail.com> <20110105183929.26c1548b@davenulle.org> <4D24B3EB.4040804@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D24B3EB.4040804@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Real ISO-8859-15 support or just an `alias' to 8859-1 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:42:19 -0000 On 05/01/2011 19:09, David Demelier wrote: > On 05/01/2011 18:39, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: >> Le Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:20:02 +0100, >> David Demelier a écrit : >> >>> by the way xev outputs this : >> >> The keysym is good. >> >> IMO the problem is in the display. How do you see this text in >> iso-8859-15 (download and cat test.txt)? >> http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/test.txt >> >> You should see "un œuf pour un €uro" >> >> I confirm that the DejaVu font displays well the euro and >> the oe french ligature. Well, I don't know where is your problem. It has >> always worked fine here, on the console and under X11. >> >> If it can help, locale -a >> ~$ locale -a | grep fr_FR >> fr_FR.ISO8859-1 >> fr_FR.ISO8859-15 >> fr_FR.UTF-8 >> >> Regards. > > No it prints the square and the 1/2 :-(. On tty it works! So it's > probably in X. > It works with xfce4 Terminal ! -- David Demelier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:47:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4232106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DE68FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A13E8B45; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:46:58 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=se/Ycz+Rm3s9 Rv6SHRnFcusRe+4=; b=m3BshKIYj4VATtWKrmnokcxAISQDpsWnZvg5Wy8Vsrop Ycv7zmDoB1Y/tTNSFu6TqHYolrbzbrkqWw4MLRdTOyftUQFY4EwiX0A/rhxTJTsG Ilgma5+WigDktQtw2FPZe+jqrjhP5b0z+7GMziC1Jc9ALSpUf4FVBMpOshENyXU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=i/VXYk vKGgbZfZGTJPbNVPt07gzEYdtev/sEsuQFPdlECVbZ4kAAosyUhvwHoejDe8UjHV +qMEIDO5+D0RlQJbgzpk58I3Ey2gstovWzrTiKBouEaFiFImsLp5nYxKJCVi6QgD mP+sBrY08QaAxlqpxReNoIgsLOBSpeKZxmzAo= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C015E8B44; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:46:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:46:53 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20110105194653.00005aa7@unknown> In-Reply-To: <4D1C4C6A.704@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <86k4is872b.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101230001817.00007082@unknown> <867hes8612.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D1C4C6A.704@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any recommendations for FreeBSD VPS hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:47:00 -0000 On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:10:02 +0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 30/12/2010 01:21, n j wrote: > > Thanks for the input, I'll look into the suggested options: > > > > http://arpnetworks.com/vps > > http://www.rootbsd.net/virtual-hosting/ > > http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_bsd.html > > > > If you know of any other FreeBSD VPS providers, please share. > > For people this side of the pond, http://www.goscomb.net do FreeBSD VPS's too. They're a bit expensive but you get a VM that's just 0.6ms from Linx in the UK, great tech support and IPv6. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:48:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B905106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFF48FC1D for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:48:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Sent-To: Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [68.40.255.141]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p05JmKSD079684 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:48:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <4D24CB09.3030603@msen.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:48:25 -0500 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=68.40.255.141; helo=[192.168.1.103] Subject: Re: Bot? / pf question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:48:21 -0000 On 05-Jan-11 1:44 PM, Kevin Wilcox wrote: > On 5 January 2011 13:25, David Brodbeck wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Kevin Wilcox wrote: >>> To really see what your machine is doing, consider taking a look at >>> the network flows. pfflowd, netflowd, ipaudit and a host of others can >>> get you flow data with mostly minimal overhead. >> Also, keep in mind that depending on how badly the machine has been >> compromised, you may not be able to trust the output of utilities >> running on the machine itself. You may have to resort to capturing >> its network traffic on another machine for analysis. > That's an excellent point. A span port from the upstream switch/router > would be ideal unless you've verified, through mechanisms external to > the machine (known good test media), the tools on that machine are > trustworthy. > > kmw > _______________________________________________ Since I am going to be setting up a mail server sometime next week and have to keep things like this in mind; would it make sense to run pf and block all outbound traffic that isn't on port 25 ( port 995 , etc) and force any web administration programs onto a port other than 80 to help with this sort of thing? Any other thoughts on how to make sure future installations can be kept secure? As always, thanks in advance to everyone, Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:51:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF9E106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D606E8FC25 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:51:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E34262C1EC; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:52:19 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ra16BtlFNrZ9; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:52:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.1.172] (c-76-113-215-212.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [76.113.215.212]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B5E9262C1EB; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:52:18 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: <4D24CB09.3030603@msen.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:51:19 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> <4D24CB09.3030603@msen.com> To: Mark Moellering X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bot? / pf question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:51:48 -0000 Yes and no. You want to leave ftp open, too, just in case for port = upgrading/downloading, plus you would want to do monitoring across the = wire (Nagios or something, maybe?). You could, though, do a dual-NIC = setup and have one be a private network LAN for the servers if you = aren't already considering it. On Jan 5, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Mark Moellering wrote: > Since I am going to be setting up a mail server sometime next week and = have to keep things like this in mind; > would it make sense to run pf and block all outbound traffic that = isn't on port 25 ( port 995 , etc) and force any web administration = programs onto a port other than 80 to help with this sort of thing? Any = other thoughts on how to make sure future installations can be kept = secure? >=20 > As always, thanks in advance to everyone, >=20 > Mark Moellering > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 19:58:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654571065673 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153098FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk8 with SMTP id 8so15919337qyk.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:58:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=8bylQ7UkAVKq8CzCYdH9O04Lxyb/psv7+kdp2WRFffE=; b=pRjQl8LBqNFUxPin1UO78arox35pqPUnPhOcFAfolnU567qGBRhmr8hqkZXD/YfrFM 7LrwMDiXte9jg7ClSKufT5i79tXWTWyLzrGOdfcQxGo3ARD4ZL36+7pmdCP91+hJrmLa lq50ajrThIdON8NLNDhQF7Q3/GK3cDXnhKjhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=X0LTqOZCf/mXUXZOr/xUkZB1rKB9kL+WCjn9KIGk/8U3F0wAa1WucToV8gqGLMO9Wu Y8QpwdtGlfdke+DVKhr19xZiQKFsW8tIWwb6aI2/fwuqd5kipPcBlSDGE1JsEcbi7qz8 /GCvwZj5VyTyg6ZpYtHYzpbLHP3oDsFp/a09Q= Received: by 10.229.230.198 with SMTP id jn6mr15622655qcb.61.1294257523409; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:58:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:58:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110105140935.43e918d8@scorpio> References: <20110105064956.22d5382f@scorpio> <20110105140935.43e918d8@scorpio> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:58:13 +0300 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: mysql-5.5.8 & Postfix/Dovecot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:58:46 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Jerry wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:37:38 +0300 > Odhiambo Washington articulated: > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Jerry > > wrote: > > > > > I have seen it posted here and on the Dovecot forum that upgrading > > > to mysql-5.5.8 on FreeBSD breaks both Postfix and Dovecot. > > > Apparently reverting to the mysql-client-5.5.7 corrects this > > > problem. > > > > > > Can any one else confirm this or is this simply an isolated > > > incident? If this is correct, is there a PR filed against it? I was > > > not able to locate one. Specifically, I am interested in the > > > interaction on an FreeBSD-8.2 / amd64 system. > > > > > > > > I haven't filed a case though. My system is 8.2-STABLE/i386. > > I was running 5.5.7 with Request Tracker > > (Devel)and all played nice until I > > upgraded to 5.5.8. As this is a test platform, I > > wanted to install the next devel version of RT when I encountered a > > problem with initializing the database: > > I get this error: > > > > > > DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax; > > check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for > > the right syntax to use near 'ENGINE=InnoDB CHARACTER SET utf8' at > > line 15 > > at /usr/home/wash/Tools/RT/RT-4/rt-4.0.0rc1/sbin/../lib/RT/Handle.pm > > line 508. *** Error code 255 > > > > My worry is so much about the character set error. > > > > I also found my dovecot broken: > > > > Jan 05 15:26:16 master: Error: service(auth): child 46112 returned > > error 1 Jan 05 15:26:16 master: Error: service(auth): command startup > > failed, throttling > > Jan 05 15:26:51 pop3-login: Error: Timeout waiting for handshake from > > auth server. my pid=46111, input bytes=0 > > Jan 05 15:27:16 auth: Error: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: > > /usr/local/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16: version libmysqlclient_16 > > required by /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/auth not defined > > I wonder if this is a Dovecot error or a problem with the MySQL > upgrade. Did you try asking Timo regarding the Dovecot problem? In any > case, it might be worth it to file a PR against both Dovecot and MySQL. > Nothing will probably get done until one is filed. > > Such minor breakages (like Dovecot experienced) don't worry me much sometimes. I simply recompile and life continues. When I upgrade a port I always expect (as a matter of principle) that something might go wrong and I go looking for it. However, the breakage with RT is one that has left me so worried - that character set issue, since it manifests itself on the main system, and only with 5.5.8 and not 5.5.7! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 20:05:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FAA106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EF18FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:05:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so15277195fxm.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:05:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=szusgxBn2LmQ79ASXKBT94sS62O2omfOL4xj93U0xCQ=; b=TEVLi1iS1Ms435Yq3eyGbmbeZjFLVr/69JxWX+97BOhQixIs+B1vIzXa653+HP04G6 JfM1kAODwY0kZtuUVI9M+/tp2wCW4Cqrj0YoDjDKERdYckHyOvon/k8k/ImXfwiuiIKq 9X5A94PxoVcXILYPbZiSHfIguNV0Kmde+E+Ag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=mTbeQ7aUSCG/Lfb4CzAbwXPlUoXvnuPMngMGQ3qQjc43vWS+Yer6Vvzwa5mqHTYLdc 5VnnwSw0VBbWbZg3km/mSKk4mZDPdJl+saUFPUpCYHS/eKrlZOLE/4SpAe5hTi+7XoFs G3xT/ApEFxXYP61BPNLW77rVwIQII4Tb2aDdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.85.204 with SMTP id p12mr3001740fal.146.1294257918362; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:05:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:05:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D24CB09.3030603@msen.com> References: <4D249129.6090008@webtent.net> <4D249298.9080706@nrdx.com> <4D24CB09.3030603@msen.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:05:18 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Mark Moellering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bot? / pf question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:05:20 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Mark Moellering wrote: > That's an excellent point. A span port from the upstream switch/router > > Since I am going to be setting up a mail server sometime next week and have > to keep things like this in mind; > would it make sense to run pf and block all outbound traffic that isn't on > port 25 ( port 995 , etc) and force any web administration programs onto a > port other than 80 to help with this sort of thing? Any other thoughts on > how to make sure future installations can be kept secure? > > As always, thanks in advance to everyone, > That a great example of when jails should be used, I put each service into it's own jail eg MTA, FTP, www. Actually I use something like pound then put each different website in it's own jail. Make sure each database backed service has separate login/passwords. Then if something like phplist, or an MTA is compromised the host OS and utilities can still be trusted, in theory at least. Also a managed port can help you deal with issues by tracking stat metrics/port mirroring/etc. You can use something ezjail to make administration tasks easier, and if you isolate the jail FS's(UFS/ZFS) make use of the snapshotting utilities. There are a couple of utilities in ports to help automate snapshots too. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 20:19:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1270A1065673 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web130203.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web130203.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.238.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A917B8FC1E for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 62916 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jan 2011 19:52:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294257143; bh=x5p6+X2ThiFWvSWwLfwfV8TTuxmMtV5A3xJwBCGI9Bg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WeOF1burWymTTfHvX9bd2bfyx7UJmV85s+FzfIrO5taTDaNBBRmDIcGNAZ4/NrJNuuL2+AG28jPoO4ASoW4LhWMBueU2i0EQGvvzmfPE6yxfKLMKg+SzjpsGRI0NSNgqXJLUo5MYDwYPsKdVG+r2RNcPV0EGnzh/z2UjGXkOL7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oI9IsWjLhMFTkCqRKOqd56KL4k97uG6hVAmdtfZ/mh6ADLA6Edt171GB92xyI91dyT3gdFL54uwNLQlZsGTdIGG7Iv14sZuZ/C0hblqQOEsZ1LBKRcKGFDBLexA26NTX6vCPv9LvYpfeuvB56kiTAgiTd5FuPn2YIS7hOK4W3zI=; Message-ID: <534524.62805.qm@web130203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .V2uOnMVM1mgsrqFqsNcrXgEDT14SEIlDy2U1WIslT34BZa wmTJqwUg9fXMx7bJ4gkr_EAaP0jXr2pj60m7mu_Rn0fXrflV0SwC3O.71T8L 5k7HvX_Wblep4jSJ.VtI4vlqFZ02zaGlOAz4zgU5mSkm4QGKh2q4mXdtt_1s LY3LU8AK_BQJO6Kh190VyTo_YSDqVns6t52.snvR4pXlTZhMgHr5ElXBK7lE lSYSU3W8qW6gmM_hNVIa_aGJB.IfjxMAEJNv65B7H6ElmxpgDi4X3SzEwlU8 tdAsZ1HOm7TeV86dwk2QRUY1JPVSXpW7.Jy2IoLkPpgxpvuaXpfPFqmuc2jr q7FK7TZFMPtGaXhCDTQWEA9JqO6Z_e3s_Ii0Vd6DKRiMd24Sazuv79_QD6rK 0aJOKTXUqgA7_ Received: from [184.80.143.6] by web130203.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:52:23 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:52:23 -0800 (PST) From: gahn To: free bsd , freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: freebsd and X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:19:04 -0000 hi all: i set up the freeradius 21.100.1 on freebsd 8.1. it uses local authentication database of /etc/passwd (thanks to the previous discussions alan did with others). the problem is: it only works with the condition of the server id running as "root" instead of "freeradius" due to the one way MD5 hash of /etc/passwd file. are there any other better ways to implement this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 20:32:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67CE106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:32:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75BF8FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overdrive.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8379DF7419; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:32:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:32:17 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: gahn Message-Id: <20110105153217.018bd21a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <534524.62805.qm@web130203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <534524.62805.qm@web130203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: freebsd and X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:32:20 -0000 (don't see why this was on -current) In response to gahn : > hi all: > > i set up the freeradius 21.100.1 on freebsd 8.1. it uses local authentication database of /etc/passwd (thanks to the previous discussions alan did with others). the problem is: it only works with the condition of the server id running as "root" instead of "freeradius" due to the one way MD5 hash of /etc/passwd file. > > are there any other better ways to implement this? a) Put the Radius server in a jail, so it can run as root without all the security concerns. b) Use something other than /etc/passwd authentication -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 20:45:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7502D106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk (dirg.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5BC8FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsd.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.59] helo=ncs.bris.ac.uk) by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaaEl-0000di-0A; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:45:39 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncs.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaaEk-0001lh-LQ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:45:38 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05KjcfL040088; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:45:38 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p05Kjc2g040087; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:45:38 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:45:38 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20110105204538.GA40060@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce Cran , Matthew Seaman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86k4is872b.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101230001817.00007082@unknown> <867hes8612.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D1C4C6A.704@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110105194653.00005aa7@unknown> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110105194653.00005aa7@unknown> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any recommendations for FreeBSD VPS hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:45:41 -0000 On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 07:46:53PM +0000, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:10:02 +0000 > Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > On 30/12/2010 01:21, n j wrote: > > > Thanks for the input, I'll look into the suggested options: > > > > > > http://arpnetworks.com/vps > > > http://www.rootbsd.net/virtual-hosting/ > > > http://www.johncompanies.com/jc_bsd.html > > > > > > If you know of any other FreeBSD VPS providers, please share. > > > > For people this side of the pond, > > http://www.goscomb.net do FreeBSD VPS's too. They're a bit expensive but > you get a VM that's just 0.6ms from Linx in the UK, great tech > support and IPv6. http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html I just rented a jail from exonetric.net - seems ok. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 21:17:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45D210656A5 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630458FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.85] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05LHSZX090958 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:17:29 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4D24DFEB.1010503@ifdnrg.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:17:31 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <86k4is872b.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101230001817.00007082@unknown> <867hes8612.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D1C4C6A.704@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110105194653.00005aa7@unknown> <20110105204538.GA40060@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110105204538.GA40060@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Any recommendations for FreeBSD VPS hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:17:31 -0000 > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html > > I just rented a jail from exonetric.net - seems ok. > > > FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT is on aws now ( on EU instances too yay!) still a bit slow as hell (if you're building stuff) on t1.micros tho.. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 21:18:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D731065696 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:18:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f68.google.com (mail-ww0-f68.google.com [74.125.82.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517B38FC15 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwj40 with SMTP id 40so5648360wwj.7 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:18:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.143.194 with SMTP id w2mr13729664wbu.44.1294261797597; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:09:57 -0800 (PST) Sender: aimass@yabarana.com Received: by 10.227.143.1 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:09:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110105194653.00005aa7@unknown> References: <86k4is872b.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20101230001817.00007082@unknown> <867hes8612.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4D1C4C6A.704@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110105194653.00005aa7@unknown> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:09:57 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: y-ZMAJ-ika1fkxPSBOhnVDY03jc Message-ID: From: Alejandro Imass To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: Any recommendations for FreeBSD VPS hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:18:31 -0000 Hi all, FYI (and ours ;-) ) the company I work with is __planning__ on expanding our server usage at M5 hosting (which BTW provide outstanding support and have really great infrastructure). Anyway, in our new servers we are going to be migrating existing customers to Jails, and we will probably have some capacity left, so we were thinking of providing FBSD Jail services as such, but didn't know for a fact there was a demand for such a service. Apparently there is! Are there any particular requirements that people here should think we would be offering? I mean are there any specific configurations/options that people wish for? SLA requirements, etc.? If we actually do expand our servers I will let you know, but in the mean time it would be helpful to understand the potential client wishes. Thanks, Alex On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:10:02 +0000 > Matthew Seaman wrote: From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 21:30:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51D5106566C; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 21:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:30:04 -0500 From: Thomas Abthorpe To: n j Message-ID: <20110105213004.GC10816@hub.freebsd.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rQ2U398070+RC21q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-URL: http://www.goodking.org/ X-PGP-Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe/tabthorpe.asc X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xA473C990 X-PGP-Key-Fingerprint: D883 2D7C EB78 944A 69FC 36A6 D937 1097 A473 C990 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Any recommendations for FreeBSD VPS hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:30:05 -0000 --rQ2U398070+RC21q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:02:58AM +0100, n j wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm looking for inexpensive but reliable FreeBSD VPS hosting. Any > input coming from a positive personal experience will be most > appreciated. >=20 > So far the most likely candidate seems to be > http://www.nqhost.com/unmetered-xen-vds.html. If anyone ever dealt > with them, please share. >=20 > TIA, > --=20 > Nino Not a VPS, but http://your.org has made a great commitment to supporting FreeBSD, and providing VM instances. Thomas --=20 Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe --rQ2U398070+RC21q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNJOLcAAoJENk3EJekc8mQChoH+gJmcokmECDZefU19q79mJBO dhiAdErJVbc3XDQhgmilcFDSdGzFhUYXCrFFGO9hPfiR+Uq8w/2McqsA2Y+tz2b5 s04l991wSoUspoJJrwOyFi4OHOKN4JKrOFKjqhN7jTZ+KGS3LhKzMejc8TxEcShW fNDgkL5o7w4pRUcm57sf7ScOjCQkt16bVW1M0tYDp4VCtYGcf3MkUvfUMmg+Eze7 W0+Foc/8lXMpThFzkDL53R5Lv3TrP605+Xy0BGEO5hVr59DhsN2k6091i75QMBCp ygFaQRtPZ0/ZBnJfP40PDEP+/SQwPtf228hDBvrspxK5mY58vlKG4z/JONlTmEU= =3pjS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rQ2U398070+RC21q-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 22:15:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C09B1065670 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0718FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so15965091wyf.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:15:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FDc+B66w4u8ORbMPkZ9qLM3nvfn9ttx/Ug82dXli0Hw=; b=xEfk4qoDW+ebiZq+NqAuf8PKszOMQP/2jonlm2wumobTv5i2jScpQHZEoYrXGiZ7/q +czD/3mMQHoAErTcpMNVVBUBZv4BZKzRiXoTHK2eKyqCQnyNtfMSx/oqZupokAjaOsb2 9wMq86794d5gvCzwWXD7kjHkPzeMVgOoHQ1RY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NA5GUz+RwFHelCUtK6/0Yn8T/FnWzyquQgfT+fdV5Y26Q0Lxgw3OW/bIODOfs+Iou4 JdL9DrciTuCJWP3e766JKrG8CH0Ch8LpEmB+PTWS3l+bOZmFItUDQJZafnnE3ZpNDGcW oOCMotsbSPQrqoySZL+uQ1gJho8zY2mPotAtQ= Received: by 10.216.54.133 with SMTP id i5mr21176wec.23.1294265742436; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6sm11444706weq.20.2011.01.05.14.15.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:15:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:15:38 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105221538.26daeb0d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20110105160514.GA94459@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20110105062401.GB74123@guilt.hydra> <20110105160514.GA94459@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:15:44 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 08:05:14 -0800 Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 04 January 2011: > > The weirdest thing about most useless uses of cat is that not using > > cat would actually be a little clearer and involve fewer keystrokes > > -- as in this case. > > > I blame OOP. Programmer thinks about the data stream before they > think about the process. It's a nouns-first orientation. You might easily get the same prejudice from data flow diagrams - or plumbing. Personally I find that using cat makes things simpler and less error prone when reusing pipelines in shell history. For example it's easier to edit cat file | foo into cat file | bar | foo or cat file? | foo than editing foo < file into bar < file | foo or cat file? | foo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 22:21:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6161065674 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A10B28FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 23201 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2011 22:21:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2011 22:21:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=bRlEcWzINY4uO/re1pQuYZRPK5CgJKD3R9IEFknRufjOGOvuAdhA8VKrQbtl9fI6sBkyZalhc9CpEWdFZe2Dp1OO7qOVUlHVA1zrswUo84zuBl7VBNI0BsvuWabIQRP2; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pabjc-000211-1W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:21:37 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:13:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:13:02 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110105221302.GA77555@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20110105062401.GB74123@guilt.hydra> <20110105160514.GA94459@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110105221538.26daeb0d@gumby.homeunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110105221538.26daeb0d@gumby.homeunix.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:21:37 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 10:15:38PM +0000, RW wrote: >=20 > For example it's easier to edit=20 >=20 > cat file | foo >=20 > into=20 > =20 > cat file | bar | foo > or cat file? | foo >=20 > than editing=20 >=20 > foo < file >=20 > into >=20 > bar < file | foo > or cat file? | foo In this case, example was: cat file | foo arg =2E . . where it could have been: foo arg file That's just kind of absurd. I mean, that sort of usage (foo arg file) is exactly the purpose for which grep was designed. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk0k7O4ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXmQQCfVT2Xy9DL8W3owfW3S8oRS2D3 l4oAn0nfyiQnoj0fhRoAQXKOFPR1qaKW =MIZE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 22:28:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0BCA106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy3-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72AC98FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4688 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2011 22:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2011 22:28:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=NyG5PT/R7qLqQMESzyJwQcnoPGayUC51bhm4evajFnjg08Y4KfiYfLhzQ+g39Fp+6cri4lTRyOFtDHNse6SukiSuBHWD+oElKicSM9hczfHpAwSskckgryhgpL8AZlxX; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pabq0-0001RD-Q6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:28:13 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:19:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:19:39 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:28:14 -0000 --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require libsmbclient? This strikes me as the very height of software bloat absurdity. Maybe I'm missing something. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk0k7nsACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVeHgCgg79GzGwrIn94LVe/attf514d CocAnRZcjevF5wiRwFK7zxyIXT7l28sH =WHVd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HlL+5n6rz5pIUxbD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 22:36:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0203F10656A4 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:36:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73328FC18 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-37-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.37.207]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23EDA1E51D; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p05MaCfl001681; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:12 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chad Perrin Message-Id: <20110105233612.5eba8509.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> References: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:36:15 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:19:39 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote: > Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require > libsmbclient? This strikes me as the very height of software bloat > absurdity. Maybe I'm missing something. Welcome to the glory of rapid application development and "modern" programming! :-) According to your question: I am confident that the SMB dependency is brought into Gimp by the gutenprint module (can't even tell you exactly what it does, may have something to do with CUPS I also don't have any use for). CUPS seems to be hardcoded into Gimp even if you don't use it (due to a normal printer). The SMB dependency is also used by several Gnome-related dependencies, such as Gnome-VFS, a part of nearly every "file open" dialog in Gtk. The /var/db/pkg//+REQUIRED_BY file tells you about the next higher stage of dependency (maybe another library or a "primary program" - the thing you actually want to use). Note that observations like this are the reason you have to constantly buy a new computer in order to keep doing the same things at the same average speed. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 22:52:41 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EC4106566C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2EB8FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D67509B9; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:52:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id CB7AC3C32D; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:52:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com (advphtcas0.wradvisors.com [192.168.203.228]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C132C3C327; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:52:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.151]) by ADVPHTCAS0.wradvisors.com ([192.168.203.228]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:52:30 -0600 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Chad Perrin' , FreeBSD Questions Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:52:30 -0600 Thread-Topic: the GIMP and Samba Thread-Index: AcutJ+NKy5MOeB6gRsKfGD84uvpr4AAAwBaw Message-ID: <19331_1294267950_4D24F62E_19331_11102_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D2@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:52:41 -0000 There's prolly a 10 line function the developer didn't want to write. I've = seen some case where it takes more code to link to other packages than just= write what's needed. Drives me crazy to have to install apps that have "n= othing" to do with the app I really need... -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Chad Perrin Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:20 PM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: the GIMP and Samba Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require libsmbclient? This strikes me as the very height of software bloat absurdity. Maybe I'm missing something. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 22:59:21 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC36A1065675 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FA68FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05MxJOx019288; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:59:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p05MxJlD019285; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:59:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:59:19 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> Message-ID: References: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:59:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:59:22 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Chad Perrin wrote: > Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require > libsmbclient? This strikes me as the very height of software bloat > absurdity. Maybe I'm missing something. package = pre-built, off-the-rack, one-size-fits-all. I don't know where the dependency comes in, but gimp withtout libsmbclient works here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 22:59:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2E0106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from JWhitman@JWNetSource.com) Received: from 10151.p.jwnetsource.com (10151.x.rootbsd.net [204.109.63.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFB08FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:59:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [69.215.202.5] (helo=ASUSP5WD2P) by 10151.p.jwnetsource.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PabvE-000OxP-BW for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:33:36 +0000 From: "Jeff Whitman" To: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:33:07 -0500 Organization: JW NetSource, LLC Message-ID: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcutKIX8ZEoAd0N4QUynqNRaPNY/bA== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:59:34 -0000 I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON processors and 6GB RAM. What is the recommended swap space? I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, others say stay with 2 x RAM. Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:03:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8487C106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:03:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7798FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-113-166-177.tukw.qwest.net ([97.113.166.177] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PacNg-000095-TM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:03:02 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:03:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:03:02 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110105230302.GA2112@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Subject: Re: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:03:08 -0000 --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Warren Block on Wednesday, 05 January 2011: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Chad Perrin wrote: >=20 > >Can someone enlighten me as to why the GIMP package would require > >libsmbclient? This strikes me as the very height of software bloat > >absurdity. Maybe I'm missing something. >=20 > package =3D pre-built, off-the-rack, one-size-fits-all. >=20 > I don't know where the dependency comes in, but gimp withtout=20 > libsmbclient works here. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" Gutenprint support is an OPTION in gimp -- perhaps turning that off relieves you of the dependency? --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNJPilAAoJEIpckszW26+RrkEH/i+2GWYQRaYsCg5bg6oUUwE4 11A79Mz3zZBw/D7iEciol6TdgH8acbIMPoNdp0MrCP9H0bOQhN70Fq+ysVWVl/X5 udWfM4MYRfLbVQPiVDmyAqe2z+CPVretL8rJq/53xJmv+SlEpC/KsJr+27NjvRIG VU3dLA5lyiCqgS+I+dHwrSlzJKREfGM4MoLD9OGglxr71DTiB8wRAtP/tHpzR0tD 0EW4fROuszIiPUhdkDv9+9bB0IN8z75xrk4HK7ZDgVWd7wh7nAvpSoY580B8tEQc 6UNTQ43dWiZN9/7VjlyktSmLfkpHOO/qYdsRIC7XhLmj5LEUBMgXj0EBwSsHmxE= =un6L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:06:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96153106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560D48FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-37-207.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.37.207]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E742A3D6BA; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:06:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p05N6tBB002224; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:06:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:06:55 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Chip Camden Message-Id: <20110106000655.7ac5d8b8.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20110105230302.GA2112@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> References: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> <20110105230302.GA2112@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:06:57 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:03:02 -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > Gutenprint support is an OPTION in gimp -- perhaps turning that off > relieves you of the dependency? Or maybe it's an option to gnomevfs... or something related to Gtk 2 in general... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:14:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C56106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18A98FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so15432128fxm.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:14:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XKZ6OnAF1T8k35kfhcqgEpKM4VRSrnGwgCNWevVXtVQ=; b=F4ue9FIHHilLg5kwBaacixFmmUR7BAAfNuiZPo8BonsD3IuYksFjjWkXom3ZOxH4aw e3f8ld9nP2jNHWmWUE+65ZVTC5R8O0uncSC/HDyxIgdgSGz0+K9WXWkFYKQ7KT0lEpAH xkZ0j1pHHUUXm19CY3VPeyon7u0uoEe2rPUSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=n1GNl227/a1zbYKtbKsH9lBkcAxkAvUX/zCuCEFL1PIZcbqW9uaMwdIJ+FB1T/QlZ0 t7z9jKTs0BZlGADWdH+TPCzX78a6aB/LW9jp5KznNmSKaA+A9RRu0pMaVReVWWU74Ykr 7/TlzcqsX3ca2oCID7nqUW5/wyH0aSICyhJj8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.85.203 with SMTP id p11mr1938922fal.108.1294269257745; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:14:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:14:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Jeff Whitman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:14:19 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Jeff Whitman wrote: > I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON > processors and 6GB RAM. > > What is the recommended swap space? > > > I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, > others say stay with 2 x RAM. > Definitely not 0, but 2x would probably be way too much IMO. 4 - 6 GB should be enough for most use cases. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:20:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CA71065672 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:20:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99A28FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CFA50955; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 51D773C337; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452293C32F; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.151]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:49 -0600 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Adam Vande More' , Jeff Whitman Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:48 -0600 Thread-Topic: Swap Space Thread-Index: AcutLla8qX4GwA36Ta6+9+I6l+fomwAAIoZA Message-ID: <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:20:55 -0000 > I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON > processors and 6GB RAM. > > What is the recommended swap space? > > > I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, > others say stay with 2 x RAM. > Definitely not 0, but 2x would probably be way too much IMO. 4 - 6 GB should be enough for most use cases. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and activate) a se= condary / additional swap file if necessary without rebooting. So maybe st= art with a few gig and add an additional swap file if necessary?
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:23:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B58106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:23:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E378FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p05NNAks019407; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:23:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p05NNAE9019404; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:23:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 16:23:10 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20110106000655.7ac5d8b8.freebsd@edvax.de> Message-ID: References: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> <20110105230302.GA2112@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110106000655.7ac5d8b8.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:23:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: Chip Camden , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:23:17 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Polytropon wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:03:02 -0800, Chip Camden wrote: >> Gutenprint support is an OPTION in gimp -- perhaps turning that off >> relieves you of the dependency? > > Or maybe it's an option to gnomevfs... or something > related to Gtk 2 in general... It's not gutenprint (which I have installed), at least not directly. devel/gnome-vfs does have a Samba option, which is disabled here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:24:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F9110656BE for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE9B8FC18 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18729E8B45; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:24:12 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=rI3F++UZbEdG cvLMwDO9Db++HHw=; b=DQGbolulAHHkC3KsSrPf60bO7z+EjFzZ69y/VttKDwdd mi+DOavexAG4OQRVsTDLIfdp2pmCYKznqz1eJWdmAZRNwynjChH1RbMUPlMRFM84 WGvp8Wkoc+JnKOsQM0dnl/Ssd5Z7raTxxvzS/exay3Jlo0/Q+3tlG32YIzprOwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=N5vzTq jtwaN+tipRUnIrsN3+M4eUhTqiN4NU2984MWThWBrKA0GtaJ64Tj6Vuaw1b0vqKN 1sb7r2ShRwoj2oJF6sZ5MHVy9TvbEr6WEAV2syP/cxdfLGHLhKbLSH0HCB/ORVDK UUz7rHu2/zBZC79i2Jz6ORPImIUhTfxu/hpQs= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B83CBE72B1; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:24:03 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Gary Gatten Message-ID: <20110105232403.000056a2@unknown> In-Reply-To: <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'Adam Vande More' , Jeff Whitman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:24:13 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:20:48 -0600 Gary Gatten wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and > activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without > rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap > file if necessary? Swapping to a file is really slow and should only be done if absolutely necessary since every read/write has to go through the filesystem code which it doesn't do if done via a swap slice. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:33:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575B91065673 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3D58FC0C for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F8B5098D; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:33:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id AA36B3C331; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:33:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3923C32D; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:33:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.151]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:33:12 -0600 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Bruce Cran' Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:33:12 -0600 Thread-Topic: Swap Space Thread-Index: AcutL61oiVS43KidQUWKLZf1ekQOmgAAHPDQ Message-ID: <27348_1294270392_4D24FFB8_27348_5874_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D6@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110105232403.000056a2@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110105232403.000056a2@unknown> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: 'Adam Vande More' , Jeff Whitman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:33:18 -0000 > Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and > activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without > rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap > file if necessary? Swapping to a file is really slow and should only be done if absolutely necessary since every read/write has to go through the filesystem code which it doesn't do if done via a swap slice. Good point. It's been several years and back on v5 or 6 when I did somethi= ng like this. If there's unpartitioned space on the drive, can one add a s= econdary swap partition real-time? I forget what I did here - I'm sure I f= ollowed what's in the handbook re swap space. Probably did a swap file...
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:38:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF3D1065696 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C7628FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so15449360fxm.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:38:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dNaygllxxq4GAGChtCa0LQbOP0ZAQWGAuavg9j9YSUw=; b=lCYZ+rHp92H3AnqF+C1IlQNHD8umvRiYkag4dfz1jMzv6K1AiPnTK5SI+DN12vgMY1 qqvnjTFqwPAzX6LH5xEToikBTz12r1V5fTOeLggFEBrhuh7bJXknI7IFoGNaAUSdNFIa AVYn+onQ0FlwiUt5VhcR3MnObY8ZPf0TkkzbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KCp8DP4vxbEnYZ366X3iMamdVgZg9umW2sTW3Djedw1KSz7ibL5ylOWANgNA5o3eDK HP4nRQ0TgwLTnl4HwQhOMS8eHRInaDHJyxNljr55YCR5z1PuUqYf3gh5Aony1L9Qo8cS vvfgItF5n4B1iwA8K0+zEZwkFqBFZCcaXU6oA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr2094406faq.51.1294270730439; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:38:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27348_1294270392_4D24FFB8_27348_5874_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D6@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110105232403.000056a2@unknown> <27348_1294270392_4D24FFB8_27348_5874_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D6@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:38:50 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Gary Gatten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Jeff Whitman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:38:52 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Gary Gatten wrote: > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and > > activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without > > rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap > > file if necessary? > > Swapping to a file is really slow and should only be done if absolutely > necessary since every read/write has to go through the filesystem code > which it doesn't do if done via a swap slice. > > Good point. It's been several years and back on v5 or 6 when I did > something like this. If there's unpartitioned space on the drive, can one > add a secondary swap partition real-time? I forget what I did here - I'm > sure I followed what's in the handbook re swap space. Probably did a swap > file... > Yes you can do that with swapon(1) It's been said though that FreeBSD memory paging algorithms take into account the system's entire available VM for deciding on when to act in low memory conditions and these parameters are tuned expect some of that to be swap space. That is why one reason there *should* be a least some swap space even on a system w/ plenty of RAM. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:46:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F461065672 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626208FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (mailhost3.waddell.com [10.1.10.28]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F299B50980; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhost3.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id EB9343C336; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by mailhost3.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D768B3C32D; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.151]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:46:47 -0600 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Adam Vande More' Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:46:47 -0600 Thread-Topic: Swap Space - hijack? Thread-Index: AcutMbVhhYWloaCWQ3S9TtpPvLOSkAAAKEuw Message-ID: <27348_1294271207_4D2502E7_27348_6108_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D8@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> <20110105232403.000056a2@unknown> <27348_1294270392_4D24FFB8_27348_5874_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D6@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Jeff Whitman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Swap Space - hijack? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:46:53 -0000 > Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and > activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without > rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap > file if necessary? Swapping to a file is really slow and should only be done if absolutely necessary since every read/write has to go through the filesystem code which it doesn't do if done via a swap slice. Good point. It's been several years and back on v5 or 6 when I did somethi= ng like this. If there's unpartitioned space on the drive, can one add a s= econdary swap partition real-time? I forget what I did here - I'm sure I f= ollowed what's in the handbook re swap space. Probably did a swap file... Yes you can do that with swapon(1) It's been said though that FreeBSD memory paging algorithms take into accou= nt the system's entire available VM for deciding on when to act in low memo= ry conditions and these parameters are tuned expect some of that to be swap= space. That is why one reason there *should* be a least some swap space e= ven on a system w/ plenty of RAM. Sorry for the probable hijack... Speaking of swapping algorithms, is there = a way to force a parent and all child processes to NOT be swapped - period = - and always remain 100% in "real" memory? And if so, is it discouraged or= completely up to the sysadmin?
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:57:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077E3106566B for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17298FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.37]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2011 18:57:00 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AQZ38083; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:56:30 -0500 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2011 18:56:30 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19749.1325.558987.325454@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:56:29 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr17.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:57:02 -0000 Adam Vande More writes: > > I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON > > processors and 6GB RAM. > > > > What is the recommended swap space? > > > I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, > > others say stay with 2 x RAM. > > > > Definitely not 0, but 2x would probably be way too much IMO. 4 - > 6 GB should be enough for most use cases. One data point: last pid: 58457; load averages: 1.91, 2.20, 2.27 up 8+19:16:27 18:51:23 166 processes: 5 running, 158 sleeping, 2 stopped, 1 zombie Mem: 1541M Active, 1267M Inact, 1223M Wired, 195M Cache, 802M Buf, 3440M Free Swap: 18G Total, 11M Used, 18G Free (That's 8g total memory.) It's a fairly lightly loaded workstation. A philosophical consideration: modern disks are cheap, and fairly fast. Repartitioning if you don't have enough is a pain. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 00:08:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626E81065674 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Dave.Robison@fisglobal.com) Received: from mailoutltc.fnis.com (mailoutltc.fnis.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27FAB8FC1F for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sbhfislrext01.fnfis.com ([192.168.249.167]) by SCSFISLTC01 (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p05NOaol013566 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:24:36 -0600 Received: from sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM (Not Verified[10.132.248.122]) by sbhfislrext01.fnfis.com with MailMarshal (v6, 5, 4, 7535) id ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:24:39 -0600 Received: from sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM ([10.132.248.121]) by sbhfisltcgw02.FNFIS.COM with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:24:35 -0600 Received: from lefty.vicor.com ([10.132.254.136]) by sbhfisltcgw01.FNFIS.COM over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:24:35 -0600 Message-ID: <4D24FDB4.4060904@fisglobal.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:24:36 -0800 From: "Robison, Dave" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101222 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> In-Reply-To: <19331_1294269649_4D24FCD1_19331_11348_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90D4@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2011 23:24:35.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[B730ADC0:01CBAD2F] Subject: Re: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: david.robison@fisglobal.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:08:02 -0000 On 01/05/11 15:20, Gary Gatten wrote: >> I will be installing 8.1 on a Dell Poweredge 2850, with dual 3 GHz XEON >> processors and 6GB RAM. >> >> What is the recommended swap space? >> >> >> I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, >> others say stay with 2 x RAM. >> > Definitely not 0, but 2x would probably be way too much IMO. 4 - 6 GB should > be enough for most use cases. > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but if necessary one could add (and activate) a secondary / additional swap file if necessary without rebooting. So maybe start with a few gig and add an additional swap file if necessary? > > > > > > >
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Thank you. _____________ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 00:52:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C1D10656A5 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:52:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B888FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:52:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so15714589wwf.31 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4X0TzQ5QdlQHS70h9rrfBwM/9vXbGHNXUiW5rgCLF/M=; b=NPMgj8EhM+DaAbLkTXj69H4IXFQsj7X46tMbwaeEQEXaoiSVFAixf0uUkOLo82tDlv HYs24W8z+GIomeMO2Bu733zlPBEap67pCNphlYecPbfAiZL/QjzJWbzu1fJVY+09Y0wr gfoMvJc0wgENprIHqIGGgyKNqX2f3QaILnXWs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XQpUB7/AY6XFaTWh3UbtLqwPqKcchAKeCKSWSodiw7lSOfuZfCu08YIdjEkI6LJ3sT pQqyuNrLx8ryAowpSAPxqpmoU0SA4eDsMjdD1gTxnB1EBNy5b8Oay1j+XjyS2SyOSglh ITIUo35zy83aQ4aoZFJXu/yUW/h4XbhD5LCAI= Received: by 10.227.144.12 with SMTP id x12mr13806467wbu.102.1294275120815; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m10sm16382161wbc.16.2011.01.05.16.51.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:52:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:51:57 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110106005157.4f030324@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20110105221302.GA77555@guilt.hydra> References: <117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr> <86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20110105062401.GB74123@guilt.hydra> <20110105160514.GA94459@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110105221538.26daeb0d@gumby.homeunix.com> <20110105221302.GA77555@guilt.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: a perl question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:52:02 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 15:13:02 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > In this case, example was: > > cat file | foo arg > > . . . where it could have been: > > foo arg file > > That's just kind of absurd. I mean, that sort of usage (foo arg > file) is exactly the purpose for which grep was designed. > Obviously, I'm talking about the general case. If I'd meant grep I'd have written grep and not foo. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 00:53:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E86C1065670 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from indexer@internode.on.net) Received: from mail.internode.on.net (bld-mail12.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.137.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896AA8FC19 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from staff-250-181.wireless.adelaide.edu.au (unverified [129.127.250.181]) by mail.internode.on.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 51971986-1927428 for multiple; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:23:51 +1030 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Indexer In-Reply-To: <20110105153217.018bd21a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:23:46 +1030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <22B48F74-6976-4DCB-8F3C-CE0D0D425173@internode.on.net> References: <534524.62805.qm@web130203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110105153217.018bd21a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> To: Bill Moran X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.3.1 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: gahn , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: freebsd and X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:53:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/01/2011, at 07:02, Bill Moran wrote: >=20 > (don't see why this was on -current) >=20 > In response to gahn : >> hi all: >>=20 >> i set up the freeradius 21.100.1 on freebsd 8.1. it uses local = authentication database of /etc/passwd (thanks to the previous = discussions alan did with others). the problem is: it only works with = the condition of the server id running as "root" instead of "freeradius" = due to the one way MD5 hash of /etc/passwd file. >>=20 >> are there any other better ways to implement this? >=20 > a) Put the Radius server in a jail, so it can run as root without all = the > security concerns. > b) Use something other than /etc/passwd authentication >=20 Cant radius use pam? perhaps you should look into that.=20 It may be a pain though, freeradius is largely undocumented, and what = documentation exists is often incomplete, incorrect and full of people = touting "IT JUST WORKS" when 99% of the time, It never works. Once you = figure it out however, its great. I would highly recommend putting your = raddb into a version control system.=20 > --=20 > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" William Brown pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNJRKdAAoJEHF16AnLoz6Je6YP/j5sfpXOReiyviyNututzGfA dS+/6MoBfumuzdLAxTZ5gCJ4r7hIWJSbl0vPbt8zDbigcGJKcuT63dfdeAsV/7vu /0KqeC1HbrS5mXB2bVVjUvxgm+LbTlTrS8pIkS3A1jWSvvYgqb5ABXL2gXDARJig pQ5Ehw/mJsgNNmYOrHD1FV5H1/0s0arXSK6rK/sJa7qBIyuLvfuatfK2NOFlPAr5 ST1UqvGrEVP5vA4GGO3+l4m7CBIuzVBuVaLpTpsHUXcdjxoB0bgZrR6se42z7VFo PgClT1bKv/Ht8rD9EO6oRpASAHB89/K1HpNvHbV9KT+veuKcla0xVPilpyt+XMES c4iDxwOBzml+N6QPiGdD9+GhfvZbg2JBgHoGYFXclyDJFceiDVkMgTWN75miB+d4 tMTZbtwkQNoobRmp/BCAlVqRJC3dUQeVqDSAUkuMf6ZU0WQWfh6g8qtGb0IA5mWH u0mRbBacEr4kx3bSeIzCb09DJMkDFmb1/kaQPVqUEYpU+ggW8yLV5sz/vdomdpRB 6hUfcXHnGK/GY4FsMPHaLTWghHdG6cFv8XwM/8ftsrCTtJYl0mD8xzSxqeTBCrua VPHcZ0d4gxe7reylYZfp8NqTAK96JBkRqEoTtYyi6Oiy8kbolY8SHiok98o/uydT nGM30URjS7EC7oSyL4N5 =3DppAO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 04:13:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CFD106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 04:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EDF8FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 04:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1849FE804D8; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:13:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:13:34 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: blog-site questions.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 04:13:36 -0000 Guys, If there are any people who are into maintaining web logs/blog, this might be _the_ place to ask. O/wise, type 'd' now. One thing I've heard several times is that blogging is a good way of promoting one's own books. (I've got at least three books either published or to-be-published. [[ ... .]]) Now, outside this list nobody knows me--and that's fine, except that with a just published ebook, it's time to make my name and ebook public. Before I rush out and sign up with some blogging websites, would be be better to use a FBSD port and do it myself? Ill be open about this: I'm still not _entirely_ sure whata blog is. But I'm a fast study :) If there are better places to ask about web logs, URL's please... . gary PS: Any reason why nobody here has read my ebook? It is for geeks and about op en source stuff, so, like , v'mon, people -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 04:42:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE4A106566C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 04:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBCE8FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 04:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so7505855ewy.13 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.109.9 with SMTP id h9mr200624ebp.38.1294288950914; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:42:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 20:42:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> References: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> From: Chris Brennan Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:42:10 -0500 Message-ID: To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blog-site questions.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 04:42:32 -0000 On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, > > If there are any people who are into maintaining web logs/blog, this > might be _the_ place to ask. O/wise, type 'd' now. > > One thing I've heard several times is that blogging is a good way of > promoting one's own books. (I've got at least three books either > published or to-be-published. [[ ... .]]) Now, outside this list > nobody knows me--and that's fine, WAIT! Who's Gary Kline? > except that with a just published > ebook, it's time to make my name and ebook public. Before I rush > out and sign up with some blogging websites, would be be better to > use a FBSD port and do it myself? > > Ill be open about this: I'm still not _entirely_ sure whata blog is. > But I'm a fast study :) > If there are better places to ask about web logs, URL's please... . > > gary > > PS: Any reason why nobody here has read my ebook? It is for geeks > and about open source stuff, so, like , v'mon, people > a Blog is a website ... think wordpress, blogger.com or livejournal.com just to name a few .... personally, I'm an lj lifer, that's all I've ever used. That being said ... if there is a port it would be something like workpress (and/or joomla and the ilk). which will just do what you can do yourself by grabbing the sources from their perspective websites and install yourself in about 10 minutes. Very easy to do. If you want to promote some of your written work ... get a domain and set one of these up for yourself. My personal opinion says that if you've set up a domain to promote a book yourself vs using something like blogger.com/livejournal.com/wordpress.com (yes they will give you your very own blog, free of charge under their domain). In my eyes, these look very unprofessional. This is an argument I've had with my roommates side business on more then one occasion ... usually after he wonders why his business generates about 1 client/mo. At the end of the day it's what you want to put out of pocket for the domain and hosting. C- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 09:06:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9D91065673 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638738FC15 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:06:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0696gnc011820; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:06:43 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:06:42 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Chris Brennan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:06:55 -0000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > Saw Chris' later message that -F isn't there for him, but here's what > > should be, on the data, the sure-fire way to clobber that last sector: > > > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149167 > > > > which command SHOULD report just 512 bytes written (we're sure it can't > > write past the end of the disk with no count specified), after which: > > > > dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149167 | hd > > > > SHOULD show zeroes from 00000000 to 000001ff (ie next block 00000200) > > If not, there really must be some hardware issue with writing? > > > > Hopefully getting there! > Fixit# sysctrl kern.geom.debugflags=16 > kern.geom.debugflags: 0 -> 16 > Fixit# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 oseek=1465149167 > dd: /dev/ad4: end of device > 2+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 512 bytes transferred in 0.0100001 secs (51195 bytes/sec) So that's right. > Fixit# dd if=/dev/ad4 iseek=1465149167 | hd > 1+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > |................| > 512 bytes transferred om 0.009863 secs (51912 bytes/sec) > * > 00000200 And that's right - the GPT secondary header is now gone. > restarting and back to sysinstall from BETA1 is nice dice ... same original > error ... can I just zero the whole drive? Sure you can - but I'd be (happy to be) surprised at this point if it's going to do much good. If nothing else it's a full surface write test, and you could check afterwards that it's all been zeroed, hd showing just a few lines (as above) over the whole disk (dd if=/dev/ad4 | hd) We seem to have ruled out the remnants of a GPT problem, having Bruce and Warren to thank for pointing it out; it's bound to catch others. Your dd of the first 71 sectors looked right, MBR looks ok, sectors 1-62 are zeroes, boot1 and boot2 from sector 63-70 seem normal, after you used 'W' to write anyway; can't say for sure that the bsdlabel is ok, but see no reason to suppose otherwise. What says 'bsdlabel ad4s1' while you've still got one? Just be sure NOT to use the 'A' option for auto-partitioning again; I'm sure I saw some problem with that on 8.1, not sure if it's fixed on 8.2 (Bruce?) so I suggest allocating the BSD partitioning you really want. Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? If that worked you could still use sysinstall, skip fdisk and labelling steps and install the distributions, ports tree, doc packages and other sysinstall goodies. If it still persisted after that I'd subscribe and report the issue to freebsd-stable in as much detail as needed for some more fresh eyes. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 09:12:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3200A106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4E98FC16 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7459E8B45; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:12:04 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=Mt5K0YEfQiQI bWeFKB5It5IYqpw=; b=xg4yp9xonqqWirZf8AQOII52+lI9+l+hIPI+1jhC6pfA eHKransyQ3V5hqEV4lmuGhMhgDSnMQuzljmVCahFrUiFJ7yh9VCtFtshTdlOaWYL J23CsG2wcwNh/RLjHkIBjpWaJuWH5AABkVEh4viyV84IQoMaItcteslSXDOWfJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=VZcldq 4ADO2R0SGl5dxOdcaxwItFr/ROWrwCE5cyFK3j3tyQpX56NzM4qtld8l0wGLATmx PcCaUHJjFqr7fNcmFBLOKbWjfncgkcFeSIuI35y0hTawXTMWDckmm38NmXIgOQeC caUdj32IVBxxbNrN6TbtWU7+l93f3uq+Ig3W4= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 893ACE72B1; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:12:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:11:55 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20110106091155.00005a3d@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:12:06 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:06:42 +1100 (EST) Ian Smith wrote: > Just be sure NOT to use the 'A' option for auto-partitioning again; > I'm sure I saw some problem with that on 8.1, not sure if it's fixed > on 8.2 (Bruce?) so I suggest allocating the BSD partitioning you > really want. I've not fixed anything related to that. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 09:42:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F9D1065782 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8BA8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p069giY7080582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:42:45 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p069giY7080582 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294306965; bh=J+rn+hrZhyGCBy628bfKGVxlj1QvAjueNyCfv02Ias4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D258E8C.4020004@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2006=20Jan=202011=2009:42:36=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Jeff=20Whitman=20|CC:=20freebsd -questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Swap=20Space|References:=2 0<009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com>|In-Reply-To:=20<009b01cbad2 8$883d31c0$98b79540$@com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20i d=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sh a1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bo undary=3D"------------enig8662DB4B109285603E8F0542"; b=GJAiOOdSCUqlTsv1Jc82+gBpQz4pIAhKrDNWa+XBpDxFX9lKOlihaBcii6LKE4aWp 7g0g/f0CfGa8ky168W5J/L1Nj0n/IkPBuVP1AnY1hXgOtralNbbSN4ADxRlLddS2hQ g4V/lVpTD2N4WEcXWeG269KSlLtE2AA7/omU/MdQ= Message-ID: <4D258E8C.4020004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:42:36 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Whitman References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> In-Reply-To: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8662DB4B109285603E8F0542" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:42:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8662DB4B109285603E8F0542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/01/2011 22:33, Jeff Whitman wrote: > I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM= , > others say stay with 2 x RAM. Standard advice is 2x RAM -- but that dates back to the days when servers would have quantities of RAM measured in Megabytes rather than Gigabytes. 2 X RAM is a lot of disk space nowadays -- so either you'll need to find some other use for that space; eg. as a swap-backed /tmp partition, or else provide less swap. Also, there's a maximum of -- I think -- 8GB swap above which the performance of swap is degraded, due to algorithmic limits in the way memory pages are mapped onto disk pages. You need 1 x RAM + a few kB in order to support getting a crashdump. Or at least, you did before the days of minidumps. Not sure what the requirements are for getting system dumps nowadays. Swap space used for crashdumps should be a raw partition, not a file. On the other hand, for good performance you should not be using any significant amounts of swap in normal usage. You will need some swap, as the OS tends to use a small amount even when not under memory pressure. You should have swap to act as a buffer in case your machine suddenly starts using up more memory than you expect, either because of memory leaks, or due to demand spikes or through any number of other possible causes. Therefore, I think the best advice for a modern large memory system would be: If RAM > 8GB, then SWAP =3D 8GB[*] If RAM < 8GB, then SWAP =3D 1 x RAM + delta where delta is perhaps a Megabyte or so. Just rounding the partition size up to the next cylinder boundary should be enough (which happens automatically with most partitioning schemes). Cheers, Matthew [*] In this case, if you need crashdumps, you should dedicate another otherwise unused partition of the correct size as your dumpdev. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8662DB4B109285603E8F0542 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0ljpQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwuyQCeNYOXs+6mSeiKW0jvm/eNMb7z 4QEAnjA4wjZ4KmxMjlc98CbXxnDWNLaf =fNQu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8662DB4B109285603E8F0542-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 09:49:52 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D66106564A for ; 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z=Message-ID:=20<4D259034.6020805@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2006=20Jan=202011=2009:49:40=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20a=20perl=2 0question|References:=20<117654.42578.qm@web121409.mail.ne1.yahoo. com>=09=09<4D231CB7.2060902@teambox.fr>=20<86pqsc3774.fsf@red.stonehen ge.com>=09<20110105062401.GB74123@guilt.hydra>=09<20110105160514.G A94459@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com>=20<20110105221538.26daeb 0d@gumby.homeunix.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<20110105221538.26daeb0d@gum by.homeunix.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE9 08C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D= 0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D "------------enig9976880ABA0AD7D1E409BF71"; b=RXo2NChkm54+2gOaJRmgNP0bCh+xVexq6xX4DTi1ztZ33hSFq+yBlFVX5eIyheFO9 qfZWpj9plk89nNaptUxHkYrK6gA5G4/t4dCn/zi+IfWvEyPfZONCmKtdqvw8hpgzv+ JyysqRnh+99j+k0VkS2YtFbcZsVEIeQrs6MZshCc= Message-ID: <4D259034.6020805@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:49:40 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 05/01/2011 22:15, RW wrote: > Personally I find that using cat makes things simpler and less error > prone when reusing pipelines in shell history. >=20 > For example it's easier to edit=20 >=20 > cat file | foo >=20 > into=20 > =20 > cat file | bar | foo > or cat file? | foo >=20 > than editing=20 >=20 > foo < file >=20 > into >=20 > bar < file | foo > or cat file? | foo Little known factoid -- shell redirections can occur *anywhere* on the command line. % > foo cat abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz % < foo tr 'a-z' 'm-za-l' mnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijkl Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig9976880ABA0AD7D1E409BF71 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0lkDwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyiTwCgkPJtqjah8kNr++5uZ7TSfibc TpgAnjvj5xljgJNKcMx+snTkhsN4wyzh =0Qle -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig9976880ABA0AD7D1E409BF71-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 09:54:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0BB9106564A for ; 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Thu, 06 Jan 2011 01:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 01:54:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 03:54:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:54:25 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ian Smith wrote > Your dd of the first 71 sectors looked right, MBR looks ok, sectors 1-62 > are zeroes, boot1 and boot2 from sector 63-70 seem normal, after you > used 'W' to write anyway; can't say for sure that the bsdlabel is ok, > but see no reason to suppose otherwise. What says 'bsdlabel ad4s1' > while you've still got one? > This is a pretty easy problem to replicate if you are pressing W, and that "issue" has existed for quite some time. If you press W then Q at sysinstall fdisk then attempt to force write disklabel screens you will get the error. Just setup the slices and partitions as you want and let sysinstall handle the writing of information. There is a big warning box that says not to use force write except under certain conditions and this is not one of them. If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow > sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and > bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? > This doesn't say hardware error to me at all, at least not a disk hardware issue. The message was present across two disks, and if there truly is a problem writing to the media a complete zeroing of the drive would be apparent then. While we're getting people to look at sysinstall and the auto resizing, it would be nice to get the "Unable to create the partition. Too big?" issue resolved. You can trigger this by auto-sizing the partitions, deleting a couple and recreating one that a different size than one autosize suggested. Then create the second partion using the auto-populated value in partition size box. Typically run into this when making / a little bigger on amd64 installs by borrowing some space from /usr. It's very tedious to slowly decrease the size of the second partition in your attempts to create it if you're trying to utilize the whole drive. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 10:28:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0D6106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 414E28FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p06ASNf1016035; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:28:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:28:23 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20110106091155.00005a3d@unknown> Message-ID: <20110106201717.D49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106091155.00005a3d@unknown> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:28:33 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:11:55 +0000, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:06:42 +1100 (EST) > Ian Smith wrote: > > > Just be sure NOT to use the 'A' option for auto-partitioning again; > > I'm sure I saw some problem with that on 8.1, not sure if it's fixed > > on 8.2 (Bruce?) so I suggest allocating the BSD partitioning you > > really want. > > I've not fixed anything related to that. Oh, I must have dreamed it all; found nothing in local -stable archives, went hunting on sysinstall cvsweb but found anything there, don't know how to search svn yet; life's too short. Thanks for teaching some GPT. Sorry, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 11:26:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D580A106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nr1c0re@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB198FC19 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi10 with SMTP id 10so2575928pwi.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:26:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IlXB9ffxBB8URLQjJYgsu3ra0h5rb5Lq1oL80Quu1Y4=; b=gVUeyAQPf0gaTJyKANdN5jeIKRt3HzkTJVVrduRhMNrZJP+5hTALjp8JwzGVnSy2hU H4W7uvXLAwDHJLa2GI/Uv9N1K1yScmOGCjipmFSph3OUI6ivMRxlnp7LPdBNodbQ97Ym zVfGSG/aSqHVPZHAUTpwao457WlDQTLCNoFTM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=GCuUUTe5aasKWhWB0QKk9rPmcQUfe339dpX314uuRHGaW8eM1tilLqBxEWc67Gv2Wh DeW2+SywchqtgXednqCIbHdFMmezkf9+dnYg+gk0op8CtnbwqhDGH8Af36j3IvU5RZbn k3oU3ADDWzjv95a+tIVmWQT/2F7PsgbHJ+Xnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.170.9 with SMTP id s9mr667494wfe.187.1294313171999; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.58.6 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 03:26:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:26:11 +0300 Message-ID: From: c0re To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:26:12 -0000 # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 466M -9.8M 102% / So it's full. But by du it's not appeared to be full # du -hxd 1 / 2.0K /.snap 512B /dev 2.0K /tmp 2.0K /usr 2.0K /var 1.9M /etc 2.0K /cdrom 2.0K /dist 1.0M /bin 131M /boot 10M /lib 356K /libexec 2.0K /media 12K /mnt 2.0K /proc 7.2M /rescue 296K /root 4.7M /sbin 4.0K /lost+found 157M / I know that something (like running process) can hold file so it's actually are not deleted. I rebooted server. But this not helped, so it's not a process holding file. Checked with fsck # fsck / ** /dev/ad0s1a (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on / ** Root file system ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 47268 files, 238539 used, 15276 free (6684 frags, 1074 blocks, 2.6% fragmentation) No problems here. # uname -a FreeBSD host.domain.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue Dec 28 13:55:47 MSK 2010 root@host.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 What's the problem here? Why df says that filesystem is full? Other command may also say that can't write because file system is full. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 11:38:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A641065670 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from server.cwis.biz (70-89-202-5-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDC518FC1B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.cwis.biz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EB1262C2BB; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:38:55 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cwis.biz Received: from server.cwis.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by server.cwis.biz (server.cwis.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s4HKCs-FWABL; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:38:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.5] (70-89-202-1-invergrove-mn.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.89.202.1]) by server.cwis.biz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 99599262C2BA; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:38:53 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ryan Coleman In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 05:38:19 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: c0re X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:38:23 -0000 What about filehandlers? On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:26 AM, c0re wrote: > # df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 496M 466M -9.8M 102% / >=20 > So it's full. >=20 > But by du it's not appeared to be full >=20 >=20 > # du -hxd 1 / > 2.0K /.snap > 512B /dev > 2.0K /tmp > 2.0K /usr > 2.0K /var > 1.9M /etc > 2.0K /cdrom > 2.0K /dist > 1.0M /bin > 131M /boot > 10M /lib > 356K /libexec > 2.0K /media > 12K /mnt > 2.0K /proc > 7.2M /rescue > 296K /root > 4.7M /sbin > 4.0K /lost+found > 157M / >=20 >=20 > I know that something (like running process) can hold file so it's > actually are not deleted. I rebooted server. But this not helped, so > it's not a process holding file. >=20 > Checked with fsck >=20 > # fsck / > ** /dev/ad0s1a (NO WRITE) > ** Last Mounted on / > ** Root file system > ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes > ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames > ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity > ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts > ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups > 47268 files, 238539 used, 15276 free (6684 frags, 1074 blocks, 2.6% > fragmentation) >=20 > No problems here. >=20 >=20 > # uname -a > FreeBSD host.domain.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue > Dec 28 13:55:47 MSK 2010 > root@host.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL i386 >=20 > What's the problem here? Why df says that filesystem is full? Other > command may also say that can't write because file system is full. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 11:52:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8A1065672 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5922E8FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p06BqFrZ081976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:52:15 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p06BqFrZ081976 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294314735; bh=MWIpwi85wDLo976Xm0Nbe5jiBEi3Fy27SV0a+Fj9uNo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D25ACE6.2010703@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20T hu,=2006=20Jan=202011=2011:52:06=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20c0re=20|CC:=20FreeBSD=20|Subject:=20Re:=20/=20file=20system=20is=20full,= 20but=20du=20does=20not=20show=20that=20it's=20full|References:=20 |I n-Reply-To:=20|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C| Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=2 0protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"--- ---------enig8C8BDD90493370F87AC72378"; b=mHUywnOi/QjcEWe92koBmVYh5xCNfqwwOcKVAnmNEY1MuXn6IGpgsaRSjKupQ6qZP LKzNxJQVAwqG9WLpGXIJuqve6SS4VFs0F59MIxRGVjqGtf2rtviaaQ86ISyEoIJIfP mqQmEUU1oQz7FdX/BtUW1j3i9gOaLKSw1KZgCJR4= Message-ID: <4D25ACE6.2010703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:52:06 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: c0re References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8C8BDD90493370F87AC72378" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:52:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8C8BDD90493370F87AC72378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/01/2011 11:26, c0re wrote: > # df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 496M 466M -9.8M 102% / >=20 > So it's full. >=20 > But by du it's not appeared to be full >=20 >=20 > # du -hxd 1 / > 2.0K /.snap > 512B /dev > 2.0K /tmp > 2.0K /usr > 2.0K /var > 1.9M /etc > 2.0K /cdrom > 2.0K /dist > 1.0M /bin > 131M /boot > 10M /lib > 356K /libexec > 2.0K /media > 12K /mnt > 2.0K /proc > 7.2M /rescue > 296K /root > 4.7M /sbin > 4.0K /lost+found > 157M / >=20 Do you have partitions mounted at /tmp, /usr, /var etc? Does the output of your du command change if you unmount those partitions? (It might be an idea to boot into a livefs CD or DVD given that du(1) lives in /usr/bin, so a bit tricky to unmount /usr and then run du) My guess is that you've at one time created files beneath what is usually a mount point. Mounting the partition over them makes those files inaccessible, but they still take up space on the drive. 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I rebooted server. But this not helped, so >> it's not a process holding file. >> >> Checked with fsck >> >> # fsck / >> ** /dev/ad0s1a (NO WRITE) >> ** Last Mounted on / >> ** Root file system >> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames >> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity >> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts >> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >> 47268 files, 238539 used, 15276 free (6684 frags, 1074 blocks, 2.6% >> fragmentation) >> >> No problems here. >> >> >> # uname -a >> FreeBSD host.domain.com 7.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 7.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Tue >> Dec 28 13:55:47 MSK 2010 >> root@host.domain.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL =A0i386 >> >> What's the problem here? Why df says that filesystem is full? Other >> command may also say that can't write because file system is full. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" > > fstat does not show full filepath so I uses lsof from ports lsof does not show anything criminal # lsof / COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME init 1 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / init 1 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / init 1 root txt VREG 0,81 632348 33074 /sbin/init firmware 5 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / firmware 5 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / adjkerntz 145 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / adjkerntz 145 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / adjkerntz 145 root txt VREG 0,81 7448 16481 /sbin/adjkerntz adjkerntz 145 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 adjkerntz 145 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 devd 487 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / devd 487 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / devd 487 root txt VREG 0,81 369684 32969 /sbin/devd syslogd 564 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / syslogd 564 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / syslogd 564 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 syslogd 564 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 syslogd 564 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 rpcbind 650 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / rpcbind 650 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / rpcbind 650 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 rpcbind 650 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 rpcbind 650 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 snmpd 690 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / snmpd 690 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 92720 50743 /lib/libm.so.5 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 29916 50741 /lib/libkvm.so.4 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 18788 50761 /lib/libdevstat.so.= 6 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 1417668 50595 /lib/libcrypto.so.5 snmpd 690 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 sh 751 mysql cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sh 751 mysql rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 115388 33069 /bin/sh sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 88492 50751 /lib/libedit.so.6 sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 261484 50738 /lib/libncurses.so.= 7 sh 751 mysql txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 mysqld 800 mysql rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 140320 49370 /lib/libpthread.so.= 2 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 937368 57075 /lib/libc.so.6 mysqld 800 mysql rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 140320 49370 /lib/libpthread.so.= 2 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 937368 57075 /lib/libc.so.6 mysqld 800 mysql rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 140320 49370 /lib/libpthread.so.= 2 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 937368 57075 /lib/libc.so.6 mysqld 800 mysql rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 140320 49370 /lib/libpthread.so.= 2 mysqld 800 mysql txt VREG 0,81 937368 57075 /lib/libc.so.6 arpwatch 813 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / arpwatch 813 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 arpwatch 813 root txt VREG 0,81 146508 49381 /lib/libpcap.so.4 arpwatch 813 root txt VREG 0,81 937368 57075 /lib/libc.so.6 httpd 820 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 820 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 996912 49367 /lib/libcrypto.so.4 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 25596 49377 /lib/libkvm.so.3 httpd 820 root txt VREG 0,81 18560 49369 /lib/libdevstat.so.= 5 sshd 844 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sshd 844 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sshd 844 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 sshd 844 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 sshd 844 root txt VREG 0,81 70804 50768 /lib/libz.so.4 sshd 844 root txt VREG 0,81 1417668 50595 /lib/libcrypto.so.5 sshd 844 root txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 sshd 844 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 sshd 844 root txt VREG 0,81 60060 50745 /lib/libmd.so.4 sendmail 850 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sendmail 850 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 sendmail 850 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 sendmail 850 root txt VREG 0,81 1417668 50595 /lib/libcrypto.so.5 sendmail 850 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 sendmail 854 smmsp rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sendmail 854 smmsp txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 sendmail 854 smmsp txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 sendmail 854 smmsp txt VREG 0,81 1417668 50595 /lib/libcrypto.so.5 sendmail 854 smmsp txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 cron 860 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / cron 860 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 cron 860 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 cron 860 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 900 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 900 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 900 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 900 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 900 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 901 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 901 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 901 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 901 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 901 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 902 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 902 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 902 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 902 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 902 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 903 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 903 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 903 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 903 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 903 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 904 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 904 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 904 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 904 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 904 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 905 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 905 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 905 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 905 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 905 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 906 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 906 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 906 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 906 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 906 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 getty 907 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 907 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / getty 907 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 getty 907 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 getty 907 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 httpd 908 www cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 908 www rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 996912 49367 /lib/libcrypto.so.4 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 25596 49377 /lib/libkvm.so.3 httpd 908 www txt VREG 0,81 18560 49369 /lib/libdevstat.so.= 5 httpd 909 www cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 909 www rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 996912 49367 /lib/libcrypto.so.4 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 25596 49377 /lib/libkvm.so.3 httpd 909 www txt VREG 0,81 18560 49369 /lib/libdevstat.so.= 5 httpd 910 www cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 910 www rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 996912 49367 /lib/libcrypto.so.4 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 25596 49377 /lib/libkvm.so.3 httpd 910 www txt VREG 0,81 18560 49369 /lib/libdevstat.so.= 5 httpd 911 www cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 911 www rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 996912 49367 /lib/libcrypto.so.4 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 25596 49377 /lib/libkvm.so.3 httpd 911 www txt VREG 0,81 18560 49369 /lib/libdevstat.so.= 5 httpd 912 www cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 912 www rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 28768 58494 /lib/libcrypt.so.3 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 95120 49378 /lib/libm.so.4 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 64300 49385 /lib/libz.so.3 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 996912 49367 /lib/libcrypto.so.4 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 25596 49377 /lib/libkvm.so.3 httpd 912 www txt VREG 0,81 18560 49369 /lib/libdevstat.so.= 5 sshd 1424 root cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sshd 1424 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sshd 1424 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 sshd 1424 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 sshd 1424 root txt VREG 0,81 70804 50768 /lib/libz.so.4 sshd 1424 root txt VREG 0,81 1417668 50595 /lib/libcrypto.so.5 sshd 1424 root txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 sshd 1424 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 sshd 1424 root txt VREG 0,81 60060 50745 /lib/libmd.so.4 sshd 1427 milyar cwd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sshd 1427 milyar rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sshd 1427 milyar txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 sshd 1427 milyar txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 sshd 1427 milyar txt VREG 0,81 70804 50768 /lib/libz.so.4 sshd 1427 milyar txt VREG 0,81 1417668 50595 /lib/libcrypto.so.5 sshd 1427 milyar txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 sshd 1427 milyar txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 sshd 1427 milyar txt VREG 0,81 60060 50745 /lib/libmd.so.4 sh 1429 milyar rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / sh 1429 milyar txt VREG 0,81 115388 33069 /bin/sh sh 1429 milyar txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 sh 1429 milyar txt VREG 0,81 88492 50751 /lib/libedit.so.6 sh 1429 milyar txt VREG 0,81 261484 50738 /lib/libncurses.so.= 7 sh 1429 milyar txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 su 1433 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / su 1433 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 su 1433 root txt VREG 0,81 55240 50747 /lib/libutil.so.7 su 1433 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 su 1433 root txt VREG 0,81 60060 50745 /lib/libmd.so.4 su 1433 root txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 csh 1434 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / csh 1434 root txt VREG 0,81 319604 33030 /bin/csh csh 1434 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 csh 1434 root txt VREG 0,81 261484 50738 /lib/libncurses.so.= 7 csh 1434 root txt VREG 0,81 32024 50740 /lib/libcrypt.so.4 csh 1434 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 lsof 7330 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / lsof 7330 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 lsof 7330 root txt VREG 0,81 29916 50741 /lib/libkvm.so.4 lsof 7330 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 lsof 7331 root rtd VDIR 0,81 512 2 / lsof 7331 root txt VREG 0,81 189172 50770 /libexec/ld-elf.so.= 1 lsof 7331 root txt VREG 0,81 29916 50741 /lib/libkvm.so.4 lsof 7331 root txt VREG 0,81 1067248 50739 /lib/libc.so.7 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 12:12:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org 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h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d9AwAXZH7kMD+IJDHLFGU7332KW0x6Wy6dYB53icLyJAej8v4DKZy84L9eRY/ASNe6 5GzVd7yRUrw47BMseJmCfhPocMr65b6TuFMoI2TpG01jhmPywRSn1uXlBEswWhLUfK8a 2vIiuBJcU2uS+5dbDuDCKAsAvNnorRgeSphRY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.139.3 with SMTP id m3mr718164wfd.16.1294315921156; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 04:12:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.58.6 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 04:12:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D25ACE6.2010703@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4D25ACE6.2010703@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:12:01 +0300 Message-ID: From: c0re To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:12:02 -0000 2011/1/6 Matthew Seaman : > On 06/01/2011 11:26, c0re wrote: >> # df -h >> Filesystem =A0 =A0 Size =A0 =A0Used =A0 Avail Capacity =A0Mounted on >> /dev/ad0s1a =A0 =A0496M =A0 =A0466M =A0 -9.8M =A0 102% =A0 =A0/ >> >> So it's full. >> >> But by du it's not appeared to be full >> >> >> # du -hxd 1 / >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/.snap >> 512B =A0 =A0/dev >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/tmp >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/usr >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/var >> 1.9M =A0 =A0/etc >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/cdrom >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/dist >> 1.0M =A0 =A0/bin >> 131M =A0 =A0/boot >> =A010M =A0 =A0/lib >> 356K =A0 =A0/libexec >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/media >> =A012K =A0 =A0/mnt >> 2.0K =A0 =A0/proc >> 7.2M =A0 =A0/rescue >> 296K =A0 =A0/root >> 4.7M =A0 =A0/sbin >> 4.0K =A0 =A0/lost+found >> 157M =A0 =A0/ >> > > Do you have partitions mounted at /tmp, /usr, /var etc? =A0Does the outpu= t > of your du command change if you unmount those partitions? > (It might be an idea to boot into a livefs CD or DVD given that du(1) > lives in /usr/bin, so a bit tricky to unmount /usr and then run du) > > My guess is that you've at one time created files beneath what is > usually a mount point. =A0Mounting the partition over them makes those > files inaccessible, but they still take up space on the drive. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Cheers, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 7 Pri= ory Courtyard > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey =A0 =A0 Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Kent, CT1= 1 9PW > > Nice idea! But I can't check it now - server is may hundred km away and no KVM aviable. Will check it 1 or 2 weeks later. Checked only /tmp - it was ok, no files there after unmount. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 13:11:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9671065673 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466358FC14 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p06DBQ3U025758; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:11:27 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:11:26 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Adam Vande More In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:11:38 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ian Smith wrote > > > Your dd of the first 71 sectors looked right, MBR looks ok, sectors 1-62 > > are zeroes, boot1 and boot2 from sector 63-70 seem normal, after you > > used 'W' to write anyway; can't say for sure that the bsdlabel is ok, > > but see no reason to suppose otherwise. What says 'bsdlabel ad4s1' > > while you've still got one? > > > > This is a pretty easy problem to replicate if you are pressing W, and that > "issue" has existed for quite some time. If you press W then Q at > sysinstall fdisk then attempt to force write disklabel screens you will get > the error. Just setup the slices and partitions as you want and let > sysinstall handle the writing of information. There is a big warning box > that says not to use force write except under certain conditions and this is > not one of them. Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. We didn't get to try W)rite from the fdisk and label screens until long after all attempts at letting sysinstall deal with things had failed to even slice the disk, bombing on this error every time. Chris' disk is brand new, nothing installed. W)riting from sysinstall succeeded at least in creating ad4s1 in the MBR and writing the bootblocks to that slice. I made it very clear this is not something to do without due care; in the circumstances there was absolutely nothing to be lost. And then the GPT issue, of which I was totally ignorant. Fixed. > If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 I can't see anything there that informs any solution to this issue, that doesn't cover everything Chris has tried. If you can, please elaborate? > Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow > > sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and > > bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? > > > > This doesn't say hardware error to me at all, at least not a disk hardware > issue. The message was present across two disks, and if there truly is a > problem writing to the media a complete zeroing of the drive would be > apparent then. Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? If it's not hardware related (or HP firmware, as Mike suggested), maybe it is an issue with sysinstall. Manual fdisk & bsdlabel & newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but Chris will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that himself, they're out there. On the other hand it's useful learning, and nothing he tries can make matters any worse. [ I can't comment on auto-allocated partitions, the last time I thought that was even vaguely a useful idea was my first install of 2.2.6 :^] If you have any spare magic dust to sprinkle on this, please do so. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 13:57:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A081065670 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97ED8FC0A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (anonymizer2.torservers.net [174.36.199.200]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D43F5A82 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:39:51 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:57:34 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:57:47 -0000 Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/01/06 15:06:18 +0300 c0re => To FreeBSD : cr> # lsof / why not to restart your httpd and mysqld? This may release your unused filehandles. Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. And... why lsof and not fstat(1)? 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 14:06:17 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEFD8106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DFF8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (anonymizer6.torservers.net [174.36.199.203]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 742555A82 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:48:24 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:06:08 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110106140608.GB13482@external.screwed.box> References: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:06:17 -0000 Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/01/06 16:57:34 +0300 Peter Vereshagin => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : PV> This may release your unused filehandles. used but unlinked, really, oops. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 14:17:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E721065693 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D17178FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so9103530bwz.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:17:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:received :reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :content-type; bh=uQI7j/tmD5E537jwvjMGYahbTlbDYXla63atiWazt0g=; b=LGiFyth0fgA7eF3F1fSUUfhmLx/+GW+50OeK+qaETcqPQ1MDy9mHNCV5wcOrHIA94E WQ75lH6EyoEehuOVa/ZSCeswcqojBvslccwm540SWJDJv1/uf7X0z0+VwZ/bKUzmm5B0 TU6FP4Gq7DwJKvsR71TSjeMJO+i+ELVJRV89s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=NFf7AsL1f2NwX2IGdr9VCQ79TyL/Vl0YdK/oJxJZEJPA7I33JjLrnNM6h+0uGvRYZ5 LUm1ekx8fRYf6bxtvOSCaX/K/GWUzOxRkMvU0Y3lrhnphFyoqSNEwqh/10Y0brd5mmOQ aW3mSgxROzdGbnooQ8rKyeWS2KaydqH6iswwI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.68.65 with SMTP id u1mr18384433bki.193.1294323451222; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.52.19 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 06:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.52.19 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 06:17:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106140608.GB13482@external.screwed.box> References: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> <20110106140608.GB13482@external.screwed.box> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:17:31 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Peter Vereshagin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:17:33 -0000 Server has been rebooted before to try this. Chris -------- Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote, but K-9 can't yet do threading. On 6 Jan 2011 14:06, "Peter Vereshagin" wrote: > Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... > 2011/01/06 16:57:34 +0300 Peter Vereshagin => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > PV> This may release your unused filehandles. > > used but unlinked, really, oops. > > 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) > -- > http://vereshagin.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 14:19:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD2D106566C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nr1c0re@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13448FC1B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so3751689pzk.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:19:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vcfLpJb8gpOeMdgwzDAh7x8ScQ4LJawWRYwvCpPpvTI=; b=C6uaDO9yol3MKb2xJRAztMZPNlidMSsih52Ww17wDqi+xmdV6mkts2WW/nuAZU0qAQ ANYh29VtsKAGLtMZk9cuOQEU/pdq4DjhPw8VjZsvOlsmUxBnrxTiHLKPIwRM4KKZrGXn BpzAOU4G1SnF7lbbc1vHOCgdpRG+wt/C16nUw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ItRcUIublE+QLp0eXVIEeFt4ovGVmThcIfWY20q64cQDP/rlPJJEBKlGKMZh0E6IEH L/HenOOtKT7ETLHrDHowmA32KMg3y2DXrCf7QjK+XG5melQzFD5zobeCVyO9e0hBlhBp lxF1N4pDmdoZ22CkyOkHZwQVbVOHDiVRv7lQ4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.51.13 with SMTP id y13mr796514wfy.73.1294323545085; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.58.6 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 06:19:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> References: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:19:05 +0300 Message-ID: From: c0re To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Peter Vereshagin Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:19:06 -0000 > why not to restart your httpd and mysqld? > This may release your unused filehandles. As I said I've restarted whole server, so nothing there to release at all. > Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They > can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. Yeah, I checked /.snap - nothing there. > And... why lsof and not fstat(1)? As I mentioned - fstat does not show full path including filename like lsof does. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 14:21:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD59A106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:21:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E8C8FC15 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:21:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.4.11]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id D18AE23 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:21:41 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D25CFEF.4090600@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:21:35 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig3BC74A783EAF033C5F41AF57" Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:21:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig3BC74A783EAF033C5F41AF57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06.01.2011 15:19, c0re wrote: >> why not to restart your httpd and mysqld? >> This may release your unused filehandles. > As I said I've restarted whole server, so nothing there to release at a= ll. >=20 >> Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any= =2E They >> can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. > Yeah, I checked /.snap - nothing there. 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Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------enig3BC74A783EAF033C5F41AF57 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0lz/QACgkQODUnwSLUlKTMPgCeKJ1PWrcN/pg/6+ToHOMMVI12 rkoAoLIPHoKbgHlczeTRFB3RvdY2YZLO =uxjN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig3BC74A783EAF033C5F41AF57-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 14:31:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24903106566C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA34A8FC14 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [199.48.147.43]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7F805A82 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:13:28 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:31:06 +0300 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110106143106.GC13482@external.screwed.box> References: <20110106135734.GA13482@external.screwed.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: / file system is full, but du does not show that it's full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:31:23 -0000 Concrete jungle, oh freebsd-questions, you've got to do your best... 2011/01/06 17:19:05 +0300 c0re => To FreeBSD : cr> > Another place to look for wasted space is filesystem snapshots, if any. They cr> > can be created implicitly, e. g., by fsck. cr> Yeah, I checked /.snap - nothing there. snapshot is represented as a file of a special type that can be located anywhere oin a file system, not only the /.snap/. Try snainfo -a. 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 14:39:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1359F106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1FD8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so16133197qwj.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:39:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=pgAXfzrSgkYX5eezcBWHkwLhXCvsARY4aTSwdQzdCE4=; b=jW0oaMzyw6+AWJ1O/rzzhSHdE2Ob3fzZfm4Zgzmcxo9ANegHqUut2RT02IG/E1lpXm 0lsqeDqcS54zrYKXtLodJdDk27YJG14WNiFotOqRDhdcKjwEBfzKjKGEZRSBrgOLYYJQ T7nEBX3T4tNYsy67IZDlK7yRa4Mefby5kVhHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XjOY0xfYTyyso/FWY4de5cnbEOazG+fKfzD/gzuoZYAsb6f9nlyXDvt9wsZv3rUEjb n6gwhYgn9JiR4V9Q4Qpe70Ohm0lhx7kuCPXeG1DIBDUgkBaMf+afkJfwY7JX5QJaC+Yf hRF1rzHCqZJPj0v5g+EEECZHSqFPPr8ojzYNA= Received: by 10.229.230.198 with SMTP id jn6mr16457429qcb.61.1294324745827; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:39:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 06:38:33 -0800 (PST) From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:38:33 +0300 Message-ID: To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:39:07 -0000 Dear people, I have a strange problem. On one system that I am running, I cannot use sysinstall to do partition/label for a disk. This problem seems peculiar to this OS, somewhere. When I launch sysinstall, I get some funny message appear on the screen (see http://lix.in/-9b7e16 for an image). >From there I choose custom -> partition > Select the disk then enter partition editor. The cursor simply refuses to move from there, though keyboard is active. What may be the cause? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 14:53:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E7D106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@galador.org) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1968FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn39 with SMTP id 39so16586541iwn.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:53:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.31.71 with SMTP id x7mr7864785ibc.198.1294325604836; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 06:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.204 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 06:53:24 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [159.204.59.21] In-Reply-To: References: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 08:53:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Bryan H." To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blog-site questions.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:53:26 -0000 If you're looking to pay a little for this, I might recommend you check out Squarespace[1]. They have some great content management features and some wonderful templates, which are completely customizable. Probably the best way to see how it works is to view the tour[2]. And finally, you can get 14 days to try it completely free. You don't even need a credit card to sign up, and if you use the offer code "TWIT" (from the "This Week in Tech" podcast with Leo Laporte), you can get 10% off the price for the life of your account[3]. Even if you don't decide to go with Squarespace, I'd reinforce one thing Chris said: > If you want to promote some of your written work ... get a domain Perhaps you could use a sub-domain on your thought.org domain, but I would say that anyone using those free blog services (wordpress.com / blogger / livejournal) for a for professional reason, well... aren't very professional, in my opinion. ;-) Wordpress (the software)[4] is rather easy to install on your own servers, and has a nice, easy-to-use administration panel. There are tons of themes and plugins available for it, so it's quite customizable as well. Hope that helps some. :-) [1] http://www.squarespace.com/ [2] http://www.squarespace.com/tour/ [3] http://www.squarespace.com/twit [4] http://wordpress.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 15:18:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3906106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1FF8FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p06FE1qf085724; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:14:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p06FE0uA085723; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:14:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:14:00 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20110106151400.GA85633@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <009b01cbad28$883d31c0$98b79540$@com> <4D258E8C.4020004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D258E8C.4020004@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jeff Whitman , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swap Space X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:18:09 -0000 On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 09:42:36AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 05/01/2011 22:33, Jeff Whitman wrote: > > I'm finding conflicting data on this. Some say 0, some say 1 times RAM, > > others say stay with 2 x RAM. > > Standard advice is 2x RAM -- but that dates back to the days when > servers would have quantities of RAM measured in Megabytes rather than > Gigabytes. Of course, in those days disk space was measured in MBytes too. > > Also, there's a maximum of -- I think -- 8GB > swap above which the performance of swap is degraded, due to algorithmic > limits in the way memory pages are mapped onto disk pages. I don't know about an 8GB limit for swap performance. I suppose it is possible. So, the following formula from Mathew is probably a good new rule of thumb. > > You need 1 x RAM + a few kB in order to support getting a crashdump. Or > at least, you did before the days of minidumps. Not sure what the > requirements are for getting system dumps nowadays. Swap space used for > crashdumps should be a raw partition, not a file. ////jerry > > On the other hand, for good performance you should not be using any > significant amounts of swap in normal usage. You will need some swap, > as the OS tends to use a small amount even when not under memory > pressure. You should have swap to act as a buffer in case your machine > suddenly starts using up more memory than you expect, either because of > memory leaks, or due to demand spikes or through any number of other > possible causes. > > Therefore, I think the best advice for a modern large memory system > would be: > > If RAM > 8GB, then SWAP = 8GB[*] > If RAM < 8GB, then SWAP = 1 x RAM + delta > > where delta is perhaps a Megabyte or so. Just rounding the partition > size up to the next cylinder boundary should be enough (which happens > automatically with most partitioning schemes). > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > [*] In this case, if you need crashdumps, you should dedicate another > otherwise unused partition of the correct size as your dumpdev. > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 15:45:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5221F106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gibblertron@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3A18FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so15611882iyb.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 07:45:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/9yp51GWBsw8pEzPWpa7e48lRUpuIOPN12RhwT8S0xI=; b=aQImkwzQZq9T/Bi6mLiDj4mJPUkzEpVNei3BAgdqNF4ni1m/Vlp6ggRjxuhKAs7DOo +sC7Y3akzdTRO627cLQvwTLvwJcuG7Mp4HM8f2oX3rkRRRYa3MH7TmInHU8b6HMo2/UM l6ZNzpGy5ansvtfn1WIlQzrekjbHFYETUzzxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=rgE8l7DxKzSlDV2hN8/T36mqkvu3e/4V1nurYb/GiXDFuqwblWZ4UI9ULJlhAe0r4t Rh4kt0GtgkjxYxqNvl+WGu3ruKUnbwhr/x2mMsAFoLnxJaDelMvd82p0Zn1B5RLLrxQv ib6lFaBJHb+R3M5IrhXkjIKLTqrS6D1zsDhzg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.12.10 with SMTP id v10mr24409832ibv.171.1294328728408; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 07:45:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.13.70 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 07:45:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 07:45:28 -0800 Message-ID: From: patrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:45:29 -0000 I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the install/upgrade process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 15:57:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0DC106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D4A8FC16 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p06FrTO8085929; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:53:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p06FrSvR085928; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:53:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:53:28 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: patrick Message-ID: <20110106155328.GA85897@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:57:37 -0000 On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote: > I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a > binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running > 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a > remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, > and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the > install/upgrade process. It might work. But, I think you would save a lot of headache and time to just do a new scratch install of 8.xx (8.2 should be here soon). First, make a thorough list of everything that is installed on the old machine. List info from disk slice[s] and partitions and other configuration items. Then make copies (backups) of all user data and anything that needs to be kept from the old system and is not being newly installed from ports and such. Now would be a good/great time to replace/upgrade the hard disk or install a second (third..., etc) disk. Rethink the partitioning according to current usage and disk sizes. Then just build a new machine, configure it appropriately, install the ports and any other possible software - latest versions. Then restore all the user data that is needed on the new system and you should be ready to go. (Some old data may better be left in archive) ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 16:05:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6336B1065670 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:05:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.238.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 234938FC14 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 53843 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jan 2011 16:05:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1294329905; bh=tKgbT2FLVrYEaXTQSUDjTlEeU9lxQtwBZfS04DPJw4I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rcCZMyDafZikwGIfXMR5gm8xZTDDE8kt1uvGZQkqqU3/YD0aYGwPPSOPyH83w43c3f3yJrVyEXSJdUCLGFyXcUo4UnvHrixgPdo/S+QK9e/OMtX9rnrbTa/8Gcpv8sR13IM0MiklZZ1fQxLe/Yae/A1F9pEwFMZ4dZZBllzDE+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TzvozIHkjgSgSU1zU/G4xCUldPKjVKqnNbzhdhFqh7PcfROybYmDx1RjqOoJmHmKKe8X3u3PmKpgjgEgHSNVVCCTZsXzDZGjhs7k+oMRcEQRrjRZ/zM8thwv8durEDF6CLfCFOOdfXBAkFNuE4Q09VwaDt3+nKLDM6vrR5A4fPM=; Message-ID: <836594.49162.qm@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nuh2.0IVM1n9FonPq7JeBmHWR7FVJYou4tijxu_C7YBfohg u3d7U1qKlr80Kyg9Nqu9qAsRryIRZeDt3CPdBZr8lAL9tDudUZxcfHqNVpXU 0EKUZ4cVl.JsJl72hBNah17cb1lcddaBeYyff7o8fmFtou3P_v_Zbbwr4pFO .rZbAMl7u1rDZszl71AKcM_b8Hpg.L8FRgGpWFuMbTUGHpVp5J.hXfAhxmGm wodpC19R202dzQ.pJr0wShL4XTOQrcl2oxjCgDMSZyWKv2HVmjuVr4LkoMhB 0xEzROIlZjgdDc05_3NBN9UfxQ4C0lGBw_n4eb7zXI1F7VjyhXOKP8BNIWOR lFRiaU2JIixkZBQuDrqOy2Cb9cHHsthV5_4YNMxkiQ6_Gfa.GuykPxGtymEQ Yokf8XdZ2 Received: from [184.80.143.6] by web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:05:05 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.4.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 08:05:05 -0800 (PST) From: gahn To: Bill Moran , Indexer In-Reply-To: <22B48F74-6976-4DCB-8F3C-CE0D0D425173@internode.on.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: freebsd and X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:05:08 -0000 thanks. i am looking into the suggestions.=0A=0Abest=0A=0Agahn=0A=0A--- On = Wed, 1/5/11, Indexer wrote:=0A=0A> From: Indexer= =0A> Subject: Re: freebsd and=0A> To: "Bill Mora= n" =0A> Cc: "gahn" , "freebsd = general questions" =0A> Date: Wednesday, Jan= uary 5, 2011, 4:53 PM=0A> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----=0A> Hash: SHA1= =0A> =0A> =0A> On 06/01/2011, at 07:02, Bill Moran wrote:=0A> =0A> > =0A> >= (don't see why this was on -current)=0A> > =0A> > In response to gahn :=0A> >> hi all:=0A> >> =0A> >> i set up the freeradius 21.1= 00.1 on freebsd 8.1.=0A> it uses local authentication database of /etc/pass= wd (thanks=0A> to the previous discussions alan did with others). the=0A> p= roblem is: it only works with the condition of the server=0A> id running as= "root" instead of "freeradius" due to the one=0A> way MD5 hash of /etc/pas= swd file.=0A> >> =0A> >> are there any other better ways to implement=0A> t= his?=0A> > =0A> > a) Put the Radius server in a jail, so it can run as=0A> = root without all the=0A> >=A0=A0=A0security concerns.=0A> > b) Use somethin= g other than /etc/passwd=0A> authentication=0A> > =0A> =0A> Cant radius use= pam? perhaps you should look into that. =0A> =0A> It may be a pain though,= freeradius is largely=0A> undocumented, and what documentation exists is o= ften=0A> incomplete, incorrect and full of people touting "IT JUST=0A> WORK= S" when 99% of the time, It never works. Once you figure=0A> it out however= , its great. I would highly recommend putting=0A> your raddb into a version= control system. =0A> =0A> > -- =0A> > Bill Moran=0A> > http://www.potentia= ltech.com=0A> > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/=0A> > ______= _________________________________________=0A> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.o= rg=0A> mailing list=0A> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd= -questions=0A> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubs= cribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> William Brown=0A> =0A> pgp.mit.edu=0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----=0A> Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Da= rwin)=0A> =0A> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNJRKdAAoJEHF16AnLoz6Je6YP/j5sfpXOReiyviyNutut= zGfA=0A> dS+/6MoBfumuzdLAxTZ5gCJ4r7hIWJSbl0vPbt8zDbigcGJKcuT63dfdeAsV/7vu= =0A> /0KqeC1HbrS5mXB2bVVjUvxgm+LbTlTrS8pIkS3A1jWSvvYgqb5ABXL2gXDARJig=0A> p= Q5Ehw/mJsgNNmYOrHD1FV5H1/0s0arXSK6rK/sJa7qBIyuLvfuatfK2NOFlPAr5=0A> ST1UqvG= rEVP5vA4GGO3+l4m7CBIuzVBuVaLpTpsHUXcdjxoB0bgZrR6se42z7VFo=0A> PgClT1bKv/Ht8= rD9EO6oRpASAHB89/K1HpNvHbV9KT+veuKcla0xVPilpyt+XMES=0A> c4iDxwOBzml+N6QPiGd= D9+GhfvZbg2JBgHoGYFXclyDJFceiDVkMgTWN75miB+d4=0A> tMTZbtwkQNoobRmp/BCAlVqRJ= C3dUQeVqDSAUkuMf6ZU0WQWfh6g8qtGb0IA5mWH=0A> u0mRbBacEr4kx3bSeIzCb09DJMkDFmb= 1/kaQPVqUEYpU+ggW8yLV5sz/vdomdpRB=0A> 6hUfcXHnGK/GY4FsMPHaLTWghHdG6cFv8XwM/= 8ftsrCTtJYl0mD8xzSxqeTBCrua=0A> VPHcZ0d4gxe7reylYZfp8NqTAK96JBkRqEoTtYyi6Oi= y8kbolY8SHiok98o/uydT=0A> nGM30URjS7EC7oSyL4N5=0A> =3DppAO=0A> -----END PGP= SIGNATURE-----=0A> =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 16:27:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEDC1065693 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:27:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCDA8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2011 11:27:38 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AVN83539; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:27:32 -0500 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 06 Jan 2011 11:27:31 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19749.60786.530706.591346@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:27:30 -0500 To: patrick In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:27:39 -0000 patrick writes: > I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to > whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a > system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, > but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy > to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less > experienced through the install/upgrade process. While this may not be an option, my preference would be to 1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote location. Anything else is likely to be too painful for words. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 16:29:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40028106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh2.interactivevillages.com (wh2.interactivevillages.com [75.125.250.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0570C8FC19 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:29:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 97-113-166-177.tukw.qwest.net ([97.113.166.177] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh2.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pasii-0003g1-7E for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:29:49 -0800 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:29:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 08:29:48 -0800 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110106162948.GB13912@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh2.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: blog-site questions.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:29:54 -0000 --LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 05 January 2011: > Guys, >=20 > If there are any people who are into maintaining web logs/blog, this > might be _the_ place to ask. O/wise, type 'd' now. >=20 > One thing I've heard several times is that blogging is a good way of > promoting one's own books. (I've got at least three books either > published or to-be-published. [[ ... .]]) Now, outside this list > nobody knows me--and that's fine, except that with a just published > ebook, it's time to make my name and ebook public. Before I rush > out and sign up with some blogging websites, would be be better to > use a FBSD port and do it myself? >=20 > Ill be open about this: I'm still not _entirely_ sure whata blog is. > But I'm a fast study :) > If there are better places to ask about web logs, URL's please... . >=20 > gary >=20 > PS: Any reason why nobody here has read my ebook? It is for geeks > and about op en source stuff, so, like , v'mon, people=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Un= ix > Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org > The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" I use WordPress hosted on my own domains. As others have mentioned, it's pretty easy to maintain. It also does a lot of the SEO for you. For instance, when you add new content, the default configuration automatically notifies various ping servers so that aggregators (and Google) pick up the new content right away. Extensions can be found for just about anything you need, and they aren't that hard to write if you don't find what you're looking for. OTOH, WordPress can be pretty heavy on page loads unless you go to some pains to optimize it. For most people, that isn't a concern -- but if you were to have the enviable problem of getting a few thousand or more hits per day then it could become an issue. --=20 Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips= .com --LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNJe37AAoJEIpckszW26+RLCcIALaxm71Yq2joFynFqyvc3I5a T5Ke2f9aEjaxfrFHrZoRtu4PAFfffSMxyd1aLMKTIcyjAYS5xPA2EiyXLqfWVShd o29QgT3db2njqNtDf4ShurNlGpXHLujvXVuuo/8OkNDe/4SZIInIKvLewY86lWXm EzqHIpwj925IOlbJ1CAbfHHbGkTwV5zbsmgpnUHhVSuFZmBDw/wSpseIM1Nt/9WD E6ViN0h7/AiJF4miZG+bgkjeF1bAmZnSb46pV5UPVOggRPrtiyS4hzL2ai8ZBgn0 nyCjOLNw/v5KRViJduSNQEWT7gyucPCf4i4XXLIi/He9pGl78R5qudNCfD28/OA= =CXtq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LyciRD1jyfeSSjG0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 16:40:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97B7106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743EE8FC15 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:356c:daf:ee13:13d1] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:356c:daf:ee13:13d1]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p06GeWjZ052807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:40:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4D25F080.9050101@sentex.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:40:32 -0500 From: Mike Tancsa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: patrick References: <19749.60786.530706.591346@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <19749.60786.530706.591346@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 16:40:34 -0000 On 1/6/2011 11:27 AM, Robert Huff wrote: > > patrick writes: > >> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to >> whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a >> system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, >> but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy >> to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less >> experienced through the install/upgrade process. > > While this may not be an option, my preference would be to > 1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and > data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote > location. Anything else is likely to be too painful for words. How old is the hardware as well? If its running 4.x, something is going to die on it sooner than later. I agree with the above. Send a new box or at the very least a new disk with 8.2 on it. Then, just mount the old 4.x disk and copy over the user data. ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:02:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F8B106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6DB8FC15 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD29BE8B45; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:02:57 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=JUhrImvKV9QC 4wNAt3YIGaRLw4Q=; b=xCjAi7nB4t7O7glQ12pH+srKllFnhipCOIcvK4807TVv 7VTDIgK+LuErWU0Hc/gbeq+WNHTte2U5P5JrPtW7iT2EnJMc1PsEIDeTGS5JfU3E EK7SflhGy6XeGcI8jb2QjulKZ+J+wvtTffgWTh+gU4tQhsWucA6OtNd9pC1hjtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=BptnSV 8z/XYAag/2R+p8yssajnnIxIv6uyfP6EfshFnBkIyrZlkzqp/NrbaU5a3XVSB02F axLWXtdqHupLeQrgpU+qzGS94w8aj7554pUWpZZHcq12Y/AGNOsWktu5gg9+6FdK g4/Rx5Na1JL+MoPWavKQjYZUQdgVMYO6XbQXw= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 78842E61EE; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:02:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:02:46 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20110106170246.00001f25@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:02:59 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:38:33 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have a strange problem. On one system that I am running, I cannot > use sysinstall to do partition/label for a disk. This problem seems > peculiar to this OS, somewhere. > When I launch sysinstall, I get some funny message appear on the > screen (see http://lix.in/-9b7e16 for an image). > >From there I choose custom -> partition > Select the disk then enter > partition editor. The cursor simply refuses to move from there, though > keyboard is active. The problem is that geom has been extended with additional types (e.g. glabel, gsched) that libdisk doesn't know about - so it gets confused. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:13:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8851106566C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588E28FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so16131566qyk.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:13:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=o/GESNMqYkc1slj0FH6tr+eveoX5ZpShPQd9cB3xIKE=; b=ueL/CVkNBBSKSL31td5w+UrqCv/VmyXUQCTpImP7J4SBTwiogseb27WBbQYBemLt9j +WUFr7TGEiRIhSuecy8VeXzMxFnSgaQkUQRPCUcyPcBpZs6WsXHx1+bLXZpN9jHLqZYt fizSf4Htnu9Wl/GQcJIpyuteqgpTHsVmaB8RA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=fQ0J+BEjFBt6amluFwlVl7PY0YRTyoItB8ylQsNSB/syBBOCqsLKxRQr04kgWJRBdI MSORLkXi0lzcpd6Sp2yeVFwkzxbt0xX+ZUG8XECI1jSCCgAC7JzxE60tclJsuizYBoH+ XG20g5HP3UkCj8T/8YsNV07SRqscGkFZSyM1c= Received: by 10.229.95.200 with SMTP id e8mr21221114qcn.213.1294334018539; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:13:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:13:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106170246.00001f25@unknown> References: <20110106170246.00001f25@unknown> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:13:08 +0300 Message-ID: To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:13:39 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:38:33 +0300 > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > I have a strange problem. On one system that I am running, I cannot > > use sysinstall to do partition/label for a disk. This problem seems > > peculiar to this OS, somewhere. > > When I launch sysinstall, I get some funny message appear on the > > screen (see http://lix.in/-9b7e16 for an image). > > >From there I choose custom -> partition > Select the disk then enter > > partition editor. The cursor simply refuses to move from there, though > > keyboard is active. > > The problem is that geom has been extended with additional types (e.g. > glabel, gsched) that libdisk doesn't know about - so it gets confused. > > So, how do I fix/manoeuvre around that problem? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:18:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C78B106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:18:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530E88FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC05E8B45; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:18:22 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=hRI2bLI4gv1O E9eyJ7WG3xAkeGA=; b=R2cd0yUpT0qzlfBSpQ09afim6DTXABvpv6sXT8otzoce ZmltrOHj8ni6eQViNHKRqOfufFcFD9954lFvGK0DIQoeTlQVe98e8yyOvVJcw2Bm 43MphkiyqqMPfwehxn0r/4c0t3uM5sBcqDvuU6HEy5WVuGo/6CERVCYqwNibJls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=ZT2E96 tbokUARyVjcUft15X19N8y5BBjuYRYTmkJ+BMHQ5nekQN4a3ub/l2fhmrlj7NYT4 Xom5g8DuyuQGsvyH01pvsRcGr0e2ZSGr/UyfO/hAU5Nv/pDVIYrrAEX6zTJm5y16 K6jk4kyYjiKWKJ86LZcSjkkS+Vjzd9nb0zvhg= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3ACA5E61EE; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:18:22 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:18:11 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <20110106171811.00006e86@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20110106170246.00001f25@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: sysinstall error on 8.2-PRE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:18:23 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:13:08 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > So, how do I fix/manoeuvre around that problem? Unfortunately you'd need to use a different tool to partition/label the disk, such as gpart. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:37:22 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB828106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lydia@lydiarowe.com) Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8764A8FC0A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:37:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcahe.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.74]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21ABD17AA81 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from homiemail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E0594074 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:05:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=lydiarowe.com; h=subject:from :reply-to:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=lydiarowe.com; b=YV8wQhQ2c80 sdob7kPvS8TY6x3yYW5nac/H+UoRr+0lNHt5Dt/EhA0DrkSb8GqnKeXvdDLAToD+ v1YQlaolx7+KGHgPSHEwT8Kha0uaSZbBZHvM58O+2vxxKfoyRf1mLAN1JimAm2ZM 155sNI88mcjqYU/Vy+pe0b03IjUZNyyU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=lydiarowe.com; h=subject :from:reply-to:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; s=lydiarowe.com; bh=juF4hjQnaYPQwBPSa l+CUaioukE=; b=P2BZYhem/zZrW36fI/IIDS0zQ4CGaSUyMPjo0t48MS5K8NVR1 4vf4BBRjrX9lwUulSP841NnnkovDcc6u0t8hdE4bYjR0odu5Q/4/h8seo7uxsExm mMVWFEfA0CfWJyWy6rfEQtB1/Us/p9mq568qko8x3vHsSRPdpSMQuJ8yWw= Received: from [192.168.1.27] (c-67-163-183-25.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [67.163.183.25]) (Authenticated sender: lydia@lydiarowe.com) by homiemail-a33.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3E5C4594069 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:05:46 -0800 (PST) From: Lydia Rowe To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:04:12 -0500 Message-ID: <1294333452.23056.8.camel@avogadro> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lydia@lydiarowe.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:37:22 -0000 Hi! I'm encountering this most curious error on a fairly new FreeBSD 8 machine and I'm just not sure where to go with this. The Error: Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: Losing ./qfp06HuRGB001600: savemail panic Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere uname -a: FreeBSD .root 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 UTC 2009 root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Unless my understanding of mathematics is way off, I've got more than enough room: Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 496M 180M 277M 39% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev /dev/ad0s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp /dev/ad0s1f 24G 5.7G 17G 26% /usr /dev/ad0s1d 1.3G 18M 1.2G 1% /var Any insight on what is happening/causing this would be beyond awesome. :). -- Lydia Rowe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:47:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39731106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE42E8FC1C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.85] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p06HlZha007267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:47:36 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4D260039.4090004@ifdnrg.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:47:37 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lydia@lydiarowe.com References: <1294333452.23056.8.camel@avogadro> In-Reply-To: <1294333452.23056.8.camel@avogadro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:47:39 -0000 On 06/01/2011 17:04, Lydia Rowe wrote: > cannot save rejected email anywhere "savemail panics" occur when sendmail is unable to deliver a bounced message to the postmaster alias. (from googling :) http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/savemail_panic_in_Sendmail.html -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:48:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E9B1065679 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:48:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjr@cruwe.de) Received: from cruwe.de (t1850.greatnet.de [83.133.124.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D8E8FC27 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4738 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2011 17:48:22 -0000 Received: from p57bdfc9c.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO dijkstra) (smtpallow@87.189.252.156) by t1850.greatnet.de with ESMTPA; 6 Jan 2011 17:48:22 -0000 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:48:23 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110106184823.19e2f03c@dijkstra> In-Reply-To: <20110105233612.5eba8509.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20110105221939.GA77626@guilt.hydra> <20110105233612.5eba8509.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/gJ1=7VI9sT7yfQXPkn+95jI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Polytropon Subject: Re: the GIMP and Samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:24 -0000 --Sig_/gJ1=7VI9sT7yfQXPkn+95jI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:36:12 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > Welcome to the glory of rapid application development and > "modern" programming! :-) Somebody could write a letter to the ACM: "Dynamic Linking Considered Harmful" ... or sth in that vicinity=20 --=20 Christopher J. Ruwe TZ GMT + 1 --Sig_/gJ1=7VI9sT7yfQXPkn+95jI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNJgBuAAoJEJTIKW/o3iwUgbkP/3s76gClwnQzFNST12wH9awD ckQpZXrcEibLMg/J2/+4bXTINylhC0JtpxpjyW4WjrdygnOo17X50aSCq3zTAd5g 07Cb9RDMmb5zQmOEpw+CuGFruKN7OdwB3MakRxfZaCCwNJuNeDSWcJjn26ptTLlU hl9+rcf+a9cytkA9hYKV2OAtOfrk9kyHjTg74NCwxYJp6+dSIhILFfak+zwYw3Gk WdOPhWRslEjv6bAxuaxT2eOBOXT4jCPf7BWuY/JMEbCuiEYnMkcXSfTdPRvq+QSr Z+zsaqvDqaQiv0kAiKkG6gXPypml+PQRQANmri5GXHEiZc9ohvT3j+V7xv4U7vVg YHNBTo4CjCmrTraIcR+SI/787+nrwGvnIpowi8mFL/EqKSyAxpznPokHvGJb4b2R kIIBU6yLtM3QWfA8W3k0eYNxiVGBZqd7OiuxduL5tgxVUCjsp1/wZnR7R+nP0OyW lTGXiyR1C2ElQlRW/2rMazZbtkFdL0bVNRkqvHV6QAcv/YL41f9usvSBb+4Fv2L9 8W5D5xKlWdC0zGl7wVvumgaAQirBUFQr/4apeM/MlQWZ45DeAyJwhkk0StJWEPRa vG4n1l5MlTiI5eH9XTItk2AqRekSCMMDj7bmUCvph/Dd3gpxT57HyFulG9Lpno3z yGVc7N7Dlc+uNRP6x3FZ =C6Sm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/gJ1=7VI9sT7yfQXPkn+95jI-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:53:31 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D64106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:53:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E628FC14 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22DE60.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.222.96]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p06HrSki026922; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:53:29 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p06Hs15I034810; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:54:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p06Hrp2P052205; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:53:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201101061753.p06Hrp2P052205@fire.js.berklix.net> To: lydia@lydiarowe.com From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:04:12 EST." <1294333452.23056.8.camel@avogadro> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:53:51 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:31 -0000 Lydia Rowe wrote: > Hi! > > I'm encountering this most curious error on a fairly new FreeBSD 8 > machine and I'm just not sure where to go with this. > > The Error: > Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: > Losing ./qfp06HuRGB001600: savemail panic > Jan 6 12:56:31 sendmail[1600]: p06HuRGB001600: SYSERR(root): savemail: > cannot save rejected email anywhere > > > uname -a: > > FreeBSD .root 8.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Nov 21 15:48:17 > UTC 2009 > root@almeida.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > Unless my understanding of mathematics is way off, I've got more than > enough room: > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/ad0s1a 496M 180M 277M 39% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev > /dev/ad0s1e 496M 14K 456M 0% /tmp > /dev/ad0s1f 24G 5.7G 17G 26% /usr > /dev/ad0s1d 1.3G 18M 1.2G 1% /var > > > Any insight on what is happening/causing this would be beyond > awesome. :). > > -- > Lydia Rowe When I've had that err message I check my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf is up to newest release to match the .mc & binaries from source, then check all path in the .cf exist, & check access permissions. Then the problem goes away. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 17:55:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5CE106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lydia@lydiarowe.com) Received: from homiemail-a34.g.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdccac.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392378FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homiemail-a34.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a34.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC961005D; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:55:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=lydiarowe.com; h=subject:from :reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s= lydiarowe.com; b=O4MjEpe5WsRwMfxT5KsnnRNCVX1DLkOELUtPnIYuWL1Xnov J/UdnYDFFE0p6mZhzqxf4zMSZLdYqqiAmNS6MfOJu3OHM2KEKMPkorxvHHUEDFfc wgJm8CTQ4bOcD1ty2HWsx4lNrGUhG3XmR+xJb7cfqTTy8aGCJc8pyvoo2vTU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=lydiarowe.com; h=subject :from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; s= lydiarowe.com; bh=8FGvrkpwk1HO+zbNoCwxkzhA7iM=; b=dib0FlUn87paGU i8acOfE54zrr250Nw05v71aErv2VN1UZbxPxmmeJvkeCR3ifsDLUnry2PC8b0N/X ujTxJ9ZIxiclLm721UZbdhmBhZQiiJrXSKdkoz14NSr/MQOjDEcALQaKU5HSIEOv 8H0ZQWedg6uIK352350MBDWHny6zQ= Received: from [192.168.1.27] (c-67-163-183-25.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [67.163.183.25]) (Authenticated sender: lydia@lydiarowe.com) by homiemail-a34.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 52B7F10075; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 09:55:52 -0800 (PST) From: Lydia Rowe To: Paul Macdonald In-Reply-To: <4D260039.4090004@ifdnrg.com> References: <1294333452.23056.8.camel@avogadro> <4D260039.4090004@ifdnrg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:54:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1294336458.23056.10.camel@avogadro> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sendmail panic - savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lydia@lydiarowe.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:55:53 -0000 On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 17:47 +0000, Paul Macdonald wrote: > On 06/01/2011 17:04, Lydia Rowe wrote: > > cannot save rejected email anywhere > > "savemail panics" occur when sendmail is unable to deliver a bounced > message to the postmaster alias. > (from googling :) > http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/savemail_panic_in_Sendmail.html > Ah, thank you. That helped. In case these archives help someone in the future, here's what hapened: Armed with this information, I took another run at the logs and there was a problem with the hostname, which was: .root Yeah, so I updated the hostname and savemail isn't panicking anymore and neither am I. :). Thanks, all! -- Lydia From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 19:32:58 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D951065674 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:32:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471D58FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so16244695fxm.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nKo2VBm2RDu9WKzCepMeOOdXC6BGGKcnQgmn6FkB7PA=; b=A2TPAbq85Wrz/BjW7+CFEscpSLa63EMgFQoKglFbINidPljpEUKtnT4ay0bvsO8cPH ulyi/XSBRxoKdhgZSk5cPq4+/xhTLrZSIcFS/rVY3AlfQ7Xhu7JhdUc6M2vOiogGfeKc dX/TxvleHUSAc/6pFELV5U3zuGyWr4uGjW8cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Ri+nH8esZjzkC7NyH8Dshftf4vZllDByrDm4J90iAqEpZsg07OvfQjJTETt+/jjiUr YjeXhUJ0ZuUKIusP96idmhA/xpz9aULij7bIzDXMfSur1mVVsew7qlhnLT6sKqWqJXRt zWntD2j6gS7rLFAnY7M+FK/HZxGhKinIPnL1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr3089750faq.51.1294342377212; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:32:57 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:32:58 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in > this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to > help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; > I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. > Actually, I've been following every post since the thread's inception. Despite your listing of generally good advice, the most obvious cause theis error msg(of an admitted newbie) was not explicitly ruled out. I'm simply saying you should start there. > Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? > Earlier in the thread, the OP stated he tried to install on a Micro SD card and got the exact same result. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 19:51:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5211065670 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79ED8FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so16263449fxm.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:51:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+B3wIzj/r0uP7CUxcEnSv5CG9IVsLNm0601SC1Na4uE=; b=C84PsTEt+oaG0PnYw35+vwTRPsoVHNwBxskl7YUOIlAxAqEiJZP5tLc9YJTOY7FtMy XxZ1x3Ba/CJZREUBzRUvzFcz9k22Hp6Kva+GJt8pqooqk3lKMXPs/+x4YVUFMM0Zhx+L asz82uom0n8wGn2UhTMWQPkxcOwtXW+l2tG50= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bwB1QQh85xNE+fBHhPTHGpIOhGlGLooHAIGAlZtVu/YpINkzGueB8FzzEmv/Y1n5/2 vn31yw8Sp8NIA080g+B9MSbvcp20z58OonX3ZC9aFt9fYOZ6Ko62QINhwwPJBNP6gKr6 2Ft4rasPf/cf8DAWwBeW92JCaqfCDerS1aP7U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.97.78 with SMTP id k14mr886205fan.89.1294343482647; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.114.4 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:51:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:51:22 -0600 Message-ID: From: Adam Vande More To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:51:24 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > >> Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in >> this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to >> help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; >> I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. >> > > Actually, I've been following every post since the thread's inception. > Despite your listing of generally good advice, the most obvious cause theis > error msg(of an admitted newbie) was not explicitly ruled out. I'm simply > saying you should start there. > > >> Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? >> > > Earlier in the thread, the OP stated he tried to install on a Micro SD card > and got the exact same result. > I see now the SD Card was not the install target, but regarding the the original point to OP was able to preform other normal operations on the card eg different FS. I don't really think the OP was pressing W initially which is why I didn't say anything earlier, just saying it's worth a check. -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 19:57:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B11106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA968FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 19:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so9422884bwz.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:57:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sF38nrkmuHSAfAbOLllm8BCYm6rHtCjyfeY2R7HuHOc=; b=GZ/XVNj1jK8I8GsFpXA2UjR4A7rmp1C8ukwSCs9TOBPorPPc2/ciKJQkPEZSHJL4zA caLx2dSk38ZV6qeLJgqXJeJGJ84quK2x76SvOPwSgHRWJ20BpIZRVdnQMP0d0FFcT05W BKI5W0icua+ZWjq/t1vkyJOpg5hGgOHqwYX8g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=aGQrkbuwCmFJHRq92pDwIqwyMPEk80vEbQVvsgqf/OSu0f99EGqRJmpcn4wCRlsKGJ yuqzDrqSTSRcEX6zhlZS0jHaFV6MQN9bKW58h1CfEht6tQSwv+9TRIplpqT9PScCDGeP 7pS04spFFLQEv4Og7AA6t+6GWtQpzN6FFfLao= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.9 with SMTP id t9mr8488225bkb.183.1294342458198; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:34:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: vrwmiller@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.14.132 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:34:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:34:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DvIa6EO3pXgBOQBMonS8yvR3hIs Message-ID: From: Rick Miller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Configuring BCE Interrupt Coalescing on 8.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:57:37 -0000 Hi All, I am looking to configure interrupt coalescing for a bce interface in 8.1-RELEASE. Everything I have found via google only points to the bce manpage, which only identifies that interrupt coalescing is supported with no information with regards to configuring it. Where can I find information on configuring it? -- Take care Rick Miller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 20:34:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63241106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email2.allantgroup.com (email2.emsphone.com [199.67.51.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C6D8FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 20:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email2.allantgroup.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p06K7JOQ082655 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:07:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p06K7Jf4085300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:07:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p06K7JOM085299; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:07:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:07:19 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Rick Miller Message-ID: <20110106200719.GC75125@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.4 at email2.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (email2.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:07:20 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 199.67.51.78 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring BCE Interrupt Coalescing on 8.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:34:25 -0000 In the last episode (Jan 06), Rick Miller said: > I am looking to configure interrupt coalescing for a bce interface in > 8.1-RELEASE. Everything I have found via google only points to the bce > manpage, which only identifies that interrupt coalescing is supported with > no information with regards to configuring it. Where can I find > information on configuring it? After a quick readthrough of the source, it looks like it's always enabled unless you had built the driver with BCE_DEBUG enabled. The values aren't exposed via sysctl for you to view or edit. http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/bce/if_bce.c?v=FREEBSD81#L1012 -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 21:00:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421F610656E6 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1213C8FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0D929E8081F; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:00:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:00:30 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: "Bryan H." Message-ID: <20110106210030.GA6928@thought.org> References: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blog-site questions.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:00:32 -0000 On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 08:53:24AM -0600, Bryan H. wrote: > If you're looking to pay a little for this, I might recommend you > check out Squarespace[1]. > > They have some great content management features and some wonderful > templates, which are completely customizable. Probably the best way > to see how it works is to view the tour[2]. > > And finally, you can get 14 days to try it completely free. You don't > even need a credit card to sign up, and if you use the offer code > "TWIT" (from the "This Week in Tech" podcast with Leo Laporte), you > can get 10% off the price for the life of your account[3]. > > Even if you don't decide to go with Squarespace, I'd reinforce one > thing Chris said: > > > If you want to promote some of your written work ... get a domain > > Perhaps you could use a sub-domain on your thought.org domain, but I > would say that anyone using those free blog services (wordpress.com / > blogger / livejournal) for a for professional reason, well... aren't > very professional, in my opinion. ;-) > > Wordpress (the software)[4] is rather easy to install on your own > servers, and has a nice, easy-to-use administration panel. There are > tons of themes and plugins available for it, so it's quite > customizable as well. > > Hope that helps some. :-) > > [1] http://www.squarespace.com/ > [2] http://www.squarespace.com/tour/ > [3] http://www.squarespace.com/twit > [4] http://wordpress.org/ I don't know what happened to my .signature before, but I already have several virtual/sub domains. i have already begun to promote Journey at journey.thought.org. I've also [finally] joined Facebook, and begun reading books and articles on howto promote one's own books. If, as Chris suggests, sites like Blogger.com are for blogging, why not use a free site there? Or build out my own page called, eg, journey.yhought.org/myblog/? Most of my day is spent on one of my project areas [[ BTW, my "speech-computer" project has actually proved out(!)]]. In just the past few days I have begun building out my amazom.com site and asking questions on their forums. I haven't paid much attention to blogs so far. I occasionally ramble on about what's on my mind on my transfinite.thought.org site, but I check, double- and triple-check my facts and then footnote them. So back to the idea of my getting into blogging as a means of promoting: is a blog suppose to be a factual discussion? Opinions? Gossip? This has helped, thanks. I don't think blogging is going to help me that much because there aren't that many of us geeks, and certainly many fewer with disabilities. I'll look at our wordpress port and see. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 21:12:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C31106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:12:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90FC8FC15 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so16341763fxm.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:12:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:12:27 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > I see now the SD Card was not the install target, but regarding the the > original point to OP was able to preform other normal operations on the card > eg different FS. > > I don't really think the OP was pressing W initially which is why I didn't > say anything earlier, just saying it's worth a check. > There is also this issue here which looks to be quite similar. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=135040&cat= You can try to upgrade your BIOS and reduced physical memory or use the suggested loader.conf setting(or boot prompt) -- Adam Vande More From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 21:21:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E48106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9328FC0A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk32 with SMTP id 32so3816562pzk.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:21:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=C5SjjUdxK+vIEPMWzieWzsclxelDPklkoAoahi57ME0=; b=TUdSh8XtvOcwabS/1bFGcbKQs62MQIOJ3QfZ7wHzQULiB/b7U4ag7RQ2HoD0TFYQ7r Ul8FaaQ6SHkV+QVE7bfmriB6kPxNG0Arnqmd+/ztqS96cqSE4BdI/04rZW2se15yqk3g sa/sK35RMNnyZqdb9irUJg575AN+P6qXTyg6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nyGYLZbDhfOdFN9qHKlPn9NEboIdReDiF+vfOSYgqp+VIls9Svd3d5oC66gbaWGATm HIT1sSpNWfB3GAuxeRHxzzKbOSqzdq7lqaXoHnodBFeNLhtnBra0SUp6BvBMwdTp4oiO CnSNm6ywa1LUUytAXLmlpHJ0uDUzNnpVLP0mk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.11.9 with SMTP id 9mr1123434wfk.59.1294347355313; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.218.3 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 12:55:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:55:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: grarpamp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:21:57 -0000 I know I'll take heat from everyone else who responded saying to effectively ship a new box. But maybe this user has significant costs involved with that. Along with any other reasons... v4 to v8 can be done. I've done it entirely live over the net. Nothing crazy about it. The basic idea is that there are too many changes and tools involved to fart around with build/install world, mergemaster, CD's, sysinstall, etc. And they're just not aware of such a jump. And you can't trust the idiots on the other end to get it right even if they would work. You are the SA, free your mind. To the initiate, it would be harrowing. To the seasoned SA, it's logical cake. So backup your entire 4.x box over the wire, there will be no return. Go find a box and install v8 however you want it. If you fail, this one goes to the shipper asap. You can use a vm but that will take longer to ship. You are very wise to also install a v4 box and overlay your backup on it first for testing the entire process. If you failed to heed SA wisdom about separating / /usr /usr/local /var /home /boot, free space, etc on the original v4 box, your life will be much harder. But if you have a ton of unpartitioned free space on it, you can fix that one at a time too ;) Be very aware of boot sectors, loaders, partitions, slices, fstab, sizes, /dev, ifconfig, packet filters, kernel config, etc. That kills most people. Also, since all your apps will be pristine v8 vers, you need to sort out their use of the old data and config. If you have space, rsync -Haxi upload your v8 mountpoints to separate staging dirs on the v4 box. It helps narrow your power fail window :) Get on the v4 box. If you've got console, re boot -s. If not, take it down till only init, sh and sshd remain. If you have space, rsync your current v4 mountpoints to some backup dirs. You're going to need static versions of rsync, openssh, sh, su, and any other tools. You'll need to kill and run the static sshd... re: fstat, umount, libs, etc. If you want, truncate /etc/rc to load only static sshd from /root. This gives you some chance at recovery. Again, do a local trial run to figure out what, where and when you want or need all the tricks and in what order. Mount everything read-write and rsync -Haxi --delete from your v8 staging dirs (whether local or remote) over top of the live but now library freed v4 mountpoints. Reboot ;) Don't forget to lay down new boot sectors etc as and when needed during or after the above. It works, don't complain to me or this list if you break it :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 21:23:08 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CFE10656C8 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FC78FC1E for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:23:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by thought.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 212E9E809E6; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:23:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:23:07 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20110106212307.GC6928@thought.org> References: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> <20110106162948.GB13912@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110106162948.GB13912@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Re: blog-site questions.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:23:08 -0000 On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 08:29:48AM -0800, Chip Camden wrote: > Quoth Gary Kline on Wednesday, 05 January 2011: > > Guys, > > > > If there are any people who are into maintaining web logs/blog, this > > might be _the_ place to ask. O/wise, type 'd' now. > > > > One thing I've heard several times is that blogging is a good way of > > promoting one's own books. (I've got at least three books either > > published or to-be-published. [[ ... .]]) Now, outside this list > > nobody knows me--and that's fine, except that with a just published > > ebook, it's time to make my name and ebook public. Before I rush > > out and sign up with some blogging websites, would be be better to > > use a FBSD port and do it myself? > > > > Ill be open about this: I'm still not _entirely_ sure whata blog is. > > But I'm a fast study :) > > If there are better places to ask about web logs, URL's please... . > > > > gary > > > > PS: Any reason why nobody here has read my ebook? It is for geeks > > and about op en source stuff, so, like , v'mon, people > > > > > > -- > > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix > > Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org > > The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I use WordPress hosted on my own domains. As others have mentioned, it's > pretty easy to maintain. It also does a lot of the SEO for you. For > instance, when you add new content, the default configuration > automatically notifies various ping servers so that aggregators (and > Google) pick up the new content right away. Extensions can be found for > just about anything you need, and they aren't that hard to write if you > don't find what you're looking for. > > OTOH, WordPress can be pretty heavy on page loads unless you go to some > pains to optimize it. For most people, that isn't a concern -- but if > you were to have the enviable problem of getting a few thousand or more > hits per day then it could become an issue. T.Y! WOrdpress it is. (Last time I checked, I gave up at once--maybe sooner. Time for a more serious look.) gary > > -- > Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterling@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F > http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com | http://chipsquips.com -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 21:27:20 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EE910658E1 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB9B8FC19 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p06LRFfD026041; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:27:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p06LRFTE026038; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:27:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:27:15 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Ian Smith In-Reply-To: <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Message-ID: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:27:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: Bruce Cran , Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions , Chris Brennan Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:27:20 -0000 On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Ian Smith wrote: > Manual fdisk & bsdlabel & newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but > Chris will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that > himself, they're out there. Aha! http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html May/may not be helpful, but the price is right. Feedback welcome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 21:41:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531A1106566C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E1A8FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so7613338eyf.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.31.209 with SMTP id z17mr18200065ebc.12.1294350090421; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:41:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 13:41:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106210030.GA6928@thought.org> References: <20110106041332.GA24859@thought.org> <20110106210030.GA6928@thought.org> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 16:41:10 -0500 Message-ID: To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "Bryan H." , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: blog-site questions.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:41:32 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > I don't know what happened to my .signature before, but I > already have several virtual/sub domains. i have already begun > to promote Journey at journey.thought.org. I've also [finally] > joined Facebook, and begun reading books and articles on howto > promote one's own books. If, as Chris suggests, sites like > Blogger.com are for blogging, why not use a free site there? > Or build out my own page called, eg, journey.yhought.org/myblog/? > > Blogger and the like are for blogging, of a personal nature. For those that don't have the cash or the expertise to set something up of their own. If you have a large friend-base on Facebook, then you can certainly promote your (e)book(s) there. That will get you exposure in the social-networking realm. If you have the domain already (thought.org) then branching off of that with something like name.books.thought.org or thought.org/BookBlog/that I would go that route (again, wordpress would be ideal to start with here). The goal here is that you don't want to look too amateurish. That could hurt what reputation your trying to build. > Most of my day is spent on one of my project areas [[ BTW, my > "speech-computer" project has actually proved out(!)]]. In just > the past few days I have begun building out my amazom.com site > and asking questions on their forums. I haven't paid much > attention to blogs so far. > > I think you meant amazon.com? it is good that your "speech-computer" project has proven itself. I occasionally ramble on about what's on my mind on my > transfinite.thought.org site, but I check, double- and > triple-check my facts and then footnote them. So back to the > idea of my getting into blogging as a means of promoting: is a > blog suppose to be a factual discussion? Opinions? Gossip? > > transfinite.thought.org has the rudimentary feel of an editoral/blogging site already, this would be a good start ... you could fire up wordpress and port your articles from transfinite to wordpress (copy/paste or any other means avail.) as a base and then you can move into promoting your (e)Book(s). The purpose of the blogging site is to make yourself known, basically as an independent reporter (at least that's how I've always viewed it). To answer your last series of questions here. The blog will be anything you want it to be, including all of these. I would suggest visiting blogger.com, livejournal.com and a few others you can find and read the public blogs there. You will find a large majority of them very amateurish, but you will find some that are very well done. Both in visual appeal and structure of the written word. > This has helped, thanks. I don't think blogging is going to > help me that much because there aren't that many of us geeks, > and certainly many fewer with disabilities. I'll look at our > wordpress port and see. > Well, it could help, in conjunction with other promotion tools. If you are published, then your books will get assigned ISBN/ISBN13 numbers, you can then promote and talk about the fact that your books are listed on amazon, barns & noble, etc, from a personal standpoint. Blog about your experiences of being a new writer, being published for the first time, etc, etc. It's an open door to make with as you please. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 21:50:11 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858FB1065674 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFD78FC21 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [208.206.78.30] (port=52809 helo=dt.vicor.com) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Paxii-0002Hu-F0; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:50:10 -0800 From: Devin Teske To: grarpamp In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Vicor, Inc Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:50:08 -0800 Message-Id: <1294350608.19428.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-41.el4) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scan-Signature: 192eb18ea76f745c09fff0a19cc4b1ce X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:50:11 -0000 Sharing some of our experiences here at VICOR. On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 15:55 -0500, grarpamp wrote: > I know I'll take heat from everyone else who responded saying to > effectively ship a new box. But maybe this user has significant > costs involved with that. Along with any other reasons... Our company is in that situation. In fact, we have: >1000 systems still running FreeBSD-4.11 >200 systems still running FreeBSD-4.8 >1 system still running FreeBSD-4.4 and 1 system still running FreeBSD-2.2.2 The >200 4.8 systems are actually in the process of upgrading to 4.11 this year (go ahead... roflmao your heart out). Later this year, we plan to migrate ~500 systems from 4.11 to 8.1 and we plan to do it with a binary upgrade package (of our own design). > > v4 to v8 can be done. I've done it entirely live over the net. > Nothing crazy about it. Confirmed. We've done it too. Nothing special. > > The basic idea is that there are too many changes and tools involved > to fart around with build/install world, mergemaster, CD's, sysinstall, > etc. And they're just not aware of such a jump. And you can't trust > the idiots on the other end to get it right even if they would work. > You are the SA, free your mind. To the initiate, it would be > harrowing. To the seasoned SA, it's logical cake. > It takes time to be thorough, but if you're thorough there's no reason to fear a binary upgrade. In fact, you can logistically break it down into the following procedure: - Take vanilla 4.x host-one - Take vanilla 8.x host-two - Diff host-one to host-two - Build binary differential package - Package pre-install regresses the machine by uninstalling all packages - Package post-install builds the 8.x box back up with new packages > So backup your entire 4.x box over the wire, there will be no return. > In our 4.x->8.x binary upgrade, we have a back-out strategy because we've been doing binary upgrades for years. In essence, our company started on FreeBSD-2.2.2, then did binary upgrade to 4.4. Then binary upgrade to 4.8. Then binary upgrade to 4.11. Now binary upgrade to 8.1. The backout strategy is essentially to re-install the "4.11 upgrade" package (downgrading from 8.1 back to 4.11). But really... in over 10 years, we've never had to "back out" a binary upgrade (the procedure to do so has been documented and there, but in the tens-of-thousands of binary upgrades we've done, we've never had to back it out... not even once). > Go find a box and install v8 however you want it. If you fail, this > one goes to the shipper asap. You can use a vm but that will take > longer to ship. You are very wise to also install a v4 box and > overlay your backup on it first for testing the entire process. If > you failed to heed SA wisdom about separating / /usr /usr/local > /var /home /boot, free space, etc on the original v4 box, your life > will be much harder. But if you have a ton of unpartitioned free > space on it, you can fix that one at a time too ;) > > Be very aware of boot sectors, loaders, partitions, slices, fstab, > sizes, /dev, ifconfig, packet filters, kernel config, etc. That > kills most people. Also, since all your apps will be pristine v8 > vers, you need to sort out their use of the old data and config. > > If you have space, rsync -Haxi upload your v8 mountpoints to separate > staging dirs on the v4 box. It helps narrow your power fail window :) > > Get on the v4 box. If you've got console, re boot -s. If not, take > it down till only init, sh and sshd remain. If you have space, rsync > your current v4 mountpoints to some backup dirs. > > You're going to need static versions of rsync, openssh, sh, su, and > any other tools. You'll need to kill and run the static sshd... re: > fstat, umount, libs, etc. If you want, truncate /etc/rc to load > only static sshd from /root. This gives you some chance at recovery. > Again, do a local trial run to figure out what, where and when you > want or need all the tricks and in what order. > > Mount everything read-write and rsync -Haxi --delete from your v8 > staging dirs (whether local or remote) over top of the live but now > library freed v4 mountpoints. > > Reboot ;) > > Don't forget to lay down new boot sectors etc as and when needed > during or after the above. > > It works, don't complain to me or this list if you break it :) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Cheers, Devin Teske -> CONTACT INFORMATION <- Business Solutions Consultant II FIS - fisglobal.com 510-735-5650 Mobile 510-621-2038 Office 510-621-2020 Office Fax 909-477-4578 Home/Fax devin.teske@fisglobal.com -> LEGAL DISCLAIMER <- This message contains confidential and proprietary information of the sender, and is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. 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If you have received this message in error, please notify the e-mail sender immediately, and delete the original message without making a copy. -> END TRANSMISSION <- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 22:36:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C814106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFF08FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so7911277ewy.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.36.2 with SMTP id r2mr10727250ebd.51.1294353370511; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:36:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:35:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:35:50 -0500 Message-ID: To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:36:12 -0000 GMail threadding don't fail me now! On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Adam Vande More wrote: > This is a pretty easy problem to replicate if you are pressing W, and that > "issue" has existed for quite some time. If you press W then Q at > sysinstall fdisk then attempt to force write disklabel screens you will get > the error. Just setup the slices and partitions as you want and let > sysinstall handle the writing of information. There is a big warning box > that says not to use force write except under certain conditions and this is > not one of them. > > If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 > > > pressing 'W' was a last resort option, by no means was I starting off that way. > Failing that, I can't see other than a hardware issue, unless somehow >> sysinstall is broken and you may do better manually running fdisk and >> bsdlabel and newfs per Handbook and manuals? >> > > This doesn't say hardware error to me at all, at least not a disk hardware > issue. The message was present across two disks, and if there truly is a > problem writing to the media a complete zeroing of the drive would be > apparent then. > > No, only one disk. > While we're getting people to look at sysinstall and the auto resizing, it > would be nice to get the "Unable to create the partition. Too big?" issue > resolved. You can trigger this by auto-sizing the partitions, deleting a > couple and recreating one that a different size than one autosize > suggested. Then create the second partion using the auto-populated value in > partition size box. Typically run into this when making / a little bigger > on amd64 installs by borrowing some space from /usr. It's very tedious to > slowly decrease the size of the second partition in your attempts to create > it if you're trying to utilize the whole drive. > > > -- > Adam Vande More > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 22:39:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4063F1065670 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f200.google.com (mail-qy0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028A08FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk35 with SMTP id 35so10111947qyk.7 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:39:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.186.12 with SMTP id cq12mr10577672vcb.20.1294353544744; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:39:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106200719.GC75125@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: <90e6ba53a7803f98710499352be0@google.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:39:04 +0000 From: vrwmiller@gmail.com To: Dan Nelson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Rick Miller , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Configuring BCE Interrupt Coalescing on 8.1-RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:39:06 -0000 Thanks, Dan! I'm not well versed in C...glad you were able to help me out with that! On Jan 6, 2011 3:07pm, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Jan 06), Rick Miller said: > > I am looking to configure interrupt coalescing for a bce interface in > > 8.1-RELEASE. Everything I have found via google only points to the bce > > manpage, which only identifies that interrupt coalescing is supported > with > > no information with regards to configuring it. Where can I find > > information on configuring it? > After a quick readthrough of the source, it looks like it's always enabled > unless you had built the driver with BCE_DEBUG enabled. The values aren't > exposed via sysctl for you to view or edit. > http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/bce/if_bce.c?v=FREEBSD81#L1012 > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 22:39:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D6010656A9 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:39:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90748FC20 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so7912247ewy.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.114.3 with SMTP id c3mr661951ebq.51.1294353578760; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:39:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:39:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:39:18 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:39:40 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in > this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to > help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; > I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. > > We didn't get to try W)rite from the fdisk and label screens until long > after all attempts at letting sysinstall deal with things had failed to > even slice the disk, bombing on this error every time. Chris' disk is > brand new, nothing installed. W)riting from sysinstall succeeded at > least in creating ad4s1 in the MBR and writing the bootblocks to that > slice. I made it very clear this is not something to do without due > care; in the circumstances there was absolutely nothing to be lost. > > And then the GPT issue, of which I was totally ignorant. Fixed. > > I agree, you seem to be lumping me into a generalization based on the errormsg. > > If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: > > > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 > > I read this, while that PR Reporter claims the same error message, the conditions in which s/he gets it _are not_ the same conditions in which I am getting this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 22:41:16 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E818E106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:41:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773678FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so7912691ewy.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.105.205 with SMTP id u13mr881218ebo.25.1294353674550; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:41:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:40:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:40:54 -0500 Message-ID: To: Adam Vande More Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:41:16 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > >> Adam, I think you may have missed a lot from the earlier messages in >> this thread. Admittedly it's long and likely tedious, but trying to >> help somebody get the OS installed is about as basic as it gets for me; >> I'd be hugely relieved if someone with more / better clues took it on. >> > > Actually, I've been following every post since the thread's inception. > Despite your listing of generally good advice, the most obvious cause theis > error msg(of an admitted newbie) was not explicitly ruled out. I'm simply > saying you should start there. > ... > > >> Chris has this issue with one disk only, so I'm not sure what you mean? >> > > Earlier in the thread, the OP stated he tried to install on a Micro SD card > and got the exact same result. > > Ney, I was having general issues w/ my card-reader and slow write speeds, that has been solved. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 22:42:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613FF106564A for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AD38FC16 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so7635449eyf.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:42:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.109.9 with SMTP id h9mr879254ebp.38.1294353766687; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:42:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:42:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:42:26 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:42:49 -0000 > > > If you google the error message in the OP, the first result is: >> > >> > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1675 >> >> > I read this, while that PR Reporter claims the same error message, the > conditions in which s/he gets it _are not_ the same conditions in which I am > getting this. > Thread poster* sorry for that one From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 22:54:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F03106566B for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D7E8FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so7915891ewy.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:54:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.36.2 with SMTP id r2mr10736842ebd.51.1294354493083; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:54:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:54:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101230133126.O36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Adam Vande More , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:54:55 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Ian Smith wrote: > > Manual fdisk & bsdlabel & newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but Chris >> will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that himself, they're >> out there. >> > > Aha! http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > May/may not be helpful, but the price is right. Feedback welcome. > Can I bow at your feet?!? This gave me just enough of a clue to go back and arbitraility pass 'gpart delete -i 1 ad4' which actually deleted a partition! I then zeroed the first 73 and the last 33 blocks of the drive. fdisk still complained about 'Class not found' which I googled and found to be an artifact of gpart(8). So my question is this now, once gpart has touched a disk, does it have the partition-aids now? Moving on, I then continued the standard process listed by your link, bsdlabel'd my layout and saved it, when I do an 'ls -lsga /dev | grep ad4' I see that I have partitions a,b,d,e,f and I was able to newfs each one of them Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at this point then all should be good when I reboot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 23:05:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EFE106566C for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA948FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601FBE8B45; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:05:00 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=QAry5a3NGKDO PE63GUfvFzzn/R8=; b=BOCuhw2djo3k58oMSszwo+sJ7QVjeZda6IelfWygy4z1 8S1QcLpwi5q4hj7+3TBSK4pu9Kq1n2vlbrsNdCvua1cXBcUcUWO9yOVxE+TvO7EH ZMcqqUpQTKEr2HlYSXItLGiG17QyqKmWUzzaHbHYD3cWylA39DLlXpSEAH2N1wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=lJSzBg dAe3abcpHeWUAa6usSZ09ANFWOGPxZmprNV/kAcGerENCFDrr4ID81Gj/LHOP4Sw jbTLlr6A+mX/XsmNjSRnSdF6GTMqAwN/9peIBsWt5fBqohRFSY0WPyk1wprz9uee h5IfBxGY5KJw6I+CvGyU4RoNU0U/JAvpeV3vY= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C7D0E61EE; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:04:56 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:04:35 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: Chris Brennan Message-ID: <20110106230435.000023ad@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adam Vande More , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:05:02 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:54:32 -0500 Chris Brennan wrote: > Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a > manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at > this point then all should be good when I reboot. http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition has a good guide for installing the base manually (you can ignore the gpart and zfs commands if you want). I found I had to copy the base and kernel directories from the install ISO to a UFS-formatted USB stick first though since the LiveFS CD doesn't have the distributions. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 02:41:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F7C1065696 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 02:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4B58FC0A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 02:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so7962136ewy.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.36.2 with SMTP id r2mr10847055ebd.51.1294368091867; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:41:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:41:11 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Brennan Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: To: Bruce Cran Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:41:34 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition has a good guide for > installing the base manually (you can ignore the gpart and zfs > commands if you want). I found I had to copy the base and kernel > directories from the install ISO to a UFS-formatted USB stick first > though since the LiveFS CD doesn't have the distributions. > > -- > Bruce Cran > Bruce, your a lifesaver! +1 for you and your wiki page. +1 for Warren's page ( http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_old_standard_way_tt_fdisk_8_tt_and_tt_bsdlabel_8_tt) and +5 for Ian and his incredible patience. Hodgepodging Warren's and Bruce's pages together got me a working base. Laptop is now installed w/o the assistance of a boot cd or the usb hard-drive I was using. I did have to grab a DVD of 8.1 and burn it to a DVDRW, just so I could get access to /dist/8.1-*. That being said, I think I am going to look at setting up that same external hd w/ a full 8.2-R root when it's ready, so I have a full, local tree to utilize for weird installs like this (I don't know why I never did that before) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 04:48:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8EE1065672 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 04:48:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7BB8FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 04:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p074mK9w027273; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:48:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p074mKlF027270; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:48:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:48:20 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Chris Brennan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-902635197-1145199264-1294375700=:27251" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:48:21 -0700 (MST) Cc: Bruce Cran , Adam Vande More , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:48:25 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---902635197-1145199264-1294375700=:27251 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Warren Block wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jan 2011, Ian Smith wrote: > > Manual fdisk & bsdlabel & newfs would confirm that or otherwise, but Chris will have to hunt up mans, docs and howtos on doing that himself, they're out there. > > > Aha! http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > May/may not be helpful, but the price is right.  Feedback welcome. > > > Can I bow at your feet?!? This gave me just enough of a clue to go back and arbitraility pass 'gpart delete -i 1 ad4' which actually deleted a partition! I then zeroed the first 73 and > the last 33 blocks of the drive. fdisk still complained about 'Class not found' which I googled and found to be an artifact of gpart(8). destroy -F is supposed to mean "Forced destroying of the partition table even if it is not empty." But compare to this thread on the forum earlier today: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=20731 Maybe -F isn't quite as brutal as it needs to be. > So my question is this now, once gpart has touched a disk, does it have the partition-aids now? GPT does seem to be tenacious, and I'm wondering if maybe there's something left in RAM that's written back to the disk on shutdown. > Moving on, I then continued the standard process listed by your link, bsdlabel'd my layout and saved it, when I do an 'ls -lsga /dev | grep ad4' I see that I have partitions a,b,d,e,f > and I was able to newfs each one of them > > Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at this point then all should be good when I reboot. I would just boot the install CD, enter q and the fdisk screen, enter the mountpoints and q at the label screen, and let it do the rest. ---902635197-1145199264-1294375700=:27251-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 05:25:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A20106564A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 05:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857FD8FC16 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 05:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so7987940ewy.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.36.2 with SMTP id r2mr10918672ebd.51.1294377954902; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:25:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:25:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20101229120038.3DFB0106591A@hub.freebsd.org> <20101231105353.S36121@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110102102255.00004f57@unknown> <20110102230702.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110103022619.O49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110104143245.P49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110105152725.U49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106160720.B49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20110106230849.H49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 00:25:33 -0500 Message-ID: To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Adam Vande More , Ian Smith , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 05:25:57 -0000 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Warren Block wrote: > destroy -F is supposed to mean "Forced destroying of the partition table > even if it is not empty." But compare to this thread on the forum earlier > today: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=20731 > > Maybe -F isn't quite as brutal as it needs to be. > > I still can't find any documentation on this in the manpages? HA! I just finished skimming the above thread, -F is indeed new and not in 8.1. I am going to set up a local mirror of 7.x, 8.x and HEAD over the next week and if I remember, I'll be sure to check it out and see if it does infact exist in 8.2. > So my question is this now, once gpart has touched a disk, does it have >> the partition-aids now? >> > > GPT does seem to be tenacious, and I'm wondering if maybe there's something > left in RAM that's written back to the disk on shutdown. > > Sneaky ... but possibly not likely since I more then once pulled the plug and didn't give it time to actually write anything. Either way, between your link and Bruce's, all is well. > > Moving on, I then continued the standard process listed by your link, >> bsdlabel'd my layout and saved it, when I do an 'ls -lsga /dev | grep ad4' I >> see that I have partitions a,b,d,e,f >> and I was able to newfs each one of them >> >> Next question, from this point (at the fixit prompt) can I preform a >> manual install of just base? if I can get the system installed at this point >> then all should be good when I reboot. >> > > I would just boot the install CD, enter q and the fdisk screen, enter the > mountpoints and q at the label screen, and let it do the rest. See, I did that the first time and it all came to a screaming halt. That's when I started to get creative with Ian. I'm going to take a stab in the dark and blame Seagate for kludging the disk on me. Either way, a manual fdisk and bsdlabel did the trick, it's got to be something in sysinstall not liking what ever was written there by gpart... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 07:05:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF601065674 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sayedtdm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AAB8FC12 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:05:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so16658031fxm.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:05:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language :x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; bh=Bw98Vgk+WGsUK9LfDz7dpAD4P41FAe7MEBvamxt2Dno=; b=rvcQpJGIkS060zVs/58giCu4lWOeURSdFQCX1QEGdkWIDPsuubZ+E75aDQcPglPYax CQqjutQDgNuScvpRV5/2WBVfenleNF/o491ZmPFA6uYQH8BO5Uzo6W5gdOoCit7F3hFE uRKDaPPaAZzJ80hTiG7lub8x3HRkoosQlfG+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; b=HMBPz5bb9i+d1LDafGsHhcI/Qba8vZNP86PJkKcawMfpKtbWTGgtsSdTt74ZoOpEQV 3hqXvFlxdeP/Olj0EPHHUyltl45G5Kl6sndqD5cEhW0bVYRj/qoxaQBV8C3NSBuMNE6L kSYKCDPj6liUK+ahxPcO4jhiMKQx86A44aHmw= Received: by 10.223.103.6 with SMTP id i6mr2428864fao.84.1294382458638; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:40:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from MyBackypPC ([188.248.170.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z1sm6063769fau.45.2011.01.06.22.40.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:40:56 -0800 (PST) From: "Sayed Nimer" To: References: <20110106195131.7D3D410656B5@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20110106195131.7D3D410656B5@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:39:42 +0300 Message-ID: <04ca01cbae35$ace5c470$06b14d50$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Acut22jtjdLFYuI6QPW00lPX882obgAWBYYQ Content-Language: ar-sa x-cr-hashedpuzzle: CPLl Cs3w DKoD Dgnp ErkV FF+f FfmU Fqfu GDmn GeCk Hlml HwkZ InKW JRmO JUP2 KeBW; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {77B54EEE-019D-44CD-8E4B-06511123F373}; cwBhAHkAZQBkAHQAZABtAEAAZwBtAGEAaQBsAC4AYwBvAG0A; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 06:39:40 GMT; TQBhAG4AYQBnAGUAIABCAGkAbgBkADkAIAB0AGgAcgBvAHUAZwBoACAAdABoAGUAIAB3AGUAYgAsACAAUABvAHcAZQByAEQATgBTACAAYwByAGEAcwBoACAAbQB5ACAAcwB5AHMAdABlAG0AIABhAHQAIABzAHQAYQByAHQAdQBwAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {77B54EEE-019D-44CD-8E4B-06511123F373} Subject: Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:05:24 -0000 Hello, I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so I can add/edit zone. I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my requirements. I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was working fine. When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many errors can't find mysqlserver. Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or the PowerDNS problem. Thanks and have a nice day. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 07:56:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6B0106564A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f54.google.com (mail-bw0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07ADF8FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz12 with SMTP id 12so9769003bwz.13 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:56:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:sender:received :in-reply-to:references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Xz8X7RLje3GPEI7EcUnPm3pLSNQpqcgCl1lm38r1IUI=; b=TgK0FNu5qLoY2H5bx/Ew6x+7Y9oODqgNrzTZukrwGIWFZLNkxBl6rD332sq+72EsBl KnB8ilkPfs7DyQjT9Xjm3iNIq2qnxOG9v4bTMoQj5Vvhm/OaEIiBYCDUFDrJIA3xTkLL GzRKLGvjp1tgWipjiEYbcVHewbnMTxHC3OtUo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=OR8NoSI51vzzzBySgTkLCmwzHEB8p48fmzSCdMvdaTh66V9rVCnt2EWquNZVplQi3C AFk/Ubo1SvqrCgOQbYKU2v7OX1aupDS3vNlyAW0XG5xLfZnKVqhGIs9HgOvbORLrUj30 IK9eACwlpBL1AbvfyGE/GjDNR4hVvL7ATizEE= Received: by 10.204.80.70 with SMTP id s6mr9569036bkk.142.1294385254906; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:27:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: abalour@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.45.65 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 23:27:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <04ca01cbae35$ace5c470$06b14d50$@com> References: <20110106195131.7D3D410656B5@hub.freebsd.org> <04ca01cbae35$ace5c470$06b14d50$@com> From: Ross Cameron Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:27:13 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dgC3KqoAi_dVhOB0Q46XXuAEEzM Message-ID: To: Sayed Nimer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:56:46 -0000 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Sayed Nimer wrote: > Hello, > I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so I > can add/edit zone. > I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my requirements. > I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was > working fine. > When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many errors > can't find mysqlserver. > Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or the > PowerDNS problem. > Thanks and have a nice day. > Have you tried making sure that the MySQL daemon is started /BEFORE/ PowerDNS and Apache is started? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 10:03:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C05106566B for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325BD8FC15 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so17026404wwf.31 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:03:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nfKwMYJs9H8uC3ChjRfAKCKeuJtMmTUKz4RSXBNUgfg=; b=RIx4lRdzk4x4ubLq2dL1HiRuy6RkU7EdC0nNHKFxA5QW4VVQJg6BIARCbdI4OUxKF6 I4gOdBBKw0HxrmtPgf8OPeqM8W71jjGv0icbvjUegAXqKP39Aachz9WDtMg9/rplKhi6 9UsXcQqH5XasdjXxwUvkx3agJqKpL7UgzDAk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=bWlb7znLDq+XJLfbYla7R/WiEe/adD8Dtz3mJE37aoRoDPgH+ADXYbijye3eKjHFc2 lWOFWUqxLa9NPvta0Ci7SgMH3wiSZyO0LI958/ccz/eth5HwVRnhuVxallXgKUakI6gi 4CpF1pWMIFNW2ybHpr19zrcPZtp+KUUFAAeRQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.186.208 with SMTP id w58mr1355260wem.59.1294394609030; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.151.72 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 02:03:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D25F080.9050101@sentex.net> References: <19749.60786.530706.591346@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4D25F080.9050101@sentex.net> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:03:28 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Mike Tancsa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: patrick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:03:30 -0000 On 6 January 2011 16:40, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/6/2011 11:27 AM, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > patrick writes: > > > >> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to > >> whether a binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a > >> system running 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, > >> but it's at a remote client site where it's not going to be easy > >> to do it that way, and I'm going to need to guide someone less > >> experienced through the install/upgrade process. > > > > While this may not be an option, my preference would be to > > 1) build a new machine, 2) install 8.1, 3) install the apps and > > data, 4) test thoroughly, then 5) ship the result to the remote > > location. Anything else is likely to be too painful for words. > > How old is the hardware as well? If its running 4.x, something is going > to die on it sooner than later. I agree with the above. Send a new box > or at the very least a new disk with 8.2 on it. Then, just mount the old > 4.x disk and copy over the user data. > > ---Mike > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I have done such upgrades in the past but they are very high risk, so the chances are you will incur some prolonged downtime, and probably have to go to site anyway. It would be much easier to build a new system disk, install whatever ports you need and copy across anything else from the live system, then install the new disk to the box (or an entire new box) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 11:14:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71941065672 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Received: from outbound.ifdnrg.com (outbound.ifdnrg.com [193.200.98.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED958FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.85] (93-97-172-73.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.172.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by outbound.ifdnrg.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p07BEGWv021358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:14:17 GMT (envelope-from paul@ifdnrg.com) Message-ID: <4D26F58D.3040208@ifdnrg.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:14:21 +0000 From: Paul Macdonald User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Upgrade path from STABLE to RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:14:19 -0000 Hi, I have a box which i installed 7.0 stable on and i want to do a binary update to 8.1 REL, is this possible via the freebsd-update utility? freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. No mirrors remaining, giving up. (Its only on stable that it fails, works fine). thanks Paul. -- ------------------------- Paul Macdonald IFDNRG Ltd Web and video hosting ------------------------- t: 0131 5548070 m: 07534206249 e: paul@ifdnrg.com w: http://www.ifdnrg.com ------------------------- IFDNRG 40 Maritime Street Edinburgh EH6 6SA ------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 11:39:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFEA1065673 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA30F8FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p07Bd3NV000647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:39:04 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p07Bd3NV000647 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294400344; bh=YxMtrh5Ql9cdMO5QVZOZL9tepM6w8DlHwwppw46uU1g=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D26FB50.5010506@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2007=20Jan=202011=2011:38:56=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Paul=20Macdonald=20|CC:=20freebsd-questi ons@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Upgrade=20path=20from=20STABLE=20 to=20RELEASE|References:=20<4D26F58D.3040208@ifdnrg.com>|In-Reply- To:=20<4D26F58D.3040208@ifdnrg.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|Op enPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20mical g=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B= 0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig606072100A74E79766919F7A"; b=IFCCNqglXERPAQ4o9bpuYLHhUQqSCgbZhzo11OXdBQSzPEEpug55nMHgdt7aKy0x0 g/tl0mkgT7Dv6HYaLXsjhk8CZov0C9fR3myBOG31cE5kAA+q5BjWlGnjzWBSklddZO Qa9bII4rySd0x8KRvkWcJWGbDTbF8DeuuSJhoACM= Message-ID: <4D26FB50.5010506@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:38:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Macdonald References: <4D26F58D.3040208@ifdnrg.com> In-Reply-To: <4D26F58D.3040208@ifdnrg.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig606072100A74E79766919F7A" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade path from STABLE to RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:39:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig606072100A74E79766919F7A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/01/2011 11:14, Paul Macdonald wrote: > I have a box which i installed 7.0 stable on and i want to do a binary > update to 8.1 REL, is this possible via the freebsd-update utility? >=20 > freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 4 mirrors found. > Fetching public key from update5.FreeBSD.org... failed. > Fetching public key from update4.FreeBSD.org... failed. > Fetching public key from update2.FreeBSD.org... failed. > Fetching public key from update3.FreeBSD.org... failed. > No mirrors remaining, giving up. >=20 > (Its only on stable that it fails, works fine). No. freebsd-update only works with -RELEASE branches, as you have discovered for yourself. Your choices are to backup and reinstall using a release version, or to grab the latest -STABLE or -RELEASE sources and upgrade by compiling from source. Note that last option still won't allow you to use freebsd-update subsequently: you have to stick with the binaries from the install media for that to work. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig606072100A74E79766919F7A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0m+1cACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyVkACeNEVpS/XiwjEDg73BE+TTowo1 VlIAoJLiSMkQoti5QOigR42D8rYhpkhm =qn4G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig606072100A74E79766919F7A-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 12:03:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD2E10656AB for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (asmtp2.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E097B8FC2D for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from asmtp2.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p07C31Wi024304; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:03:01 GMT Received: from orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (80-45-152-196.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.45.152.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp2.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p07C309H024285; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:03:01 GMT Received: by orange.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D004633C1F; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:02:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 12:02:59 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: patrick Message-ID: <20110107120259.GA44135@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.2-PRERELEASE amd64 X-Organisation: 'shute.org.uk' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 12:03:04 -0000 On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote: > > I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a > binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running > 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a > remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, > and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the > install/upgrade process. An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5. I'm afraid as others have indicated, you'll have to visit the site or ship a preconfigured box to the site. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 13:06:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3171065672 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.halliday@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CEA8FC17 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so16857938fxm.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 05:06:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/0hIfw2RCrqBOWx6qA6ouU7QiawNFvuANnrsXmo5Q2U=; b=fxFXCn2nsF8Bp2WQ4sN+XDdVTGUxUDz/83TRDma8DoaPe7TpHvjQoENUxwf7TutUAb 6RSOXxC9yfAwSwCEnOl/BxtTkHRqUtIlZNkVFHT5uffDibpl829GpjLqo6tE3xvrBw1K R9PPaaKPRWB1qDOA5XS8j5VrhPKLjx4tCf8sA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qBxdKzb5mPeCLjJA1h/QoAKSjyOSC6pZ/EB33K0VfOAqEwRUNqrzIVH5oISDpMYqRH JsGfU+9gSEa+wmc4NolnSk4Lov/21YfisG7BISQ3fLnKlQ0r9dvcd73gmXkBD5jM2pTq KbP18kYVMolUFK+FEZzMrGlnLvxK9JDhgcBWw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.96.138 with SMTP id h10mr1871002fan.120.1294404209285; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.144.208 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 04:43:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:43:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: Paul Halliday To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Apache with LDAP from ports failing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:06:33 -0000 I am trying to build apache22 on a fresh 8.1 box from ports. It is dying right about here: mod_authnz_ldap.c:41:2: error: #error mod_authnz_ldap requires APR-util to have LDAP support built in. To fix add --with-ldap to ./configure. Help! :) -- Paul Halliday http://www.pintumbler.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 13:24:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA41C1065695 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307918FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p07DOijT001856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:24:44 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p07DOijT001856 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294406684; bh=0Ye6PuQIub2Gz9J2/uI1r+ciD5sUZk6hsh3fhf6GCj4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D271414.4000902@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20F ri,=2007=20Jan=202011=2013:24:36=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Apache=20w ith=20LDAP=20from=20ports=20failing.|References:=20|In-Reply-To:=20< AANLkTik+xJtfEjZjJeSNo=3DZ53ZHKCFaZ5B7xbrqCK9XY@mail.gmail.com>|X- Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1|OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=2 0multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"ap plication/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigDF 098BFD7E1928DED7E5B8E4"; b=ywh4hb+zU6verMIcLP0pCHz0T8Kl6MzHe1VXVlCqo6toFl/njOoOzwGbErqZcaIay /IZX4ZEbXYa+E9JkKYixDK6l6+HhdzJL+nJtjmhpCOj81bm5i1jkQoeCz38No+K5jP Kmp1vHVJfKQeiC7tO4//x4P14ov+92yQm+H9z/lc= Message-ID: <4D271414.4000902@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:24:36 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDF098BFD7E1928DED7E5B8E4" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Apache with LDAP from ports failing. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:24:51 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDF098BFD7E1928DED7E5B8E4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/01/2011 12:43, Paul Halliday wrote: > I am trying to build apache22 on a fresh 8.1 box from ports. It is > dying right about here: >=20 > mod_authnz_ldap.c:41:2: error: #error mod_authnz_ldap requires > APR-util to have LDAP support built in. To fix add --with-ldap to > ./configure. Add LDAP support to the OPTIONS for devel/apr1 by running 'make config' Rebuild and reinstall devel/apr1 Rebuild and reinstall www/apache22 In general, you need to match up the capabilities from devel/apr1 with the set of modules you want to enable for www/apace22. So if you want apache itself[*] to interface with LDAP, MySQL, PostgreSQL or SQLite or you want to use ndbm format hash files etc. then you need to turn on the corresponding capability in devel/apr1. Ditto for www/apache20 and devel/apr0 and (presumably) for the upcoming www/apache24 and devel/apr2. Cheers, Matthew [*] but not by an embedded language like mod_php or mod_perl --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigDF098BFD7E1928DED7E5B8E4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0nFBwACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyO1ACdEAq+TOt5yqegQkPUl9flhhDs sfYAoIMWdtnlmtTYG9EOM/P6mIBkzECD =3uum -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDF098BFD7E1928DED7E5B8E4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 14:05:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD31C106564A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:05:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7A88FC1B for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c83-255-61-120.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.61.120]:65119 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbCwN-0001MZ-6z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:05:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 40733 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2011 15:05:14 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 7 Jan 2011 15:05:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 82122 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Jan 2011 15:05:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:05:14 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20110107140513.GA82088@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20110107120259.GA44135@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110107120259.GA44135@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.61.120 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1PbCwN-0001MZ-6z. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1PbCwN-0001MZ-6z 6ca298acdcaf955e4c2d8d5c668776f8 Cc: patrick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:05:24 -0000 On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote: > > > > I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a > > binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running > > 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a > > remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, > > and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the > > install/upgrade process. > > An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from > UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5. That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on it. Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1 with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 14:58:55 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC02B1065670 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A938FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p07Ewh6C007901; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:58:44 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:58:43 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Chris Brennan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20110108014312.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Bruce Cran , FreeBSD Questions , Adam Vande More Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:58:55 -0000 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 21:41:11 -0500, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/ZFSBootPartition has a good guide for > > installing the base manually (you can ignore the gpart and zfs > > commands if you want). I found I had to copy the base and kernel > > directories from the install ISO to a UFS-formatted USB stick first > > though since the LiveFS CD doesn't have the distributions. > > > > -- > > Bruce Cran > > > > Bruce, your a lifesaver! +1 for you and your wiki page. +1 for Warren's page > ( > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html#_the_old_standard_way_tt_fdisk_8_tt_and_tt_bsdlabel_8_tt) > and +5 for Ian and his incredible patience. Hodgepodging Warren's and > Bruce's pages together got me a working base. Laptop is now installed w/o > the assistance of a boot cd or the usb hard-drive I was using. That's great news Chris, congratulations for perseverance. It could be argued that it shouldn't be this hard, but I don't need any argument .. > I did have to grab a DVD of 8.1 and burn it to a DVDRW, just so I could get > access to /dist/8.1-*. That being said, I think I am going to look at > setting up that same external hd w/ a full 8.2-R root when it's ready, so I > have a full, local tree to utilize for weird installs like this (I don't > know why I never did that before) Excellent idea. Just for curiousity's sake, after all that what do you wind up with for: # fdisk -s ad4 # bsdlabel ad4s1 ?, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 15:12:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307571065670 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:12:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E985E8FC17 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p07F7t68090928; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:07:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p07F7tDJ090927; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:07:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:07:55 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Erik Trulsson Message-ID: <20110107150755.GA90911@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20110107120259.GA44135@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20110107140513.GA82088@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110107140513.GA82088@owl.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Frank Shute , patrick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:12:07 -0000 On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:05:14PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote: > > > > > > I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a > > > binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running > > > 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a > > > remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, > > > and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the > > > install/upgrade process. > > > > An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from > > UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5. > > That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD > releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on > it. Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1 > with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary. The thing to do is create the UFS2 new system and use it to read the stuff you need from the old UFS1 system/disk. Then just use the new disk. ////jerry > -- > > Erik Trulsson > ertr1013@student.uu.se > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 15:50:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2F91065694 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E928FC14 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [173.241.25.35] (port=50011 helo=[10.0.0.105]) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PbEaG-0001XH-Da; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:50:36 -0800 References: <20110107120259.GA44135@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20110107140513.GA82088@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20110107150755.GA90911@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20110107150755.GA90911@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <93844B59-B4B4-4DDB-BE2C-0181907D3BB9@vicor.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) From: Devin Teske Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:50:20 -0800 To: Jerry McAllister X-Scan-Signature: 89701e88e3553a4f588332e706f23fdd X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Cc: patrick , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Frank Shute Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:50:39 -0000 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:05:14PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: >=20 >> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: >>> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a >>>> binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running >>>> 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a >>>> remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, >>>> and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the >>>> install/upgrade process. >>>=20 >>> An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from >>> UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5. >>=20 >> That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD >> releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on >> it. Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1 >> with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary. >=20 > The thing to do is create the UFS2 new system and use it to read > the stuff you need from the old UFS1 system/disk. Then just use > the new disk. >=20 Maybe I'm just imagining things, but I somehow recall that some guru had pos= ted a technique for converting UFS1 to UFS2 by way of dump/restore while boo= ted from a live distro. Was I dreaming? -- Cheers, Devin > ////jerry >=20 >=20 >> --=20 >> >> Erik Trulsson >> ertr1013@student.uu.se >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 15:55:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501D5106566B for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:55:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sayedtdm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDF58FC16 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:55:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so17008806fxm.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:55:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=SiAj+siDDM+m+AOS3Wy/p4BRtdzfoiG/96Jfo0l58Bw=; b=KPT+5+5NhcYuOqhirSCFxzcUAiWttQd6Dxj92r83tFQ3YwhMN3INl7Jp6jtxqdL8hI m9dZU+t+/bMNazrYPVQGrkmPbPgzMLxVuJdspmyrAfqlzk1mMOGry2aRrfcY5WgASU9+ iwYKTR+oCpWtOU5UeMWH/7ASFHVfGi4Lp/XNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=Pmt9iF/pZLEbqK4f4gq26dSPTqaeAGAhc4urIUBjUgaIFeII+HBmME5j2A8BZH5O2E Y9MXsl0P6oAvAyOOXdGFkasAXdePfAg0ufLhZ+QBy/ADzyjEG+blxe+J6c50XDwM4S3E FwI/qrURVzSc/P5SmX/75GxNUDX4pevnGDSYQ= Received: by 10.223.101.140 with SMTP id c12mr917958fao.16.1294415710498; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:55:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from MyBackypPC ([188.248.170.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n15sm6178798fam.36.2011.01.07.07.54.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:55:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Sayed Nimer" To: "'Ross Cameron'" References: <20110106195131.7D3D410656B5@hub.freebsd.org> <04ca01cbae35$ace5c470$06b14d50$@com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:53:55 +0300 Message-ID: <04f801cbae83$1c3427c0$549c7740$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcuuPHCQ/pFUjzfjRHuFh3slVqNwaQARZ3ag Content-Language: ar-sa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:55:12 -0000 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Sayed Nimer wrote: Hello, I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so = I can add/edit zone. I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my = requirements. I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was working fine. When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many = errors can't find mysqlserver. Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or = the PowerDNS problem. Thanks and have a nice day. Have you tried making sure that the MySQL daemon is started /BEFORE/ = PowerDNS and Apache is started? =20 Hello, Thank you for your reply. I thought you put your hand in my exact = problem. When I start PowerDNS from command line using "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/pdns = onestart" its running smooth.=20 To make auto startup I just put this line pdns_enable=3D"YES" to the end = of /etc/rc.conf. Can you please highlight to me how and where to add the instruction for = auto startup of PowerDNS to be sure it's starting after Mysql. Thank, and have a nice day. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 15:57:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02125106566C for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51F58FC17 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p07FrCU9091112; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:53:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p07FrCFB091111; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:53:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:53:12 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Devin Teske Message-ID: <20110107155311.GA91089@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20110107120259.GA44135@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20110107140513.GA82088@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20110107150755.GA90911@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <93844B59-B4B4-4DDB-BE2C-0181907D3BB9@vicor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <93844B59-B4B4-4DDB-BE2C-0181907D3BB9@vicor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Frank Shute , patrick , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Upgrading from FreeBSD 4.10 to 8.1? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:57:24 -0000 On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 07:50:20AM -0800, Devin Teske wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:05:14PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:02:59PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > >>> On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 07:45:28AM -0800, patrick wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I know this is a bit crazy, but is there any opinion as to whether a > >>>> binary upgrade using an 8.1 CD would work to upgrade a system running > >>>> 4.10? Normally I would want to do a fresh install, but it's at a > >>>> remote client site where it's not going to be easy to do it that way, > >>>> and I'm going to need to guide someone less experienced through the > >>>> install/upgrade process. > >>> > >>> An upgrade using a CD wouldn't work as the filesystem changed from > >>> UFS1 to UFS2 betweeen 4 and 5. > >> > >> That by itself should not be a showstopper, since newer FreeBSD > >> releases (incl. 8.1) still support UFS1 and can run perfectly fine on > >> it. Although it is generally a good idea to use UFS2 rather than UFS1 > >> with FreeBSD 5+ it is certainly not necessary. > > > > The thing to do is create the UFS2 new system and use it to read > > the stuff you need from the old UFS1 system/disk. Then just use > > the new disk. > > > > Maybe I'm just imagining things, but I somehow recall that some guru had > posted a technique for converting UFS1 to UFS2 by way of dump/restore > while booted from a live distro. Was I dreaming? Well, that should be easy. You just have a new disk, slice, partition and newfs it with a new UFS2 system. Then dump the old partitions and restore them on the new partitions. It is still a matter of creating a new system with new space. You could do it to a spare machine and then once it is all built, do the same back to the old machine and it would all be up-to-date. The new one would be nice and clean then too. ////jerry > -- > Cheers, > Devin > > > > ////jerry > > > > > >> -- > >> > >> Erik Trulsson > >> ertr1013@student.uu.se > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 16:27:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C859106564A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@Antero.com) Received: from tiny.smallweb.com (tiny.smallweb.com [216.85.125.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B8E8FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sata200.Antero.com ([216.85.125.18]) by tiny.smallweb.com (8.14.3/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p07Fjlig085097 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:45:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from steve@Antero.com) Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.2.20110107084225.179e6c80@nano.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.0.14 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:45:47 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Steve Suhre Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: Subject: ImageMagick-6.6.6-10 Port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:27:48 -0000 I wasn't sure who to send this to.... I just grabbed the ImageMagick-6.6.6-10 port from the FreeBSD.com ports collection and there's a problem with the source code. When I run 'make' it croaks looking for "ImageMagick-6.6.6-10.tar.gz" in the distinfo file, but the distinfo file references "ImageMagick-6.6.6-10.tar.xz". I'll find it somewhere else, but I thought you'd want to know... -- Steve Suhre Antero web technologies steve@Antero.com 719.634.8161 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 16:30:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FF61065670 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frlinux@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946C38FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so17714805wyf.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:30:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=G7FtIvqHedg4cspfs2CrexbtIkrow1YNPrLaVvlmQzw=; b=qRhqEnxZJ/RP/8sGKqxcOzk5W+Hg8nAMQsiIY+h4HkijH8Ttcs6Pplk01qY0DOau1m GzHTPM+8ClhZK4qXdef6SEFs7k87gJ18PNHDJa2FUNfjBrAQ96YS05PHwKyTh2yiIaeN sJk+aimWXtxcnqqc4c7Ir4Hkk/uXA7mI9ajX0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Uv2+YHFEliOv1aAV2k5SP5nJ5r+LBZcEBB0HL4d7QTiS6pumoj6PKRXKN3gwT36k9p i0GlDoBNIxrJN22UCoKxY1iPSzemcjzaEmr7Yq+pSjnJXwvTU6sUVTROzFMF7dc6UV0g QM2NemX+99G+f4x0018A8I0f27HhMgckMMCFY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.180.134 with SMTP id bu6mr15584626wbb.183.1294414670631; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.203.133 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:37:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:37:50 +0000 Message-ID: From: FRLinux To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: problem booting a new server on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:30:37 -0000 Hello, We have purchased a brand new server running an Intel Motherboard which boots fine on Linux but not on FreeBSD, I have tried FreeBSD 8.1 and 8.2-RC1 without success. The motherboard is a S5500HCV (Version: E40912-455). It has 2 SATA drives connected in compatible mode in the BIOS (also tried AHCI without success). It also hosts a 3ware RAID controller (9750 series, 16 ports). When booting, i get to the screen where I can select which boot process i want for FreeBSD (normal, without ACPI, debug, single, etc...). Regardless of the option I select, it starts flickering the rotating cursor (\|/-) then freezes completely with no information. I have disabled a few options in the BIOS including advanced ACPI states for the CPU (Intel Xeon E5620), disabled HT and speedstep without much success. Any hint welcome, this server with be an NFS box and I don't fancy having Linux running on it. I am including the linux lspci to show what's on the box: [root@localhost ~]# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5500 I/O Hub to ESI Port (rev 22) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 22) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 22) 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev 22) 00:09.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 9 (rev 22) 00:10.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Physical and Link Layer Registers Port 0 (rev 22) 00:10.1 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Routing and Protocol Layer Registers Port 0 (rev 22) 00:11.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500 Physical and Link Layer Registers Port 1 (rev 22) 00:11.1 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500 Routing & Protocol Layer Register Port 1 (rev 22) 00:13.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub I/OxAPIC Interrupt Controller (rev 22) 00:14.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub System Management Registers (rev 22) 00:14.1 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub GPIO and Scratch Pad Registers (rev 22) 00:14.2 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Control Status and RAS Registers (rev 22) 00:14.3 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Throttle Registers (rev 22) 00:15.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Trusted Execution Technology Registers (rev 22) 00:16.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:16.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:16.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:16.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:16.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:16.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:16.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:16.7 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 Chipset QuickData Technology Device (rev 22) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 1 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 5 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 90) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface Controller 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 4 port SATA IDE Controller #1 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SMBus Controller 00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller #2 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82575EB Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02) 01:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82575EB Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02) 03:00.0 RAID bus controller: 3ware Inc 9750 SAS2/SATA-II RAID PCIe (rev 05) 06:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 02) fe:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02) fe:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02) fe:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Link 0 (rev 02) fe:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Physical 0 (rev 02) fe:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Mirror Port Link 0 (rev 02) fe:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Mirror Port Link 1 (rev 02) fe:02.4 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Link 1 (rev 02) fe:02.5 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Physical 1 (rev 02) fe:03.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Registers (rev 02) fe:03.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder (rev 02) fe:03.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller RAS Registers (rev 02) fe:03.4 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Test Registers (rev 02) fe:04.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Control (rev 02) fe:04.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Address (rev 02) fe:04.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Rank (rev 02) fe:04.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Thermal Control (rev 02) fe:05.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Control (rev 02) fe:05.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Address (rev 02) fe:05.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Rank (rev 02) fe:05.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Thermal Control (rev 02) fe:06.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Control (rev 02) fe:06.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Address (rev 02) fe:06.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Rank (rev 02) fe:06.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Thermal Control (rev 02) ff:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QuickPath Architecture Generic Non-core Registers (rev 02) ff:00.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QuickPath Architecture System Address Decoder (rev 02) ff:02.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Link 0 (rev 02) ff:02.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Physical 0 (rev 02) ff:02.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Mirror Port Link 0 (rev 02) ff:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Mirror Port Link 1 (rev 02) ff:02.4 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Link 1 (rev 02) ff:02.5 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series QPI Physical 1 (rev 02) ff:03.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Registers (rev 02) ff:03.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Target Address Decoder (rev 02) ff:03.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller RAS Registers (rev 02) ff:03.4 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Test Registers (rev 02) ff:04.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Control (rev 02) ff:04.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Address (rev 02) ff:04.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Rank (rev 02) ff:04.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 0 Thermal Control (rev 02) ff:05.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Control (rev 02) ff:05.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Address (rev 02) ff:05.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Rank (rev 02) ff:05.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 1 Thermal Control (rev 02) ff:06.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Control (rev 02) ff:06.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Address (rev 02) ff:06.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Rank (rev 02) ff:06.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Thermal Control (rev 02) Cheers, Steph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 16:47:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5551065672 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f182.google.com (mail-qy0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65DBE8FC20 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36so17141367qyk.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:47:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=tDnPEveq7qzncvLfxdCloqkkBOFhwclL9PAIYq1V3+s=; b=S7yF5CFOlLsnbJBfj7ENk5I6KJbaMUyLRDPGp/DlSSJDxAyKcopNwSR8h8OcJqMXRL tR6yztdAkMiE0nOSB6hWSGCWySzc6nID8FIf/vtFlNZRQK2I+Fzf0Ht2NmJX5RXX2yCI lJbUykN+jEAK8AcE6MLotNHRI41ZEY2j8j6N8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=wYeasqUgdGHC+fx8rx3ZbWxGODjx1xddvpecCZOfgx6kXU9kkn/hw2z6oHh1rMTv8U LAjMmuHH2cniXBafXsn4U/M1rf0RhJhzsJpYXBn8jIKgSpRzqeDRVWvtYqprV7ZERUwD rlH9HhUo8dfCWl9VHBXULRnxFyNQqilC8SQ5o= Received: by 10.229.211.206 with SMTP id gp14mr2908768qcb.289.1294418832826; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:47:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.88.9 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:46:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20110107084225.179e6c80@nano.net> References: <6.2.0.14.2.20110107084225.179e6c80@nano.net> From: Odhiambo Washington Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:46:42 +0300 Message-ID: To: Steve Suhre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick-6.6.6-10 Port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:47:14 -0000 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Steve Suhre wrote: > > > > > I wasn't sure who to send this to.... I just grabbed the > ImageMagick-6.6.6-10 port from the FreeBSD.com ports collection and there's > a problem with the source code. When I run 'make' it croaks looking for > "ImageMagick-6.6.6-10.tar.gz" in the distinfo file, but the distinfo file > references "ImageMagick-6.6.6-10.tar.xz". > > > > I'll find it somewhere else, but I thought you'd want to know... > > You grabbed the unofficial port, so not entirely unexpected. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Damn!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 16:56:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A2E1065673 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kraduk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A258FC17 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so8200132ewy.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:56:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dFAAoLh2oYDSB+IwwQEQAGMzcLpSzROQ3H1vAah2lUE=; b=CvBd4/iBO93w6SxodKsn85MbUcfO7GRG1/xzvqJi+hbmgvV/Yc8U5xH/vKmXdkcCp0 5b6BABxoFlzxrSzdy9+tnepl5Ki7MMwYqh7iSrqz7GJ1EmWQ1Li3J5cW40s7WCJ1RRd4 8aWz+gYX7PCWwwXEOs9rgHiDdflFzt4TUAjWA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WtVA0ZUsSFliVk9J3aqZvqMJeqG2gLvSuH1k1CQxRkekfvDtdnY7S3EINUQhaPRww3 XO7hgYzRT1NcCU1a/SdzGKX2ZsN8VQTvGixwbm8ct9ydg0zUmpaVaDp4rvPX8zpOZH85 uqVs+kRTqofgmfiiTOwOie2lwkVWOoCQGOVmg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.51.135 with SMTP id b7mr1678378wec.29.1294419389997; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.151.72 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 08:56:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <04f801cbae83$1c3427c0$549c7740$@com> References: <20110106195131.7D3D410656B5@hub.freebsd.org> <04ca01cbae35$ace5c470$06b14d50$@com> <04f801cbae83$1c3427c0$549c7740$@com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:56:29 +0000 Message-ID: From: krad To: Sayed Nimer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ross Cameron , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:56:32 -0000 On 7 January 2011 15:53, Sayed Nimer wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Sayed Nimer wrote: > > Hello, > I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so I > can add/edit zone. > I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my requirements. > I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was > working fine. > When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many errors > can't find mysqlserver. > Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or the > PowerDNS problem. > Thanks and have a nice day. > > > Have you tried making sure that the MySQL daemon is started /BEFORE/ > PowerDNS and Apache is started? > > > > Hello, > > Thank you for your reply. I thought you put your hand in my exact problem. > > When I start PowerDNS from command line using "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/pdns > onestart" its running smooth. > > To make auto startup I just put this line pdns_enable="YES" to the end of > /etc/rc.conf. > > Can you please highlight to me how and where to add the instruction for > auto startup of PowerDNS to be sure it's starting after Mysql. > > Thank, and have a nice day. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > look at the require and provide lines of the rc scripts From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 17:11:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB065106564A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sayedtdm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632198FC15 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so17085701fxm.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:11:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=w9Fh1HwXwKYSRrXscqMtVSSi76vitlSbxFyh0pmxGws=; b=FyTF402nra12+3u7Q3RlgysNyU8l8pyFEIHShfduQnSAt993f8By/jYb9k006xuam9 EcsD+IBrSdndmm3y4LNBvwM4n4af/5wEft394A/3a7NN1/kvAwGZzoJwdW4AXis6Sl2a 5S700GCB4WaqDrhob8IDQtQvqVgID2Mevtde8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=tTlH1Hp7Is+2Cb/blXh/xN6Jc+9SB19z+fXf57hPs4/6HgBig7pP+EMRbabEQ8m8ZB WJos6Xeh/FL1pAsq4sc+ODPUn8oNB3Ji0U7wWEXHvjCcpS0aDQT0akwlmSBm8AUP1TFH uErQGKdJNfTQP/PTUDsLgb0xhmjeLq0fx4O9k= Received: by 10.223.95.199 with SMTP id e7mr1708366fan.39.1294420281987; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from MyBackypPC ([188.248.170.214]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm6212864fam.11.2011.01.07.09.11.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:11:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Sayed Nimer" To: "'krad'" References: <20110106195131.7D3D410656B5@hub.freebsd.org> <04ca01cbae35$ace5c470$06b14d50$@com> <04f801cbae83$1c3427c0$549c7740$@com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:10:09 +0300 Message-ID: <050401cbae8d$bf8dbcb0$3ea93610$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Acuui9eJ5lkRv87LRXKdq16by9A9pQAAagnA Content-Language: ar-sa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: 'Ross Cameron' , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:11:23 -0000 Hello, I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so I can add/edit zone. I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my requirements. I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was working fine. When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many errors can't find mysqlserver. Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or the PowerDNS problem. Thanks and have a nice day. Have you tried making sure that the MySQL daemon is started /BEFORE/ PowerDNS and Apache is started? Hello, Thank you for your reply. I thought you put your hand in my exact problem. When I start PowerDNS from command line using "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/pdns onestart" its running smooth. To make auto startup I just put this line pdns_enable="YES" to the end of /etc/rc.conf. Can you please highlight to me how and where to add the instruction for auto startup of PowerDNS to be sure it's starting after Mysql. Thank, and have a nice day. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" look at the require and provide lines of the rc scripts hello, this snap of my rc.conf sshd_enable="YES" ntpdate_enable="YES" apache22_enable="YES" named_enable="NO" mysql_enable="YES" mysql_dbdir="/usr/local/etc/mysql" sendmail_enable="NO" sendmail_submit_enable="NO" sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" pdns_enable="YES" Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 17:26:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71DA1065679 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1938FC22 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 17:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC.intranet.com.mx (189.203.6.195) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:30:00 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:26:29 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <050401cbae8d$bf8dbcb0$3ea93610$@com> References: <20110106195131.7D3D410656B5@hub.freebsd.org> <04ca01cbae35$ace5c470$06b14d50$@com> <04f801cbae83$1c3427c0$549c7740$@com> <050401cbae8d$bf8dbcb0$3ea93610$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3377266200-1626769046@intranet.com.mx> Subject: RE: Manage Bind9 through the web, PowerDNS crash my system at startup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:26:33 -0000 Hello. I am sorry if my comment sounds stupid... but It won't be WEBMIN an alternative for managing simple BIND operations? Jorge Biquez At 11:10 a.m. 07/01/2011, Sayed Nimer wrote: >Hello, >I was looking for a solution to manage Bind9 DNS server through a web so I >can add/edit zone. >I thought PowerDNS/PowerAdmin would be a good solution for my requirements. >I successfully installed both PowerDNS/PowerAdmin and tested them was >working fine. >When I restart my box I found PowerDNS crash my system giving many errors >can't find mysqlserver. >Any suggestions for the requirement to manage Bind9 through the web, or the >PowerDNS problem. >Thanks and have a nice day. > > >Have you tried making sure that the MySQL daemon is started /BEFORE/ >PowerDNS and Apache is started? > > > >Hello, > >Thank you for your reply. I thought you put your hand in my exact problem. > >When I start PowerDNS from command line using "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/pdns >onestart" its running smooth. > >To make auto startup I just put this line pdns_enable="YES" to the end of >/etc/rc.conf. > >Can you please highlight to me how and where to add the instruction for auto >startup of PowerDNS to be sure it's starting after Mysql. > >Thank, and have a nice day. > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >look at the require and provide lines of the rc scripts > > > > > >hello, > > > >this snap of my rc.conf > > > >sshd_enable="YES" > >ntpdate_enable="YES" > >apache22_enable="YES" > > > >named_enable="NO" > >mysql_enable="YES" > >mysql_dbdir="/usr/local/etc/mysql" > > > >sendmail_enable="NO" > >sendmail_submit_enable="NO" > >sendmail_outbound_enable="NO" > >sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" > > > >pdns_enable="YES" > > > >Thanks > > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 18:33:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D56106564A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ey0-f182.google.com (mail-ey0-f182.google.com [209.85.215.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EE28FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:33:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyf6 with SMTP id 6so7984555eyf.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.109.9 with SMTP id h9mr1633079ebp.38.1294425221246; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:33:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:33:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110108014312.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20110108014312.N49334@sola.nimnet.asn.au> From: Chris Brennan Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: To: Ian Smith Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Bruce Cran , Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: a new hard-drive in a 2y/o laptop [solved] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:33:43 -0000 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ian Smith wrote: > > fdisk -s ad4 > bsdlabel ad4s1 [root@blackdragon /usr/src]# fdisk -s ad4; bsdlabel ad4s1 /dev/ad4: 1453521 cyl 16 hd 63 sec Part Start Size Type Flags 1: 63 1465149105 0xa5 0x80 # /dev/ad4s1: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 2097152 16 4.2BSD 0 0 0 b: 16777216 2097168 swap c: 1465149105 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 2097152 18874384 4.2BSD 0 0 0 e: 20971520 20971536 4.2BSD 0 0 0 f: 1423206049 41943056 4.2BSD 0 0 0 [root@blackdragon /usr/src]# From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 18:33:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B291065694 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f72.google.com (mail-gw0-f72.google.com [74.125.83.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F438FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21so7316013gwj.7 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:33:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.167.20 with SMTP id u20mr5324216yao.22.1294425236396; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:33:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20cf30564501675f1c049945dc9c@google.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:33:56 +0000 From: vrwmiller@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:36:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Ascertaining NIC Driver Version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:33:57 -0000 HI All, Is there a command line utility, a la ethtool or the like, that can be used to query the NIC driver version? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 18:45:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEAC106564A for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:45:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout022.mac.com (asmtpout022.mac.com [17.148.16.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846D28FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:45:06 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [17.151.99.224] by asmtp022.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LEO003731F5HV40@asmtp022.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:45:06 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-07_09:2011-01-07, 2011-01-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101070065 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20cf30564501675f1c049945dc9c@google.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:45:05 -0800 Message-id: References: <20cf30564501675f1c049945dc9c@google.com> To: vrwmiller@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ascertaining NIC Driver Version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:45:06 -0000 On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, vrwmiller@gmail.com wrote: > Is there a command line utility, a la ethtool or the like, that can be used to query the NIC driver version? "uname -a" is probably the most general answer, as most FreeBSD NIC drivers don't have individualized version #s, aside from the OS version itself. The sysctl tree under dev for a particular device, ie, "sysctl dev.bce", "sysctl dev.em", etc will return more information which might include a vendor-specific driver version #... Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 19:07:33 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF131065670 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vrwmiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f72.google.com (mail-qw0-f72.google.com [209.85.216.72]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFA58FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwf7 with SMTP id 7so10559388qwf.7 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:07:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.192.205 with SMTP id dr13mr8358275vcb.17.1294427252513; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:07:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <90e6ba53a96292df1904994654af@google.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:32 +0000 From: vrwmiller@gmail.com To: Chuck Swiger , vrwmiller@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Ascertaining NIC Driver Version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:07:33 -0000 Thanks, Chuck! I Googled for an answer for a while and didn't find much. I did find that the particular driver I was interested did have a version number in the source, but the question actually came from a user who doesn't have source trees on their hosts. On Jan 7, 2011 1:45pm, Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:33 AM, vrwmiller@gmail.com wrote: > > Is there a command line utility, a la ethtool or the like, that can be > used to query the NIC driver version? > "uname -a" is probably the most general answer, as most FreeBSD NIC > drivers don't have individualized version #s, aside from the OS version > itself. > The sysctl tree under dev for a particular device, ie, "sysctl > dev.bce", "sysctl dev.em", etc will return more information which might > include a vendor-specific driver version #... > Regards, > -- > -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 19:12:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB5B1065694 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BD18FC16 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.36]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2011 14:12:42 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AVP54493; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:12:42 -0500 Received: from 209-6-91-204.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.91.204]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Jan 2011 14:12:41 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19751.26017.786985.199702@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:12:33 -0500 To: Chuck Swiger In-Reply-To: References: <20cf30564501675f1c049945dc9c@google.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr16.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: vrwmiller@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ascertaining NIC Driver Version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:12:43 -0000 Chuck Swiger writes: > > Is there a command line utility, a la ethtool or the like, that > > can be used to query the NIC driver version? > > "uname -a" is probably the most general answer, as most FreeBSD > NIC drivers don't have individualized version #s, aside from the > OS version itself. That is not my understanding. To the OP: FreeBSD NIC drivers can and do have version numbers: huff@>> grep \$FreeBSD /sys/dev/e1000/if_em.c /*$FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/e1000/if_em.c,v 1.64 2010/12/04 06:38:21 jfv Exp $*/ The system in question: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Oct 23 08:15:53 EDT 2010 amd64 Obviously, the driver and OS version have nothing to do with each other. And the FreeBSD driver version will probably have nothing to do with any other driver version, especially one provided by the manufacturer. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 19:24:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E673106566B for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:24:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout022.mac.com (asmtpout022.mac.com [17.148.16.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 344FA8FC12 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:24:04 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from [17.151.99.224] by asmtp022.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-20.01 64bit (built Nov 21 2010)) with ESMTPSA id <0LEO005ZX377O500@asmtp022.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:23:32 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.2.15,1.0.148,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-01-07_09:2011-01-07, 2011-01-07, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=6.0.2-1010190000 definitions=main-1101070067 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <19751.26017.786985.199702@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:23:31 -0800 Message-id: References: <20cf30564501675f1c049945dc9c@google.com> <19751.26017.786985.199702@jerusalem.litteratus.org> To: Robert Huff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: vrwmiller@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ascertaining NIC Driver Version X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:24:04 -0000 On Jan 7, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Robert Huff wrote: >> "uname -a" is probably the most general answer, as most FreeBSD >> NIC drivers don't have individualized version #s, aside from the >> OS version itself. > > That is not my understanding. > To the OP: FreeBSD NIC drivers can and do have version numbers: > > huff@>> grep \$FreeBSD /sys/dev/e1000/if_em.c > /*$FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/e1000/if_em.c,v 1.64 2010/12/04 06:38:21 jfv Exp $*/ Um, that's the CVS revision number for that particular file. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: m-susanto1@hotmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:04:30 -0000 Hai, Nama saya Maria Susanto 39yrs saya berasal dari Indonesia, dan menikah d= engan Mr Marc Joeseph. dan saya memiliki dua anak dari pernikahan kami d= an kami tinggal di Britania Raya (London), akan tetapi suatu musibah dat= ang kepada keluarga saya dan saya kehilangan suami saya tercinta yang sa= ngat saya sayangi dalam mengalami musibah kecelakaan yang sangat fatal y= ang mengakibatkan suami saya meninggal dunia dan meninggalkan saya dan j= uga ke 2 anak saya untuk selamanya. 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mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C59D1065670 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9BC8FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAEB1EAD4; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:15:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p07LFbgE002441; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:15:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:15:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?Q?=CE=A4=CE=AC=CF=83=CE=BA=CE=BF=CF=82_=CE=9A=CF=89=CE=BD?= =?UTF-8?Q?=CF=83=CF=84=CE=B1=CE=BD=CF=84=CE=AF=CE=BD=CE=BF=CF=82?= Message-Id: <20110107221537.bcf80b28.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <282950.90281.qm@web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <282950.90281.qm@web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:15:40 -0000 On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:57:02 +0000 (GMT), Τάσκος Κωνσταντίνος wrote: > Hello to all. I am a new user of FreeBSD-8.1 and I tried to > compile a new kernel, according to the instructions given by > the handbook. The command 'make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL' > failed with 'stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL error code 1'. It would be nice to see the full error message. Can you copy & paste it (e. g. last 20 lines of output)? The precise error message often gives some information about what went wrong. > I wanted to build my own kernel because i didn't have > /dev/fuse (for ntfs write) and I had problems with module > fuse.ko I don't see anything related to FUSE or NTFS in your kernel config which looks quite like GENERIC... -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 21:39:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F2D1065673 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexmiroslav@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BB38FC17 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:39:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so18006749wyf.13 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:39:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SvpnGwN+MUOHssoH6WGVWAO37zVgk4Q6Y+usQvAqJxk=; b=RsykpCiA8eq5TbiWbF+zOCzo1z6LCjD6IlNIoQQpQCN8T3q6Vc/FP+g6ioUhp5grAs DTAxSklXb9erIo078nciLFkZ7bdcgCuPBKJT4cMh/kbcj7VDNZsu40EB0+0ekLGzy1/g ogosE/kR6XScDfcp5OIFeflgdFZKP0mF0d+L0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=E1c5rI4d23MXkYQI3Qpqta7SojMiV5VpTTD7KovpC7BHNATwq7moU3BYP/pSje58a5 Le/vJQYNoxPUpVokEF6B19+zsNjHlIVBtlxuPgD7LvZK8adFwA2B9r4nCrdjfT4vhlyM sBJ1nb5MoHK7XpiCUugX+EL/Rlmhv5xCSHOGk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.68.148 with SMTP id v20mr123714wbi.20.1294434528717; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.157.6 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:08:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:08:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aleksandr Miroslav To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: which syslog??? (rsyslog? syslog-ng? or default?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:39:05 -0000 I have some boxes (about 40) that I was tasked with creating a centralized logging infrastructure for. I see in ports that we have several different versions of rsyslog, and syslog-ng. Is there any reason to use one or the other? Or should I just use the syslog that come with the base OS? thanks, Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 21:49:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D751065672 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: from dirj.bris.ac.uk (dirj.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BBB8FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41]) by dirj.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbKBX-00074y-7D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:49:23 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.187.241]) by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbKBX-0005kk-4S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:49:23 +0000 Received: from mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p07LnMCn029889 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:49:22 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) Received: (from mexas@localhost) by mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p07LnMEf029888 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:49:22 GMT (envelope-from mexas@bristol.ac.uk) X-Authentication-Warning: mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk: mexas set sender to mexas@bristol.ac.uk using -f Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:49:22 +0000 From: Anton Shterenlikht To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110107214922.GA29879@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: cbb0: PC Card activation failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:49:24 -0000 I'm trying to get a wireless pccard device to work on amd64 HP Compaq 6715s laptop under 9.0-current. This device is Cisco Aironet 350 and is supposed to be supported by an(4) driver. However, when I insert the card in the slot all I get is: CIS is too long -- truncating pccard0: Card has no functions! cbb0: PC Card card activation failed Please advise many thanks anton -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 21:55:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D231065675 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ggatten@waddell.com) Received: from mailhost0.waddell.com (mailhost0.waddell.com [12.154.38.61]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243378FC1E for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (emlpfilt2.waddell.com [10.1.10.30]) by mailhost0.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C15250995; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:54:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from emlpfilt2.waddell.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 859372F8002; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:54:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com (wadphtcas0.waddell.com [192.168.203.229]) by emlpfilt2.waddell.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F19C2F8001; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:54:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from WADPMBXV0.waddell.com ([169.254.1.151]) by WADPHTCAS0.waddell.com ([192.168.203.229]) with mapi; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:54:52 -0600 From: Gary Gatten To: 'Aleksandr Miroslav' , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:54:51 -0600 Thread-Topic: which syslog??? (rsyslog? syslog-ng? or default?) Thread-Index: Acuus14CyUdL7KMmSuauckAAIQoT5QAATK4w Message-ID: <14952_1294437292_4D278BAC_14952_171_1_D9B37353831173459FDAA836D3B43499A7AF90FE@WADPMBXV0.waddell.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Subject: RE: which syslog??? (rsyslog? syslog-ng? or default?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:55:03 -0000 After a bit of research I picked rsyslog. Actually, my syslog servers "had= " to be RHEL, so I have all my logs going to 2 servers; one runs rsyslog an= d the other the syslogd that shipped with RHEL. They have different retent= ion policies, one keeps about 30 days of logs online, the other about 90 da= ys. Rsyslog has some cool features that may come in handy for a centralized log= ging environment. I don't use many (any?) of them right now, but it's nice= to know they're there. Depending on your environment you may want to chec= k it out. It's really handy if you can replace your sending hosts syslogd = with rsyslogd - if the central log server fails it will buffer log entries= locally and then ship them when the server comes back up. Also supports t= cp based syslog and a couple other "lossless" protocols. I have mostly Ci$= co gear logging here so can't really replace their logging daemon! HTH G -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aleksandr Miroslav Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:09 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: which syslog??? (rsyslog? syslog-ng? or default?) I have some boxes (about 40) that I was tasked with creating a centralized logging infrastructure for. I see in ports that we have several different versions of rsyslog, and syslog-ng. Is there any reason to use one or the other? Or should I just use the syslog that come with the base OS? thanks, Alex _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 22:38:12 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BA61065670 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from dionisos.otenet.gr (dionisos.otenet.gr [83.235.67.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303F08FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 22:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.158] (ppp-94-69-83-234.home.otenet.gr [94.69.83.234]) by dionisos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p07Mc7LE011146; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:38:10 +0200 Message-ID: <4D2795D3.901@otenet.gr> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 00:38:11 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101226 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-7?Q?=D4=DC=F3=EA=EF=F2_=CA=F9=ED=F3=F4=E1=ED=F4=DF=ED=EF?= =?ISO-8859-7?Q?=F2?= References: <282950.90281.qm@web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <282950.90281.qm@web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:38:12 -0000 On 01/07/2011 10:57 PM, ÔÜóêïò Êùíóôáíôßíïò wrote: > Hello to all. I am a new user of FreeBSD-8.1 and I tried to compile a new kernel, according to the instructions given by the handbook. The command 'make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL' failed with 'stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL error code 1'. > I wanted to build my own kernel because i didn't have /dev/fuse (for ntfs write) and I had problems with module fuse.ko > I am sending you my config file named MYKERNEL. > Thanks in advance, > Kostas. > > Looking at your MYKERNEL configuration file, just from the commit message at the top: # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.536 2010/12/31 00:21:41 yongari Exp $ it looks like you started editing a conf file that comes from FreeBSD CURRENT (what will become FreeBSD 9.0 in the future). Obviously this will not work in 8.1-RELEASE. You'll need to start by editing the GENERIC conf file that comes with 8.1-RELEASE. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 7 23:39:57 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8733A1065744 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 23:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from swell.k@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f68.google.com (mail-vw0-f68.google.com [209.85.212.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE5D8FC18 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 23:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws13 with SMTP id 13so1783882vws.7 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:39:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=1XG4UwMCk5696Him3UL6o41ZZVDh0/ZbnDnCNJE1g1g=; b=uxK8/9qgN2GZ/RPSAclrLpJ3KssRTgj77K6OGOsPb4jdykc2Ywr7rhydoSYEuF5Nim xSaQlWdZJ3DIFXLGiqNUJ5P/Z6RjAzGFhzrYVf25/xyS+wSYcrZllCCuMvHzaOxGDTaJ SQxJmxSfqY4QP2FABgC8CPyRYsz9sLfdaDWAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=vzgr/VlLQ29jZ+Sv18D4paqRQmomj3ToZZOoNFkX6PxBmYMDb85jF4xCv7f4ywx2cb Ck/0zehBlVjAQERUy5vToqHcK2cvKoQGXJqOeRgJ66tTRNOi7GHXNbvIvpk9/2wIlSXg QnyeblrOG6a06SPG/hv0Q1vBNkoHT/tOu4g5I= Received: by 10.220.187.136 with SMTP id cw8mr326241vcb.9.1294439637320; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (tor.lilly.cc [92.241.190.168]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u4sm5862514vch.36.2011.01.07.14.33.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:56 -0800 (PST) From: Anonymous To: Yuri References: <4D245F73.1050401@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 01:33:31 +0300 In-Reply-To: <4D245F73.1050401@rawbw.com> (yuri@rawbw.com's message of "Wed, 05 Jan 2011 04:09:23 -0800") Message-ID: <86lj2wmjic.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why top(1) only shows time of the main thread? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:39:57 -0000 Yuri writes: > TIME column is supposed to show time of the process (according to its > man page). > But it seems like it only shows the time of its main thread. > > Why? Bug in documentation? Wasn't this fixed in r182966? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 04:40:39 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EFC10656B7 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 04:40:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (odyssey.prod.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5128FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 04:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (dev.csst.net [66.181.0.13]) by i2bnetworks.com (8.14.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id p084ebMu080662; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 20:40:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AfterLogic WebMail Pro PHP X-Originating-IP: 66.181.2.158 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <3c43c95.f3140a8c4eb071f6395d43d0fee61f43@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> From: "Troy Beisigl" To: "Mike Tancsa" Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 18:31:18 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-SpacelinkPC: LL odyssey.i2bnetworks.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 04:40:39 -0000 Well, it did lock up today. There is no way to do anything on the console. T= he entire machine is locked hard. The errors on the console show: twa0: ERROR: (0x05: 0x210B): Request timed out!: request =3D 0xc5633430 twa0: INFO: (0x16: 0x1108): Resetting controller...: >From there everything is locked hard. Not even the caps/numlock keys work on= the keyboard. I would normally suspect hardware, but I can take and wipe th= e drives and re-install CentOS5.4 and it will run without any issues. I woul= d prefer not to use Linux, but it is looking like we are going to have to if= we can't resolve the issues with these controllers and FreeBSD. Troy Beisigl >---- Original Message ---- >From: Mike Tancsa >To: "Troy Beisigl" >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Sent: Tue, Jan 4, 2011, 8:20 AM >Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system > >On 1/4/2011 11:12 AM, Troy Beisigl wrote: >> I will have to check on its next lockup. It happens about every week to >> week and a half. > >Are you able to force the issue to recreate the problem ? > >=09---Mike >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 05:37:37 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD3210656A8 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 05:37:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564128FC08 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 05:37:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:356c:daf:ee13:13d1] ([IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:356c:daf:ee13:13d1]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p085bZsP076019 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:37:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4D27F81C.8030607@sentex.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 00:37:32 -0500 From: Mike Tancsa User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Beisigl References: <3c43c95.f3140a8c4eb071f6395d43d0fee61f43@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> In-Reply-To: <3c43c95.f3140a8c4eb071f6395d43d0fee61f43@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:37:37 -0000 On 1/7/2011 9:31 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: > Well, it did lock up today. There is no way to do anything on the console. The entire machine is locked hard. The errors on the console show: > > twa0: ERROR: (0x05: 0x210B): Request timed out!: request = 0xc5633430 > twa0: INFO: (0x16: 0x1108): Resetting controller...: I saw this on an i7 box running RELENG_6, but moving to 7 made all quite stable. Are you using 6 by chance ? The box is an i7 920 ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 4 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 6 ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 07:37:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DA410656AD for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 07:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell0.rawbw.com (shell0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C508FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 07:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.yuri.org (stunnel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell0.rawbw.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p087a6B6033977; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 23:36:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Message-ID: <4D281444.2050407@rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:37:40 -0800 From: Yuri User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101211 Thunderbird/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anonymous References: <4D245F73.1050401@rawbw.com> <86lj2wmjic.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <86lj2wmjic.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why top(1) only shows time of the main thread? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 07:37:42 -0000 On 01/07/2011 14:33, Anonymous wrote: > Yuri writes: > > >> TIME column is supposed to show time of the process (according to its >> man page). >> But it seems like it only shows the time of its main thread. >> >> Why? Bug in documentation? >> > Wasn't this fixed in r182966? > You are right according to this revision log (in stable/8): " r182966 | sepotvin | 2008-09-12 10:54:50 -0700 (Fri, 12 Sep 2008) | 7 lines Display the sum of the runtime of all the threads in a process when it's multithreaded instead of picking the time of the first thread found. " But I have rebuilt my system 8.1-STABLE on Oct 11 2010 and my top only shows the main thread's CPU use. How can this be? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 12:00:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583FA10656CB for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from tower.berklix.org (tower.berklix.org [83.236.223.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAA48FC23 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from park.js.berklix.net (p5B22DAE0.dip.t-dialin.net [91.34.218.224]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p08C043h058870; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:00:05 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by park.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p08C0RCr042959; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:00:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p08C0HUg095077; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:00:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <201101081200.p08C0HUg095077@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Steve Suhre From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://www.berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:45:47 MST." <6.2.0.14.2.20110107084225.179e6c80@nano.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:00:17 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ImageMagick-6.6.6-10 Port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:00:47 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Steve Suhre > Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:45:47 -0700 > Message-id: <6.2.0.14.2.20110107084225.179e6c80@nano.net> Steve Suhre wrote: > > > > > I wasn't sure who to send this to.... I just grabbed the > ImageMagick-6.6.6-10 port from the FreeBSD.com ports collection and there's > a problem with the source code. When I run 'make' it croaks looking for > "ImageMagick-6.6.6-10.tar.gz" in the distinfo file, but the distinfo file > references "ImageMagick-6.6.6-10.tar.xz". > > > > I'll find it somewhere else, but I thought you'd want to know... Hi, Good of you to report a bug, but questions@ is not the correct address. See list remits: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions ports@freebsd.org would be a better list address http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo better than taht though, just whoever is marked as MAINTAINER in Makefile & best if you run send-pr & CC that MAINTAINER with a bug report or fix. man send-pr ; send=pr Thanks Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com Mail plain text; Not quoted-printable, or HTML or base 64. Avoid top posting, it cripples itemised cumulative responses. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 12:26:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA02510656DB for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw20.surf-town.net (mail13.surf-town.net [212.97.132.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA958FC08 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw20.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C9F4761D21; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:26:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw20.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E6E61D2F for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:26:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw20.surf-town.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mailgw20.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw20.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id D+FfIiMz563i for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:26:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-4d80e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.128.77]) by mailgw20.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE2161D21 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:26:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:26:22 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110107 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:26:31 -0000 Hello, I have several e-mail addresses, and to make it easier to read them all, I use fetchmail to get the messages from the servers and deliver them to one local account. And I have a POP3 server running so I can read that local account's mail from e.g. thunderbird or even from my cell phone. The POP3 server I use is mail/popd from the ports, but I'm not very happy with it. Among other things it occasionally messes up attached files, so I want to switch. Moreover, I'd like to use maildir instead of a single file mailbox, so I'd like to switch from sendmail to e.g. postfix. The problem is that my knowledge about e-mail configuration is somewhat limited. I've found several tutorials and HOWTOs on getting postfix and either a POP3 or an IMAP server up and running, but they were all aimed at quite advanced setups, meant for serving entire domains, and most of them involved having the users in a MySQL database. I've fiddled a bit with it, but I can't seem to get postfix to deliver the mail. So here's what I want to do. 1. Have fetchmail get the messages. 2. Have an MTA (is that the right name, I always confuse them) deliver them locally to a maildir. 3. Have either a POP3 or an IMAP server from which I can retrieve the messages to whichever client I choose. 1 isn't a problem unless I need to make some radical changes. How do I set up 2 in the easiest possible way? Can anyone point me to a tutorial or HOWTO that I've missed? Or perhaps give me some tips on how to do it? For 3, can anyone recomend a good server that's easy to get up and running and which, obviously, handles maildir? Preferably one that can do both POP3 and IMAP, in case my needs change later. A good tutorial or HOWTO, or maybe some pointers? If I've left something out or I need to clarify anything, please let me know. I'll do what I can to help you help me. :) Thanks in advance, Rolf Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 12:49:53 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E6510656A6 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:49:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpg@daemon.gnix.co.uk) Received: from daemon.gnix.co.uk (griffin.gnix.co.uk [80.229.5.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D3C8FC14 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from daemon.gnix.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daemon.gnix.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p08Ct8wt003800 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:55:08 GMT (envelope-from jpg@daemon.gnix.co.uk) Received: (from jpg@localhost) by daemon.gnix.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p08Ct8vd003799 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:55:08 GMT (envelope-from jpg) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:55:08 +0000 From: Jamie Paul Griffin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110108125508.GA3765@daemon.gnix.co.uk> References: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> X-PGP-Key: http://gnix.co.uk/jpg-pubkey.asc X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:49:53 -0000 My advice would be to set up postfix with Dovecot imap. Both are well documented and, I find, they work well together. Both are fairly straight forward to set-up as from your post I understand that it's mainly to manage your own email which would require a basic configuration with some added security features possibly. These servers are also designed with security in-mind which is always something you need to consider. jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 12:49:07 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A622710656B8 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:49:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abletony84@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6578F8FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so7581356gxk.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 04:49:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v3nqeztvCHznktjLEDJF2S1M3zO6Mh26XWtgK95+VGQ=; b=ZEME5BzfZ6WF8kBTlx3UJ+nmUFcw9ey1KUARsyvaIjBxzxtjFrL0RNy6+xOjX/1re3 azSS9TAWJbjvl09HQ/9h52fuAqSVtaKIawS+DE5GcEtxSpuBFUaWR/I2I9+nTq5UJ0kz bMHeZpPBh4Brl4yFr3yOLbYX2Ti8lYBGTcqw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LXwONrk6oPkoSAyjqUXbBeQPaiGHzBPMl373e7ADE+z6C8DT6KyzvZvV11lXjrAVnR RATJ85DI8gk/lIPQ48Y9OAqMj0vUIh6A09keIbBc+eCDp6Q3M/lYDr4mLh2a8xekcYkG hlnTz5+GHOmQVoFcGgV+XJ5A41usw4D7syux8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.12.15 with SMTP id 15mr23143004ybl.85.1294489102221; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 04:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.192.20 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 04:18:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:18:22 +0100 Message-ID: From: Tony Maserati To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:56:23 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:49:07 -0000 pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? That's a bit silly. In fact it's pretty dumb. Sorry you all had to hear this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 13:32:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE7510656C9 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:32:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38F98FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:32:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj21 with SMTP id 21so8605702gwj.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.113.10 with SMTP id l10mr4431902agc.121.1294493531814; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f10sm34893736anh.5.2011.01.08.05.32.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C8D69E5487D for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:32:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:32:07 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110108083207.2ffd2f77@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:32:13 -0000 On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:26:22 +0100 Rolf Nielsen articulated: > Moreover, I'd like to use maildir instead of a single file mailbox, > so I'd like to switch from sendmail to e.g. postfix. > > The problem is that my knowledge about e-mail configuration is > somewhat limited. I've found several tutorials and HOWTOs on getting > postfix and either a POP3 or an IMAP server up and running, but they > were all aimed at quite advanced setups, meant for serving entire > domains, and most of them involved having the users in a MySQL > database. I've fiddled a bit with it, but I can't seem to get postfix > to deliver the mail. I have set up several Postfix/Dovecot systems, a few which included Fetchmail. They are relatively easy to configure. The only problem I now have is with the latest v2.x of Dovecot. Despite what you may hear, it is not really and truly stable yet; although it is getting there. If this system is to be only for your own use, then that would not be a problem at all. Postfix should work "out of the box". Only a few modifications need to be added to its basic config file for it to be up and running on your system. SASL and AUTH SMTP are easily setup if required. For starters, I would highly recommend that you register on the Postfix mail forum. You can get all of the help you need to get started there. You can also contact me OL if you would like further assistance. -- Jerry ✌ FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ The great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. Martin Atkins From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 15:02:02 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A208110656CB for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:02:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3fd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 057DE8FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p08F1vA7058893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:01:57 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk p08F1vA7058893 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1294498918; bh=Nqd6ovwajYBb4sfRKRETFopKSGhZw6NUwgWkT/5C8N4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<4D287C5D.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S at,=2008=20Jan=202011=2015:01:49=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|User-Agent:=20Mozilla/5.0=20(M acintosh=3B=20U=3B=20Intel=20Mac=20OS=20X=2010.6=3B=20en-US=3B=20r v:1.9.2.13)=20Gecko/20101207=20Thunderbird/3.1.7|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20Rolf=20Nielsen=20|CC:=20Fre eBSD=20Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:= 20[Probably=20a=20bit=20OT]=20A=20question=20about=20mail=20system s|References:=20<4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com>|In-Reply-To:= 20<4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=201.1.1 |OpenPGP:=20id=3D60AE908C|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20mi calg=3Dpgp-sha1=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"= 3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig1DAADB19CA75552E1F9054A3"; b=Ey4OSXvscZCgVz6nrUFDv6rvf+KFC97ikPtCgYYS6LcxYg2jmSVLrtkvv1zfTOHVi sKbjM6bDgCvlw+cPiqzUJU+1gbrsVNWJRi67p6t2oJV7E7QtxytdRHYn9ko/5AIEjs veh4G480YY9WXGZTD1zwRDGqgJtqrnxjaLIb/NwE= Message-ID: <4D287C5D.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:01:49 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rolf Nielsen References: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> In-Reply-To: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1DAADB19CA75552E1F9054A3" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_FAIL autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:02:02 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1DAADB19CA75552E1F9054A3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/01/2011 12:26, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > So here's what I want to do. >=20 > 1. Have fetchmail get the messages. Should not be a problem. > 2. Have an MTA (is that the right name, I always confuse them) deliver > them locally to a maildir. While you can use an MTA it's not actually necessary in this case. What you absolutely do need is a Local Delivery Agent (a.k.a Mail Deliver Agent: MDA) of which there are several available. You should be able to hook them up directly to fetchmail. Some LDAs that understand Maildir -- procmail -- stand-alone mail filtering and delivery application. deliver -- part of dovecot IMAP server > 3. Have either a POP3 or an IMAP server from which I can retrieve the > messages to whichever client I choose. dovecot works very well serving Maildir via IMAP. As mentioned elsethread, dovecot v2 isn't really stable yet. Also lacks some of the add-ons like managesieve. For a quiet life, stick to dovecot v1 for the moment. > 1 isn't a problem unless I need to make some radical changes. >=20 > How do I set up 2 in the easiest possible way? Can anyone point me to a= > tutorial or HOWTO that I've missed? Or perhaps give me some tips on how= > to do it? IIRC there's a '-m' flag to fetchmail which is what you want. The other bit of this is setting up dovecot without needing to install LDAP or MySQL or whatever. That's not very difficult actually, and covered in the Dovecot Wiki. Either use PAM authentication from Dovecot (in which case usernames, passwords etc. will be identical to what you use to log into your server), or use a local passwd format file. While you don't need an MTA for *reading* e-mail like this, you will definitely need one for sending e-mail. The good news is that it can be on some completely different system eg. provided by your ISP, or via gmail etc. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig1DAADB19CA75552E1F9054A3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0ofGUACgkQ8Mjk52CukIw1QwCffIH7kLIR02SRDg4ktxUo6w/n LikAn3gBSrValbXeSyLOtWKnPOzlLoQR =dGsV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1DAADB19CA75552E1F9054A3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 15:22:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753D210656F0 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from cp-out9.libero.it (cp-out9.libero.it [212.52.84.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02ADC8FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0204.4D287E75.001A,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-libjamoibt: 1555 Received: from soth.ventu (151.51.153.237) by cp-out9.libero.it (8.5.133) id 4D1210CD02A06266 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:10:44 +0100 Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p08FAflG032009 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:10:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <4D287E71.6010703@netfence.it> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:10:41 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; it-IT; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101211 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> In-Reply-To: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.1.2.13 Subject: Re: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:22:03 -0000 On 01/08/11 13:26, Rolf Nielsen wrote: > 1. Have fetchmail get the messages. > > 2. Have an MTA (is that the right name, I always confuse them) deliver > them locally to a maildir. > > 3. Have either a POP3 or an IMAP server from which I can retrieve the > messages to whichever client I choose. I'm using cyrus-imap with such a setup. You'll find a lot of tutorial and you don't need to change sendmail. YMMV. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 15:55:26 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9B510656BE for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:55:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from listreader@lazlarlyricon.com) Received: from mailgw13.surf-town.net (mail7.surf-town.net [212.97.132.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECBB8FC08 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mailgw13.surf-town.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6E662403B0; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:55:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw13.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE87403A9 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:55:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailgw3.surf-town.net X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=7 tests=[RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mailgw13.surf-town.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailgw13.surf-town.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rwOHpuTVzWft for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:55:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from lazlar.kicks-ass.net (c-4d80e355.09-42-6e6b7010.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.227.128.77]) by mailgw13.surf-town.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F9A4039C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:55:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D2888E5.40507@lazlarlyricon.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:55:17 +0100 From: Rolf Nielsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110107 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> <4D287C5D.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4D287C5D.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:55:26 -0000 2011-01-08 16:01, Matthew Seaman skrev: > On 08/01/2011 12:26, Rolf Nielsen wrote: >> So here's what I want to do. >> >> 1. Have fetchmail get the messages. > > Should not be a problem. > >> 2. Have an MTA (is that the right name, I always confuse them) deliver >> them locally to a maildir. > > While you can use an MTA it's not actually necessary in this case. What > you absolutely do need is a Local Delivery Agent (a.k.a Mail Deliver > Agent: MDA) of which there are several available. You should be able to > hook them up directly to fetchmail. > > Some LDAs that understand Maildir -- > > procmail -- stand-alone mail filtering and delivery application. > deliver -- part of dovecot IMAP server > >> 3. Have either a POP3 or an IMAP server from which I can retrieve the >> messages to whichever client I choose. > > dovecot works very well serving Maildir via IMAP. As mentioned > elsethread, dovecot v2 isn't really stable yet. Also lacks some of > the add-ons like managesieve. For a quiet life, stick to dovecot v1 > for the moment. > >> 1 isn't a problem unless I need to make some radical changes. >> >> How do I set up 2 in the easiest possible way? Can anyone point me to a >> tutorial or HOWTO that I've missed? Or perhaps give me some tips on how >> to do it? > > IIRC there's a '-m' flag to fetchmail which is what you want. > > The other bit of this is setting up dovecot without needing to install > LDAP or MySQL or whatever. That's not very difficult actually, and > covered in the Dovecot Wiki. Either use PAM authentication from Dovecot > (in which case usernames, passwords etc. will be identical to what you > use to log into your server), or use a local passwd format file. > > While you don't need an MTA for *reading* e-mail like this, you will > definitely need one for sending e-mail. The good news is that it can be > on some completely different system eg. provided by your ISP, or via > gmail etc. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > Thanks to all who've replied so far. Matthew's ideas strike me as the most interesting ones, and I will certainly explore them and see if I can get it working. I guess I should have explained in my original post that I neither need nor want an SMTP server locally, since I use the one my ISP provides, but I didn't know about the MDA option. Thanks again, Rolf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 16:57:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A11510656AE for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:57:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E528FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6366FE9ED; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d= experts-exchange.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :content-type:mime-version:user-agent:from:from:subject:subject :date:date:references:in-reply-to:message-id:received:received :received; s=ee; t=1294504803; x=1296319203; bh=KdpyQEGFG9RZN7qq OvrBYkYHUWGjkWCEhtKLit9g23U=; b=HeF1AlnMZvZUizeP++p28mhH6zCKsc8e 9u0G147y4y82xG5w9tZZfnGFsZ3L3v+zBxsyCO7OLUibBUfwmeuzm0r3NoBkSkRb 2jbASBFJUO7BAP1XpR1Xw28HcAJN9PKyGk0pQjLOX7O/D1u1BcKeJ9zlVyrQKceo 9IUIVFB7dQ0= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o3+K98k+3zSi; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB076FE9DC; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from 76.209.222.14 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhelfman) by mail.experts-exchange.com with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:40:02 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:40:02 -0800 From: jhelfman@experts-exchange.com To: "Tony Maserati" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:57:29 -0000 > pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? > > That's a bit silly. In fact it's pretty dumb. Sorry you all had to hear > this. That's okay. At least you survived the de-install. Any details, so it can be fixed? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 17:10:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405FC10656C3 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.user@seibercom.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E264E8FC08 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so7630073gxk.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:10:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.178.15 with SMTP id a15mr26032381ybf.382.1294506636392; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-071-070-216-068.nc.res.rr.com [71.70.216.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v4sm1143312ybe.5.2011.01.08.09.10.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Jan 2011 09:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (zeus [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: FreeBSD.user@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 143DCE5487D for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:10:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:10:22 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20110108121022.6ebb63e9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <4D287C5D.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> <4D287C5D.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEUeH4oAAI3//v8LDHmw s8gyNZ/b3ej7+vn+/v////+PjIc8Plaj/TnQAAACNElEQVQ4jaXUvW/aQBQAcFtKGZLFT+YY 3D1SR9SKoRMncE3IggU4kicGi1JYOgQwyYrgnLlSzhsoNkTuVJEp+ef6ztiAoV3aJ+QPfufn s987S/5fQvoXYPjztmfc514Ks+5JfGUCfrzt4+VabF+jwEV4DGEXN8N4p16sPLxHX07/V3qX yfF5D2H6K4V8j9NkyAphvkjBembD5PDFk3zeTzP1jcksyaV9w+d4ELmUoOp8N2p8uQVyhTAT uawnKNH2mie5lJp48mscUcbJUvg0mR6APwAoye9AMyWozY4gAh0vcxa5FJ4TKCuODESWtfkB 8AEQSupUXNIYH8FSC2w8X3eMBNbbVJpJ7MgECO5yJ9DUEWCYkzNAlsRsgwLQ1GkWqELbkDOh 1bUzoHagYkNh9MXlK/MQoA42gTxz2bhPM2DJedm8MZx6cNfJgEZJ5cmwPp5FZ/Ye8O2qTrFV dgOrHkZRBoheJiGrRquwAhnQ6GeTePPerWVmQelAQ5lwNqtvQd2lcooAV74/zR1BIRS19fy5 ru+B/8ReW9pYKMPjt609zDaitHHTGOO+Zu7gHvsKE7XbeE1QVuJXomIFuZgUJdXQdhpqEELc /e8RLjfi+cQ01yMdWot8UcCVxEWHEkcUrsDGuhaIEoM9kfgAR6jxHcmEV7tNURAl8KTHN9iF McKGFHGO62O62UMpbmlVuogQ7ndL8zXCiLeBy3xpfrqaXS/+AHDG4o8AvhuPeezD/3xL/hy/ Adjlg2odglF2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/48KWmB97o7olf2pB/yV9mE4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:10:38 -0000 --Sig_/48KWmB97o7olf2pB/yV9mE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:01:49 +0000 Matthew Seaman articulated: > dovecot works very well serving Maildir via IMAP. As mentioned > elsethread, dovecot v2 isn't really stable yet. Also lacks some of > the add-ons like managesieve. For a quiet life, stick to dovecot > v1 for the moment. I am not sure if that is correct. There seems to be some info available here: http://pigeonhole.dovecot.org/download.html regarding managesieve; ie, "For Dovecot v2.0, Pigeonhole is available as a single package containing both Sieve and ManageSieve support". In any case, I would still wait for Dovecot 2.x to stabilize further. --=20 Jerry =E2=9C=8C FreeBSD.user@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ I exist, therefore I am paid. --Sig_/48KWmB97o7olf2pB/yV9mE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNKJqJAAoJEHdwsA8xwKhFzjoH/2tbczoNlK+EdXZypNpkyJIN PtovJyS74/K3I74VrvQtshxjFYaZ6RUwANltCFBySZUhba1mG8N/WLRVzqA7cWce B7hmn3WmwKicZT+HXl8IOmmSN8cNRlogUaQos2V4vlGQUMiQppbMFwOAM12RNWRQ jQ8t/VgyqpHTjzC3x14ko2vhcRHBxCEsQiwsbSmvWh5u7FRDEbNayJUiwh0iawQS 8A6GpBDjw1tOZHifTcg5+UmxfHPBfxSmiL1noNl4gcOICkWtyI0t+n4tIIFQGncJ xGMboxpIimuSPwRbyvu7dSsnkRSGrjSGu3ZzOTIIE8vI/zt313Fy4anN7ZXfPrQ= =/IrU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/48KWmB97o7olf2pB/yV9mE4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 17:54:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F4F10656AD for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) Received: from i2bnetworks.com (odyssey.prod.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.0.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEB48FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.181.2.172] (ip-66-181-2-172.cust.i2bnetworks.com [66.181.2.172]) by i2bnetworks.com (8.14.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id p08Hs0Pc095014; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:54:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from troy@i2bnetworks.com) References: <3c43c95.f3140a8c4eb071f6395d43d0fee61f43@webmail.themidnightexpressbbs.com> <4D27F81C.8030607@sentex.net> In-Reply-To: <4D27F81C.8030607@sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148) From: Troy Beisigl Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 09:52:33 -0800 To: Mike Tancsa X-SpacelinkPC: LL odyssey.i2bnetworks.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 9650SE-2LP raid card locks system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 17:54:01 -0000 We are using 7. We see this in 8 as well. We see it on dual and quad core C= PUs. I'm currently testing out another motherboard (different model) to see h= ow it performs. Should know something by the end of the coming week. =20 Troy Beisigl On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On 1/7/2011 9:31 PM, Troy Beisigl wrote: >> Well, it did lock up today. There is no way to do anything on the console= . The entire machine is locked hard. The errors on the console show: >>=20 >=20 >=20 >> twa0: ERROR: (0x05: 0x210B): Request timed out!: request =3D 0xc5633430 >> twa0: INFO: (0x16: 0x1108): Resetting controller...: >=20 >=20 > I saw this on an i7 box running RELENG_6, but moving to 7 made all quite > stable. Are you using 6 by chance ? The box is an i7 920 >=20 > ACPI APIC Table: > FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs > cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 > cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 2 > cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 4 > cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 6 >=20 > ---Mike > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 19:18:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B158910656B5 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9A88FC08 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so8549851ewy.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:18:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.105.205 with SMTP id u13mr532629ebo.25.1294514317103; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:18:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 11:18:16 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: WPA Supplicant issue (maybe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 19:18:40 -0000 Greetings! I got bwn to recognize my wireless card, I think there is still something missing tho and it's left me scratching my head. [root@blackdragon ~]# dmesg | grep -e bwn -e wlan0 module_register: module siba_bwn/bwn already exists! Module siba_bwn/bwn failed to register: 17 siba_bwn0: mem 0xfc000000-0xfc003fff irq 23 at device 0.0 on pci8 bwn0 on siba_bwn0 bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4312 rev 15) PHY (analog 6 type 5 rev 1) RADIO (manuf 0x17f ver 0x2062 rev 2) bwn0: DMA (64 bits) bwn0: Using 1 MSI messages bwn0: [FILTER] wlan0: Ethernet address: 00:21:00:12:48:86 bwn_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2 bwn0: the fw file(bwn_v4_lp_ucode15) not found bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2 bwn0: the fw file(bwn-open_v4_lp_ucode15) not found [root@blackdragon ~]# grep -e bwn -e wlan /etc/rc.conf wlans_bwn0="wlan0" ifconfig_wlan0="WPA DHCP" [root@blackdragon ~]# cat /boot/loader.conf if_bwn_load="YES" wlan_wep_load="YES" wlan_ccmp_load="YES" wlan_tkip_load="YES" bwn_v4_ucode_load="YES" [root@blackdragon ~]# grep -A4 Broadcom kernels/BlackDragon # Broadcom Wireless Networking Driver device siba_bwn device bwn device wlan device firmware [root@blackdragon ~]# kldstat Id Refs Address Size Name 1 13 0xffffffff80100000 9d9f90 kernel 2 1 0xffffffff80ada000 41368 if_bwn.ko 3 1 0xffffffff80b1c000 2b8b0 bwn_v4_ucode.ko 4 1 0xffffffff80c22000 e82 dragon_saver.ko [root@blackdragon ~]# ifconfig [..] bwn0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:21:00:12:48:86 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (autoselect) status: no carrier [..] wlan0: flags=8802 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:21:00:12:48:86 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (autoselect) status: no carrier ssid "" channel 1 (2412 MHz 11b) country US authmode WPA1+WPA2/802.11i privacy OFF txpower 30 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 1 wme bintval 0 [root@blackdragon ~]# cat /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf network={ ssid="The Realm" proto=WPA key_mgmt=WPA-PSK psk=SoMeEnCrYpTeDkEy } [root@blackdragon ~]# uname -a FreeBSD blackdragon.xaerolimit.net 8.1-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p2 #1: Sat Jan 8 13:08:03 EST 2011 root@blackdragon.xaerolimit.net:/usr/obj/usr/srcs/8.1/sys/BlackDragon amd64 I'm not sure what I missed but it won't recognize my AP or try to actually associate it with ... (I do realize that this may still be broke on amd64 as was my understanding from my last e-mail about this from the thread 'Broadcom Wireless b/g (BCM4315/BCM22062000)'. If I've missed anything, let me know... C- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 20:58:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E961106566C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8848FC15 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwj9 with SMTP id 9so18082907qwj.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:57:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=b+iAkwXKJwMZcgLkaqvM7qd4/lLySjX5lYzStb2cIuE=; b=juGIzoIsyYbAwahEGJkH2B6JEUWJ2qs3x6oRu1QRmVogHpqqMiHbTA660UnMyV5YIb 25w6f3omxR3OR3WhH3BxedXgOIHy/NPttiq737ekJm7Po5w4pcCPwO7tRfk+wVx9p+8U ocTuvwOuLsYGXtRQp73fsQaJ4AP7otsRc+C/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=uEvqUYOMsfDkrz1QGFh9yVWLswU2GOZ+yC11yCFEaIve9nr44UAKpGul9J3qaabkvw XHT64Avm1bvI+rzk9SU35HILB6UT6a+BsQsx+HydntapC3Av51zDIVOONvW9wpSzOAgA 71iFbO7Zn2ACC6HMbAPJfrCprLQz7W+XEiMtA= Received: by 10.224.11.68 with SMTP id s4mr25107865qas.385.1294520278597; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 12:57:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.175.141 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:57:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Paul B Mahol Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:57:38 +0100 Message-ID: To: Chris Brennan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: WPA Supplicant issue (maybe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:58:00 -0000 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Chris Brennan wrote: > Greetings! > > I got bwn to recognize my wireless card, I think there is still something > missing tho and it's left me scratching my head. > > [root@blackdragon ~]# dmesg | grep -e bwn -e wlan0 > module_register: module siba_bwn/bwn already exists! > Module siba_bwn/bwn failed to register: 17 > siba_bwn0: mem 0xfc000000-0xfc003fff > irq 23 at device 0.0 on pci8 > bwn0 on siba_bwn0 > bwn0: WLAN (chipid 0x4312 rev 15) PHY (analog 6 type 5 rev 1) RADIO (manuf > 0x17f ver 0x2062 rev 2) > bwn0: DMA (64 bits) > bwn0: Using 1 MSI messages > bwn0: [FILTER] > wlan0: Ethernet address: 00:21:00:12:48:86 > bwn_v4_lp_ucode15: could not load firmware image, error 2 Try to load lp firmware instead of non-lp. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 21:01:34 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7AE1065740 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:01:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=09822b2e4b=johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [64.57.183.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3748FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:01:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 72292 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2011 20:34:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=11a63.4d28ca6c.k1101; i=johnl@submit.iecc.com; bh=Ko0VhiYTJJZiG5oGwx67ZG3zE9sYZ67uicLo07n/POI=; b=GXxdFOMuCTDeWWxCEFbcfpZFDCdx25wrWYo+3wN55TDQSKqSbiuQ7c1aqZQXtv70RfgxRtZnbF0X+1fg5Nf8tlwGSurWJ5/UA6OYgDbnay/Loj5fzB9OxH2hBV5vRVCtRoufaJIGBygWwnxMnPO0df6IWPeFsmezdN7knlZOf2o= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd johnl@64.57.183.62) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Jan 2011 20:34:30 -0000 Date: 8 Jan 2011 15:34:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Jan Henrik Sylvester" In-Reply-To: <4D1B7BA8.9050400@janh.de> References: <20101229165603.2092.qmail@joyce.lan> <4D1B7BA8.9050400@janh.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot build openjdk6 on Fbsd 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:01:34 -0000 > java/openjdk6 WITH_WEB will give you the plugin to use with www/firefox. I'm trying to build openjdk6, and I get this error message. Any suggestions? R's, John IcedTeaPluginUtils.cc IcedTeaScriptablePluginObject.cc In file included from IcedTeaJavaRequestProcessor.h:46, from IcedTeaJavaRequestProcessor.cc:41: IcedTeaNPPlugin.h:43:27: error: nsThreadUtils.h: No such file or directory In file included from IcedTeaJavaRequestProcessor.h:46, from IcedTeaScriptablePluginObject.h:49, from IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:51: IcedTeaNPPlugin.h:43:27: error: nsThreadUtils.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:56:31: error: nsIPluginInstance.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:57:35: error: nsIPluginInstancePeer.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:58:31: error: nsIPluginTagInfo2.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:62:30: error: nsICookieService.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:63:26: error: nsIDNSRecord.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:64:27: error: nsIDNSService.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:65:24: error: nsINetUtil.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:66:26: error: nsIProxyInfo.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:67:37: error: nsIProtocolProxyService.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:68:38: error: nsIScriptSecurityManager.h: No such file or directory IcedTeaNPPlugin.cc:71:22: error: nsNetCID.h: No such file or directory In file included from IcedTeaJavaRequestProcessor.h:46, from IcedTeaScriptablePluginObject.h:49, from IcedTeaPluginRequestProcessor.cc:41: IcedTeaNPPlugin.h:43:27: error: nsThreadUtils.h: No such file or directory In file included from IcedTeaPluginUtils.cc:39: IcedTeaNPPlugin.h:43:27: error: nsThreadUtils.h: No such file or directory In file included from IcedTeaJavaRequestProcessor.h:46, from IcedTeaScriptablePluginObject.h:49, from IcedTeaScriptablePluginObject.cc:41: IcedTeaNPPlugin.h:43:27: error: nsThreadUtils.h: No such file or directory From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 21:25:56 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFB21065672 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7958FC1B for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so8568160ewy.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.25.140 with SMTP id z12mr600740ebb.12.1294521954911; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:25:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 13:25:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:25:34 -0500 Message-ID: To: Paul B Mahol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: WPA Supplicant issue (maybe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:25:56 -0000 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > Try to load lp firmware instead of non-lp. Paul thanks for getting back to me so quickly. That did the trick. Once I loaded the lp driver, it powered up correctly and negotiated with my AP. The problem now is I can't route ... which is odd because defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" should cover both interfaces or do I need to do defaultrouter_wlan0="192.168.0.1" ? I can route via nfe0 (wired) just fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 21:29:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F42C1065672 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933048FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.mail.yandex.net (smtp1.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.101]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id ED86214D031B for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:18:08 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1294521488; bh=78bghxq2ZKhkeYmVLTDPccClD0c49KJk2e+6uQcmzmA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tpx05BbdT2WgfqWb9QP1cg7kLxxC/+eHp70LiVJLsbbeyvIyROSYdtBbaJgDxhdwR UL5K8HQy1TFBAWYKYRoFdsdPP6Vq9kj99rQ2rPhAUzyfvOqwEurTgVRaWrxU3wcl0l dbXwe1YmR1aGL6fT/re3uqV81dRQTf0MbPlz5wQg= Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.52.5]) by smtp1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id B830E29006F for ; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:18:08 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:18:07 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <155307659.20110108231807@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: How to clean system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:29:13 -0000 Hi System have many programs. Wanna to upgrade to new version of FBSD Is it possible to clean system from garbage (all programs, files, header files, except configuration files) like installing FBSD from CD? is there cmd? make clean-system -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 21:35:32 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E772F106566B for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:35:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6428FC18 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:35:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Status: No X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-0.629, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, FSL_RU_URL 2.27) X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-ID: p08LZGMD023604 Received: from gkeramidas-glaptop.linux.gr (217-162-216-74.dclient.hispeed.ch [217.162.216.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id p08LZGMD023604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:35:22 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= References: <155307659.20110108231807@yandex.ru> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:35:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: <155307659.20110108231807@yandex.ru> (=?utf-8?B?ItCa0L7QvdGM?= =?utf-8?B?0LrQvtCyINCV0LLQs9C10L3QuNC5Iidz?= message of "Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:18:07 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to clean system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:35:33 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:18:07 +0200, =D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0= =B2 =D0=95=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9 wrote: > Hi > System have many programs. > Wanna to upgrade to new version of FBSD > > Is it possible to clean system from garbage (all programs, files, > header files, except configuration files) > like installing FBSD from CD? > > is there cmd? > make clean-system No, there's no such command. If you are looking for a way to 'deinstall all ports & packages' though, it may be as easy as: 1. Remove all the currently installed ports: # rm -fr /usr/local # mkdir /usr/local && cd /usr/local # mtree -deU < /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist 2. Remove all the information about 'installed packages', because you don't have any of these anymore: # rm -fr /var/db/pkg/* 3. Optionally, if you are going to reconfigure all your ports from scratch, remove the saved port configuration options: # rm -fr /var/db/ports/* From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 21:41:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C55106566B for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward3.mail.yandex.net (forward3.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852C28FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:41:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.mail.yandex.net (smtp1.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.101]) by forward3.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 5D0B056D8401; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:41:25 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1294522885; bh=W356W3QhIgxxMYxelDDJ3GbQQqRAo29jhO9qWr634S0=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=j4ryYVP/rYEj5uC0iI+z1f5MuYeI5SXfUirnbaPMX50g8vZajdtBewXkb5vsu5i8M gE+BJhu9loG63Ydc9aP5zIAPt4avuul9rV3ElgsA2gKPIjYMy1cAoD1MhKfGUg5QhW 4gqEonYHfsY7PT1my6NwSPcWFbU/7/92UFsXwjwg= Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.52.5]) by smtp1.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id 118D029009F; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:41:24 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:41:24 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KfQnyDQmtC+0L3RjNC60L7QsiwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1801316867.20110108234124@yandex.ru> To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: References: <155307659.20110108231807@yandex.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: How to clean system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?utf-8?B?0JrQvtC90YzQutC+0LIg0JXQstCz0LXQvdC40Lk=?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:41:29 -0000 GK> On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:18:07 +0200, Коньков Евгений wrote: >> Hi >> System have many programs. >> Wanna to upgrade to new version of FBSD >> >> Is it possible to clean system from garbage (all programs, files, >> header files, except configuration files) >> like installing FBSD from CD? >> >> is there cmd? >> make clean-system GK> No, there's no such command. If you are looking for a way to 'deinstall GK> all ports & packages' though, it may be as easy as: GK> 1. Remove all the currently installed ports: GK> # rm -fr /usr/local GK> # mkdir /usr/local && cd /usr/local GK> # mtree -deU < /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist GK> 2. Remove all the information about 'installed packages', because you GK> don't have any of these anymore: GK> # rm -fr /var/db/pkg/* GK> 3. Optionally, if you are going to reconfigure all your ports from GK> scratch, remove the saved port configuration options: GK> # rm -fr /var/db/ports/* I have tried: pkg_delete -a but many files are left in /usr/bin /usr/sbin ... ((( also there are files from old 7.2 system, now I have 9.0 -- С уважением, Коньков mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 21:43:29 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EF21065694; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kes-kes@yandex.ru) Received: from forward5.mail.yandex.net (forward5.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5DF48FC0C; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:43:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp3.mail.yandex.net (smtp3.mail.yandex.net [77.88.46.103]) by forward5.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 0D0A714D018C; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:43:22 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1294523002; bh=ZjT55ZiiqKzRjmNdCLHnmy5FRBoyyTjR8NCl0ja0rTE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:Message-ID:To:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nrdQAU6EaQNExGK6t1/JX4hnFPWWcaU5OdFy8TL55HIFRbrdJjqoQn9jUJkiYPXjk y41u/YBx+CntAmvU1b04KLq2bSjDZhPfYbzbGoVaYptUiDIayeC+gWOg6lIpHwfzRy cf29nZvawndo3/0YsgcxEWqbaenVd1ArrslOqBOw= Received: from HOMEUSER (unknown [77.93.52.5]) by smtp3.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTPA id B711227807F; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 00:43:21 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:43:22 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) Professional Organization: =?windows-1251?B?188gyu7t/Oru4iwgRnJlZUxpbmU=?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <66353398.20110108234322@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: error while compile port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?windows-1251?B?yu7t/Oru4iDF4uPl7ejp?= List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:43:29 -0000 Hi cd /usr/ports// make -j 16 install there are different errors, I think because of some other thread is do step 2 while step 1 is required to complete. -- Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Êîíüêîâ mailto:kes-kes@yandex.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 21:53:46 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA80E1065674 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7258FC08 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-195-143-131.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.143.131]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B5E3D98D; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:53:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id p08LriqX003570; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:53:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:53:43 +0100 From: Polytropon To: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=9A=D0=BE=D0=BD=D1=8C=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=B2_=D0=95=D0=B2?= =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=B3=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B9?= Message-Id: <20110108225343.80796934.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <1801316867.20110108234124@yandex.ru> References: <155307659.20110108231807@yandex.ru> <1801316867.20110108234124@yandex.ru> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re[2]: How to clean system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:53:47 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:41:24 +0200, Коньков Евгений wrote: > I have tried: pkg_delete -a > but many files are left in /usr/bin /usr/sbin ... ((( Keep in mind that FreeBSD is not Linux. There is the base system (/usr/bin, /usr/sbin, ...), and there are the applications installed by ports or packages (/usr/local subtree). See /usr/src/Makefile's comment section about how to clean out obsolete parts of the base system. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 22:09:38 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7391065694; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:09:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6988FC1E; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86BCE8B4A; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:09:36 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=dmaljsKsDmgK UEuUmMR+V70rncc=; b=w+Of9KGp+rJmSeeXw8I4EcMZGGKCs2W8wEa1QRGUyFP1 dqgOKAzaCNRt43yMB9ek6PZdqgebsG3TI0m533yaGEut5fpijFB8gD76nLMvRZ08 dPVFANj0EvHbJzCUNcn34JjiXwM0e74ftKNkelxpl4Kfb2Mk2I0hJiiyghnzKD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=CmBIUc dmNCEgEaPdeAGXsFKq4sXXFKn9kLCrvYoWF2tL9eU3w2denw5GWz/h5bYE5UpT/y hsj9pstvJrVzaMo65JLwB5O6kh1vU/n8aXkgHBsgnn2A9Ka2FKCoV1BGM/hGKu2M dJ51V4q1BKHPxgdHLmR67vIjLIGptnAMQkNdk= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65AF9E72B1; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:09:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:09:31 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: =?windows-1251?Q?=CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2_=C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9?= Message-ID: <20110108220931.000061d2@unknown> In-Reply-To: <66353398.20110108234322@yandex.ru> References: <66353398.20110108234322@yandex.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error while compile port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:09:38 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:43:22 +0200 =CA=EE=ED=FC=EA=EE=E2 =C5=E2=E3=E5=ED=E8=E9 wrote: > cd /usr/ports// > make -j 16 install Don't do that then :) Ports which are marked MAKE_JOBS_SAFE will automatically be built using -j as far as I know. --=20 Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 22:22:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830331065673 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:22:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f54.google.com (mail-vw0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3394D8FC19 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws9 with SMTP id 9so7489283vws.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:22:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=z/dTEIFfN5/MG2TSguDOq4zBxwC5uhvY5pc0GXTWBQU=; b=q4osrfDI7U6+ka7Th62SW5ptYFPM0NnqPEWnPRhBjx8oGjPhTWO/v5p8xVZeJJgRFU 186yb4hZ1eINzYClmjQvB8nDKnFWVLVy2fzoVXgNElaji4gu6HiKAgt21TyOvEBwwFSi QMeYKJbEaRX+TvhpBQ07qxw/9FiAXJBwj6IO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jyP0PDMi3mh2+U7kp+KObeGAkiu92GjgWh9r6h+0sYOd6cmO/zu4Lgph14qOzCLEkD NazgRe0osL+px1OaFjiv83FhcbhPJth71cQnklJfvXP3fS6SeF/+F1I0p67tnUDF2Bbh kwMOb8W74JTnW1xJhQQjFKZJmU2w3MYzSAOZk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.75.136 with SMTP id y8mr3430972vcj.226.1294525322171; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:22:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.175.141 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:22:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:22:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: Paul B Mahol To: Chris Brennan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: WPA Supplicant issue (maybe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:22:03 -0000 On 1/8/11, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > >> Try to load lp firmware instead of non-lp. > > > > Paul thanks for getting back to me so quickly. That did the trick. Once I > loaded the lp driver, it powered up correctly and negotiated with my AP. The > problem now is I can't route ... which is odd because > > defaultrouter="192.168.0.1" > > should cover both interfaces or do I need to do > > defaultrouter_wlan0="192.168.0.1" ? I do not know your AP setup so I can not answer this. Perhaps AP use DHCP and you want to bridge wired and wireless device? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 22:25:28 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97AE01065674 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:25:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE0D8FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so18697513wyf.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:25:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dHLiuhXxoNmyF95HD5RL5gl+/63Qnb79xSdC6VQpBWQ=; b=ua0KW0uYsCBQ87DG8FidkhJa0A9mlzS3c5AthqM95w5t1730QI+Lxn6jQsLlCcTH4s cDcLhDKRyLnRslT/2WeeJsWBiA/B+fPuzRseIjYLeIZQ2tuSqTFyNeGjtI+TwMCnp1Me Ay/yEexF+eklhtEJQfU2v3kImquo/mhQ0rXFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YfRpxtukGYlmPsI0Chpz3NlOUdHBNi41FhND3r9GBcxx0pJaQ5itwQTUPacD1eOq94 3DVsRO0uWWPY7FhHF4xWP2hfXXub5ksOpPLOAV1O6xpnikn7vWGX+MbGR7qO5/uWc5W3 x/388pX5t4nrYU9LcIxsMkPmFf6nwS5DPgtg0= Received: by 10.227.136.15 with SMTP id p15mr16893241wbt.134.1294525526468; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:25:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m10sm18801371wbc.4.2011.01.08.14.25.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:25:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:25:22 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110108222522.310a7011@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <4D2888E5.40507@lazlarlyricon.com> References: <4D2857EE.1090808@lazlarlyricon.com> <4D287C5D.1000209@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4D2888E5.40507@lazlarlyricon.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Probably a bit OT] A question about mail systems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:25:28 -0000 On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:55:17 +0100 Rolf Nielsen wrote: > Thanks to all who've replied so far. Matthew's ideas strike me as the > most interesting ones, and I will certainly explore them and see if I > can get it working. > I guess I should have explained in my original post that I neither > need nor want an SMTP server locally, since I use the one my ISP > provides, but I didn't know about the MDA option. You can also use getmail to deliver directly from the remote accounts to maildir if you want, though I'd use dovecot "deliver" IIWY. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 22:29:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F31106564A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xaero@xaerolimit.net) Received: from mail-ew0-f54.google.com (mail-ew0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4668FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy24 with SMTP id 24so8576233ewy.13 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.109.9 with SMTP id h9mr625771ebp.38.1294525739497; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:28:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.8.142 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:28:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Brennan Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 17:28:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: Paul B Mahol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: WPA Supplicant issue (maybe) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:29:01 -0000 On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Paul B Mahol wrote: > I do not know your AP setup so I can not answer this. Perhaps AP use > DHCP and you want to bridge wired and wireless device? > It's a fairly straight forward setup, right now I just want to independently route on both devices, I am debating on setting them up so wired will failover to wireless when it's unplugged. Thanks for the initial tip but I need to put this one down for now lol. C- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 22:29:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4048106566B for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954328FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p08MTdri048217; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:29:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id p08MTcSi048214; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:29:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 15:29:38 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Bruce Cran In-Reply-To: <20110108220931.000061d2@unknown> Message-ID: References: <66353398.20110108234322@yandex.ru> <20110108220931.000061d2@unknown> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:29:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: =?KOI8-R?B?68/O2MvP1yDl18fFzsnK?= , freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error while compile port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:29:43 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:43:22 +0200 > ??????? ??????? wrote: > >> cd /usr/ports// >> make -j 16 install > > Don't do that then :) > > Ports which are marked MAKE_JOBS_SAFE will automatically be built using > -j as far as I know. Yes, and MAKE_JOBS_NUMBER= can be set in /etc/make.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 22:30:04 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84767106564A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dteske@vicor.com) Received: from postoffice.vicor.com (postoffice.vicor.com [69.26.56.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0658FC21 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [71.202.142.31] (port=53894 helo=[192.168.1.93]) by postoffice.vicor.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PbhIQ-0004Si-8N; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 14:30:03 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Devin Teske In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:30:01 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: Tony Maserati X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081) X-Scan-Signature: 29c8ac1d940bf8201d216b89f1a38078 X-Scan-Host: postoffice.vicor.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:30:04 -0000 On Jan 8, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Tony Maserati wrote: > pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? > Try: pkg_delete -x vsftpd -- Devin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 22:37:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9371065672 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhelfman@experts-exchange.com) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [72.29.183.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FA98FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:37:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A134BCA8640; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:37:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=e-e.com; h= user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :content-type:mime-version:references:message-id:subject:subject :from:from:date:date:received:received:received; s=ee; t= 1294526259; x=1296340659; bh=9Tren1yJoWfAE+SyBVXZXup7ZF7uIQCss94 cTKV577o=; b=Pjp19IHX44Fkz2oluIayzAyVH9VdHUFAdus/d6qBfnz2yfxW8lX PMEzKnHLUDoD7fMFwdPFxZewf++FbmNNaZtj29ylI+4xsrjU+PXROXB4ERZEtPKW ONRLhEknn4A0EvbXJvzdY4yHgx2z7AWMyEOOOMYRW5DVI7kgV/9tPUkE= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at experts-exchange.com Received: from mail.experts-exchange.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (mail.experts-exchange.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HS-ivQ5PaWdj; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from experts-exchange.com (unknown [192.168.103.122]) by mail.experts-exchange.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 500B5CA863A; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (nullmailer pid 77784 invoked by uid 1001); Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:34:29 -0000 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 14:34:29 -0800 From: Jason Helfman To: Devin Teske Message-ID: <20110108223429.GA77756@eggman.experts-exchange.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE X-Living-The-Dream: I love the SLO Life! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Tony Maserati , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 22:37:40 -0000 On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 02:30:01PM -0800, Devin Teske thus spake: > >On Jan 8, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Tony Maserati wrote: > >> pkg_deinstall vsftpd-ssl-2.3.2 works but not pkg_deinstall vsftpd??? >> > >Try: > >pkg_delete -x vsftpd I tried this operation on both vsftpd and vsftpd-ssl and they both deinstall properly. -jgh > >-- >Devin > > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Jason Helfman System Administrator experts-exchange.com http://www.experts-exchange.com/M_4830110.html E4AD 7CF1 1396 27F6 79DD 4342 5E92 AD66 8C8C FBA5 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 23:37:45 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593FA106566C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDDB8FC18 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so18286114wwf.31 for ; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:37:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eWXcybAdWtllWnYPbvV9czl4GL3Vizq4KsT6hcG5gw4=; b=IqDBKUtSaMBnO2UZ72hGnWkIj5CC63yAKv6FeOZuyM6ooMTFDCx6VFin0HW1Z/Ab+J XDGaBXUF98VTfVpvWbGmatqR9g1Ytbl7KJ4G6GpIQKIvA7W9/4+c8IYMC3e8KnjbAFem nozfeOH8YaFWCJ4xzgse1TY9Pw+bS/85A1vO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JNMLGzz5zkaNR0LHbrUrug5RWr70PRJw/Ig4oNJG7pq9MMRGS5c8mHlbFG/zhEUxdG mxmmnd4jguTVGlLUgRDmjnVmLlQcuNRyRm6xUdQqIlB6slk5eFLn8mEG+B9YBz7QulyP j97CJMNSR/G7zXpN295pisF2LeSdaIbn5GJp4= Received: by 10.227.145.3 with SMTP id b3mr2437977wbv.14.1294529863870; Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (87-194-105-247.bethere.co.uk [87.194.105.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m10sm18839166wbc.16.2011.01.08.15.37.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Jan 2011 15:37:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:37:40 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110108233740.322f7665@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20110108220931.000061d2@unknown> References: <66353398.20110108234322@yandex.ru> <20110108220931.000061d2@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: error while compile port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:37:45 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 22:09:31 +0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:43:22 +0200 > Êîíüêîâ Åâãåíèé wrote: > > > cd /usr/ports// > > make -j 16 install > > Don't do that then :) > > Ports which are marked MAKE_JOBS_SAFE will automatically be built > using -j as far as I know. They are also doing very different things. MAKE_JOBS_SAFE applies -j to GNU make, which is invoked to do the actual compiling of third-party software. make -j 16 install applies -j to BSD make, which is used to implement the ports system itself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 8 23:47:15 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B5E106566C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5646C8FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674C1E8B4A; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:47:14 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=FWVB5DVY4zle MIsOgVTzLyF1Qcg=; b=CR5wsR4z05ghtI5mqL68IzDmIIXOoFbMmyADDoq+SM3n kxZcQPBXyIgPMMR57tUbijtSRSxswOJQnmU5HsIe2zpGHOvQ+rClWYvDDqKglS6e zphuAgrqGqFOo4ZK/kl07ii1+tGHx1I4KCFdd6gZCtdEN9JyvybDrQskSR3yLeg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=cran.org.uk; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=GuF4xd y9S5b6BAHksvaOut2jnAyxOIAqQzSWc33tM6bc7v9j9MnSp2dvIkWecx80/AJ1jl /tJtE99BWvLz70oSf7uUF/q96yst9iW0opRPbHbE4Eo28wzRgHM8aDCBio126Zpi Yr250vOqHWy3SonbIS1Ol3qVtfbuTa9zgGFxM= Received: from unknown (client-86-27-23-77.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com [86.27.23.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20BF2E72B1; Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:47:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:47:08 +0000 From: Bruce Cran To: RW Message-ID: <20110108234708.0000254e@unknown> In-Reply-To: <20110108233740.322f7665@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <66353398.20110108234322@yandex.ru> <20110108220931.000061d2@unknown> <20110108233740.322f7665@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: error while compile port X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:47:15 -0000 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 23:37:40 +0000 RW wrote: > They are also doing very different things. MAKE_JOBS_SAFE applies -j > to GNU make, which is invoked to do the actual compiling of > third-party software. make -j 16 install applies -j to BSD make, which > is used to implement the ports system itself. So MAKE_JOBS_SAFE applies to the code, "make -j 16" applies to the ports infrastructure - both of which could be using BSD make :) -- Bruce Cran