From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 15 00:57:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F91716A4CE for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:57:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp11.wanadoo.fr (smtp11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E581343D2F for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:57:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from atkielski.anthony@wanadoo.fr) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 205001C0008C for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:57:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from pix.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-111-2-1-3.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.80.3]) by mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ED59A1C0008A for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:57:11 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050215005711972.ED59A1C0008A@mwinf1102.wanadoo.fr Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:57:11 +0100 From: Anthony Atkielski X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <7710244285.20050215015711@wanadoo.fr> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2fd864e05021416142cfe2249@mail.gmail.com> References: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AE6@mvaexch01.acuson.com> <2fd864e05021416142cfe2249@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: SPAM: Score 3.3: Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 00:57:13 -0000 Astrodog writes: > %60-some percent of webservers run Apache. More than 2 million of > those run FreeBSD, (Almost as many as all of Linux combined) There's a > bit more to it than exposure. First, those numbers are far lower than the number of desktops exposed to the Net. And second, servers are much more tightly controlled than desktops, and are much less visible, and so they make less interesting targets for many kiddies. Even so, as I've said before, the one virus infection I've had was an infection of Apache on FreeBSD. > NIS/NIS+/LDAP, can all do this quite well. Combined with NFS... hot > damn, you have the same thing, except minus the whole > overhead/multiuser issue below From=20what little I know of NIS, it's quite different from SMS on Windows networks, and it has some serious security issues. > If he is following ANSI C, and keeps his code modular, for the most > part, the OS its actually written on is irrelevent. Yes, but hardly anyone writes real-world application systems in ANSI C. > Yay for TrustedBSD. FreeBSD 5.3 provides some limited support for ACLs as well, although I haven't the courage to be a pioneer and experiment with it (in any case, I don't need it on my server, and in serverland, if you don't need it, you don't install it). > Hrm. Every time I boot my system, it asks for a username, and > password. If I don't know the root password.... I could boot it single > user.... but even then, it STILL asks. I remember that there is a way around this, but I don't remember the specifics. On a Windows system, you never get this opportunity. At best, you can log on as a local user (if you have a local account), but then you have no access to Windows network resources. Once you log into a domain account, the SMS stuff will run, if present--you can't stop it. In the days when I had to deal with SMS, the only way we could prevent it from running was to use a hacked version of the OS. --=20 Anthony