From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Apr 24 5:19:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts9.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7CF37B405 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 05:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shall.anarcat.dyndns.org ([65.94.187.200]) by tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020424121755.DQBK28365.tomts9-srv.bellnexxia.net@shall.anarcat.dyndns.org>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:17:55 -0400 Received: from lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org (lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org [192.168.0.4]) by shall.anarcat.dyndns.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08F7752; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:16:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:16:51 -0400 From: The Anarcat To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [resend] packaging base (was: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory) Message-ID: <20020424121651.GA317@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Mike Meyer , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20020424030937.GC323@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org> <15558.12150.814150.317904@guru.mired.org> <20020424050711.GC973@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org> <15558.16369.602750.415167@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SUOF0GtieIMvvwua" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <15558.16369.602750.415167@guru.mired.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed Apr 24, 2002 at 12:17:37AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > In <20020424050711.GC973@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org>, The Anarcat typed: > > On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 11:07:18PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > In <20020424030937.GC323@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org>, The Anarcat typed: > > > > The main issues I see about packaging the base system is [1] how pl= ists > > > > are to be handled and [2] how configurations files are to be handle= d. > > > You missed the biggie: [3] how the base system install is handled. > > The same way the rest of the system is. [3] =3D [1] + [2] >=20 > No, it isn't. Ports don't have the requirement to fit on a single > floppy. The more we move towards packaging the whole system, the more this distinction will be blurred, hence [3] =3D [1] + [2]. > > Also, I don't think it would be very complex to cat many files into a > > single one on the filesystem prior to installing a package. Very > > simple, I think. >=20 > That one's not the problem. The problem is catting together many > *floppies* to get a package prior to actually installing it. That's > not quite so simple. I could see a simple shell script deal with that. I think it is quite simple. =20 > > But guess what: libh won't get through if it's not a drop-in > > replacement for sysinstall. >=20 > What makes you say that? FUD. Documentation is written for sysinstall and everyone's used to it. > > In other words, libh doesn't know about the ports collection or > > /usr/src yet, and I don't think it's going to change soon. >=20 > Yes, but it will change eventually.=20 I hope not. I prefer keeping the package management system seperate from the source management system. > And yes, it's going to require rewriting the package format to deal > with the issues needed for working on the base system. I don't think you have proved that point. > Hopefully, it will also be compatible with the openpackages project. Hopefully. A. --=20 =46rom the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of Big Brother, from the age of doublethink - greetings! --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjzGojIACgkQttcWHAnWiGeAdQCfbt+9vX+ElnUy/afT43IUfaC0 Id4An1NzutdNPlGGaXkAEcLmc1KiSMSj =uhHc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SUOF0GtieIMvvwua-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message