From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jan 6 7:14:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E84937B401 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFD243EC2 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 07:14:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (pooh.honeypot.net [10.0.5.128]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h06FDwfW050722 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:13:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.honeypot.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) with ESMTP id h06FDwEw022205 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:13:58 -0600 Received: (from kirk@localhost) by pooh.honeypot.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-8) id h06FDwO4022202; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:13:58 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: Insecure servers References: <867A1824-2136-11D7-88BD-0003930DFD02@prodigy.net> <200301060459.49500.bsdterm@HotPOP.com> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 06 Jan 2003 09:13:58 -0600 In-Reply-To: <200301060459.49500.bsdterm@HotPOP.com> Message-ID: <87of6ub9ah.fsf_-_@pooh.honeypot.net> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2003-01-06T10:59:49Z, "E.S." writes: > Of course, "people who don't do enough to secure their systems deserve > what they get"... > > ...at least, that's what so many in the security field seem to say. > > It's a ridiculous statement, of course -- we don't say, "people who don't > do enough to secure their homes deserve what they get," do we? I'm a little undecided about that. If someone leaves for a weekend but leaves their doors unlocked (because dealing with locks is inconvenient), then yes, they probably get what they deserve. Similarly, if every news channel is carrying a story about a new device that cracks garage-door opener codes, and the only fix is to de-activate your opener, but you neglect to do so... -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message