From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat May 4 01:40:25 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2F915A0DB2 for ; Sat, 4 May 2019 01:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: from www.zefox.net (www.zefox.net [50.1.20.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "www.zefox.org", Issuer "www.zefox.org" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F6AE6A679; Sat, 4 May 2019 01:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: from www.zefox.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.zefox.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id x441dY6J028212 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 3 May 2019 18:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd@www.zefox.net) Received: (from fbsd@localhost) by www.zefox.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id x441dYjJ028211; Fri, 3 May 2019 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsd) Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 18:39:34 -0700 From: bob prohaska To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Glen Barber , Enji Cooper , Alan Somers , David Boyd , FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Re: New vm-image size is much smaller than previos Message-ID: <20190504013934.GA26932@www.zefox.net> References: <20190503171517.GE19873@FreeBSD.org> <201905031806.x43I6FXf093604@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201905031806.x43I6FXf093604@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F6AE6A679 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; WWW_DOT_DOMAIN(0.50)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.11)[ip: (0.43), ipnet: 50.1.16.0/20(0.22), asn: 7065(-0.03), country: US(-0.06)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zefox.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: www.zefox.net]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.88)[0.880,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.18)[-0.176,0]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.79)[0.786,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7065, ipnet:50.1.16.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_WWW(0.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 May 2019 01:40:25 -0000 On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 11:06:15AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > -- Start of PGP signed section. > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 10:12:58AM -0700, Enji Cooper wrote: > > > > > > > On May 3, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Alan Somers wrote: > > > > > > > > See r346959. Before first boot, you should expand the image up to > > > > whatever size you want. growfs(8) will automatically expand the file > > > > system. > > > > -Alan > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:32 AM David Boyd wrote: > > > >> > > > >> The vm-image for 13.0-CURRENT > > > >> > > > >> FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20190503-r347033.vmdk > > > >> > > > >> is only 4.0 GB in size. Previous images were about 31.0 GB. > > > >> > > > >> This smaller image doesn't leave much room to add packages and other > > > >> customizations. > > > > > > This probably deserves a release note. > > > > It will certainly be mentioned in the 11.3 release notes. > > And those running head snapshots without reading commit messages > are likely to have lots of foot shooting. > > > Glen > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org At the risk of being branded a wishful thinker, a firstboot script that asked the user for some configuration information would be a great help to both new and experienced foot-shooters. I'm thinking of Raspberry Pi, but perhaps it applies to non-embedded platforms also. The original FreeBSD install program (the one by Jordan Hubbard) did a very serviceable job. Could it (the user interface) be resurrected? Thanks for reading, bob prohaska