From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 8 16:02:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA08319 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08313 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03751; Tue, 8 Apr 1997 16:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704082301.QAA03751@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: dennis cc: Peter Dufault , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Unix Gurus shift to Microsoft (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Apr 1997 18:47:49 EDT." <3.0.32.19970408184747.00a54250@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 16:01:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am not thinking backwards and I am pretty sure specially in this Unix group that many will share your opinion. There are quite a number of companies which can actually pull off the same number that Microsoft just did. See Ya, Amancio >From The Desk Of dennis : > At 02:47 PM 4/8/97 -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > >Yes, It is nice to chalked up to Microsoft the purchase of WebTV;however, > >the real question is if any of the big computer companies even tried to ??? > > > >There is a ton of lethargy in the computer industry or more like > >monkeys waiting to see what will happen next... > > > > Amancio > > You are thinking backwards. The lethargy is CAUSED by Microsoft's > dominance. There is no competition for Windows because...who > can compete with their marketing power? Who else could > buy WebTV and put the kind of money into it that would be required > to make such a stupid idea profitable? > > Dennis > > > > > >>From The Desk Of dennis : > >> At 02:30 PM 4/8/97 -0400, Peter Dufault wrote: > >> >> > >> >> its not THAT outrageous...if you think those guys can't be bought (they > >> >> already > >> >> have been, in fact), then you're head is in the sand....stranger things > >> have > >> >> happened..... > >> > > >> >Anyone wanting to whip up their paranoia a level should get the latest > >> >issue of Upside. I don't think it is an April fool's issue. Some high > >> >points I remember include: > >> > > >> >Microsoft R&D $2e9 this year "and we're going to triple it" (they > >> >don't say how fast though); > >> > > >> >Microsoft hardware group revenues $3e6 per employee; > >> > > >> >Microsoft presenting 20% of the papers at SIGGRAPH; > >> > > >> >etc etc. > >> > > >> >Especially entertaining is the discussion of the Windows CE platform, > >> >which one article claims is a proprietary hardware and software > >> >product with the manufacturers competing to be low cost contract > >> >hardware manufacturers for Microsoft. > >> > >> I wonder how long its going to take for the courts to bone up on this and > >> understand what Microsoft has become. The WebTV acquisition is very > >> troubing to me, as well as the fact that they also announced that the will > >> be selling "diskless workstations". Pretty soon they will make everyone > >> buy hardware from them also...it seems fairly clear that thats the > direction > >> they are taking. > >> > >> Dennis > > > > > > > >