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Date:      Fri, 23 May 2008 16:26:45 +0300
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, James Seward <jamesoff@gmail.com>, Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>
Subject:   Re: BTX loader hangs after version info
Message-ID:  <20080523132645.GO29770@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <200805230829.09524.jhb@freebsd.org>
References:  <720051dc0805220159n23eb6205yfcf9450be7af5c77@mail.gmail.com> <48361C6F.2050108@paradise.net.nz> <20080523115311.GM29770@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <200805230829.09524.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 08:29:09AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
> On Friday 23 May 2008 07:53:11 am Kostik Belousov wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 01:22:55PM +1200, Mark Kirkwood wrote:
> > > James Seward wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >Two days ago I csup'd my desktop at home, which was running RELENG_7
> > > >from about 7.0-RELEASE time, to bring it up-to-date (still on
> > > >RELENG_7). I followed my usual buildkernel/world procedure (the usual
> > > >one) which has worked fine all the way since 5.x. After installing
> > > >kernel and restarting in single user, it was working fine. However,
> > > >following installworld it will not boot.
> > > >
> > > >It stops immediately after "BTX loader 1.00 BTX version 1.02", but
> > > >with the cursor on the line *above* the first "B". Nothing futher
> > > >happens, but the system responds to Ctrl-Alt-Del.
> > > >
> > > >I have managed to start it using the install CD and csup'd back to a
> > > >version just before the commit to BTX that moved it to 1.02 (March
> > > >18th, I think). However, that version too hangs after "BTX loader 1.=
00
> > > >BTX version 1.01".
> > > >
> > > >My desktop is currently building RELENG_7_0 to see if that will work,
> > > >but I won't know that until later as I'm at work and it is at home :)
> > > >
> > > >The install CD (BTX 1.00/1.01) boots fine. Nothing else changed on my
> > > >system between the last successful boot and the unsuccessful one.
> > > >
> > > >Any suggestions/advice for what I can try next, or what I can do to
> > > >help the troubleshooting process?
> > > >
> > > >My desktop is an Athlon64 but I am using i386, on an Asus A8V-E Delu=
xe
> > > >board.
> > >
> > > FWIW - I am seeing this too, on a Supermicro P3TDDE. 7-STABLE src from
> > > 28-Feb is fine, but Mar, Apr, May code all hangs after printing "load=
ing
> > > /boot/defaults/loader.conf" - presumably reading my /boot/loader.conf?
> > >
> > > Interestingly I can usually get it to boot by escaping to the loader
> > > prompt and then just pressing return.
> > >
> > > Oddly some other machines (Supermicro P3TDER and Asus PRO31J Laptop)
> > > behave normally with src from Mar->May.
> > >
> > > In all cases the canonical procedure from UPDATING was used (buildwor=
ld,
> > > kernel, reboot single, mergemaster -p, installworld, delete-old,
> > > mergemaster, reboot).
> > >
> > > I happy to help collect some debug info (how do you switch this on for
> > > the loader?), tho the machine exhibiting the problem is my workstation
> > > (of course)!
> >
> > Try to install new bootblock.
>=20
> I would be wary of that as it might make things worse?  These problems ar=
e all=20
> from starting /boot/loader.  boot2 is still working fine and thus there i=
s=20
> still the possiblity of using boot2 to load /boot/loader.old as a workaro=
und. =20
> If you update boot2 and it breaks you can't fix that w/o booting off of s=
ome=20
> other media such as a CD.
>=20
> Debugging these hangs is not easy to do remotely.  If you know assembly t=
hen=20
> there are some things you can play with.  For example, in the case where =
it=20
> hangs after printing out the BTX version (from btxldr.S) you could start=
=20
> adding debugging to btx.S to print out '.' characters in various places a=
nd=20
> see how many get printed out before it hangs.  However, doing this requir=
es=20
> familiarity with assembly and is a lot easier with physical access to a b=
ox.

When I worked on my version of the realbtx, I sometimes experienced hangs w=
hen
vm86 btx run before real-mode btx. I did not investigated it then, only not=
ed
the issue.

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