From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 00:56:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA15370 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 00:56:57 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA15364 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 00:56:52 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA18320; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:57:10 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508130827.RAA18320@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Some serious problems with telnet in FreeBSD 2.0.5 R ... more To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:57:09 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Aug 11, 95 04:36:00 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2685 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: > > The commercial software is called "PCTCP Software" (not TCP Software): It's actually PC/TCP by FTP Software. > - I cannot understand why Linux does not care if Enter == cr+lf or cr > I can change the setting in a emacs session an it has no effect. > But FreeBSD does not work correctly with cr+lf or with cr This is due to broken telnet option negotiation. Everyone else does the 'old' style, FreeBSD does things a little differently, and some telnet's just can't handle it. Read the telnet/telnetd source for hard details, it's a while since I had to look at it. It's arguable as to who's broken here; FreeBSD for being different, or the telnet implementations for not doing the negotiations right. > The WinQVT/Net software seems to work fine. QVT is very nice; I would expect them to have it right. > More problems in Macintosh NCSA Telnet 2.6 and DOS NCSA Telnet > > - in emacs Control-X Control-C seems to be same as Control-X Control-G. > Control-C alone is acting like Control-G: it beeps. > Control-C is showing C-c on the last line of emacs screen, > but why beep? > ** This is not the problem with "setup keys"! I have dissabled > Interrupt Process! ** Check your termcap entries; use 'cat -vet' to check that things are coming through as anticipated. I suspect that NCSA is broken here. > - in pine Control-Z and after fg it returns > to pine with redrawing the screen as it should. > What is the difference between pine (pico) and emacs+vi? > Why pico is making it correctly but emacs is not? Emacs depends _very_ heavily on your termcap being accurate, as it performs lots of screen optimisations. Pico is much more conservative. I suspect that NCSA are broken here as well - does QVT have the same problem? > - I have no problems with NCSA Telnet if I first login to > some other node (Linux, SunOS) and then make telnet into the > FreeBSD node. Only a direct NCSA Telnet into the FreeBSD node > dees not work. This may be related to the location of the raw/cooked handling. I can't offer any advice here 8( > One more question: Whereis terminfo? Man terminfo is saying > /usr/lib/terminfo but that is not correct. Is there terminfo in FreBSD? Try 'locate terminfo' > Seppo -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 01:21:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA15935 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 01:21:26 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA15929 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 01:21:23 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA18352; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:21:40 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508130851.SAA18352@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Free BSD problems and questions To: achar@topic.mv.us.adobe.com (Alan Char) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:21:39 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <9508111201.ZM1700@topic> from "Alan Char" at Aug 11, 95 12:01:45 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5687 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Alan Char stands accused of saying: > Pentium with an Intel Zappa board, with I believe > the Triton chip set (I'll have to check the pci > driver messages again.) I can't help you with the major problem; I'm sure one or more of the motherboard experts will... > Smaller issues, in no particular order: > > When I installed Free BSD, I asked it to install BootEasy, but > apparently it installed it on the second disk, since when I boot, > it still boots DOS. To boot Free BSD, I have to insert the > Free BSD boot floppy and type sd(1,a)/kernel. In this light, > I have these questions: > > Can I install BootEasy on my DOS disk, and will > it work if I do? In particular, I'm wondering if > it will it work with Windows 95, who seems to be > doing weird boot things. Yes, you can install it on the first disk. I've read reports that it works OK with Win95, but I can't speak from firsthand experience. > Is there a way I can change the default device on > the boot floppy? I wouldn't mind having to stick in > the floppy to boot Free BSD, but it's a pain to have > to sit there while it's booting so I can type the > name of the device. BootEasy is a better way to go. If your root filesystem is on sd1, you're going to have to rebuild the bootblocks anyway. Look in /usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/boot.c, then say 'make intstall' there, and rewrite the boot record with 'disklabel -B sd1' > Also, is there a way to have a default kernel name > so that I can only type the device, without having > to add the /kernel? This seems to be standard > practice on this flavor of UNIX booters, I'm surprised > it's not already built in. For that matter, it would > nice if there were default partition numbers, so that > I could just say sd(1). Again, this seems to be > standard on most UNIX booters. The problem with adding features to the bootloader is size; in some situations, there just isn't room for any more features. Work is apparently underway for an extra bootstrap phase to deal with this problem. > When I booted off floppy, it says to boot using > hd(1,a)/kernel if sd and wd are both installed, or > something like that. Not knowing what it was talking > about, I tried that, and it started to boot Free BSD, > but after going through all the drivers, it wanted to > change root to /dev/sd0a instead of /dev/sd1a, so it > failed. I figured out later that I could boot by > saying sd(1,a)/kernel, but was this earlier problem > a bug or a feature? Maybe the message should change > to be more informative, or less misleading? 'wd' are IDE disks; the message is there to inform about the technique that deals with the non-correspondence between SCSI minor numbers and BIOS disk numbers when booting a SCSI disk in that situation. > When I boot, it says that the PCI driver is using 8 megabutes of > memory! Is this real memory? That seems excessive, even if I do > have 32 Mbytes of memory. I believe that means that 8M of address space is mapped to the PCI bus, not that the driver is using 8M of core. > I was thinking that maybe I could work around this problem by having > the virtual console run in vt220 mode. Do you think this would help? > Is it true that I need to rebuild the kernel to do this? Also, I > wouldn't mind if the consoles had more lines, since I have a fairly > large screen. I've seen documentation that this is possible onthe > pcvt man page, but no explanation really on how. Kernel rebuild? Read the top of /etc/sysconfig with regard to loading fonts, and the manpage for vidcontrol with regard to changing screen size. Note that you can't change to a size that you haven't loaded a font for. > I saw somewhere (release notes?) that the MSDOS file system may > not work with file systems for DOS after 3.3. I have DOS 6.2.2. > Will this be a problem? It seemed to mount okay, but I was a little > wary of doing much. By the way, it was mounted when things started > to disappear in /usr. It would be bad if the MSDOS file system > caused other file systems to scramble a completely different disk! There have been reports that heavy work on an MSDOS filesystem can cause problems. For straightforward back-and-forth transfers, it doesn't seem to be a problem. > Wish list: > > It would be nice when making partitions if I could pass > parameters to newfs. In particular, I like to make the > "root only" percentage zero on all but the root file > system, and I like to increase the blocks-per-inode value. > I think I will probably have to back things up and remake > file systems after installation to be able to do this. You can. say 'newfs', or 'man newfs' > Speaking of System V, it would also be nice if there were > a way to put entries in /etc/fstab that aren't automatically > mounted so I could say "mount /cdrom" when I want to do that. > Okay, so it's a one-line shell script, but still, it would > be nice. I have lots of these one-line shell scripts, like > mountcd, mountfd, mountdos. I'll probably want to make > read-only versions of the last two. And I will have to make > some more if my Iomega Zip drive ever arrives. There's work on this currently in progress. The initial patches submitted had some problems, but I expect these will be ironed out shortly 8) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 01:42:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA16466 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 01:42:34 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA16456 ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 01:42:28 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA18403; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:42:47 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508130912.SAA18403@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk (Gary Palmer) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:42:46 +0930 (CST) Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2010.808247165@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Aug 12, 95 06:06:05 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2243 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer stands accused of saying: > >> There's a problem. I need to use fake ip addresses on the > >> internal side of the FreeBSD box since there's only a single valid ip > >> address allocated. I've thought about using socks on the FreeBSD box so that > >> the fake internal ip addresses are never seen. Basically, I'm not sure this > >> will work with Novix and I'm touting for experiences of solving this > >> setup in general, i.e. connecting Netware networks to the internet across > >> a dial-up connection where you've only had a single ip address allocated. > > >I don't really understand this is a requirement. > > Demon Internet don't allow you to have multiple IP's routed through > the same link unless you buy an entire class C off them (yes, I know > that they are free, but you have to pay DIS to route it to you, etc, > etc), and I seem to remember that they only do Class C rental as part > of their leased line package now, although I could be mistaken (I > haven't looked at their price structure for a while now). > > So either the FreeBSD box would have to do address re-writing, or > you're up a gum tree without a paddle (or you're back to the origional > problem with netware-over-modem). Nope. Run winsock stacks doing native IP over ethernet alongside the IPX/whatever stack, put the FreeBSD box on the ethernet with the serial link out; put all of the internal systems on a fake IP net, disable routing on the FreeBSD box, and run a socks proxy on it. Presto; instant firewall, easy net access. You can run all your mail on the FreeBSD box using pop or imap, and with appropriate clients you can still talk out. You can put the CERN proxy httpd on the FreeBSD system as well, and take advantage of an organisation-wide web cache. This is easy to set up, and a very popular use for FreeBSD systems around here. > Gary -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 06:12:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA22202 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 06:12:22 -0700 Received: from colin.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.174.4.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA22194 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 06:12:14 -0700 Received: from rio by colin.muc.de with UUCP id <41353-3>; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:11:47 +0200 Received: from rio by rio.muc.de with UUPC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 14:51:51 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 22:19:58 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org From: ts@rio.muc.de (Thomas Schreiber) Subject: Re: Mysterious "invalid compressed data"-error Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Thomas Schreiber stands accused of saying: >> >> My effort to install FreeBSD 2.0.5 by the installation program >> from Walnut Creek CD failed due to errors like this: >> >> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated > >Last time I saw this, the conclusion was hardware/driver problems. Which >CD drive are you using? (Is it a Goldstar mitsumi/creative or similar?) It's a Goldstar SCSI Double Speed drive (GCD-R320B) on an Adaptec 2940. It works without any problems as a mounted device. Errors only appear with pkg-manage and (worse) with the installation program > >> Now I tried to install packages from the CD using pkg_manage >> and pkg_add and suddenly this invalid compressed data error >> occurs again. gunzip'ping and untar'ing the files by hand >> works - no corrupted files! > >You can mount the CD as a filesystem and copy things off it OK, or are >you copying them off under DOS? Mounted as a filesystem. See above. > >> Thomas > >-- >]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ >]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ >]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ >]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ >]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 07:14:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA23773 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:14:35 -0700 Received: from ix3.ix.netcom.com (ix3.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA23767 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:14:33 -0700 Received: from ix-jac1-07.ix.netcom.com by ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id HAA09299; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:11:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199508131411.HAA09299@ix3.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: e.knight@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:19:19 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) Subject: mail questions Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for some advice (help) on how to poll for mail. I have a netcruiser account from netcom (it's cheap) On windows 3.1 I get my mail with eudora from username@popd.ix.netcom.com. This is a POP 3 server. I send my mail through smtp.ix.netcom.com How do I pick up my mail with whatever mail tools that are available to me with FreeBSD (pine mh elm whatever)? Is there a pop 3 client for FeeBSD? Since this is not a UUCP account I can't poll for mail. Thanks Ted Knight From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 08:43:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA28390 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:43:32 -0700 Received: from colin.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.174.4.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA28378 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:43:28 -0700 Received: from [193.174.4.22] ([193.174.4.22]) by colin.muc.de with SMTP id <41353-2>; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:43:07 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:45:36 +0200 To: "Charles N. Owens" From: lutz@muc.de (Lutz Albers) Subject: Re: bootpd weirdness Cc: questions list FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Charles N. Owens wrote on 11.8.1995 Re: bootpd weirdness - Hmmmm.... pardon my ignorance, but how do I fix this? Is there a way to - get a list of the current port bindings, so I can find out what it is? /etc/inetd.conf lists all inet controlled services (along with their ports). For non-inetd stuff simply do a ps -aux . ciao lutz --------------------------------------------------------------------- Lutz Albers, Luederitzstr. 14 | And you ? You're no one 81929 - Muenchen, FR Germany | And you ? You're falling phone: +49-89-933 404 | And you ? You're travelling fax: +49-89-929 46 75 | Travelling at the speed of light. email: lutz@muc.de | (Laurie Anderson, Strange Angels) http://www.muc.de/~lutz | Do not take life too seriously, you will never get out of it alive. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 09:57:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA01546 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:57:41 -0700 Received: from cec.wustl.edu (cec.wustl.edu [128.252.158.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA01530 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 09:57:39 -0700 Received: from MATTROSE (dialin-41.wustl.edu) by cec.wustl.edu (5.x/ECL-A1.27) id AA19241; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:57:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:57:17 -0500 Message-Id: <9508131657.AA19241@cec.wustl.edu> X-Sender: mar7@cec.wustl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) From: mar7@cec.wustl.edu (Matt Rosenberg) Subject: Re: mail questions Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I am looking for some advice (help) on how to poll for mail. >I have a netcruiser account from netcom (it's cheap) >On windows 3.1 I get my mail with eudora from username@popd.ix.netcom.com. >This is a POP 3 server. >How do I pick up my mail with whatever mail tools that are available to me >with FreeBSD (pine mh elm whatever)? Is there a pop 3 client for FeeBSD? >Since this is not a UUCP account I can't poll for mail. Install the package qpopper (or any similar software) on the FreeBSD box. This is actually a POP server. You can still use Eudora as a POP client. The only problem I've had is using Eudora as a client for two POP servers at the same time without running it twice as two separate applications side by side. ============================================= Matt Rosenberg Washington University School of Law St. Louis, MO, USA mar7@cec.wustl.edu ; rosenbem@wulaw.wustl.edu http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~mar7/ ============================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 10:07:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA03158 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:07:16 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA02972 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:06:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA04386 ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:03:51 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Matt Rosenberg cc: "Edward F. Knight" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail questions In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:57:17 CDT." <9508131657.AA19241@cec.wustl.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:03:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4384.808333430@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <9508131657.AA19241@cec.wustl.edu>, Matt Rosenberg writes: >>How do I pick up my mail with whatever mail tools that are available to me >>with FreeBSD (pine mh elm whatever)? Is there a pop 3 client for FeeBSD? >>Since this is not a UUCP account I can't poll for mail. >Install the package qpopper (or any similar software) on the FreeBSD box. >This is actually a POP server. You can still use Eudora as a POP client. >The only problem I've had is using Eudora as a client for two POP servers at >the same time without running it twice as two separate applications side by >side. I think the person was looking for a POP client instead of a FreeBSD POP server... AFAIK MH can be used to handle POP downloads, but we are currently looking into some problems with MH. Any other mailers which handle POP? Pine? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 10:19:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA05581 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:19:14 -0700 Received: from ix5.ix.netcom.com (ix5.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA05575 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:19:13 -0700 Received: from ix-jac1-02.ix.netcom.com by ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id KAA07833; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:16:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199508131716.KAA07833@ix5.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: e.knight@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:23:54 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: e.knight@ix.netcom.com (Edward F. Knight) Subject: Re: mail questions Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>I am looking for some advice (help) on how to poll for mail. > >>I have a netcruiser account from netcom (it's cheap) >>On windows 3.1 I get my mail with eudora from username@popd.ix.netcom.com. >>This is a POP 3 server. > >>How do I pick up my mail with whatever mail tools that are available to me >>with FreeBSD (pine mh elm whatever)? Is there a pop 3 client for FeeBSD? >>Since this is not a UUCP account I can't poll for mail. > >Install the package qpopper (or any similar software) on the FreeBSD box. >This is actually a POP server. You can still use Eudora as a POP client. >The only problem I've had is using Eudora as a client for two POP servers at >the same time without running it twice as two separate applications side by >side. >============================================= >Matt Rosenberg >Washington University School of Law >St. Louis, MO, USA > >mar7@cec.wustl.edu ; rosenbem@wulaw.wustl.edu >http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~mar7/ >============================================= > > Matt, You've missed my whole querry. I want to use Freebsd to pick up my mail from the pop3 server at netcom. I was only stating that when using windows 3.1 I use eudora to pick up my mail. I do not have a registered domain for my FreeBSD machine. However, I do have very in-expensive internet account with netcom which hold mail in a pop3 server. I am using pine to send mail and it is configured to give my correct email address of e.knight@ix.netcom.com. What I do not have is the ability to pick up mail being held in my pop3 account at popd.ix.netcom.com I have one machine which runs either Freebsd or dos/Windows. Ted Knight From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 10:33:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA07500 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:33:09 -0700 Received: from pen1.pen.k12.va.us (pen1.pen.k12.va.us [141.104.22.202]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA07485 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 10:33:07 -0700 Received: by pen1.pen.k12.va.us (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA62371; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:33:01 -0400 From: "Nancy H. Hodder" Message-Id: <199508131733.NAA62371@pen1.pen.k12.va.us> Subject: quit To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 13:33:01 EDT X-Mailer: PENELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I need to quit this mailing list, how do i. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 12:17:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA29250 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 12:17:17 -0700 Received: from oasis.txdirect.net (oasis.txdirect.net [204.57.120.34]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA29229 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 12:17:00 -0700 Received: (from rsnow@localhost) by oasis.txdirect.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA18345; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:16:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:16:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@oasis To: "Edward F. Knight" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mail questions In-Reply-To: <199508131716.KAA07833@ix5.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Edward F. Knight wrote: > >>I am looking for some advice (help) on how to poll for mail. > > > >>I have a netcruiser account from netcom (it's cheap) > >>On windows 3.1 I get my mail with eudora from username@popd.ix.netcom.com. > >>This is a POP 3 server. > > > >>How do I pick up my mail with whatever mail tools that are available to me > >>with FreeBSD (pine mh elm whatever)? Is there a pop 3 client for FeeBSD? > >>Since this is not a UUCP account I can't poll for mail. get popclient from /linux/sunsite/system/mail (or there abouts) on freebsd.cdrom.com. It compiled without a hitch on my system and I have it run from cron every hour the retrieve my mail. Here is the command line I use: /usr/local/bin/popclient -3 -u user -p password -o /var/mail/user pophost where: user is your user name password is your password pophost is the host where you want to get your mail from This will append your new incoming mail to your inbox. --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 13:00:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA01843 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:00:47 -0700 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (diamond.sierra.net [204.94.39.235]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA01837 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:00:45 -0700 Received: from martis-d226.sierra.net by diamond.sierra.net with SMTP id AA11270 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:00:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199508132000.AA11270@diamond.sierra.net> From: "Jim Howard" To: Faried Nawaz , freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:31:10 -0800 Subject: Re: gnumalloc Reply-To: jiho@sierra.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Faried Nawaz wants to know: > how did you compile things in /bin and /sbin with shared libraries? > is your /usr/lib in the same partition as / ? or did you do something > with ldconfig and ld.so? i'm curious because i've never tried it, but > wanted to... Yes, everything is in the same partition. My notes are terrible on this, so bear with me, but this is basically how I went about it: I copied the source trees for /bin and /sbin, in bulk, off the CD-ROM where they are present as: /filesys/usr/src/ At the top of each there is a file, Makefile.inc, which has these two lines: BINDIR?= NOSHARED?= YES I changed the BINDIRs to bogus temporary destinations, so the installs wouldn't overwrite the existing directories. And of course, I changed NOSHARED to NO. I think I patched those lines into the respective Makefile at the top of each tree, on the assumption that this was done automatically by a script I would not be executing. The compile/install cycles went off without a hitch, except that afterwards I think I had to create some symbolic links in the new directories by hand. I then moved the old directories out and the new ones in, rebooted and got blown away, because not only did everything work fine, I could tell no difference in how long it took to bring up the command line. (If you actually timed some scripts you'd probably see a substantial performance loss, though, so servers might complain.) In removing the old directories, there were a number of files that refused to remove (especially init). I think I had to run the chflags command on those files to change their flags, before I could get rid of them and their directories. Faried then nudges me gently with the following: > I'm actually interested in rebuilding just about everything to > use GNU malloc(). > > how about replacing the malloc in libc with it? thanks to shared > libraries, once you install the libc with the gnu malloc, everything > dynamically linked with libc will use it. Good point, which is probably why it hadn't occured to me yet. That's also why replacing /bin and /sbin works transparently, come to think of it. And it means you don't have to rebuild X anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 13:35:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA02795 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:35:07 -0700 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (diamond.sierra.net [204.94.39.235]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA02789 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:35:04 -0700 Received: from martis-d220.sierra.net by diamond.sierra.net with SMTP id AA12800 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 13 Aug 1995 13:34:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199508132034.AA12800@diamond.sierra.net> From: "Jim Howard" To: Faried Nawaz , freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 12:05:37 -0800 Subject: Re: gnumalloc Reply-To: jiho@sierra.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > how did you compile things in /bin and /sbin with shared libraries? is > your /usr/lib in the same partition as / ? or did you do something with > ldconfig and ld.so? i'm curious because i've never tried it, but wanted > to... Gee, clever me, it just sank in on me what the point about partitions was. I installed everything on one partation, because I've only got one drive, and that made sense to me. If the /usr tree were on a separate partition you'd have an impossible time, because init (and several other programs) are running well before a separate /usr partition gets mounted! It's an issue I never faced. I suppose servers ALWAYS have /usr on a separate partition, which makes another reason (in addition to performance) why shared libraries for /bin and /sbin MIGHT not be a good idea for servers. This is yet another example of how in the U*IX world, the desktop user's logic isn't always compatible with the site administrator's logic. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 14:09:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA04148 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:09:39 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04114 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:09:26 -0700 Received: from kudu.ru.ac.za (kudu.ru.ac.za [146.231.128.5]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id OAA26117 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:08:06 -0700 Received: from aau.UUCP by kudu.ru.ac.za with UUCP (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shkBF-000CPSC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:02 EET Message-Id: Received: from aau by aau.org (UUPC/extended 1.12k) with UUCP for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:23:44 -0400 From: AAU System Operator To: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:23:43 GMT Subject: Configuring Network Interface Card (EZ-2000) on FreeBSD...help!! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello Friends @ FreeBSD: It's me again! As you know, you solved my password problem and here am I again with more trouble! We have a 2-server system down here (one FreeBSD the other Novell NetWare 3.12). All clients on the ethernet LAN are able to attach to and log into the Novell server and use and run any applications without problem. Now, we installed Mercury SMTP on top of the Novell, and this also works fine--any mail sent from a client is properly recognized by Mercury and local ones are successfully delivered locally, but when Mercury tries to transmit non-local mail to the Unix box, it reports: "Error connecting to 192.42.99.2 (the FreeBSD box's assigned IP address). failed" and is just unable to link to the FreeBSD box. It might interest you to also note that neither of these servers is able to PING the other. However, as expected, each of these servers is able to ping itself. Now, in trying to isolate the problem we did the following: we installed a netware client on the DOS partition of the FreeBSD box and have been able to attach and log into the Novell box without problem. This assured us that, at least, the ethernet card is in good shape (ie. it works), and that it is not a hardware connectivity problem. The physical link looks OK. So, more and more, our analysis is leading us to think that we have not properly configured FreeBSD to recognize the network interface card that we are using and, the truth infact is that, we don't really know where and _how_ in FreeBSD to do it! Here are some statistics about our setup and some messages during booting: - EZ-2000 is the NIC we're using - But during FreeBSD boot, a line says something like "NE2000 (16- bit) card..." is what the kernel has been configured to use. - "ed1: device timeout" displays in BOLD during/after starting the daemons - when after booting, we try to ping the novell box, this same "ed1: device timeout" message displays 3 times as follows: Aug 13 17:04:19 aau /kernel: ed1: device timeout .... .... before the system continually reporting "Host is down: ..." when in actual fact it (ie. the Novell server) isn't. A ping from the Novell server also shows that no data is received from the FreeBSD box. In otherwords, it is not recognizing or seeing the FreeBSD box. We are assured, however, that TCP/IP has been properly set up on the Novell box--mercury doesn't complain about inet_addr and other such stuff. Following are some configuration info. on our FreeBSD server: /etc/hosts ========== 127.0.0.1 localhost aau aau.org 192.42.99.2 aau aau.org # (the FreeBSD box) 192.42.99.1 campus_1 campus_1.aau.org # (the Novell box) /etc/sysconfig ============== hostname=aau.org network_interfaces="lo0 ed1" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" ifconfig_ed1="inet 192.42.99.2 netmask 0xffffff00" Well, dear friends, here we are again for another problem. Please help! Sincerely, John & Kofi (a sweet friend!) -- John Bart-Plange Email: sysop@aau.org Network System Operator Tel.: (233-21) 774495 Association of African Universities Fax.: (233-21) 774821 P.O. Box 5744, Accra-North, GHANA Tlx.: 2284 ADUA GH From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 14:17:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA04775 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:17:45 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA04768 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:17:40 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA08225; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:03:10 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id RAA05026; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:17:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:17:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Jim Howard cc: Faried Nawaz , freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gnumalloc In-Reply-To: <199508132034.AA12800@diamond.sierra.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Jim Howard wrote: > > how did you compile things in /bin and /sbin with shared libraries? is > > your /usr/lib in the same partition as / ? or did you do something with > > ldconfig and ld.so? i'm curious because i've never tried it, but wanted > > to... > > Gee, clever me, it just sank in on me what the point about partitions > was. I installed everything on one partation, because I've only got > one drive, and that made sense to me. If the /usr tree were on a > separate partition you'd have an impossible time, because init (and > several other programs) are running well before a separate /usr > partition gets mounted! It's an issue I never faced. > > I suppose servers ALWAYS have /usr on a separate partition, which > makes another reason (in addition to performance) why shared > libraries for /bin and /sbin MIGHT not be a good idea for servers. > > This is yet another example of how in the U*IX world, the desktop > user's logic isn't always compatible with the site administrator's > logic. > I don't think you have the whole story, and I believe you might possibly be wrong about this administrator versus user mindset. One of the big reasons why you want stuff in the root partition to be statically linked is so that, in the situation where you've blown away something drastic in /usr, and can't mount it (and all of your shared libs), the tools that exist to allow you to (possibly) fix this still work. If everything is made dynamically linked, and you lose your libs, you're dead. If fact, I don't think you can even update your libs easily, because when you move them, every tool you have will die. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 15:03:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA07403 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:03:45 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA07396 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:03:43 -0700 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA20224 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:03:38 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id SAA04767; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:03:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:03:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ppp again Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, I have ppp working maually, and partially automatic. I can tell it to dial umsite, and it does it well. I just need a little more info. First, the password. I have to login anyways, to the annex, before I can issue ppp, so I think the system has my username/password. Do I need to put something in ppp.secret, and why? Second, I can set the address of the tun0 device with that "set iffaddr 0 0 HISADDR" command, but I want to set the default route to HISADDR also, don't I? Note that I have a private ethernet between my two machines. I run named on one of them, the one that does the ppp dialing, and things work fine if I enter two commands (as root) from shell: route delete default route add default (I patch in the new tun0 address here). I tried to add "delete default" and "add default HISADDR" in the linkup file, but I got error messages indicating it wanted "delete dest gateway" and "add dest mask gateway". How do I do what I want? By the way, doing it all manually gives me perfect net visibility on both machines, and that's great, especially if I can get it to work automatically. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 15:18:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA08467 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:18:01 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA08457 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:17:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA06169 ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:17:05 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ppp again In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:03:37 EDT." Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:17:04 +0100 Message-ID: <6167.808352224@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message , Chuck R obey writes: >First, the password. I have to login anyways, to the annex, before I can >issue ppp, so I think the system has my username/password. Do I need to >put something in ppp.secret, and why? ppp.secret is for CHAP authentication I think. Unless you are using CHAP (or are controlling who gets access to the control port (3000)) you don't really need a ppp.secret. >I tried to add "delete default" and "add default HISADDR" in the linkup >file, but I got error messages indicating it wanted "delete dest gateway" >and "add dest mask gateway". How do I do what I want? The correct thing to do for automatic operation is: add 0 Even tho I may not connect to 158.152.1.194, I add a route to it the entry for my auto-dialout section. Then in /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup I have MYADDR: delete ALL add 0 0 HISADDR This should work. Unless you have gateways off your local ether subnet, that delete ALL shouldn't affect your ethernet. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 15:20:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA08669 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:20:26 -0700 Received: from unix10.pressimage.fr (unix10.pressimage.fr [194.2.222.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA08648 ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:20:23 -0700 Received: from [194.2.222.120] (jc.pressimage.fr [194.2.222.120]) by unix10.pressimage.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA25401; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:20:00 +0200 X-Sender: jc@mail.pressimage.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-NCC-RegID: fr.pressimage Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:20:00 +0200 To: AAU System Operator From: jcaron@pressimage.net (Jacques Caron) Subject: Re: Configuring Network Interface Card (EZ-2000) on FreeBSD...help!! Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 22:23 13/08/95, AAU System Operator wrote: [blah blah Ethernet won't work] >Here are some statistics about our setup and some messages during booting: > >- EZ-2000 is the NIC we're using > >- But during FreeBSD boot, a line says something like "NE2000 (16- > bit) card..." is what the kernel has been configured to use. > >- "ed1: device timeout" displays in BOLD during/after starting the > daemons OK. Boot under DOS, and run the utility provided with the NIC, and do a "view settings" or whatever. Check the IRQ. Oh, is it 3? Set it to 5. Reboot FreeBSD. Ohhhh it works. Question for the FreeBSD team... it is said somewhere that the soft config was taken out from the driver because there where conflicts in some cases... But could the driver not at least check that the settings on the board match those in the kernel, and if they don't, say so [and eventually say what to do]? Jacques. +-------------------------+------------------------+ |Jacques Caron | Pressimage Telematique | |jcaron@pressimage.net | 5/7 rue Raspail | |Tel: +33 (1) 49 88 63 56 | 93108 Montreuil Cedex | |Fax: +33 (1) 49 88 63 64 | France | +-------------------------+------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 15:24:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA08952 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:24:06 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA08944 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:24:04 -0700 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA20308; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:24:01 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id SAA04860; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:24:01 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:24:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Gary Palmer cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ppp again In-Reply-To: <6167.808352224@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Gary Palmer wrote: > In message , Chuck R > obey writes: > >First, the password. I have to login anyways, to the annex, before I can > >issue ppp, so I think the system has my username/password. Do I need to > >put something in ppp.secret, and why? > > ppp.secret is for CHAP authentication I think. Unless you are using > CHAP (or are controlling who gets access to the control port (3000)) > you don't really need a ppp.secret. > > >I tried to add "delete default" and "add default HISADDR" in the linkup > >file, but I got error messages indicating it wanted "delete dest gateway" > >and "add dest mask gateway". How do I do what I want? > > The correct thing to do for automatic operation is: > > add 0 > > Even tho I may not connect to 158.152.1.194, I add a route to it the > entry for my auto-dialout section. Then in /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup I have > > MYADDR: > delete ALL > add 0 0 HISADDR > > This should work. Unless you have gateways off your local ether > subnet, that delete ALL shouldn't affect your ethernet. I'm probably showing ignorance here, but if I don't set the default to the tun0 port, how will stuff know that's the path to the world? Stuff like my named, and other network active stuff? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 15:31:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA09470 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:31:45 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA09455 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 15:31:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA06273 ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:30:38 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ppp again In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:24:01 EDT." Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:30:37 +0100 Message-ID: <6271.808353037@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message , Chuck R obey writes: >I'm probably showing ignorance here, but if I don't set the default to >the tun0 port, how will stuff know that's the path to the world? Stuff >like my named, and other network active stuff? add 0 0 HISADDR *DOES* set the default route. It's just that iijppp doesn't ever use the word `default' for any of it's route config stuff and prefers to use the number `0' for such work. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 16:00:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA10429 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:00:58 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA10423 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:00:55 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id SAA09297; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:45:50 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id TAA06233; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:00:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Gary Palmer cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ppp again In-Reply-To: <6271.808353037@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Gary Palmer wrote: > In message , Chuck R > obey writes: > >I'm probably showing ignorance here, but if I don't set the default to > >the tun0 port, how will stuff know that's the path to the world? Stuff > >like my named, and other network active stuff? > > add 0 0 HISADDR *DOES* set the default route. It's just that iijppp > doesn't ever use the word `default' for any of it's route config stuff > and prefers to use the number `0' for such work. Well, at least on my machine here running 2.0.5-snap-0622, it doesn't. I had to kill the nslookup (which hung) and then add the route default, then nslookup did work. All the 'delete all' did was wipe out the entry for my ed0, which I don't yet know how to get back. It didn't re-establish a default entry. You want to see a netstat -rn ? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 16:11:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA11087 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:11:29 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA11070 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 16:11:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA06478 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:10:06 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ppp again In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:00:51 EDT." Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:10:05 +0100 Message-ID: <6476.808355405@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message , Chuck R obey writes: >Well, at least on my machine here running 2.0.5-snap-0622, it doesn't. I >had to kill the nslookup (which hung) and then add the route default, >then nslookup did work. All the 'delete all' did was wipe out the entry >for my ed0, which I don't yet know how to get back. It didn't >re-establish a default entry. You want to see a netstat -rn ? That's weird. Works fine on mine machine here, and I've yet to delete the ed0 entry by this method :-( Sorry. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 17:31:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA14755 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:31:50 -0700 Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA14749 ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:31:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA02215; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:31:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199508140031.RAA02215@precipice.shockwave.com> To: "Greg Rowe" cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: S/key and WU-FTPD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 1995 14:03:27 CDT." <9508101403.ZM12038@nevis.oss.uswest.net> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:31:04 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg, I've found and fixed the problem with wu-ftpd and S/key. All you need to do is edit src/Makefile (or files/Makefile.fb2) and add " -lmd" after "-lskey" in that file and rebuild. I've also fixed the ports distribution, and I'd suggest simply re-supping and rebuilding as your simplest alternative. Regards, Paul p.s. sorry for the delay From: "Greg Rowe" Subject: S/key and WU-FTPD S/Key works fine, WU-FTPD works fine. Just not together...I get the following >>: 220 kits FTP server (Version wu-2.4(1) Thu Aug 10 10:37:20 CDT 1995) ready. Name (kits:root): greg2 331 s/key 93 fi66239 Password: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection Login failed. S/key does work correctly with the "stock" FreeBSD FTPD. I'm using 2.0.5 Release with the CERT patches for S/key and WU-FTPD from the CD/ROM. Any idea >>s would be appreciated. -- Greg Rowe | US West - Interact Services | INTERNET greg@uswest.net 111 Washington Ave. South | Fax: (612) 672-8537 Minneapolis, MN USA 55401 | Voice: (612) 672-8535 To err is human, to really foul up requires the root password. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 18:01:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA16684 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:01:20 -0700 Received: from ix2.ix.netcom.com (ix2.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16676 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:01:17 -0700 Received: from abfabinc.ix.netcom.com by ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA14648; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 17:58:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:06:06 +0000 () From: "e.knight" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: iijppp ondemand Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-377042049-808347885=:172" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-377042049-808347885=:172 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had iijppp running this after noon just fine. when I would ping a host ppp would dial out and everything worked fine when i started pine the ppp would dial out. I rebooted the machine and later used ping and got the error message unknown host. I killed the ppp -auto ondemand process started ppp netcom issued the command dial. It went throught the dial procedure and I pinged cdrom.com just fine. I then took ijppp down and reinvoked the ppp -auto ondemand the daemon seems to have started. However when I ping cdrom.com it just hangs. Same with pine. I have included my ppp.conf and ppp.linkup files. Can anyone tell what going on or not going on here Thanks Ted Knight e.knight@ix.netcom.com --0-377042049-808347885=:172 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="ppp1.out" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: IyB0aGlzIGlzIHRoZSBwcHAuY29uZiAgZmlsZQ0KZGVmYXVsdDoNCiBzZXQg ZGV2aWNlIC9kZXYvY3VhYTENCiBzZXQgc3BlZWQgMTE1MjAwDQogc2V0IGRp YWwgIkFCT1JUIEJVU1kgQUJPUlQgTk9cXHNDQVJSSUVSIFRJTUVPVVQgNSBc IlwiIEFURTFRMCBPSy1BVC1PSyBcXGRBVERUXFxUIFRJTUVPVVQgNDAgQ09O TkVDVCINCiMNCiMNCm5ldGNvbToNCiBzZXQgcGhvbmUgKjcwLDEyMzQ1NjcN CiBzZXQgbG9naW4gIlRJTUVPVVQgNSBsb2dpbjotXFxyLWxvZ2luOiAjZS5r bmlnaHQgd29yZDogeHh4eHh4eCINCiBzZXQgdGltZW91dCAwDQogc2V0IGlm YWRkciAwIDANCiBhZGQgMCAwIEhJU0FERFINCiMNCiMNCm9uZGVtYW5kOg0K IHNldCBwaG9uZSAqNzAsMTIzNDU2Nw0KIHNldCBsb2dpbiAiVElNRU9VVCA1 IGxvZ2luOi1cXHItbG9naW46ICNlLmtuaWdodCB3b3JkOiB4eHh4eHh4Ig0K IHNldCB0aW1lb3V0IDYwDQogc2V0IGlmYWRkciAwIDE2My43OS42Ny4yLzAN CiBhZGQgMCAwIDE2My43OS42Ny4yIA0KIw0KIyB0aGlzIGlzIHRoZSBwcHAu bGlua3VwIGZpbGUNCm9uZGVtYW5kOg0KIGRlbGV0ZSBBTEwNCiBhZGQgMCAw IEhJU0FERFINCiMNCiMgT3RoZXJ3aWRlLCBzaW1wbHkgYWRkIHBlZXIgYXMg ZGVmYXVsdCBnYXRld2F5Lg0KIw0KTVlBRERSOg0KIGFkZCAwIDAgSElTQURE Ug0K --0-377042049-808347885=:172-- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 18:45:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA19216 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:45:09 -0700 Received: from werple.mira.net.au (werple.mira.net.au [203.9.190.18]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA19204 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 18:45:05 -0700 Received: from creek (darren@dialup-69.werple.mira.net.au [203.9.191.69]) by werple.mira.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA29941 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:44:59 +1000 Message-Id: <199508140144.LAA29941@werple.mira.net.au> Date: Fri, 08 Jul 94 00:21:01 1000 From: Darren Armstrong Organization: Redflex Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; Linux 1.2.1 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re Rarp X-URL: file:/fujitsu/home/darren/notes.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for 4.2BSD source as I believe it has rarp implementation. I cannot find the source on the net, can you help me ? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 21:32:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA27049 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:32:31 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA27043 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:32:30 -0700 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id AAA13320 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:15:45 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id AAA08214; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:32:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:32:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ppp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've done a great deal more pokeing at ppp, now I can get somewhat more specific in my questions. I'm going to lay out what I think it oughta do, and if any little bit is wrong, please let me know, and go ahead and be picky. Right now, I have a 2 machine network, and machine n3lxx is the one I've picked to do the ppp dialing (I flipped a coin, it doesn't matter). The netstat -rn right after boot shows a default route from n3lxx to the other machine, Journey2. That's ok, without ppp, I want any network traffic not destined for my X server here to go there. I run named on n3lxx, but not on journey2, I don't think I need 2 of them running. At this point, when ppp comes up, I want it to do two things: set the net address of tun0 to the number the U of M has sent me, and make a default route out that way. I will hand change my old default route to journey2 so that its specifically handling n3lxx -> journey2 traffic. I tell ppp to do a 'set ifaddr 0 0 HISADDR', and that successfully sets the new tun0 address. For some reason, it also makes a new route from the address U of M has given my machine to 127.0.0.0, but I don't think that'll hurt any. I do that in the ppp.linkup file. In that same file, I tell ppp to do a 'add default 0 HISADDR'. This gets totally ignored. I try manually killing the default (via su and the route command) and the file command 'add default 0 HISADDR' still fails. I can, however, tell ppp to do that manually, and that works, I'm in business, albeit it won't work automatically, because I have to manually enter that default info. On disconnect, I want ppp to put things back the way they were. It does delete for me three of the four things it's added: it deletes the reference making tun0 the address that U of M has given me, and it deletes the route from that address to the U of M address, and the default route. What it leaves me is the route from the address U of M assigned me to 127.0.0.0. If I call again, and manually set the default to get myself in operation, I end up with two new routes to 127.0.0.0. This seems endlessly repeatable. I'm looking for two things. I can tell my machine not to put the default route it, and instead to do one specifically from n3lxx to journey2, but I need it to put the default route up automatically, and I need it to delete the route going to 127.0.0.0. OK, I must have committed some gross errors here, I'm likely asking for things I don't really need. Can anyone tell me where, or give me likely hints? Unlikely hints? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 22:19:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA29280 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:19:03 -0700 Received: from scratchy.itsnet.com (scratchy.itsnet.com [204.118.1.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA29274 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:19:02 -0700 Received: from mail.itsnet.com by scratchy.itsnet.com; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:31:42 -0600 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:31:42 -0600 Message-Id: <199508140531.XAA21025@scratchy.itsnet.com> X-Sender: blair@itsnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Subject: FreeBSD??? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am running on FreeBSD 2.0.5 and since I have installed it on one of my servers for a "test drive", I haven't been able to get anything to work with it. I have tried compiling the source for NCSA's httpd, errors with makefile. I've tried compiling perl 5, errors with makefile. I can't get sendmail to work at all. Any suggestions? Blair /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ blair schmittel CyberNaut blair@itsnet.com Internet Access Provided by CyberNaut From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Aug 13 22:53:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA00654 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:53:46 -0700 Received: from scratchy.itsnet.com (scratchy.itsnet.com [204.118.1.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA00647 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 22:53:44 -0700 Received: from mail.itsnet.com by scratchy.itsnet.com; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:06:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:06:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199508140606.AAA21174@scratchy.itsnet.com> X-Sender: blair@itsnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Steve Passe From: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Subject: Re: FreeBSD??? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >you need to give specific information as to EXACTLY what your >problems were b4 you can expect anyone to be able to help you. > >--- >Steve Passe >smp@teal.csn.org > This is as specific as it gets: I'm running on a i486DX/2 66 540mb hdd, 8 meg ram. With sendmail which is running in the background, it will send mail out of the system through a shell account, but will no let any remote site connect to the server. The server refuses the connection. I can not get X-Windows to run either, I'm using X11R6. This is what it says: Failure: not found Bad: not found Cannot: not found ld.so: not found X: 7: Syntax error: ")" unexpected TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 2 giving up. ./xinit: Interrupted system call (errno 4): unable to connect to X server Blair PS How do you give a user a false shell, in the master.passwd file I tried typing in the shell of /bin/false (I was told this) but it didn't work. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ blair schmittel CyberNaut blair@itsnet.com Internet Access Provided by CyberNaut From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 00:29:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA02982 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:29:31 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA02976 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:29:24 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA20947; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:29:01 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508140759.RAA20947@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD??? To: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:29:00 +0930 (CST) Cc: smp@teal.csn.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508140606.AAA21174@scratchy.itsnet.com> from "Blair Schmittel" at Aug 14, 95 00:06:16 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2192 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Blair Schmittel stands accused of saying: > > >you need to give specific information as to EXACTLY what your > >problems were b4 you can expect anyone to be able to help you. > > > >--- > >Steve Passe > >smp@teal.csn.org > > > This is as specific as it gets: I'm running on a i486DX/2 66 540mb hdd, 8 > meg ram. That's fair enough, but the rest of the info isn't too good yet; let's see what we can work out though... > With sendmail which is running in the background, it will send mail out of > the system through a shell account, but will no let any remote site connect > to the server. The server refuses the connection. Hmm. Sendmail can't send mail via a 'shell account', so I've got no idea what you're on about there. Whant to be a bit more specific about "the server refuses the connection" ?? What do you get if you say % telnet localhost smtp > I can not get X-Windows to run either, I'm using X11R6. This is what it says: > > Failure: not found > Bad: not found > Cannot: not found > ld.so: not found > X: 7: Syntax error: ")" unexpected > TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 2 > giving up. > ./xinit: Interrupted system call (errno 4): unable to connect to X server What are you actually doing to start X? You should run the configuration program (xf86config) first to configure X, and then start it using xdm. (Just say 'xdm' as root. Read the documentation for more info.) > Blair > > PS How do you give a user a false shell, in the master.passwd file I tried > typing in the shell of /bin/false (I was told this) but it didn't work. If you were using vipw (which you must), shells not in /etc/shells will be rejected. Add an entry in that file for /nologin, and specify that. Make sure there isn't a file called /nologin. > blair schmittel CyberNaut -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 00:47:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA03356 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:47:27 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA03336 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:46:50 -0700 Received: (from uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA12232; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:46:24 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:46:24 +0200 From: Lars koeller Message-Id: <199508140746.JAA12232@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM' dated: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Anyboady compiled gpc for FreeBSD-2.0.5? Where to find? > This has nothing to do with FreeBSD, but... gpc has to do something to do with 2.0.5R cause you need an gcc-2.6.3 to compile it, but the gcc did not compile out of the box with configure! And after I fix some problems (-Dbsd4_4, etc.) ld dumps core when it tries to ling the gpc! :-(( > Can you briefly explain what the "X-Face" header line in your email means? > Is it some kind of encoded image ? How does one decode it? Yes, you are right, it's an encoded bitmap. You can decode it with the faces package. It's in an compileable version on my ftp server, but it needs sometimes some help by hand during installation. After you have install it, xmail and exmh shows the 'face' when you read the mail (comipler switch in xmail). Some usefull notes how to send 'faces' with elm, .... are also located in the FAQ menu of exmh. ciau Lars -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller E-Mail: University of Rostock (Germany) lars.koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Fachbereich Physik Universitätsplatz 3 Phone: +49 381/498-1665 or 498-1648 18051 Rostock Fax: +49 381/498-1667 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 04:24:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA12912 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:24:02 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA12905 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:23:58 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00771; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:22:56 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199508141122.MAA00771@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk (Gary Palmer) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:22:56 +0100 (BST) Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2010.808247165@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Aug 12, 95 06:06:05 pm Reply-to: paul@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1824 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Gary Palmer who said > > In message <9508112032.AA08265@cs.weber.edu>, Terry Lambert writes: > >> There's a problem. I need to use fake ip addresses on the > >> internal side of the FreeBSD box since there's only a single valid ip > >> address allocated. I've thought about using socks on the FreeBSD box so that > >> the fake internal ip addresses are never seen. Basically, I'm not sure this > >> will work with Novix and I'm touting for experiences of solving this > >> setup in general, i.e. connecting Netware networks to the internet across > >> a dial-up connection where you've only had a single ip address allocated. > > >I don't really understand this is a requirement. > > Demon Internet don't allow you to have multiple IP's routed through > the same link unless you buy an entire class C off them (yes, I know > that they are free, but you have to pay DIS to route it to you, etc, > etc), and I seem to remember that they only do Class C rental as part > of their leased line package now, although I could be mistaken (I > haven't looked at their price structure for a while now). Ahh, yes, the joys of US connectivity. A 128Kb link from Pipex is $60,000 !!! You've got no chance of getting a class C address unless you get a leased line. It's basically accepted here now that if you get a dial-up connection you'll be allocated nothing more than a single ip address. BT, the only telcom big enough to really service the internet here has a stranglehold on leased lines, a 64Kb leased line is $9000 to rent, that's just the physical cable. You have to pay an ISP for the internet service on top of that. -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 04:29:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA13071 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:29:02 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA13057 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:29:00 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00805; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:27:15 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199508141127.MAA00805@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:27:15 +0100 (BST) Cc: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, terry@cs.weber.edu, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508130912.SAA18403@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Aug 13, 95 06:42:46 pm Reply-to: paul@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 879 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Michael Smith who said > > Nope. Run winsock stacks doing native IP over ethernet alongside the > IPX/whatever stack, put the FreeBSD box on the ethernet with the serial > link out; put all of the internal systems on a fake IP net, disable > routing on the FreeBSD box, and run a socks proxy on it. > This was proposal no 1. I wasn't sure how many socks-aware winsock clients there are though. I've been told that Netscape is. In fact, what I'll probably do is use Novix on the Netware side so that I don't have to worry about allocating ip addresses to each workstation. Novix seems to do teh tunneling job pretty well, it's just the asynchronous NLM which really sucks. -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 05:23:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA14492 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 05:23:56 -0700 Received: from nic.lth.se (nic.lth.se [130.235.20.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA14485 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 05:23:53 -0700 Received: from roma.axis.se (root@roma.axis.se [193.44.28.2]) by nic.lth.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA00855 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:23:49 +0200 Received: from axisab.axis.se by roma.axis.se with smtp (Smail3.1.29.0 #1) id m0shyZH-000m4YC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:24 MET DST Received: by axisab.axis.se (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0shyYV-000pg6C; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:23 MET DST Message-Id: From: seppo@axis.se (Seppo Ruuskanen) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:23:47 MET DST X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.0.1 12/13/89) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE Cc: seppo@axis.se Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >> Has anyone gotten FreeBSD (either 2.0 or 2.0.5) running on an IBM Thinkpad >> 360CE? I got it to boot from the boot floppy, but when it gets to the menu, >> the keyboard does not seem to function at all. I can't select any options. >> >> I have successfully installed both 2.0 and 2.0.5 on my desktop machine, so I >> do know how to install it. >> >> Jeff Wilson >> wilson@vnet.ibm.com <- Internet >> IBM EDA/PD East Fishkill, NY > >By default the Thinkpad initializes to type 2 scancodes. > >You should build a kernel on your desktop machine with the option >(documented in the LINT configuration file) to force the console driver >to use type 2 scancodes. > >Then use that kernel instead of the default kernel on the install disks >to perform the install. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@cs.weber.edu >--- >Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present >or previous employers. How do I get the new kernel on the bootfloppy?, there is just the kernel on the floppy and it contains all the neccesary programs to make an install. I made a new kernel (BOOTMFS) and kzipped it, it was only half the size of the kernel on the bootfloppy!. Well, and then when I have got the bootfloppy to work, is it enough to make a new kernel including the pcvt-code or is there more to configure (excluding the normal)? Yours Seppo Ruuskanen -- Seppo Ruuskanen System Administrator email: seppo@axis.se Axis Communication AB Tel: +46 46 191844 uucp: axisab.se!seppo S - 223 70 LUND GSM: +46 705 491844 ftp: ftp.axis.se SWEDEN Fax: +46 46 136130 www: http://www.axis.se/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 06:12:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA15613 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:12:47 -0700 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA15606 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:12:45 -0700 Received: from FISHKILL by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1252; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:12:31 EDT Received: by FISHKILL (XAGENTA 4.0) id 0032; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:12:26 -0400 Received: by belgium.fishkill.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19026; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:12:06 -0400 Message-Id: <9508141312.AA19026@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 10 Aug 95 11:05:00 CST.) <199508101705.LAA26375@rocky.sri.MT.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:12:04 -0500 From: "Jeff Wilson" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to the respondants, especially Nate. I got the install to work correctly. Now, the machine boots up FreeBSD, but it doesn't recognize the keyboard at the login prompt. I tried every possible option that the install program would let me (not very many really), but I couldn't get the keymap for the OS to be right. If it were nearly any other problem, I could probably boot up single user and fix it, but with no keyboard, the OS is pretty useless. Does anyone have an suggestions about how to get the OS to recognize the type 2 keycodes, given the right kernel? If I have to modify sysinstall, I will. I'm getting desperate at this point. Jeff Wilson wilson@vnet.ibm.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 06:26:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA15924 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:26:12 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA15906 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:25:43 -0700 Received: (from uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA14844; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:23:31 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:23:31 +0200 From: Lars koeller Message-Id: <199508141323.PAA14844@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM, you write: |> I have been trying for about a month to get lpr to work on my system. |> I can cat a ps file directly to /dev/lpt0 and it prints -- but lpr gives |> me blank pages. |> All I am asking for is for someone to send me a working printcap file for |> a psotscript printer. I have an HP-4 with postscript added. |> There has to be someone out there who is using a PS printer. Please send |> me a copy of your /etc/printcap file. |> Thanks. |> JS Hi! You ever try apsfilter (aps-491.tar.gz or .tgz) a realy nicht tool that should solve all your problems! Simply to install! Regards Lars -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller E-Mail: University of Rostock (Germany) lars.koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Fachbereich Physik Universitätsplatz 3 Phone: +49 381/498-1665 or 498-1648 18051 Rostock Fax: +49 381/498-1667 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 06:51:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA16796 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:51:12 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA16787 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:51:07 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA21609; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:52:27 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508141422.XAA21609@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: paul@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:52:26 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, terry@cs.weber.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508141127.MAA00805@server.netcraft.co.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Aug 14, 95 12:27:15 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1691 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Paul Richards stands accused of saying: > > Nope. Run winsock stacks doing native IP over ethernet alongside the > > IPX/whatever stack, put the FreeBSD box on the ethernet with the serial > > link out; put all of the internal systems on a fake IP net, disable > > routing on the FreeBSD box, and run a socks proxy on it. > > This was proposal no 1. I wasn't sure how many socks-aware winsock > clients there are though. I've been told that Netscape is. In fact, what All that you need. Netscape will do almost everything that you want anyway; for news & mail you'll have it on the BSD box already, so no proxy is needed, and if you use the cern httpd, you won't need to socksify your web browsers. C-Kermit for OS/2 is socks-aware, I'd guess that the DOS version may well be too. > I'll probably do is use Novix on the Netware side so that I don't have to > worry about allocating ip addresses to each workstation. Novix > seems to do teh tunneling job pretty well, it's just the asynchronous > NLM which really sucks. That's still awfully bogus. Allocating addresses isn't really all that difficult, and the performance difference will be pretty radical - bear in mind what Terry had to say about scheduling on the server. > Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 06:57:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA17318 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:57:30 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA17311 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 06:57:25 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA24655 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:00:19 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:01:22 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: xview library problem -- where is _cfree? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there a solution to this: libxview.so.3.2 contains a call to _cfree in C library and Clib does not have _cfree cmdtool is using _cfree and does not work. Is there an error in libxview.so.3.2 or is this error only in my system (FreeBSD 2.0.5 R) Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 07:30:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA18600 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 07:30:34 -0700 Received: from sceptre.arrowsmith.com (sceptre.arrowsmith.com [198.213.49.65]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA18594 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 07:30:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199508141430.HAA18594@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Received: by sceptre.arrowsmith.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA18879; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:25:01 -0500 From: Arabinda Bose Subject: Problem during FreeBSD installation To: hackers@FreeBsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 9:25:00 CDT Cc: questions@FreeBsd.org, abose@sceptre.arrowsmith.com Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a FreeBSD 2.0, released in Jan 1994. I had DOS/WINDOWS installed on my Pentium 90MHZ and I blew up my hard disk boot code during the installation of Free BSD. Could anyone please help. I partitioned my hard disk for DOS (400 Meg) and kept 412 Meg for BSD. I installed the DOS on the machine first and then started installing FreeBSD from the boot diskette. I went through the partioning of file systems fine, allocated swap space on 'b' and fixed the mount points for /, /usr, etc and did "Proceed". It said, this will erase your hard disk, proceed Y/N, I did a Yes and then it asked to reboot. After the reboot, it came up with two options F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD Nothing happened when I press F1 or F2. I deleted the BSD and tried to install DOS again but it gave the similar prompt(F1 DOS, F2 FreeBSD) during the reboot. I guess my boot record on the hard disk has got corrupted. Can you tell me how to get back again if I want to change my boot program on the harddrive ? I tried to format the "C" drive, it didn't help. Thanks in advane -- Arabinda Bose From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 08:13:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA20230 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:13:17 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA20223 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:13:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA01793 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:12:01 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: paul@freebsd.org cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netware gateway. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:22:56 BST." <199508141122.MAA00771@server.netcraft.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:12:00 +0100 Message-ID: <1791.808413120@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199508141122.MAA00771@server.netcraft.co.uk>, Paul Richards writes: >Ahh, yes, the joys of US connectivity. :-) Speaking as someone who gets over a 100 ICMP Source Quench messages/hour from Demon's routers because of trans-atlantic traffic, I can understand (and that's my sending data at 14k4 speeds remember...) >A 128Kb link from Pipex is $60,000 !!! You've got no chance of >getting a class C address unless you get a leased line. It's >basically accepted here now that if you get a dial-up connection >you'll be allocated nothing more than a single ip address. I went and re-read my stuff, Demon charge #1,000 setup and #600/month for a 64k leased line. Trouble is, unless you are accessing a LOT of UK based services (for which we have a relatively good link to ja.net), it's probably better going with another ISP. I think Pipex have something like 4 T1's going across the pond now. >BT, the only telcom big enough to really service the internet here >has a stranglehold on leased lines, a 64Kb leased line is $9000 to >rent, that's just the physical cable. You have to pay an ISP for >the internet service on top of that. Yes, but Energis and Mercury both do leased lines, and somewhat cheaper than BT from what I hear. BTW: Is this still relevant to questions? :-) Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 08:37:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA21765 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:37:48 -0700 Received: from server.netcraft.co.uk (server.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA21753 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:37:43 -0700 Received: (from paul@localhost) by server.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA03309; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:36:55 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199508141536.QAA03309@server.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk (Gary Palmer) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:36:55 +0100 (BST) Cc: paul@freebsd.org, terry@cs.weber.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1791.808413120@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Aug 14, 95 04:12:00 pm Reply-to: paul@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 2028 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Gary Palmer who said > > >A 128Kb link from Pipex is $60,000 !!! You've got no chance of > >getting a class C address unless you get a leased line. It's > >basically accepted here now that if you get a dial-up connection > >you'll be allocated nothing more than a single ip address. > > I went and re-read my stuff, Demon charge #1,000 setup and #600/month > for a 64k leased line. Trouble is, unless you are accessing a LOT of > UK based services (for which we have a relatively good link to > ja.net), it's probably better going with another ISP. I think Pipex > have something like 4 T1's going across the pond now. > > >BT, the only telcom big enough to really service the internet here > >has a stranglehold on leased lines, a 64Kb leased line is $9000 to > >rent, that's just the physical cable. You have to pay an ISP for > >the internet service on top of that. > > Yes, but Energis and Mercury both do leased lines, and somewhat > cheaper than BT from what I hear. I tried both Energis and Mercury and neither provided leased lines. Energis are only a long-haul provider, you still have to get a BT dedicated line installed at each end to the BT exchange. Mercury didn't know what I was talking about, maybe they've got better sales staff now. Demon's leased line prices are actually not too bad, they weren't offering leased lines when I looked into it in January. They're having enough problems dealing with dial-up traffic though and I wouldn't trust a heavily loaded commercial line to them. For our particular case we want good connectivity to us from everywhere, rather than needing to connect out to specific places, so a good backbone is important. I wish Janet would get their act together and start offering commercial services (150 Mbit backbone, comapared to 1 or 2Mb by most commercial providers). -- Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. Internet: paul@FreeBSD.org, http://www.freebsd.org/~paul Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1222 457651 (home) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 08:49:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA22755 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:49:38 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA22744 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:49:30 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA05559; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:51:22 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:51:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199508141551.JAA05559@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Jeff Wilson" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: <9508141312.AA19026@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> References: <199508101705.LAA26375@rocky.sri.MT.net> <9508141312.AA19026@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> Reply-To: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) From: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Does anyone have an suggestions about how to get the OS to recognize the > type 2 keycodes, given the right kernel? You need to compile a kernel with pcvt, with the options as follows: # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options "PCVT_SCANSET=2" # Stupid Stinkpad keyboards The last one is the important one. The boot floppy I built for you has this in it. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 08:51:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA23046 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:51:35 -0700 Received: from scratchy.itsnet.com (scratchy.itsnet.com [204.118.1.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23032 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:51:32 -0700 Received: from mail.itsnet.com by scratchy.itsnet.com; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:04:09 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:04:09 -0600 Message-Id: <199508141604.KAA25908@scratchy.itsnet.com> X-Sender: blair@itsnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Michael Smith From: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Subject: Re: FreeBSD??? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >That's fair enough, but the rest of the info isn't too good yet; let's >see what we can work out though... > >> With sendmail which is running in the background, it will send mail out of >> the system through a shell account, but will no let any remote site connect >> to the server. The server refuses the connection. > >Hmm. Sendmail can't send mail via a 'shell account', so I've got no idea >what you're on about there. Whant to be a bit more specific about >"the server refuses the connection" ?? What do you get if you say I meant using "mail ???@remotehost.com" > >% telnet localhost smtp > It connects, then says ESMTP spoken here, then it freezes. >> I can not get X-Windows to run either, I'm using X11R6. This is what it says: >> >> Failure: not found >> Bad: not found >> Cannot: not found >> ld.so: not found >> X: 7: Syntax error: ")" unexpected >> TRANS(SocketUNIXConnect) () can't connect: errno = 2 >> giving up. >> ./xinit: Interrupted system call (errno 4): unable to connect to X server > >What are you actually doing to start X? You should run the configuration >program (xf86config) first to configure X, and then start it using xdm. >(Just say 'xdm' as root. Read the documentation for more info.) > I was using xinit, maybe that's why. :) >> Blair >> >> PS How do you give a user a false shell, in the master.passwd file I tried >> typing in the shell of /bin/false (I was told this) but it didn't work. > >If you were using vipw (which you must), shells not in /etc/shells will >be rejected. Add an entry in that file for /nologin, and specify that. >Make sure there isn't a file called /nologin. > >> blair schmittel CyberNaut > >-- >]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ >]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ >]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ >]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ >]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ blair schmittel CyberNaut blair@itsnet.com Internet Access Provided by CyberNaut From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 08:57:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA23438 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:57:04 -0700 Received: from iri18.infores.com (iri18.infores.com [137.103.40.8]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23419 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:56:59 -0700 From: Jonathan_Miller_at_PO.CHI03@smtplink.infores.com Received: from smtplink.infores.com (smtplink2.infores.com) by iri18.infores.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA218735797; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:56:37 -0400 Received: from ccMail by smtplink.infores.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA808426535; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:48:30 EST Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:48:30 EST Message-Id: <9507148084.AA808426535@smtplink.infores.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BT-410A EIDE multi-boot solution? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In the January, 1995, UNIX Review, David Baily, mentions the Bus Logic BT-410A IDE caching controller as a multi-booting solution. The controller is supposed to let you boot from any one of up to 4 attached drives. Has anyone used one of these with FreeBSD? If so, how do you like it? I want to load FreeBSD, Windows NT workstation, and Windows 95 (each on a separate drive) on my system. Do you think one of these controllers would be a worth while investment (I will need to upgrade my IDE controller to EIDE to accomodate for the third drive that I will be purchasing anyway)? Does anyone know of any similar controllers with the multi-boot facility but with out the cache (a less expensive alternative). Also, will I still be able to mount any MS-DOS FAT partitions from FreeBSD if I do this? Any comments or suggestions be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jon -- jonathan.miller@infores.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 08:57:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA23519 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:57:51 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23483 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:57:41 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA03869 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:57:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA03783; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:56:41 -0700 To: Arabinda Bose cc: hackers@FreeBsd.org, questions@FreeBsd.org, abose@sceptre.arrowsmith.com Subject: Re: Problem during FreeBSD installation In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:25:00 CDT." <199508141430.HAA18594@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:56:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3781.808415801@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBsd.org Precedence: bulk > I partitioned my hard disk for DOS (400 Meg) and kept 412 Meg > for BSD. I installed the DOS on the machine first and then > started installing FreeBSD from the boot diskette. > I went through the partioning of file systems fine, allocated You need to specify the geometry by hand with the `(G)eometry' option - clearly FreeBSD has guessed it wrong. You have NOT blown away your boot code, you just have a geometry mismatch. Please see the notes in the troubleshooting guide (it's on the boot floppy, please read it) for what to do now. Jordan > swap space on 'b' and fixed the mount points for /, /usr, etc > and did "Proceed". It said, this will erase your hard disk, > proceed Y/N, I did a Yes and then it asked to reboot. After > the reboot, it came up with two options > F1 DOS > F2 FreeBSD > Nothing happened when I press F1 or F2. > > I deleted the BSD and tried to install DOS again but it gave the > similar prompt(F1 DOS, F2 FreeBSD) during the reboot. I guess my > boot record on the hard disk has got corrupted. Can you tell me > how to get back again if I want to change my boot program on the > harddrive ? > > I tried to format the "C" drive, it didn't help. > > Thanks in advane > > -- Arabinda Bose From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 09:06:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA23986 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:06:34 -0700 Received: from ccsun.unicamp.br (obelix.unicamp.br [143.106.10.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA23973 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:06:23 -0700 Received: from ifi.unicamp.br by ccsun.unicamp.br (5.0/SMI-SVR4-DNI-8.0) id AA12072; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:06:10 -0300 Received: from terra.ifi.unicamp.br by ifi.unicamp.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29312; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:05:43 BSC Received: (from moriya@localhost) by terra.ifi.unicamp.br (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA20142; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:06:19 -0300 From: Alexandre Moriya - esp Message-Id: <199508141606.NAA20142@terra.ifi.unicamp.br> Subject: NIS passwords To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:06:18 -0300 (BSC) Cc: moriya@ifi.unicamp.br (Alexandre Moriya - esp) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1125 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm new to this list and I intend to help and to "be helped" whenever it is possible !!! Well, my problem concerns about NIS password file which is served by a SUNOS 4.x host. In these machines there isn't the concept of shadow passwords. My problem is that when I try to access the NIS password file from my FreeBSD-2.0.5 host, the password is always invalid. I realized that the password field in FreeBSD is bigger than the password field in SUNOS 4.x. How can I use SUNOS 4.x password file in my FreeBSD box ? I used "vipw" to insert the line "+::::::" in the passowrd file so that I can see the SUNOS NIS password file. Then, I used "ypbind". Now I can see the NIS passwords using "ypcat passwd" but it can't be used by FreeBSD correctly, isn't it ? I just want my FreeBSD box to be a NIS client... Can anybody help me ? Thanks in advance, BYE, Ate mais -- Alexandre Moriya (RA 910061) Centro de Computacao John David Rogers (CCJDR) Instituto de Fisica Gleb Wataghin (IFGW) Universidade Estadual de Campinas (UNICAMP) Campinas - SP - Brasil e-mail: moriya@ifi.unicamp.br moriya@dcc.unicamp.br From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 09:13:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA24679 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:13:26 -0700 Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se (mailgate.ericsson.se [130.100.2.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23223 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:54:11 -0700 Received: from ericom (ericom.ericsson.se [130.100.128.25]) by mailgate.ericsson.se (8.6.11/1.0) with SMTP id RAA08392 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:54:07 +0200 Received: from nrkpc523.ericsson.se by ericom (4.1/LME-DOM-2.2.4) id AA15904; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:54:06 +0200 Message-Id: <9508141554.AA15904@ericom> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:53:36 0000 From: Bjoern Linderson X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: bin/bin.ai and bin/bin.cc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Nice work, the far i got... I'm a unix 'freak', and cant stand a PC machine, unless it runs Unix, and freebsd seems to be one of the fastest systems avaliable. I'm having trouble with the installation of FreeBSD. I downloaded the files in BIN (bin.aa....) and did everything as told in the installation manual. The first 8 parts, works just fine, but when i come to bin.ai, it goofs up. The FTP site's tell me that these parts should be 235K in size (all other parts are 240640 bytes) but the bin.ai comes down to 293683 bytes, and the bin.cc comes to 240632 bytes. I've been trying to download these files from numerous sites, all with the same result. Is the file sizes correct?, and if not, where could i get the 2 files in correct size? **HELP!!** Please mail the answer to my work email adress, since i don't have a private one... etxs.etxbjln@memo.ericsson.se Best regards, Bjoern Linderson From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 09:21:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA23438 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:57:04 -0700 Received: from iri18.infores.com (iri18.infores.com [137.103.40.8]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA23419 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:56:59 -0700 From: Jonathan_Miller_at_PO.CHI03@smtplink.infores.com Received: from smtplink.infores.com (smtplink2.infores.com) by iri18.infores.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA218735797; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:56:37 -0400 Received: from ccMail by smtplink.infores.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.05) id AA808426535; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:48:30 EST Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:48:30 EST Message-Id: <9507148084.AA808426535@smtplink.infores.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: BT-410A EIDE multi-boot solution? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In the January, 1995, UNIX Review, David Baily, mentions the Bus Logic BT-410A IDE caching controller as a multi-booting solution. The controller is supposed to let you boot from any one of up to 4 attached drives. Has anyone used one of these with FreeBSD? If so, how do you like it? I want to load FreeBSD, Windows NT workstation, and Windows 95 (each on a separate drive) on my system. Do you think one of these controllers would be a worth while investment (I will need to upgrade my IDE controller to EIDE to accomodate for the third drive that I will be purchasing anyway)? Does anyone know of any similar controllers with the multi-boot facility but with out the cache (a less expensive alternative). Also, will I still be able to mount any MS-DOS FAT partitions from FreeBSD if I do this? Any comments or suggestions be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jon -- jonathan.miller@infores.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 09:42:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA27485 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:42:24 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA27475 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:42:22 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id CAA22249; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 02:43:42 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508141713.CAA22249@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD??? To: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 02:43:42 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508141604.KAA25908@scratchy.itsnet.com> from "Blair Schmittel" at Aug 14, 95 10:04:09 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1364 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Blair Schmittel stands accused of saying: > >> With sendmail which is running in the background, it will send mail out of > >> the system through a shell account, but will no let any remote site connect > >> to the server. The server refuses the connection. > > > >Hmm. Sendmail can't send mail via a 'shell account', so I've got no idea > >what you're on about there. Whant to be a bit more specific about > >"the server refuses the connection" ?? What do you get if you say > > I meant using "mail ???@remotehost.com" Ok, so mail outwards is working OK. > >% telnet localhost smtp > > > It connects, then says ESMTP spoken here, then it freezes. Alright, that's different from a refused connection, it's waiting for _you_ to say something. Try typing EHLO and hitting enter. You should get a message along the lines of 250-myhost.my-domain Hello myhost [10.0.0.1], please to meet you If this happens, there's nothing wrong at your end. > blair schmittel CyberNaut -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 09:50:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA28980 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:50:27 -0700 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA28964 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 09:50:22 -0700 Received: from FISHKILL by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7150; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:50:20 EDT Received: by FISHKILL (XAGENTA 4.0) id 0053; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:50:08 -0400 Received: by belgium.fishkill.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24906; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:49:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9508141649.AA24906@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: (Your message of Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:51:22 CST.) <199508141551.JAA05559@rocky.sri.MT.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:49:49 -0500 From: "Jeff Wilson" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk But I already have that kernel on the boot floppy you gave me. The installation program runs fine, but once I boot from the hard disk, it doesn't work. I thought the kernel gets copied from the boot floppy to the hard disk. So, I should have the right kernel, but it still doesn't work. If I go into the config utility (booting with -c) from the hard disk, I have no problems in there, but once I go to the login prompt, it doesn't work. I THINK this means that the kernel is fine, but some configuration file that is read on startup is changing the keymap. Unfortunatly, I have no way of changing it (except MAYBE by modififing sysinstall, but I'm not sure exactly how I would have to do that.) Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 10:03:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA00921 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:03:31 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA00891 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:03:25 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA22332; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:04:44 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508141734.DAA22332@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE To: wilson@VNET.IBM.COM (Jeff Wilson) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:04:43 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508141649.AA24906@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> from "Jeff Wilson" at Aug 14, 95 12:49:49 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1503 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jeff Wilson stands accused of saying: > But I already have that kernel on the boot floppy you gave me. The > installation program runs fine, but once I boot from the hard disk, it doesn't > work. I thought the kernel gets copied from the boot floppy to the hard disk. > So, I should have the right kernel, but it still doesn't work. No, the kernel on the floppy is the very specialk BOOTMFS kernel; the kernel on your harddisk is the GENERIC kernel, which comes out of the bindist. > If I go into the config utility (booting with -c) from the hard disk, I have > no problems in there, but once I go to the login prompt, it doesn't work. I > THINK this means that the kernel is fine, but some configuration file that is > read on startup is changing the keymap. Unfortunatly, I have no way of > changing it (except MAYBE by modififing sysinstall, but I'm not sure exactly > how I would have to do that.) AFAIK, userconfig uses the BIOS for character I/O, so you're not seeing anything relevant there. You need some kind soul to provide you with an alternate kernel and some way of getting it onto your disk. > Jeff -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 10:11:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA02110 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:11:01 -0700 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA02100 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:10:58 -0700 Received: from FISHKILL by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 7569; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:10:58 EDT Received: by FISHKILL (XAGENTA 4.0) id 0056; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:10:54 -0400 Received: by belgium.fishkill.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21694; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:10:37 -0400 Message-Id: <9508141710.AA21694@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 15 Aug 95 03:04:43 +0930.) <199508141734.DAA22332@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:10:35 -0500 From: "Jeff Wilson" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Oh. I see now! Ok. I'm going to byte (sic) the bullet and try building a kernel. Now, let's see, where did I put that FAQ? Thanks! Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 10:34:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA04436 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:34:38 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA04426 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:34:37 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA04334 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:32:25 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA28174; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:30:02 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id NAA04921; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:30:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:30:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Bjoern Linderson cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: bin/bin.ai and bin/bin.cc In-Reply-To: <9508141554.AA15904@ericom> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Bjoern Linderson wrote: > Hello! > > Nice work, the far i got... > I'm a unix 'freak', and cant stand a PC machine, unless > it runs Unix, and freebsd seems to be one of the fastest > systems avaliable. > > I'm having trouble with the installation of FreeBSD. > I downloaded the files in BIN (bin.aa....) > and did everything as told in the installation manual. > The first 8 parts, works just fine, but when i come to > bin.ai, it goofs up. The FTP site's tell me that these parts > should be 235K in size (all other parts are 240640 bytes) > but the bin.ai comes down to 293683 bytes, and the bin.cc > comes to 240632 bytes. > > I've been trying to download these files from numerous sites, > all with the same result. Is the file sizes correct?, and if not, > where could i get the 2 files in correct size? > > **HELP!!** > > Please mail the answer to my work email adress, since i don't > have a private one... > > etxs.etxbjln@memo.ericsson.se You don't mention what version of FreeBSD you're talking about. I've personally downloaded both the 0622 and 0726 snaps, and all the files were fine. Both of the files you mention had file sizes of 240640, so I think you had better retry your ftp'ing. A common mistake made is to forget to specify the binary (or image) mode in ftp. Just enter a 'bi' command BEFORE you begin downloading. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 10:36:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA04623 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:36:01 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA04608 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:35:57 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA05934; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:37:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:37:54 -0600 Message-Id: <199508141737.LAA05934@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Jeff Wilson" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: <9508141649.AA24906@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> References: <199508141551.JAA05559@rocky.sri.MT.net> <9508141649.AA24906@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> Reply-To: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) From: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > But I already have that kernel on the boot floppy you gave me. The > installation program runs fine, but once I boot from the hard disk, it > doesn't work. I thought the kernel gets copied from the boot floppy > to the hard disk. So, I should have the right kernel, but it still > doesn't work. But the kernel copied to the hard-disk is *NOT* the same as the kernel on the floppy. The kernel on the floppy using a memory file-system, while the one copied to the hard-disk is a GENERIC kernel. If you need, I can make you a non-MFS kernel available which you'll need to hand-copy onto your hard-drive. This might be a bit difficult with the current tools though, unless you know what you are doing. > If I go into the config utility (booting with -c) from the hard disk, I have > no problems in there, but once I go to the login prompt, it doesn't work. I > THINK this means that the kernel is fine, but some configuration file that is > read on startup is changing the keymap. Unfortunatly, I have no way of > changing it (except MAYBE by modififing sysinstall, but I'm not sure exactly > how I would have to do that.) We could build a modified root.flp, but it would require a complete re-install. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 11:09:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA08499 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:09:46 -0700 Received: from alpha.enc.edu (alpha.enc.edu [199.93.252.250]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA08490 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:09:42 -0700 Received: by alpha.enc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03 rev 11/30/94) id AA24474; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:08:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:08:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles N. Owens" To: questions list FreeBSD Subject: DHCP supported Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all who replied to my previous bootp question. Sometimes I've very blind.... Does the 2.0.5-RELEASE bootpd understand DHCP? What about -Current? I need to support a bunch of WfW 3.11 machines. thanks, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 11:11:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA08762 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:11:52 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA08754 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 11:11:47 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA16504; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:04:07 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508141804.AA16504@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:04:06 MDT Cc: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508130912.SAA18403@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Aug 13, 95 06:42:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Nope. Run winsock stacks doing native IP over ethernet alongside the > IPX/whatever stack, put the FreeBSD box on the ethernet with the serial > link out; put all of the internal systems on a fake IP net, disable > routing on the FreeBSD box, and run a socks proxy on it. > > Presto; instant firewall, easy net access. You can run all your mail > on the FreeBSD box using pop or imap, and with appropriate clients > you can still talk out. You can put the CERN proxy httpd on the > FreeBSD system as well, and take advantage of an organisation-wide > web cache. > > This is easy to set up, and a very popular use for FreeBSD systems around > here. It neglects the additional negotiation that takes place for the NOVIX tunneling NLM. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 12:04:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA15843 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:04:51 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA15799 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:04:29 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HU2QL49N5S0071HU@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:09:52 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id UAA10441; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:23:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:23:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: bin/bin.ai and bin/bin.cc In-reply-to: <9508141554.AA15904@ericom> from "Bjoern Linderson" at Aug 14, 95 05:53:36 pm To: etxs.ghost%memo.ericsson.se.etxs.etxbjln@memo.ericson.de (Bjoern Linderson) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (user alias) Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199508141823.UAA10441@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 1417 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello! > > Nice work, the far i got... > I'm a unix 'freak', and cant stand a PC machine, unless > it runs Unix, and freebsd seems to be one of the fastest > systems avaliable. > > I'm having trouble with the installation of FreeBSD. > I downloaded the files in BIN (bin.aa....) > and did everything as told in the installation manual. > The first 8 parts, works just fine, but when i come to > bin.ai, it goofs up. The FTP site's tell me that these parts > should be 235K in size (all other parts are 240640 bytes) > but the bin.ai comes down to 293683 bytes, and the bin.cc > comes to 240632 bytes. > I looked into gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/FreeBSD/2.0.5-RELEASE/dists/bin and find these files being correctly sized (240640). I don't know which sites you have tried but either you did something wrong during the ftp download (bin vs. ascii mode, which I don't assume since you are saying you are a 'unix freak') or something is messed with the sites you tried. > I've been trying to download these files from numerous sites, > all with the same result. Is the file sizes correct?, and if not, > where could i get the 2 files in correct size? > > **HELP!!** > > Please mail the answer to my work email adress, since i don't > have a private one... > > etxs.etxbjln@memo.ericsson.se > > Best regards, Bjoern Linderson > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 12:26:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA18199 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:26:36 -0700 Received: from dmbsdi.datamar.com.ar (dmbsdi.datamar.com.ar [200.9.212.34]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA18027 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:24:56 -0700 Received: from dialup1.datamar.com.ar (dialup1.datamar.com.ar [200.0.255.145]) by dmbsdi.datamar.com.ar (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA12821 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:36:59 -0300 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:36:59 -0300 Message-Id: <199508141936.QAA12821@dmbsdi.datamar.com.ar> X-Sender: n30273@dmbsdi.datamar.com.ar X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: gedelste@datamar.com.ar (Gustavo A. Edelstein) Subject: Booting FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I want to know if I can really boot many operating systems from the FreeBsd booting program. Thank's. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 12:40:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA19478 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:40:59 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA19456 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:40:53 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA23398; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:32:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:32:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Don's FList drop" To: questions Subject: Exit on signal 12 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm running Uniboard here... or at least trying to. I think this component may have been compiled under 2.0 and something has changes in 2.0.5R that caused this break - it runs long enough to print the startup tag, then exits on signal 12. If I read sys/signal.h correctly, this indicates a bad argument to a system call. I've written the author, but I know he's not primarily a FreeBSD guy - any ideas what system call arguments changed from 2.0 to 2.0.5? (Pardon if this is a stupendously stupid question) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 13:31:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA25227 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:31:19 -0700 Received: from alpha.enc.edu (alpha.enc.edu [199.93.252.250]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA25205 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:31:07 -0700 Received: by alpha.enc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03 rev 11/30/94) id AA21349; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:29:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:29:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles N. Owens" To: questions list FreeBSD Subject: Re: DHCP supported In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Charles N. Owens wrote: > Does the 2.0.5-RELEASE bootpd understand DHCP? What about -Current? I > need to support a bunch of WfW 3.11 machines. To answer my own question, it doesn't 2.0.5-RELEASE doesn't seem to. I don't know about -current. I grabbed ver 2.4.3 from ftp://firewall.mc.com/pub/bootp-2.4.3.tar.Z And applied the DHCP patch ftp://nimbus.anu.edu.au/pub/tridge/samba/contributed/DHCP.patch It, somewhat to my surprise, compiled very nicely. ...AND, it even SEEMS to work! Should I expect any trouble from this? Thanks, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 13:37:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA25826 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:37:01 -0700 Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA25811 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:36:49 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA15573; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:35:42 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199508142035.NAA15573@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD??? To: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508140531.XAA21025@scratchy.itsnet.com> from "Blair Schmittel" at Aug 13, 95 11:31:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 603 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk blair schmittel writes: > I am running on FreeBSD 2.0.5 and since I have installed it on one of my > servers for a "test drive", I haven't been able to get anything to work > with it. > > I have tried compiling the source for NCSA's httpd, errors with makefile. > I've tried compiling perl 5, errors with makefile. I can't get sendmail to > work at all. The problem is with the version of make that comes with 2.0.5, it has a problem with lines containing . The solution is to get a newer version from ftp.freebsd.org. I think it's available as a pkg file (confirmation?). -Archie From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 13:40:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA26455 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:40:59 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA26431 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:40:50 -0700 Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id NAA27741; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:38:52 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa17391; 14 Aug 95 13:37 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA08742; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:37:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:37:06 -0700 From: Mark Diekhans Message-Id: <199508142037.NAA08742@Grizzly.COM> To: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: APM on FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to get APM working on FreeBSD 2.0. I have actually grabed the lastest (2.1) APM driver and linked it into my kernel. The problem I am having is that after I resume, the system reboots. The display comes back on with the correct contents and then a second later, the system reboots. Samsung senslite 200. 4 mb memory. The following messages are logged: apm0apm0: Engaged control enabled (yes, the string apm0 is repeated) found APM BIOS version 1.1 apm0: Idling CPU disabled Any ideas? Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 13:49:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA27570 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:49:44 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA27530 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:49:33 -0700 From: Fgaii@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA110083331; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:48:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:48:51 -0400 Message-Id: <950814164849_54465491@aol.com> To: Questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD2.0.5 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've successfully installed 2.0.5 on my second SCSI HD. I've read that to boot off this HD I need the command BOOT: sd (1,a) /kernel -c. Where do I put this? When I boot, I just get into the usual DOS config.sys and autoexec.bat routines. Anything to do with copying the DISTS\BIN and FLOPPIES files off the the CDROM into a FreeBSD directory? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 14:02:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA29055 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:02:34 -0700 Received: from gateway.us.sidwell.edu (gateway.us.sidwell.edu [198.3.254.33]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28781 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:59:14 -0700 Received: (from lcozzens@localhost) by gateway.us.sidwell.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) id QAA18589; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:59:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Lisa Cozzens To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Problems with Cirrus card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to help a colleague set up FreeBSD on a Pentium-90 with 50 megs of RAM. We're having problems getting the Cirrus video card to work properly. When FreeBSD boots with the card in, the boot prompt (whereyou can specify which kernel/hard drive to boot from) comes up fine, but then weird things start happening. It seems like every second or third character is replaced by a space, so screens look something like this: f a d s c e h a etc., etc. When we put in a different card (we've tried a Trident 8900 and a "Windows Accelerator" card, model #1580HC, both with 1MB of memory), everything works fine. We tried booting with the -c flag, and we got into the config program just fine. Then, when we typed ?, the text was illegible (like the text above) but the config> prompt was perfectly legible, as was anything we typed at it. Because the text was illegible, we couldn't get any information from that program. The Cirrus card is labeled CL-GD5426-80QC-A and the manual says that it's a VL Bus card based on the Cirrus Logic GD5426 graphic VGA chip (thus the labeling :). The card is using IRQ 9; nothing in the startup messages mentions any conflict with that IRQ. The card has 1 MB of memory. I checked the handbook, the faq, and systems.faq but I couldn't find any mention of Cirrus cards. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right place(s)? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Lisa Cozzens ____ Lisa Cozzens (lcozzens@sidwell.edu) (o | WWW Home Page: http://www.sidwell.edu/~lcozzens/ \ "We are what we consistently do; excellence, therefore, ========= is not an act but a habit." --Aristotle From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 14:12:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA29937 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:12:50 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (lupine.nsi.nasa.gov [198.116.2.100]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA29919 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:12:43 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA28688; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:09:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:09:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: Charlie Root cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ethernet Connection In-Reply-To: <199508102210.WAA00251@younew.media.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Charlie Root wrote: > Hya, > This is what I want to do, i dont know if this os could do it. > What I want to do is to be able to access THIS SYSTEM ( My System ) Running > FreeBSD and Connected to the net with a modem WITH another computer using > Ethernet /NE2000 Cards.... The other System is PPP Compatible.. I cant > Seem to find the DEVIVE ed1 (Which is my ethernet card) in the dev dir. > I tried using SLATTACH to get it working, but it dont.. How can I do so? > Thanks in Advanced.. Device ed1 is a "pseudo" device compiled into the network code, so you won't see an entry in /dev. However you can do ifconfig -a to see what network devices are configured... If ed1 was probed it should show up there. Note that you can look at /var/log/messages to see your boot log to make sure all devices were properly probed during boot. Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | work: http://www.eco.nsi.nasa.gov/~mnewell | | home: http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 14:18:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA00513 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:18:47 -0700 Received: from exodus.databank.com (databank.com [198.3.149.253]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00504 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:18:44 -0700 Received: from [199.67.32.116] by exodus.databank.com (8.6.5/950813.07ccg) id QAA21587; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:18:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199508142118.QAA21587@exodus.databank.com > To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: Location of subdirectory Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:17:35 -0600 From: Joel Cash X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -- [ From: Joel Cash * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Sirs: I would like to be able to try out the current distribution of FreeBSD. At this time I am not interested in obtaining the source code for the core files. I would like to download the compressed binaries that have been mentioned as being in the bindist subdirectory in the documentation I have found. Would someone please point me to the correct directory? Thank you for your time and help. Sincerely, Joel Cash -- Joel W. Cash PGP fingerprint=A6 BA 61 BF 33 6F 78 78 BD DC C3 42 EB A5 DB E7 PGP ... Just *do* it! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 14:23:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA00906 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:23:33 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA00898 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 14:23:25 -0700 Received: by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.15) via UUCP id AA05956 ; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:22:39 -0400 Received: (from jan@localhost) by bagend.atl.ga.us (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA16970; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:16:13 -0400 From: Jan Isley Message-Id: <199508142116.RAA16970@bagend.atl.ga.us> Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD To: gedelste@datamar.com.ar (Gustavo A. Edelstein) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508141936.QAA12821@dmbsdi.datamar.com.ar> from "Gustavo A. Edelstein" at Aug 14, 95 04:36:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 291 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Gustavo A. Edelstein wrote: > I want to know if I can really boot many operating systems from the > FreeBsd booting program. It works for me... FreeBSD 2.0.5R, DOS 6.23, OS/2 Warp, and before I made that partition into a /var/news slice for FreeBSD, I could also boot Linux 1.2 as well. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 15:03:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA03150 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:03:49 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA03140 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:03:39 -0700 From: Fgaii@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA136717786; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 18:03:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 18:03:06 -0400 Message-Id: <950814180126_54517599@aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: re. boot off sd(1,a) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the quick! reply, all! As a work-around, I booted off the floppy, and at the BOOT: prompt, typed sd(1,a)/kernel -c, and voila!, got into FreeBSD! Hooray!!!! Not particularly quick, and very dirty. In lieu of moving the DOS/BSD to HD C, will have to get the TOOLS/boot stuff onto an active partition on C. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 16:53:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA10750 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:53:50 -0700 Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA10744 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:53:43 -0700 Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09275 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:56:59 -0600 From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199508142356.RAA09275@hemi.com> Subject: FreeBSD & 3270 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:56:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 453 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, People trying to login to our FreeBSD box with a 3270 connection cannot really do anything because what seems like an incomplete termcap (3278-2). Is there any way to make curses programs like 3270 connections ? Thanks in advance, -Ade -------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - www: -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 17:41:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA13668 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:41:01 -0700 Received: from mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu (mailhub.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.40]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA13662 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:40:59 -0700 Received: from dirac (dirac.localnet.com [204.97.226.197]) by mailhub (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id UAA05025 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:40:45 -0400 From: "Cihat Ozhasoglu" Message-Id: <9508142043.ZM-161421@dirac> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:43:35 -0400 X-Mailer: ZM-Win (3.2.1 11Sep94) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Printing on HP Laser 5MP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have been using gs to print on non-ps OKIDATA OL400 laser printer. It worked fine for until 2 weeks ago. Now, when I try to print gs seems to substitute the fonts ok but then it just freezes and may start printing 4 or 5 hours later. I can't even print ascii files. Is this a known bug or am I doing something wrong? I have talked to one person on #freebsd (irc) who also mentioned having similar problems! At any rate, I am planning to purcahse an HP Laserjet 5MP (postscript) printer. I am wondering if I may be facing the same problems with this postscript printer. Or, the bug, if any, is solely related to gs? I am running FreeBSD 2.0.5R. I would appreciate if you could point me in the right diraction before I invest in a new ps-printer. Thank you for your time. Cihat Ozhasoglu Dept. of Physics SUNY at Buffalo Buffalo, NY 14260-1500 U.S.A. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 19:54:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA17805 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:54:21 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.alpharel.com (gatekeeper.ALPHAREL.COM [204.118.5.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17799 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:54:20 -0700 Received: (from mail@localhost) by gatekeeper.alpharel.com (8.6.8/8.6.6a) id TAA10198 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:54:19 -0700 Received: from optisun40.optigfx.com(147.203.1.40) by gatekeeper.alpharel.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010195; Mon Aug 14 19:54:08 1995 Received: by optisun40.optigfx.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1.SI1) id AA03394; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:54:07 PDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:54:07 PDT From: schwarz@alpharel.com (Steve Schwarz) Message-Id: <9508150254.AA03394@optisun40.optigfx.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/incoming/wcd11.tgz Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to ftp to get this file (it is said to contain a new IDE cdrom driver). I am unable to see the incoming directory (it has permissions d---------). Am I doing something wrong? sts From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 20:08:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA18366 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:08:24 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA18360 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:08:21 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA06235 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:08:15 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA23555; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 12:53:34 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508150323.MAA23555@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 12:53:34 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508141804.AA16504@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Aug 14, 95 12:04:06 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1433 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > Nope. Run winsock stacks doing native IP over ethernet alongside the > > IPX/whatever stack, put the FreeBSD box on the ethernet with the serial > > link out; put all of the internal systems on a fake IP net, disable > > routing on the FreeBSD box, and run a socks proxy on it. > > > > Presto; instant firewall, easy net access. You can run all your mail > > on the FreeBSD box using pop or imap, and with appropriate clients > > you can still talk out. You can put the CERN proxy httpd on the > > FreeBSD system as well, and take advantage of an organisation-wide > > web cache. > > > > This is easy to set up, and a very popular use for FreeBSD systems around > > here. > > It neglects the additional negotiation that takes place for the NOVIX > tunneling NLM. IIRC, the desire was to connect a pile of WfW boxes on a Novell network to the 'net, not to bridge two Novell networks across the 'net. Using IPX/SPX for any part of this is a Bad Idea, on the KISS principle. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 20:22:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA19021 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:22:51 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA19009 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 20:22:35 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA23703; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:23:38 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508150353.NAA23703@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Problems with Cirrus card To: lcozzens@gateway.us.sidwell.edu (Lisa Cozzens) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:23:37 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Lisa Cozzens" at Aug 14, 95 04:59:17 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2698 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Lisa Cozzens stands accused of saying: > > I'm trying to help a colleague set up FreeBSD on a Pentium-90 with 50 > megs of RAM. We're having problems getting the Cirrus video card to work > properly. When FreeBSD boots with the card in, the boot prompt (whereyou > can specify which kernel/hard drive to boot from) comes up fine, but then > weird things start happening. It seems like every second or third > character is replaced by a space, so screens look something like this: > f a d s c e h a > etc., etc. When we put in a different card (we've tried a Trident 8900 > and a "Windows Accelerator" card, model #1580HC, both with 1MB of > memory), everything works fine. Ok; start by taking the machine back to 16M of memory - some of those Cirrus cards have a linear memory aperture over the 16M mark, and it's possible this is interfering with the card. It's also possible that your VLB setup is too fast - if you can, add a waitstate to the bus. (It may be a jumper marked <33MHz/>33MHz...) > We tried booting with the -c flag, and we got into the config program > just fine. Then, when we typed ?, the text was illegible (like the text > above) but the config> prompt was perfectly legible, as was anything we > typed at it. Because the text was illegible, we couldn't get any > information from that program. The text above comes out rather fast, so I suspect you may have a timing thing happening - it's hard to tell. > The Cirrus card is labeled CL-GD5426-80QC-A and the manual says that it's > a VL Bus card based on the Cirrus Logic GD5426 graphic VGA chip (thus the > labeling :). The card is using IRQ 9; nothing in the startup messages > mentions any conflict with that IRQ. The card has 1 MB of memory. You'll want to disable IRQ 9 - I don't think this is your problem, but if you have anything else in the system on either IRQ2 or IRQ9 you're guaranteed grief from it. > I checked the handbook, the faq, and systems.faq but I couldn't find any > mention of Cirrus cards. Maybe I'm just not looking in the right place(s)? The 5426 is a really cheezy card - if you're planning on doing X on this machine, do yourself a favour and buy an S3-based card like a Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM (Make sure it's an -864, not a -764) or a number-9 or similar. > Lisa Cozzens -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 21:35:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA20711 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 21:35:14 -0700 Received: from kilgour.nething.com (kilgour.nething.com [204.253.210.65]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA20697 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 21:35:09 -0700 Received: from line-38.insync.net (line-38.insync.net [204.253.208.238]) by kilgour.nething.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA06657 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:33:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199508150433.XAA06657@kilgour.nething.com> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:37:44 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: tty vs. cua Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am telneting into a machine, and then running a program (modified version of tip) that opens /dev/cuaa4 and communicates out the serial port. When I run that program, I get a console notice " logged in on ttyd4". Que???? (Spanish for huh?) Why am I getting a login notice for the inbound port, when I am going out (BTW, ttyd4 is NOT in /etc/ttys). Thanks. Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 22:15:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA22315 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:15:54 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA22307 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:15:37 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA05760; Mon, 14 Aug 95 23:06:54 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508150506.AA05760@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 95 23:06:53 MDT Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508150323.MAA23555@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Aug 15, 95 12:53:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > IIRC, the desire was to connect a pile of WfW boxes on a Novell network to > the 'net, not to bridge two Novell networks across the 'net. > > Using IPX/SPX for any part of this is a Bad Idea, on the KISS principle. Unless you go TCP on the WFWG boxes, which is ruled out by the address assignment restrictions, I think the WFWG<-->TCP gateway transactions will be IPX by definition. Anyone ever used AT&T's TAP (TCP Access Program) for LanMan networks running their NetBIOS/OSI stack? This is what is needed, except it wants to front end as if it were plain vanilla WinSock. I did some code for this for the NetWare for UNIX product at Novell as a personal project, but it was never picked up (it competed with the former Excellan's similar product). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 22:22:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA22709 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:22:53 -0700 Received: from emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp [157.80.23.41]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA22702 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:22:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199508150522.WAA22702@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Received: from tao.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp by emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA00404; Tue, 15 Aug 95 14:18:08 +0900 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:23:15 +0900 To: questions@freebsd.org From: wada@emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (Wada, Tatsuaki/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCT0JFRBsoQg==?=) Subject: [Help]Can not boot from boot.flp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD users, My Gateway 2000 P5-60, AMI BIOS, WD IDE HD, Mitsumi CD-ROM, shows the following problem: It does not boot from both the 2.0.5-950622-SNAP and 2.1.0-SNAP boot floppy, while the machine do boot from the 2.0.5R boot.flp. After it tried to read the foloppy and beeped, the cursol was just blinking and no message! What should I do? Please help me. -- $B!!!!!!!!0q>kBg3X9)3XIt!!EE5$EE;R9)3X2J!!OBED(B $BC#L@(B $B!!!!!!(Bvoice: (0294) 38-5110 (dial in) $B!!!!!!(B e-mail: wada@ee.ibaraki.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 22:41:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA23848 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:41:58 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA23841 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:41:50 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA24134; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:42:45 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508150612.PAA24134@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:42:45 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508150506.AA05760@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Aug 14, 95 11:06:53 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1296 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > IIRC, the desire was to connect a pile of WfW boxes on a Novell network to > > the 'net, not to bridge two Novell networks across the 'net. > > > > Using IPX/SPX for any part of this is a Bad Idea, on the KISS principle. > > Unless you go TCP on the WFWG boxes, which is ruled out by the address > assignment restrictions, I think the WFWG<-->TCP gateway transactions > will be IPX by definition. Um. What address restrictions? If the IP all happens on a private network and everything is proxied, what assignment restrictions are there? > running their NetBIOS/OSI stack? This is what is needed, except it > wants to front end as if it were plain vanilla WinSock. You can do this with the standard WfW stack, even mixing NetBEUI and IP on the same wire from the same machine. Why involve any more complication than is actually necessary? > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 22:56:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA24596 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:56:50 -0700 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com (emout04.mail.aol.com [198.81.10.12]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA24586 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:56:48 -0700 From: Fgaii@aol.com Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA092645948; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 01:52:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 01:52:28 -0400 Message-Id: <950815015227_74818197@aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Update 4.3 BSD manuals to 4.4? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does the USENIX Association offer updates from v 4.3 to 4.4 for the set of manuals? Where are they located? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 23:17:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA25339 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:17:04 -0700 Received: from crow.ctc.edu (crow.ctc.edu [134.39.180.20]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA25322 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:17:01 -0700 Received: (from chris@localhost) by crow.ctc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA00718; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:08:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Coleman To: Arabinda Bose cc: hackers@FreeBsd.org, questions@FreeBsd.org, abose@sceptre.arrowsmith.com Subject: Re: Problem during FreeBSD installation In-Reply-To: <199508141430.HAA18594@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBsd.org Precedence: bulk Dos, (hate to stoop so low) has an undocumented feature on fdisk. Fdisk /bootmgr (I think i have the switch right) will fix the problem you are having with the boot sector of you disk. it will rewrite your bootmanager. I hope this works for you. Chris Coleman Chris@crow.ctc.edu Lost in Space and Loving it. On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Arabinda Bose wrote: > Hi, > I have a FreeBSD 2.0, released in Jan 1994. I had DOS/WINDOWS > installed on my Pentium 90MHZ and I blew up my hard disk > boot code during the installation of Free BSD. Could anyone > please help. > > I partitioned my hard disk for DOS (400 Meg) and kept 412 Meg > for BSD. I installed the DOS on the machine first and then > started installing FreeBSD from the boot diskette. > I went through the partioning of file systems fine, allocated > swap space on 'b' and fixed the mount points for /, /usr, etc > and did "Proceed". It said, this will erase your hard disk, > proceed Y/N, I did a Yes and then it asked to reboot. After > the reboot, it came up with two options > F1 DOS > F2 FreeBSD > Nothing happened when I press F1 or F2. > > I deleted the BSD and tried to install DOS again but it gave the > similar prompt(F1 DOS, F2 FreeBSD) during the reboot. I guess my > boot record on the hard disk has got corrupted. Can you tell me > how to get back again if I want to change my boot program on the > harddrive ? > > I tried to format the "C" drive, it didn't help. > > Thanks in advane > > -- Arabinda Bose > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 23:18:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA25484 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:18:29 -0700 Received: from beta.tricity.wsu.edu (beta.tricity.wsu.edu [192.31.216.9]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA25469 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:18:24 -0700 Received: by beta.tricity.wsu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15397; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:18:18 -0700 Message-Id: <9508150618.AA15397@beta.tricity.wsu.edu> Subject: TIN news reader?!? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Smith" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 446 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Would somebody happen to know just where the heck I can get ahold of the tin news reader? I've been looking around various sources for the last, oh, 4 days or so and can't find it. Thanks in advance Mark -- ========================================================================= UNIX IS user friendly, it's just very choosy about who it calls a friend! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Aug 14 23:20:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA25705 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:20:27 -0700 Received: from crow.ctc.edu (crow.ctc.edu [134.39.180.20]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA25692 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:20:14 -0700 Received: (from chris@localhost) by crow.ctc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA00744; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:13:29 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Coleman To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dual Pentium Support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does Anyone Know If FreeBSD Can Run On A Dual Pentium 133 MHZ System? Thanks, Chris Coleman Chris@crow.ctc.edu Lost in Space and Loving it. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 00:02:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA26642 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:02:14 -0700 Received: from typhoon.dstc.qut.edu.au (typhoon.dstc.qut.edu.au [131.181.71.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA26630 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:02:00 -0700 Received: from thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au (sammut@thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au [131.181.71.1]) by typhoon.dstc.qut.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id RAA20352 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:01:50 +1000 Received: (from sammut@localhost) by thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA02252 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:01:49 +1000 From: Andrew Sammut Message-Id: <199508150701.RAA02252@thunder.dstc.qut.edu.au> Subject: Future Domain TMC-950? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:01:49 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1282 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings FreeBSD people, I have just been converted to FreeBSD(v2.0.5). One of the machines which I am attempting to install it on has a Future Domain TMC-950 SCSI Host Adapter. This adapter is listed in the supported hardware section of the FAQ(Handbook, etc), yet I cannot seem to get it to be recognised by any boot floppy. My question is, Can, and how do I install FreeBSD on a machine with the above mentioned adapter? Or do I just forget about it and move on to the next pc? Anxiously awaiting answers, andrew -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ * __ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ Tony Banks, Phil Collins, | * /| \| || \ | \ | || \ / \ || / \ Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, | * || __ ||-] |\ \| ||-] \=\ || \=\ Michael Rutherford | * \|_|| ||_/ | \_| ||_/ \_/ || \_/ | * They'll never see the likes of us again | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ * Andrew Sammut sammut@dstc.qut.edu.au * Sys Admin / Guru / General Nice Guy * Distributed Systems Technology Centre phone: +61 7 864 5136 * Queensland University of Technology fax: +61 7 864 1282 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 00:24:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA27545 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:24:47 -0700 Received: from btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.8.29]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA27496 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:24:21 -0700 Received: from btp1x5 (btp1x5.phy.uni-bayreuth.de) by btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (4.1/btr0x1 (UBTGW/btr0x1-2.4.7)) id AA24010; Tue, 15 Aug 95 09:23:57 +0200 Received: by btp1x5; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1216PM) id AA10272; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:27:56 +0100 From: griessl Message-Id: <9508150827.AA10272@btp1x5> Subject: Re: Problem during FreeBSD install To: axb00@arrowsmith.com Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:27:56 +0100 (WET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 69 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "fdisk /mbr" (means master boot record) fixes your problem ! Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 00:34:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA27975 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:34:55 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA27969 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 00:34:53 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA17532 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:37:47 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 10:38:53 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: ** How to patch a package source (wu-ftpd) ** Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am sorry if this is a FAQ, but I did not find the answer. I did load wu-ftpd from ports directory. It contains patches to some wu-ftpd. Is it mentioned in the Makefile (MASTER_SITES=ftp://ftp.wustl.edu/packages/wuarchive-ftpd/) It seems that pure patch (patc < thefiles) cannot make the correct sources (there is some script for it), is there some tool to make patches correctly into the src? Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 03:17:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA14126 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:17:58 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA14069 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:17:47 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id MAA08701 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 12:16:23 +0200 Received: from (roberto@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) id MAA06345 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 12:16:22 +0200 From: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Message-Id: <199508151016.MAA06345@blaise.ibp.fr> Subject: Re: Problem during FreeBSD installation To: chris@crow.ctc.edu (Chris Coleman) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 12:16:22 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: axb00@arrowsmith.com, hackers@FreeBsd.org, questions@FreeBsd.org, abose@sceptre.arrowsmith.com In-Reply-To: from "Chris Coleman" at Aug 14, 95 11:08:43 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#880 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 355 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Dos, (hate to stoop so low) has an undocumented feature on fdisk. > > Fdisk /bootmgr (I think i have the switch right) will fix the problem you Almost :-) Actually it is "fdisk /mbr" for Master Boot Record. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #5: Fri Jul 14 12:28:04 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 03:49:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA16299 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:49:10 -0700 Received: from aerodyne.technion.ac.il (aerodyne.technion.ac.il [132.68.147.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA16288 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:48:49 -0700 Received: (aerygis@localhost) by aerodyne.technion.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6) id NAA38212; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:47:41 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:47:41 +0200 (WET) From: Yuri Gindin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to label the rest of the disk ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sometime ago I asked this question, but haven't got no replies. What happens? It was possible to make label under 2.0 using disklabel and also using boot diskette. Now in 2.0.5, 2.1 we have different slices, so how can I make new slice from within existing FreeBSD partition ? Any help will be appreciated. The original mail follows: Cheers, Yuri. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hello all, I currently try to label the rest of my disk WD 1223 MB EIDE the fist slice /dev/wd0s1 is 50 MB (DOS) the second is /dev/wd0s2 is 500MB (FreeBSD) and the rest is empty. First I tried to make it with a boot.flp but it wants the partition to be / (Additional FreeBSD slice) after that it says that FreeBSD Boot manager doesn't allows to boot from this point. I also tried to label it with disklabel, but no success, see the log: Script started on Thu Aug 3 10:11:32 1995 yuri@beard:~ 101 > disklabel wd0 # /dev/rwd0c: type: ESDI disk: wd0s2 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 16 sectors/cylinder: 1008 cylinders: 1015 sectors/unit: 1023120 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 61440 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 60*) b: 102400 61440 swap # (Cyl. 60*- 162*) c: 1023120 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 1014) e: 143360 163840 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 162*- 304*) f: 715920 307200 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 304*- 1014*) Warning, revolutions/minute 0 super block size 0 yuri@beard:~ 102 > df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 29727 13235 14113 48% / /dev/wd0s2e 68735 55032 8204 87% /usr /dev/wd0s2f 347095 273484 45843 86% /usr/local /dev/wd0s1 52264 46710 5554 89% /dos /dev/wd1s4a 15719 10787 4146 72% /old /dev/wd1s4e 295743 239229 41726 85% /usr1 procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc yuri@beard:~ 103 > ls -l /dev/wd0s3* brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262146 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3 brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262144 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3a brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262145 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3b brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262146 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3c brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262147 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3d brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262148 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3e brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262149 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3f brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262150 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3g brw-r----- 1 root operator 0, 262151 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/wd0s3h # disklabel -w -r /dev/rwd0s3 fuji513 foo disklabel: /dev/rwd0s3: No such file or directory # ls -l /dev/rwd0s3* crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262146 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3 crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262144 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3a crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262145 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3b crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262146 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3c crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262147 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3d crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262148 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3e crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262149 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3f crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262150 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3g crw-r----- 1 root operator 3, 262151 Aug 2 19:50 /dev/rwd0s3h # disklabel -w -r /dev/rwd0s3a fuji513 foo disklabel: /dev/rwd0s3a: Invalid argument any suggestions ? Thanks in advance, Best Regards, /-----------------------------------------------------------------\ | \\ Yuri Gindin http://www.xpert.com/~yuri | | \\ // || Home: +972-4-282475 | | \\ // ___ ___ ___||__ Work: +972-4-545259 | | \// / --\ / --\ / --||-- Internet | | //\ || \\// __/ || || S/W Development | | // \\ ||__//\\____ || \\__ Network Integration | | ==//===\\||======================= System Administration | \---------\||-------UNIX Systems LTD------------------------------/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 03:54:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA16530 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:54:25 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA16524 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 03:54:22 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA20989 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:57:19 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:58:27 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: *** should -alldirs work in /etc/exports ?? *** Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I did try to use -alldirs in /etc/exports but no success (FreeBSD 2.0.5R) No luck with the /etc/netgroup definitions neither: 1) --------------------------------------------- /etc/exports: /usr/local/ftp/pub -alldirs I am getting: Aug 15 12:51:08 kaarna mountd[78]: Could not remount /usr/local/ftp/pub: Invalid argument Aug 15 12:51:08 kaarna mountd[78]: Bad exports list line /usr/local/ftp/pub 2) --------------------------------------------- /etc/exports: /usr/local/ftp/pub -alldirs anonftp with the line anonftp (,,) in /etc/netgroups and mountd core dumps Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 04:26:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA17560 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:26:22 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA17554 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:26:20 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA21603 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:29:16 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:30:20 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: *** locks in NFS, does FreeBSD have them *** Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Our Solaris system is complaining about FreeBSD nfs not using locks. Is this an error in communication, or is it so that FreeBSD has no locks and data in exported partion can be corrupted if bouth nfs user and local user are updating data? Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 04:53:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA18272 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:53:20 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA18264 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:53:01 -0700 Received: from gundula.cs.tu-berlin.de (diameter@gundula.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.26.38]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA28683 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:50:34 +0200 From: Jan Sladky Received: (diameter@localhost) by gundula.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA27779 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:50:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199508151150.NAA27779@gundula.cs.tu-berlin.de> Subject: shared lib problem To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 13:50:29 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, Some days ago i installed the FreeBSD snapshot as of march, 22. I compiled a little program and let it run. It terminated immediately with a message: ld.so failed I have set LD_LIBRARY_PATH and used the -L option but it wont run. What is wrong? ... Today i tried to install X11 3.1.1. When i ran the configure option, some program complained: libgcc.261.0: undefined 0 (or something like that) Question: where do i get this lib (i havent seen it in my /usr/lib-directory) ? TIA, Jan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 04:58:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA18441 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:58:39 -0700 Received: from i-2000.com (i-2000.com [204.97.92.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA18435 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:58:38 -0700 Received: by i-2000.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18648; Tue, 15 Aug 95 07:57:39 EDT Message-Id: <9508151157.AA18648@i-2000.com> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: questions@freebsd.org From: Francisco Reyes Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 07:55:10 EST Reply-To: Francisco Reyes Subject: X video modes & adding ports Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How does one change the video mode of X? I read on a FAQ that there is a hot key, but they don't mention which. I have looked on other FAQs and can't find it. When I installed FreeBSD I installed a few additional packages (ie bash). How does one get to the program to install those packages once FreeBsd is installed? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 05:22:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA19141 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 05:22:14 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA19135 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 05:22:12 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA25822; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:23:55 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508151253.WAA25822@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Problem during FreeBSD installation To: roberto@blaise.ibp.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:23:54 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508151016.MAA06345@blaise.ibp.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at Aug 15, 95 12:16:22 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 776 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Ollivier Robert stands accused of saying: > > > Dos, (hate to stoop so low) has an undocumented feature on fdisk. OS/2 documents it 8) > > Fdisk /bootmgr (I think i have the switch right) will fix the problem you > > Almost :-) > > Actually it is "fdisk /mbr" for Master Boot Record. And fdisk /newmbr under OS/2 > Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@FreeBSD.ORG -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 05:33:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA19395 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 05:33:36 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA19389 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 05:33:34 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA25868; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:35:25 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508151305.WAA25868@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: X video modes & adding ports To: freyes@i-2000.com Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:35:24 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508151157.AA18648@i-2000.com> from "Francisco Reyes" at Aug 15, 95 07:55:10 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 815 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Francisco Reyes stands accused of saying: > > How does one change the video mode of X? I read on a FAQ > that there is a hot key, but they don't mention which. I have > looked on other FAQs and can't find it. alt-ctrl-+ (where + is on the keypad) > When I installed FreeBSD I installed a few additional > packages (ie bash). How does one get to the program to install > those packages once FreeBsd is installed? pkg_manage -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 05:42:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA19864 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 05:42:51 -0700 Received: from i-2000.com (i-2000.com [204.97.92.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA19843 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 05:42:45 -0700 Received: by i-2000.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20407; Tue, 15 Aug 95 08:41:45 EDT Message-Id: <9508151241.AA20407@i-2000.com> X-Mailer: Post Road Mailer (Green Edition Ver 1.00) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Francisco Reyes Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:39:16 EST Reply-To: Francisco Reyes Subject: root shell problem Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I was attempting to change my shell for the roo to bash. I left out the initial '/' so I wrote usr/.... instead of /usr.... How can I fix this? I can not log in as root. Is there a way to log in an indicate a shell at the same time? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 06:11:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA21078 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:11:38 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA21071 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:11:36 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA25969; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:13:28 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508151343.XAA25969@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: root shell problem To: freyes@i-2000.com Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:13:28 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9508151241.AA20407@i-2000.com> from "Francisco Reyes" at Aug 15, 95 08:39:16 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 985 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Francisco Reyes stands accused of saying: > > I was attempting to change my shell for the roo to bash. I left > out the initial '/' so I wrote usr/.... instead of /usr.... > > How can I fix this? I can not log in as root. Is there a way to log > in an indicate a shell at the same time? No, that would be a lethal security hole. If you managed to change the shell to something that wasn't listed in /etc/shells you must have been editing /etc/passwd - don't do that! Use 'vipw' to edit the password database. /etc/passwd is only there for compatability - FreeBSD uses a shasow password scheme. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 06:25:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA21818 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:25:28 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA21812 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:25:22 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HU3UXVMZR40062I9@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:25:29 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id PAA12555; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:39:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:39:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: root shell problem In-reply-to: <9508151241.AA20407@i-2000.com> from "Francisco Reyes" at Aug 15, 95 08:39:16 am To: freyes@i-2000.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199508151339.PAA12555@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 540 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I was attempting to change my shell for the roo to bash. I left > out the initial '/' so I wrote usr/.... instead of /usr.... > > How can I fix this? I can not log in as root. Is there a way to log > in an indicate a shell at the same time? > reboot your system in single user mode (at the boot prompt type /kernel -s or hit ^C when the messages 'Automatic reboot in progress appears'). Then edit master.passwd to do the correction and reboot again. > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 06:30:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA22163 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:30:51 -0700 Received: from btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.8.29]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA22154 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:30:38 -0700 Received: from btp1x5 (btp1x5.phy.uni-bayreuth.de) by btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (4.1/btr0x1 (UBTGW/btr0x1-2.4.7)) id AA01039; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:26:10 +0200 Received: by btp1x5; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1216PM) id AA14390; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:30:06 +0100 From: griessl Message-Id: <9508151430.AA14390@btp1x5> Subject: Re: root shell problem To: freyes@i-2000.com Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:30:06 +0100 (WET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9508151241.AA20407@i-2000.com> from "Francisco Reyes" at Aug 15, 95 08:39:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 376 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I was attempting to change my shell for the roo to bash. I left > out the initial '/' so I wrote usr/.... instead of /usr.... > > How can I fix this? I can not log in as root. Is there a way to log > in an indicate a shell at the same time? > Boot your system with -s on the boot prompt (single user) and mount manually the /usr-partition. Then try vipw ! Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 06:55:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA23215 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:55:09 -0700 Received: from btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.8.29]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA23205 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 06:54:56 -0700 Received: from btp1x5 (btp1x5.phy.uni-bayreuth.de) by btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (4.1/btr0x1 (UBTGW/btr0x1-2.4.7)) id AA01433; Tue, 15 Aug 95 15:54:45 +0200 Received: by btp1x5; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1216PM) id AA19074; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:58:45 +0100 From: griessl Message-Id: <9508151458.AA19074@btp1x5> Subject: Re: root shell problem (fwd) To: freyes@i-2000.com Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:58:44 +0100 (WET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 971 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Forwarded message: >From werner Tue Aug 15 15:57:26 1995 From: griessl Message-Id: <9508151457.AA18885@btp1x5> Subject: Re: root shell problem To: werner@btp1x5.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (griessl) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:57:26 +0100 (WET DST) In-Reply-To: <9508151430.AA14390@btp1x5> from "griessl" at Aug 15, 95 03:30:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 487 > > > > > I was attempting to change my shell for the roo to bash. I left > > out the initial '/' so I wrote usr/.... instead of /usr.... > > > > How can I fix this? I can not log in as root. Is there a way to log > > in an indicate a shell at the same time? > > > Boot your system with -s on the boot prompt (single user) I forgot: Do a "mount -u /" here to make the root-partition writable Werner > and mount manually the /usr-partition. > Then try vipw ! > > Werner > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 08:29:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA12551 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:29:18 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA12545 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 08:29:10 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA11469; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:29:05 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id LAA02518; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:29:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 11:28:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Seppo Kallio cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: *** should -alldirs work in /etc/exports ?? *** In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Aug 1995, Seppo Kallio wrote: > > I did try to use -alldirs in /etc/exports but no success (FreeBSD 2.0.5R) > No luck with the /etc/netgroup definitions neither: > > > 1) --------------------------------------------- > /etc/exports: > > /usr/local/ftp/pub -alldirs > > I am getting: > > Aug 15 12:51:08 kaarna mountd[78]: Could not remount /usr/local/ftp/pub: > Invalid argument > Aug 15 12:51:08 kaarna mountd[78]: Bad exports list line /usr/local/ftp/pub > > > 2) --------------------------------------------- > /etc/exports: > > /usr/local/ftp/pub -alldirs anonftp > > with the line > > anonftp (,,) > > in /etc/netgroups > and mountd core dumps The -alldirs works fine for me, but then I don't think you're using it right. I don't have to worry about security (I have a private net), so I export /usr -alldirs, and then often do something like mount the /usr/ports/distfiles over on the other machine. I see, from the expFrom owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 14:19:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA01425 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:19:48 -0700 Received: from mrblue.cmq.qc.ca (mrblue.cmq.qc.ca [204.19.130.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA01391 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:19:36 -0700 Received: from cmq.qc.ca (204.19.130.21) by mrblue.cmq.qc.ca with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:19:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:10:29 -0400 From: LPPelletier@cmq.qc.ca (Luc Pelletier) Organization: Club Macintosh de Quebec Subject: Root password To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <2125827.ensmtp@cmq.qc.ca> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have forget my root password. What can I do to recover from that? Is there some kind of trick? I thought of making some special boot diskette in order to edit the password file. Will that work? How can I make this disquette? Thank you -Lpp P.S. Are you laughing as much as I feel stupid... :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 14:24:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA02089 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:24:26 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA02081 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:24:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199508152124.OAA02081@freefall.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.FreeBSD.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: LPPelletier@cmq.qc.ca (Luc Pelletier) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root password In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Aug 95 17:10:29 EDT." <2125827.ensmtp@cmq.qc.ca> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:24:19 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I have forget my root password. What can I do to recover from that? >Is there some kind of trick? >I thought of making some special boot diskette in order to edit the password >file. >Will that work? How can I make this disquette? > >Thank you -Lpp > >P.S. Are you laughing as much as I feel stupid... :-) At the boot prompt, specify the "-s" flag. This will drop you into single user mode where you can change root's password to what every you want. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 14:29:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA02516 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:29:16 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (lupine.nsi.nasa.gov [198.116.2.100]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA02509 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:29:12 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00846; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:26:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:26:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: Luc Pelletier cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Root password In-Reply-To: <2125827.ensmtp@cmq.qc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Aug 1995, Luc Pelletier wrote: > I have forget my root password. What can I do to recover from that? > Is there some kind of trick? > I thought of making some special boot diskette in order to edit the password > file. > Will that work? How can I make this disquette? Try "-s" at the kernel boot prompt; that will put you in single user mode. You can then use the passwd command to fix the password. > P.S. Are you laughing as much as I feel stupid... :-) Nope. How do you think I found out about the -s flag???? :-)! Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | work: http://www.eco.nsi.nasa.gov/~mnewell | | home: http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 14:30:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA02660 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:30:41 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA02654 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:30:40 -0700 Received: from gvr.win.tue.nl (gvr.win.tue.nl [131.155.210.19]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA17692 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 14:30:34 -0700 Received: by gvr.win.tue.nl (8.6.10/1.53) id XAA24562; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:28:46 +0200 From: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij) Message-Id: <199508152128.XAA24562@gvr.win.tue.nl> Subject: Re: Root password To: LPPelletier@cmq.qc.ca (Luc Pelletier) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:28:45 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2125827.ensmtp@cmq.qc.ca> from "Luc Pelletier" at Aug 15, 95 05:10:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 426 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luc Pelletier wrote: > > I have forget my root password. What can I do to recover from that? > Is there some kind of trick? > I thought of making some special boot diskette in order to edit the password > file. > Will that work? How can I make this disquette? If your console was not made secure, boot single user (with the '-s' option at the FreeBSD boot prompt). Then fsck -p all your disks, mount -a and passwd. -Guido From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 15:27:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA12069 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:27:31 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA12055 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:27:26 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA07736; Tue, 15 Aug 95 16:20:00 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508152220.AA07736@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: *** locks in NFS, does FreeBSD have them *** To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 16:19:59 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Aug 15, 95 02:30:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Our Solaris system is complaining about FreeBSD nfs not using locks. > > Is this an error in communication, or is it so that FreeBSD has no locks > and data in exported partion can be corrupted if bouth nfs user and local > user are updating data? FreeBSD does not have NFS locks (lockd + statd). However, since there is not a coherency protocol in force and your Solaris does client caching, you are in danger of this type of corrupts even going from Solaris to Solaris (this is why Sun recommends mail files always be accessed locally). What are you trying to use this for such that you see an error? Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 15:41:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA13977 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:41:35 -0700 Received: from ns.via.net (ns.via.net [140.174.204.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA13969 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:41:32 -0700 Received: (from joe@localhost) by ns.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA12263 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:41:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 15:41:30 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199508152241.PAA12263@ns.via.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SCO binaries on FreeBSD? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does this work yet? -joe From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 16:25:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA19183 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:25:50 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA19167 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:25:45 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA07797 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 19:25:42 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id TAA09230; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 19:25:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 19:25:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: disk space .... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to get online on CTM, but I have downloading limitations, and the current CTM "A" file is 28.2 megs. Does anyone have that much disk available for 1-2 days (maybe less, I'll lose sleep but at least get it done). What I need is that latest CTM "A" file from freefall, cut into at least 2 pieces (3 would be nicer), and ftp access. Thanks. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 16:28:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA19708 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:28:45 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA19659 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:28:39 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA27027; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:30:36 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508160000.JAA27027@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Exporting a file system to a PC. To: ROBERTC@PII.COM (Robert Clark) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:30:36 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, ROBERTC@smtp.dallas.pii.com In-Reply-To: <3030D621@smtp> from "Robert Clark" at Aug 15, 95 10:15:00 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 801 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Robert Clark stands accused of saying: > What happens, my PC can see the exported portion of the FreeBSD file system, > but I can't map a drive, I get an RPC failure, 'Client credential too > weak'. Interesting - which authorisation is the PC using? > Also, is there an 'exportfs' equivalent on FreeBSD? Read the manual page : kill -HUP `cat /var/run/mountd.pid` (alias it if you like 8) > robert.clark@pii.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 16:39:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA21118 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:39:02 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA21101 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:38:54 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA27070; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:40:33 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508160010.JAA27070@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:40:33 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508151809.AA07134@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Aug 15, 95 12:09:25 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1969 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > Unless you go TCP on the WFWG boxes, which is ruled out by the address > > > assignment restrictions, I think the WFWG<-->TCP gateway transactions > > > will be IPX by definition. > > > > Um. What address restrictions? If the IP all happens on a private network > > and everything is proxied, what assignment restrictions are there? > > Well, I think running the extra stack will take more memory. Yeees... a few hundred K at most. It's a VxD, so despite all it's other faults, when you're not using it it will be swapped out. > I think if there is more than one hop for the NetWare server, it means > buying TCP/IP for all intermediate NetWare servers to get your packets > routed to the gateway. In this scenario, the one for which I was proposing this solution, there is only one ethernet, and only one server. You can also put a _really_ cheesy BSD system beside the Novell server as a TCP bridge; depending on the street price of the Novell TCP stack this may well be cheaper. (I've done this before - a 386sx16 with 4M and a 40M disk and a couple of ethernet cards is a _really_ cheap ethernet bridge.) > Admittedly, if you do an internal net right, you get around the address > space restrictions, but there are still others there. NetWare likes > a heirarchical arrangement of servers, for one thing. What's Netware got to do with anything here? We have a bunch of WfW machines, some string and a Netware box. We want to connect the WfW machines to the 'net, so that people can do netty things. KISS > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 16:41:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA21431 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:41:02 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA21417 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 16:40:57 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA27080; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:43:09 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508160013.JAA27080@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: paul@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:43:09 +0930 (CST) Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508151902.UAA19482@server.netcraft.co.uk> from "Paul Richards" at Aug 15, 95 08:02:07 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1587 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Paul Richards stands accused of saying: > You're getting a little ahead yourself, not unusual :-) > > There's only one netware server and there's only a handfull of > Windows boxes that will need to be tcp/ip enabled. Installing trumpet > winsock on them and using packet drivers will be good enough, using > fake internal ip addresses and running socks or some other proxy service > on the FreeBSD box will do the trick. This is for a relatively small > office where they want a small group of staff to have email/WWW access > from their windows boxes across a common modem connection. You're going to try to share the ethernet card between a real-mode packet driver and the Windows ethernet drivers? You're off to a bad start already, but this is really suboptimal unless I'm seriously missing something about your netware setup... > This isn't for an university service, but having recently left an > university where they did exactly this (run IP and IPX traffic on the > same wire) I can confirm that it's a really sub-optimal thing to do. Indeedy. UofA do it, and they spend a fortune on routers keeping it in its place. > Paul Richards, Bluebird Computer Systems. FreeBSD core team member. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 17:15:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA25546 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:15:30 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA25540 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:15:28 -0700 Received: from nietzsche (annex1s12.urc.tue.nl [131.155.12.22]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id RAA16246 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:15:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA13898; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:04:50 +0200 Message-Id: <199508152304.BAA13898@nietzsche> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: davidg@Root.COM cc: Marc van Kempen , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: funny network speeds In-reply-to: davidg's message of Wed, 09 Aug 1995 19:06:53 -0700. <199508100206.TAA00447@corbin.Root.COM> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:04:49 +0200 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >I notice a strange difference in the network speed, wether > >I upload something with ftp, or download it. > ... > >WD8013EPC (zola) > ... > >3c509 (nietzsche) > > Interesting...I don't know off hand where the problem is, but it appears to > be dropping packets. If you could look at the netstat -i statistics on both > machines, this would help. netstat -s might also help. > > -DG I installed 2.0.5 on nietzsche to see if it made a difference. Both are 2.0.5 now. Performance seems to be a little bit better now, but fluctuates more. ftp'ing from zola to nietzsche still gives the worst performance, but fluctuates between 100k/s and 500k/s. When I look at the flow of the hashmarks, then going from zola->nietzsche there is still a break in the flow, going from nietzsche->zola the flow is steady. Here's the output from netstat -i after the kernel has been copied between the two machines several times (10-20 times): nietzsche: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 00.00.c0.40.9c.56 9441 0 7811 0 25 ed0 1500 192.168.1 nietzsche 9441 0 7811 0 25 lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 379 0 379 0 0 lo0 16384 your-net localhost 379 0 379 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 tun0* 1500 2741 0 2900 0 0 zola: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 ep0 1500 00.20.af.27.6e.66 151904 0 110125 3 0 ep0 1500 192.168.1 zola 151904 0 110125 3 0 lo0 16384 730 0 730 0 0 lo0 16384 your-net localhost 730 0 730 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 tun0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 and the output from netstat -s nietzsche: ip: 12569 total packets received 0 bad header checksums 0 with size smaller than minimum 0 with data size < data length 0 with header length < data size 0 with data length < header length 0 with bad options 0 with incorrect version number 0 fragments received 0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space) 0 fragments dropped after timeout 0 packets reassembled ok 12397 packets for this host 172 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol 0 packets forwarded 0 packets not forwardable 0 redirects sent 11540 packets sent from this host 0 packets sent with fabricated ip header 0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc. 440 output packets discarded due to no route 0 output datagrams fragmented 0 fragments created 0 datagrams that can't be fragmented icmp: 174 calls to icmp_error 0 errors not generated 'cuz old message was icmp Output histogram: destination unreachable: 174 0 messages with bad code fields 0 messages < minimum length 0 bad checksums 0 messages with bad length Input histogram: echo reply: 5 destination unreachable: 171 0 message responses generated igmp: 0 messages received 0 messages received with too few bytes 0 messages received with bad checksum 0 membership queries received 0 membership queries received with invalid field(s) 0 membership reports received 0 membership reports received with invalid field(s) 0 membership reports received for groups to which we belong 0 membership reports sent tcp: 10673 packets sent 4876 data packets (6074172 bytes) 37 data packets (4078 bytes) retransmitted 2386 ack-only packets (2038 delayed) 0 URG only packets 0 window probe packets 3246 window update packets 205 control packets 12170 packets received 2628 acks (for 6074207 bytes) 160 duplicate acks 0 acks for unsent data 9624 packets (12683906 bytes) received in-sequence 130 completely duplicate packets (47037 bytes) 0 old duplicate packets 4 packets with some dup. data (59 bytes duped) 14 out-of-order packets (0 bytes) 0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window 0 window probes 209 window update packets 5 packets received after close 0 discarded for bad checksums 0 discarded for bad header offset fields 0 discarded because packet too short 110 connection requests 61 connection accepts 102 connections established (including accepts) 236 connections closed (including 3 drops) 2 embryonic connections dropped 2601 segments updated rtt (of 2616 attempts) 66 retransmit timeouts 2 connections dropped by rexmit timeout 0 persist timeouts 0 keepalive timeouts 0 keepalive probes sent 0 connections dropped by keepalive 625 correct ACK header predictions 9011 correct data packet header predictions 0 PCB cache misses udp: 223 datagrams received 0 with incomplete header 0 with bad data length field 0 with bad checksum 174 dropped due to no socket 0 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket 0 dropped due to full socket buffers 49 delivered 588 datagrams output zola: ip: 152612 total packets received 0 bad header checksums 0 with size smaller than minimum 7 with data size < data length 0 with header length < data size 0 with data length < header length 0 with bad options 0 with incorrect version number 21016 fragments received 0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space) 2 fragments dropped after timeout 3531 packets reassembled ok 134783 packets for this host 337 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol 0 packets forwarded 0 packets not forwardable 0 redirects sent 109944 packets sent from this host 0 packets sent with fabricated ip header 0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc. 0 output packets discarded due to no route 696 output datagrams fragmented 989 fragments created 0 datagrams that can't be fragmented icmp: 336 calls to icmp_error 0 errors not generated 'cuz old message was icmp Output histogram: destination unreachable: 336 0 messages with bad code fields 0 messages < minimum length 0 bad checksums 0 messages with bad length Input histogram: echo reply: 2 destination unreachable: 337 0 message responses generated igmp: 0 messages received 0 messages received with too few bytes 0 messages received with bad checksum 0 membership queries received 0 membership queries received with invalid field(s) 0 membership reports received 0 membership reports received with invalid field(s) 0 membership reports received for groups to which we belong 0 membership reports sent tcp: 99897 packets sent 84099 data packets (65215970 bytes) 2 data packets (1980 bytes) retransmitted 13624 ack-only packets (13551 delayed) 1 URG only packet 49 window probe packets 2032 window update packets 90 control packets 118509 packets received 80347 acks (for 65215185 bytes) 36 duplicate acks 0 acks for unsent data 39439 packets (8618339 bytes) received in-sequence 5 completely duplicate packets (864 bytes) 0 old duplicate packets 0 packets with some dup. data (0 bytes duped) 54 out-of-order packets (1240 bytes) 1 packet (0 bytes) of data after window 0 window probes 984 window update packets 0 packets received after close 0 discarded for bad checksums 0 discarded for bad header offset fields 0 discarded because packet too short 52 connection requests 14 connection accepts 59 connections established (including accepts) 66 connections closed (including 2 drops) 6 embryonic connections dropped 80347 segments updated rtt (of 62989 attempts) 2 retransmit timeouts 0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout 0 persist timeouts 6 keepalive timeouts 0 keepalive probes sent 0 connections dropped by keepalive 32212 correct ACK header predictions 15545 correct data packet header predictions 0 PCB cache misses udp: 16273 datagrams received 0 with incomplete header 0 with bad data length field 0 with bad checksum 336 dropped due to no socket 0 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket 17 dropped due to full socket buffers 15920 delivered 9703 datagrams output Thanks for looking this far, Marc. ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl He's dead Jim ..., kick him if you don't believe me. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 17:57:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA26496 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:57:28 -0700 Received: from emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp [157.80.23.41]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA26490 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 17:57:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199508160057.RAA26490@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Received: from tao.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp by emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01481; Wed, 16 Aug 95 09:52:57 +0900 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:58:05 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: wada@emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (Wada, Tatsuaki/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCT0JFRBsoQg==?=) Subject: [Help]Can not boot from boot.flp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have now used FreeBSD 2.0.5R on my Gateway 2000 P5-60, AMI BIOS, WD IDE HD, Mitsumi CD-ROM. But it shows the following problem: It does not boot from both the 2.0.5-950622-SNAP and 2.1.0-SNAP boot floppy, while the machine do boot from the 2.0.5R boot.flp. After it tried to read the foloppy and beeped, the cursol was just blinking and no message! I've found the same kind of questions on comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc NG. But no solution was found! Any comment or sugestion is welcome. Please help me. Thanks, -- Tatsuaki Wada Dept. Electrical and Electronic Engineering Ibaraki University 4-12-1 Nakanarusawa, Hitachi, 316, Japan. e-mail: wada@ee.ibaraki.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 19:38:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA28432 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 19:38:50 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA28425 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 19:38:47 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA08347; Tue, 15 Aug 95 20:30:50 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508160230.AA08347@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 20:30:49 MDT Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508160010.JAA27070@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Aug 16, 95 09:40:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Um. What address restrictions? If the IP all happens on a private network > > > and everything is proxied, what assignment restrictions are there? > > > > Well, I think running the extra stack will take more memory. > > Yeees... a few hundred K at most. It's a VxD, so despite all it's other > faults, when you're not using it it will be swapped out. Huh? Maybe I'm corrupted by Win95, but... Most VxDs like to be pinned if they are going to be taking interrupts: #pragma code_seg("_LTEXT", "LCODE") #pragma data_seg("_LDATA", "LCODE") I think you are thinking the default: #pragma code_seg("_PTEXT", "PCODE") #pragma data_seg("_PDATA", "PDATA") Which is usually overruled in the linker .DEF file anyway, and is forced to be locked. You might use something like this for a split queue in/out serail driver, if you wanted to take the speed hit. The only other option is really: #pragma code_seg("_ITEXT", "ICODE") #pragma data_seg("_IDATA", "ICODE") Which is used for the real mode init system message and is unloaded immediately by the default loader (or by the VPE loader VXDLDR.VXD), #pragma code_seg("_STEXT", "SCODE") #pragma data_seg("_SDATA", "SCODE") Which are static segments used for things like the callback tables registered with IFSMgr_RegisterMount(), which is too stupid to be able to deregister code, so you have to leave it there in case it gets called back into, and #pragma code_seg("_DBOCODE", "DBOCODE") #pragma data_seg("_DBODATA", "DBOCODE") Which are only there for debug versions of the VxDs (and are locked too). The main advantage of a VxD is that it can live in high memory, not that it's typically pageable (especially a VxD for a network driver that gets called as a result of IFSMgr requests to a registered interface by way of IFSMgr_RegisterNet()). Net and file system VxD's are very, very different. Anyway, it's been pointed out that you aren't using a multihop Novell NetWork from the clients to the gateway, so it's really a moot point at best. Happy sailing, Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 22:38:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA08344 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:38:04 -0700 Received: from slip-1.slip.net (slip-1.slip.net [204.160.88.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA08338 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:38:01 -0700 Received: from w#a÷O' (crc1-fddi.cris.com [199.3.12.161]) by slip-1.slip.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA17808 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:37:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199508160537.WAA17808@slip-1.slip.net> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 95 22:37:10 -0700 From: Francisco Rosa Organization: Rosa & Sons X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD & Me Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I recently tried to install a unix type OS on my system. 486dx33, 8 meg ram, 2 gigs hard, adaptec AIC 6360, cardinal fax modem, mustek scanner, trident video, ide cntrlr, digidesign hard disk recording system with scsi cntrlr, and a Pinnacle micro CD-r. Neither Linux nor FreeBSD have been able to boot my system. I believe it is the digidesign card that is interfereing with the boot. I have the whole system working in Dos. How do I get it to work without pulling cards out? Is there anything that can be done to the source code? Your help would be appreciated. Thanks, Frank D. Rosa Francisco_Rosa@vval.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 22:44:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA08653 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:44:43 -0700 Received: from kilgour.nething.com (kilgour.nething.com [204.253.210.65]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA08647 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:44:40 -0700 Received: from line-3.insync.net (line-3.insync.net [204.253.208.203]) by kilgour.nething.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA10444 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:43:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199508160543.AAA10444@kilgour.nething.com> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 00:47:18 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: Giving rlogins priority on bandwidth Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have one FreeBSD machine with three terminals rlogin'ing into another FreeBSD machine using a 14.4 modem to an ISP and a 28.8 to another ISP. I noticed when I did an ftp, the rlogin sessions got REALLY slow. I realize that the ftp was also an interactive process and got the same priority. My question is: what happens when I print from one machine to another??? (Haven't gotten printing set up yet to test, and I got worried.) Can I define something that will make the lpd data take a back seat on bandwidth? Or is this already in place somehow? If so, how? (just curious). Thanks. Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 22:58:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA09314 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:58:39 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA09303 ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 22:58:34 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA27754; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:59:59 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508160629.PAA27754@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Netware gateway. To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:59:59 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, paul@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508160230.AA08347@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at Aug 15, 95 08:30:49 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1304 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > > Um. What address restrictions? If the IP all happens on a private network > > > > and everything is proxied, what assignment restrictions are there? > > > > > > Well, I think running the extra stack will take more memory. > > > > Yeees... a few hundred K at most. It's a VxD, so despite all it's other > > faults, when you're not using it it will be swapped out. > > Huh? Maybe I'm corrupted by Win95, but... > > Most VxDs like to be pinned if they are going to be taking interrupts: My understanding was that it didn't take interrupts; but I'm certainly not in a position to be sure about that 8) > Anyway, it's been pointed out that you aren't using a multihop > Novell NetWork from the clients to the gateway, so it's really > a moot point at best. Agreed, but your observations on alternate contingencies have been educational. Thanks. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 23:03:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA09573 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:03:56 -0700 Received: from sdphu3.ucsd.edu (sdphu3.ucsd.edu [132.239.69.24]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA09565 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:03:53 -0700 Received: by sdphu3.ucsd.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01503; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:04:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:03:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher P Lund Reply-To: Christopher P Lund Subject: An installation question To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I hate to be a bother on what is likely a straightforward question, but I am at wits end on this matter. I am relatively new to UNIX systems and completely new to FreeBSD. I want to install FreeBSD on a second partition on my hard drive (1 Gig WD drive, Pentium-90 system). I got the bin files and the floppies files for release 2.0.5. I put the bin files in c:\freebsd\bin (I also tried c:\freebsd, I wasn't clear on the matter), the floppies files in c:\freebsd\floppies, and used rawrite to put boot.flp on a floppy disk. I booted from the disk, used the setup program to create the partition, setup slices, chose the "User" install, "DOS Partition" media, and committed. Everything appeared to be going fine when I got the message "Failed to load the ROOT distribution. Please correct this problem and try again." My only other clue as to what was going on was when I tried to quit. My understanding of root.flp is that it is a gzipped file. From what I could decipher on the screen, it appears that a problem occured in attempting to unpack this file. Like I said at the beginning, I hate to be a bother on this matter. I looked through the various FAQs and notes and, failing to find an answer, this seemed to be the best place to write. Help would be appreciated. Thank you. - Christopher Lund From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 23:35:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA11018 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:35:34 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA11012 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:35:32 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA27900; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:37:15 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508160707.QAA27900@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: An installation question To: clund@sdphu3.ucsd.edu Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:37:15 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Christopher P Lund" at Aug 15, 95 11:03:40 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2164 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christopher P Lund stands accused of saying: > > I hate to be a bother on what is likely a straightforward question, but I No bother - that's what this list is all about... > am at wits end on this matter. I am relatively new to UNIX systems and > completely new to FreeBSD. I want to install FreeBSD on a second > partition on my hard drive (1 Gig WD drive, Pentium-90 system). I got the > bin files and the floppies files for release 2.0.5. I put the bin files in > c:\freebsd\bin (I also tried c:\freebsd, I wasn't clear on the matter), the > floppies files in c:\freebsd\floppies, and used rawrite to put boot.flp on freebsd\bin and freebsd\floppies is right. 1G disk - are you using Disk Manager or something similar? > a floppy disk. I booted from the disk, used the setup program to create the > partition, setup slices, chose the "User" install, "DOS Partition" media, and > committed. Everything appeared to be going fine when I got the message > "Failed to load the ROOT distribution. > Please correct this problem and try again." In the options menu, enable the Extra Debugging flag, and when you get this error, hit Alt-F2 to swap to the debugging screen, and see if there's anything there that looks helpful. You can hit ScrollLock and use the cursor keys to scroll back up and look at what happened previously as well. > My only other clue as to what was going on was when I tried to quit. My > understanding of root.flp is that it is a gzipped file. From what I could > decipher on the screen, it appears that a problem occured in attempting to > unpack this file. Without the exact error message, I can't help more on that. > Help would be appreciated. Thank you. Not a problem; we'll get you sorted, I hope 8) > - Christopher Lund -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" - Terry Lambert [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Aug 15 23:41:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA11241 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:41:34 -0700 Received: from ix5.ix.netcom.com (ix5.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA11235 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:41:32 -0700 Received: from by ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id XAA02607; Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:38:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 23:38:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199508160638.XAA02607@ix5.ix.netcom.com> From: fadorno@ix.netcom.com (Fred Adorno ) Subject: Printer acting up again To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Sean, it's me again. I don't know what happened to cause the laser printer to act up again. If you recall, it was only printing one line of ASCII then it would form feed forever. Well, it is doing it again. I erased a file named "lpt0" that was in my root dir. I did a cat to see why it was there. It just contained the ASCII printout I guess from the last time. Anyway here is the printcap once again, along with the shell "lpf" and what the error messgage in lpd-errs was. Printcap reads: lp|epson|action|laser|Epson Actionlaser 1500:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0=var/spool/lpd/epson:mx#0:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/lpf:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: "lpf" shell reads: #!/bin/sh printf "/033&k2G" exec /bin/cat lpd-errs read: lpd [142]: cannot execv /usr/libexec/lpr/#!/bin/sh What should I do? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 01:47:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA14972 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:47:17 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA14964 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:47:05 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HU4Z1DSTZK0075WH@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:33:38 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id KAA14243; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:47:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:47:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: FreeBSD & Me In-reply-to: <199508160537.WAA17808@slip-1.slip.net> from "Francisco Rosa" at Aug 15, 95 10:37:10 pm To: Francisco_Rosa@vval.com (Francisco Rosa) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199508160847.KAA14243@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 1131 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, I recently tried to install a unix type OS on my system. 486dx33, 8 meg ram, > 2 gigs hard, adaptec AIC 6360, cardinal fax modem, mustek scanner, trident video, > ide cntrlr, digidesign hard disk recording system with scsi cntrlr, and a Pinnacle > micro CD-r. Neither Linux nor FreeBSD have been able to boot my system. I believe > it is the digidesign card that is interfereing with the boot. I have the whole > system working in Dos. How do I get it to work without pulling cards out? Is there > anything that can be done to the source code? Your help would be appreciated. How far did you get? Did the boot.flp boot and did you get to the install menu? You can try to disable as many devices as necessary down to a minimum (like your hard disk and network card, cdrom or whatever you need) by typing /kernel -c possibly one of the card probes is confusing some of your devices. Also some probes (wd) take a while before timing out. So tell us what exactly happens. > > Thanks, > Frank D. Rosa > Francisco_Rosa@vval.com > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 01:56:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA15343 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:56:08 -0700 Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA15334 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:55:55 -0700 Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA03017 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:55:45 +0200 From: Thomas Gellekum Message-Id: <199508160855.KAA03017@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: 1505 supported? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:55:44 +0200 (MET DST) Organization: Institut f. Hochfrequenztechnik, RWTH Aachen X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 216 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Moin moin, we have to replace one IDE disk here. Since it is unlikely that we get the money for a 1542 (don't ask), we have the choice between an IDE disk and a SCSI disk + Adaptec 1505 kit. Is this supported? tg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 03:39:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA18482 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 03:39:24 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA18476 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 03:39:21 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA20934 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:42:23 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:43:27 +0300 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I am very dissapointed: Adding second SCSI disk drive to the FreeBSD system seems to be very complicated! I did first try the installation floppy: Everyting seems to go fine, execpt the fact that I could not get the installation to write the fdisk and partition data into the disk. I had to go to fdisk + disklabel etc. and it is really oldfashioned and complicated. The installation is writing the data only after software instalation, but I do not have any need to FreeBSD software on my second disk. And installation does not install if I do not have root (and swap?) on the new disk. Is one solution to make new disk with root partition only and install some minimal system on it? I did look for FAQ:s and the FreeBSD Documentation project. No help with the problem! The DocProject has nothing on the WWW-page: "9.2. * Adding and reconfiguring disks" "http://freefall.freebsd.org/How/handbook/handbook-65.html#88" 1. Why does not the installation (fdisk and disklabel) have a W command to force the data to the disk. 2. How is it possible that this is not a FAQ? Seppo PS. There was some Linux users looking over my shoulder, they had really fun. -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 04:38:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA19788 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:38:18 -0700 Received: from husky.cslab.vt.edu (husky.cs.vt.edu [128.173.41.87]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA19782 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 04:38:16 -0700 Received: (ceharris@localhost) by husky.cslab.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) id HAA24852 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:38:09 -0400 From: Carl Harris Message-Id: <199508161138.HAA24852@husky.cslab.vt.edu> Subject: pcvt on boot diskette To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:38:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1277 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan's help in puzzling out the steps required to build a custom release did the trick -- I now have a 2.0.5 release with all the device support we need for our site. Thanks, much, Jordan! Now on to the point of this message... I'm having difficulty making a boot diskette that uses the pcvt console driver (using scanset 2 for our laptops). Actually, making the diskette was no problem -- booting from it is a different story. The kernel loads normally, but when it finishes decompressing and prints "done", the machine immediately reboots. If I go back into my CHROOTDIR, and change the config to use the sc console device and run another 'make floppies', it works just fine. I would suspect it was just something flaky about our laptops (Thinkpad 755C), but the same results occur on desktop machines. Has anyone else seen this behavior? -- Carl Harris Systems Engineer Department of Computer Science, Virginia Tech ceharris@cs.vt.edu P.S. I should also note that I saw a post from someone in the ...freebsd.misc newsgroup group who had made a boot floppy for the Thinkpad available via ftp. I got that floppy image and tried it, and it does in fact work. However, it won't do for my needs since it was from a recent snapshot (i.e. not 2.0.5-R). From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 05:52:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA22153 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 05:52:40 -0700 Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [199.171.26.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA22145 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 05:52:38 -0700 Received: from FISHKILL by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1175; Wed, 16 Aug 95 08:52:36 EDT Received: by FISHKILL (XAGENTA 4.0) id 0173; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:52:34 -0400 Received: by belgium.fishkill.ibm.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA28784; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:52:15 -0400 Message-Id: <9508161252.AA28784@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: (Your message of Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:10:35 EST.) <9508141710.AA21694@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 08:52:13 -0500 From: "Jeff Wilson" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I want to thank everyone who helped with this problem. My ThinkPad is now off life support and running FreeBSD on its own. My biggest problem turned out to be replacing the kernel in the bin.tgz with the kernel that I had built. It's a simple tar operation, but I had to find about 40 meg of free disk space to work with the file! No mean task when you are running three operating systems (FreeBSD, OS/2 and DOS) on a 486 with around 600 meg of space. Now, what I would like to know is: are scancode 2 keyboards going to be supported in 2.1, or will I have to go through this all again when I upgrade? Jeff Wilson amazed to be running a great UNIX system on a little laptop with 4 meg of RAM! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 06:18:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA23776 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:18:36 -0700 Received: from relay1.oleane.net (Relay1.OLEANE.NET [194.2.1.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA23769 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:18:33 -0700 Received: from ocegr.fr (hydra.dtsmtp.ocegr.fr [194.2.64.3]) by relay1.oleane.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA19975; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:18:23 +0200 Received: from apus by ocegr.fr (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22361; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:20:17 +0200 Message-Id: <9508161320.AA22361@ocegr.fr> To: "Jeff Wilson" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:52:13 CDT." From: Gert-Jan.Vons@ocegr.fr Reply-To: Gert-Jan.Vons@ocegr.fr Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:20:15 +0200 content-length: 1269 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk |My biggest problem turned out |to be replacing the kernel in the bin.tgz with the kernel that I had built. |It's a simple tar operation, but I had to find about 40 meg of free disk space |to work with the file! Another way to do this is to simply install the original bin-dist, and to install a fake one (only containing the modified kernel) afterwards. It will simply overwrite the kernel from the original bin-dist. |Now, what I would like to know is: are scancode 2 keyboards going to be |supported in 2.1, or will I have to go through this all again when I upgrade? I went through this with 2.0 and 2.0.5 :-( I know that pcvt is able to detect the keyboard type automatically, so in theory, it should be possible to have a boot-floppy and a bin-dist that both use pcvt, and work on all(?) systems. Unless there is a specific reason why pcvt can't replace the syscons driver of course... |Jeff Wilson |amazed to be running a great UNIX system on a little laptop with 4 meg of RAM! Wait until you get some more RAM in there, I went from 4 to 12MB, and that sure makes big a difference! Gert-Jan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- J.G. Vons, Oce engineering Creteil, France | E-mail: Gert-Jan.Vons@ocegr.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 06:19:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA23854 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:19:16 -0700 Received: from relay1.oleane.net (Relay1.OLEANE.NET [194.2.1.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA23843 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:19:12 -0700 Received: from ocegr.fr (hydra.dtsmtp.ocegr.fr [194.2.64.3]) by relay1.oleane.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA19997; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:19:06 +0200 Received: from apus by ocegr.fr (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22441; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:20:59 +0200 Message-Id: <9508161320.AA22441@ocegr.fr> To: "Jeff Wilson" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:52:13 CDT." From: Gert-Jan.Vons@ocegr.fr Reply-To: Gert-Jan.Vons@ocegr.fr Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:20:57 +0200 content-length: 1269 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk |My biggest problem turned out |to be replacing the kernel in the bin.tgz with the kernel that I had built. |It's a simple tar operation, but I had to find about 40 meg of free disk space |to work with the file! Another way to do this is to simply install the original bin-dist, and to install a fake one (only containing the modified kernel) afterwards. It will simply overwrite the kernel from the original bin-dist. |Now, what I would like to know is: are scancode 2 keyboards going to be |supported in 2.1, or will I have to go through this all again when I upgrade? I went through this with 2.0 and 2.0.5 :-( I know that pcvt is able to detect the keyboard type automatically, so in theory, it should be possible to have a boot-floppy and a bin-dist that both use pcvt, and work on all(?) systems. Unless there is a specific reason why pcvt can't replace the syscons driver of course... |Jeff Wilson |amazed to be running a great UNIX system on a little laptop with 4 meg of RAM! Wait until you get some more RAM in there, I went from 4 to 12MB, and that sure makes a big difference! Gert-Jan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- J.G. Vons, Oce engineering Creteil, France | E-mail: Gert-Jan.Vons@ocegr.fr From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 06:44:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA25667 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:44:47 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA25657 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:44:40 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA22120; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:44:38 GMT Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA26156; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:44:36 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:44:36 -0600 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9508161344.AA26156@emu.fsl.noaa.gov> To: fadorno@ix.netcom.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508160638.XAA02607@ix5.ix.netcom.com> (fadorno@ix.netcom.com) Subject: Re: Printer acting up again Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Your /etc/printcap should look something like the following. In particular, note that we added the ``:sh:'' capability. This will turn of the header pages that are normally generated by lpd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ epson|action|laser|Epson ActionLaser 1500:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :sh:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson:mx#0:\ :if=/usr/local/bin/lpf: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember that every line of a single entry must have a backslash except the last, and each line except the first must start with a TAB. The shell script /usr/local/bin/lpf should look like this: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ #!/bin/sh # # /usr/local/bin/lpf - print to HP/PCL-compatible printer on stdout # PATH=/usr/bin:/bin; export PATH printf "\033&k2G" && cat && printf "\f" && exit 0 exit 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember that it's \033 and not /033; \f and not /f. Make the shell script executable: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ chown bin.bin /usr/local/bin/lpf chmod 555 /usr/local/bin/lpf ------------------------------------------------------------------------ And try it out! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ lptest 40 10 | lpr ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You should get ASCII text in a shifting pattern, 10 lines long by 40 characters wide. If not, let me know! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA To me, it's always a good idea to always carry two sacks of something when you walk around. That way, if anybody says, "Hey, can you give me a hand?," you can say, "Sorry, got these sacks." -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 06:58:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA26945 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:58:22 -0700 Received: from borris.khoros.unm.edu (borris.khoros.unm.edu [198.59.155.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA26938 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 06:58:20 -0700 Received: by borris.khoros.unm.edu (4.1/KHOROS/Feb 18 1994) id <9508161358.AA13431@borris.khoros.unm.edu>; Wed, 16 Aug 95 07:58:19 MDT Posted-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:58:19 MDT Message-Id: <9508161358.AA13431@borris.khoros.unm.edu> From: steve@khoros.unm.edu (Steven Jorgensen) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:58:19 MDT X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: -rpath support? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Under many commercial systems that support shared libraries, they offer an option on the ld command line called -rpath or -R to let you specify the directories to search for shared libraries at run time. I was wondering if some form of this capability will be added to FreeBSD's ld at some point in the future? And yes, I know about ldconfig, but not everyone that compiles software has root access, and setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH can get confusing for the average user for large software packages (like Khoros.. :) Any information appreciated. Steve -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Steven Jorgensen steve@khoral.com steve@kaos.com ------------------------------+---------------------------- Khoral Research Inc. | PHONE: (505) 837-6500 6001 Indian School, Suite 200 | FAX: (505) 881-3842 Albuquerque, NM 87110 | URL: http://www.khoral.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 07:24:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA29188 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:24:12 -0700 Received: from tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com (tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com [138.111.243.28]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA29174 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:24:09 -0700 Received: from genesis.bb.tellabs.com by tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0sijNQ-000jBbC; Wed, 16 Aug 95 09:23 CDT Received: by genesis.bb.tellabs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06749; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:23:01 -0500 From: mikebo@tellab5 (Mike Borowiec) Message-Id: <199508161423.JAA06749@genesis.bb.tellabs.com> Subject: IPX & ATalk tools for FreeBSD? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:23:01 -0500 (CDT) Cc: mikebo@tellab5 (Mike Borowiec) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Greetings BSDers - I would like to install FreeBSD on a notebook w/PCMCIA ethernet, and use this as a portable network admin platform. Of course, FreeBSD has a wonderful collection of IP debugging tools (dig, traceroute, tcpdump, etc.). It would be even better for my purposes if it had a clean port of the CAP package for debugging AppleTalk, and some selection of tools to debug IPX... I'm assuming that somewhere, someone is working on a FreeBSD port of CAP... (?) Anyone know for sure? Also, does anyone know of a UNIX package analogous to CAP for debugging IPX? - Mike -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Borowiec Network Operations Tellabs Operations, Inc. mikebo@TELLABS.COM 1000 Remington Blvd. MS109 708-378-6007 FAX: 708-378-6714 Bolingbrook, IL, USA 60440 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 07:45:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA01271 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:45:03 -0700 Received: from netmail.austin.ibm.com (netmail.austin.ibm.com [129.35.208.98]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA01247 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 07:44:57 -0700 Received: from mojave.austin.ibm.com (mojave.austin.ibm.com [129.35.128.45]) by netmail.austin.ibm.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA87798; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:44:48 -0500 Received: from localhost.austin.ibm.com by mojave.austin.ibm.com (AIX 9532A-UP 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-client-2.6) for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org at austin.ibm.com; id AA27794; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:44:35 -0500 Message-Id: <9508161444.AA27794@mojave.austin.ibm.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: problems with matcd0 on Packard Bell Force 442CDT on 2.0.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-Id: <24962.808584206.0@mojave.austin.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:44:32 -0500 From: Dave Marquardt Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24962.808584206.1@mojave.austin.ibm.com> I own a Packard Bell Force 442CDT system, which has 75 MHz Pentium 8 MB RAM Cirrus Logic GD-5434 SVGA board w/ 1MB VRAM 850 MB IDE hard drive 1.44 MB 3.5" floppy drive Parallel port Serial port Sound144 card, which includes 14.4K fax/data modem SoundBlaster compatible sound functions MPU401 MIDI port Game port Panasonic/Matsushita CR-563 CD-ROM interface 2X CD-ROM drive I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5, and I've managed to get everything to work EXCEPT the CD-ROM drive. I've configured matcd0 with the default line from the LINT config file, and the probe code doesn't see the CD-ROM. I tried looking at how things are configured on the DOS/Windows side, and I did find that the CD-ROM port was 0x340. I don't know if this is the port the Sound144 card uses to talk to the CD-ROM somehow, or if it's the port the system needs to use. 0x340 is way different from what I see in the port_hints[] array in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/matcd/options.h, so I wonder if 0x340 is really what I want. When I change the config line for matcd0 to controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x340 bio I get this error message over and over again, and have to reset the machine: matcd0: get_stat: After reading status byte, bus didn't go idle ff f7 340 >From the code I see that ff is the status byte, f7 is the bus status byte, and 340 is the port. Have others with Packard Bell machines had any better luck than I have hadconfiguring the CD-ROM driver? Any suggestions? I've turned on DEBUGPROBE and DEBUGCMD, and it just tells me that it's trying all of the ports in port_hints[]. Any help will be much appreciated! Thanks! I'm including my config file (LEFSE) and the output from dmesg.out for a kernel that uses the probe_hints[] array where I have DEBUGPROBE and DEBUGCMD turned on. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24962.808584206.2@mojave.austin.ibm.com> Content-Description: LEFSE config file # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # GENERIC,v 1.45.2.3 1995/06/05 21:50:41 jkh Exp # machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident LEFSE maxusers 10 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options HARDFONTS options SYSVSHM config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x340 bio options DEBUGPROBE options DEBUGCMD # sound card controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr #device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 2 # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint #options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device #pseudo-device ppp 1 #pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24962.808584206.3@mojave.austin.ibm.com> Content-Description: dmesg output when using hunt array FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #2: Sun Aug 13 20:45:13 CDT 1995 drm@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/LEFSE CPU: 74-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x524 Stepping=4 Features=0x1bf real memory = 7995392 (1952 pages) avail memory = 6840320 (1670 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 815MB (1669248 sectors), 1656 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S matcdc0: In probe i 0 y 4 port ffffffff matcd0: size of port_hints 20 matcdc0: Port hint 230 matcdc0: Probe DID NOT find something matcdc0: Port hint 240 matcdc0: Probe DID NOT find something matcdc0: Port hint 250 matcdc0: Probe DID NOT find something matcdc0: Port hint 260 matcdc0: Probe DID NOT find something matcdc0: Port hint ffffffff matcd0 not found at 0xffffffff sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa sb0: npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the pci0 bus: configuration mode 2 allows 16 devices. chip0 rev 17 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 3 on pci0:2 vga0 rev 216 on pci0:3 pci0: uses 16777216 bytes of memory from a0000000 upto a0ffffff. ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24962.808584206.4@mojave.austin.ibm.com> -- Dave Marquardt SMTP: marquard@austin.ibm.com VNET: MARQUARD at AUSTIN T/L 678-1139 +1 512 838-1139 ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 08:27:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA04823 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:27:12 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA04803 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:27:05 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA11135; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:29:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:29:08 -0600 Message-Id: <199508161529.JAA11135@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Carl Harris Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pcvt on boot diskette In-Reply-To: <199508161138.HAA24852@husky.cslab.vt.edu> References: <199508161138.HAA24852@husky.cslab.vt.edu> Reply-To: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) From: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm having difficulty making a boot diskette that uses the pcvt > console driver (using scanset 2 for our laptops). Actually, making > the diskette was no problem -- booting from it is a different story. > The kernel loads normally, but when it finishes decompressing and > prints "done", the machine immediately reboots. If I go back into > my CHROOTDIR, and change the config to use the sc console device > and run another 'make floppies', it works just fine. > I have seen this here, but I've also got a boot floppy which seems to work. It's available at: ftp://freefall.cdrom.com/incoming/nate/TPAD.flp. I've now also got a fixit floppy which I use to install the kernel on the system as well, since the kernel that's installed from the normal system is a syscons kernel which is useless. > I would suspect it was just something flaky about our laptops (Thinkpad > 755C), but the same results occur on desktop machines. There may be some sort of corruption that somehow the pcvt kernel is hitting. > P.S. I should also note that I saw a post from someone in the > ...freebsd.misc newsgroup group who had made a boot floppy for the > Thinkpad available via ftp. I got that floppy image and tried it, and > it does in fact work. However, it won't do for my needs since it was > from a recent snapshot (i.e. not 2.0.5-R). Ah, sorry. That was me. I can make a ThinkPad floppy using a kernel from the recent snap if need be, but it will contain the sysinstall stuff from 2.0.5. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 08:31:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA05318 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:31:40 -0700 Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (sri.MT.net [204.94.231.129]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA05304 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:31:32 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA11143; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:33:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:33:40 -0600 Message-Id: <199508161533.JAA11143@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Jeff Wilson" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Thinkpad 360CE In-Reply-To: <9508161252.AA28784@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> References: <9508141710.AA21694@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> <9508161252.AA28784@belgium.fishkill.ibm.com> Reply-To: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) From: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jeff Wilson writes: > Now, what I would like to know is: are scancode 2 keyboards going to > be supported in 2.1, or will I have to go through this all again when > I upgrade? If you can think of a way to get scancode 2 support into syscons, I'll bet you could get it into the distribution. :) But, that may be more difficult than you think. The next step is to figure out how to make it easier for folks like you to install things on the system. As Jordan already pointed out, making multiple boot disks available is *not* the optimum solution. If you can figure out how a person could build their own boot disk easily using the available sources on a CD w/out being overly complicated it would be a 'good thing'. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 08:41:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA06203 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:41:00 -0700 Received: from strider.ibenet.it ([194.179.130.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA06080 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 08:39:33 -0700 Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03242 for Questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:42:27 +0200 From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199508161542.RAA03242@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: ifconfig alias on 1.1.5.1 To: Questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions List) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:42:26 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 519 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. Does IP aliasing work on 1.1.5.1? I tried with no success, so I'm wondering if I made some mistake or the function is not supposed to work. In this last case, is there a set of patches to apply to 1.1.5.1 to make it work (switching to 2.x is out of the question on this machine)? Thanks, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 09:17:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA09310 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:17:53 -0700 Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA09302 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:17:51 -0700 Received: from nietzsche (annex1s32.urc.tue.nl [131.155.12.42]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.6.10/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id JAA18773 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:17:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nietzsche (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03996; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:59:36 +0200 Message-Id: <199508160859.KAA03996@nietzsche> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.1 5/23/95 To: Marc van Kempen cc: davidg@Root.COM, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: funny network speeds In-reply-to: wmbfmk's message of Wed, 16 Aug 1995 01:04:49 +0200. <199508152304.BAA13898@nietzsche> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:59:35 +0200 From: Marc van Kempen Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > >I notice a strange difference in the network speed, wether > > >I upload something with ftp, or download it. > > ... > > >WD8013EPC (zola) > > ... > > >3c509 (nietzsche) > > Arrgh, I got this exactly backwards! This is my current setup: WC8013EPC (nietzsche) 3c509 (zola) ---------------------------------------------------- Marc van Kempen wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl He's dead Jim ..., kick him if you don't believe me. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 09:48:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA11583 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:48:40 -0700 Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA11576 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:48:37 -0700 Received: from bob.ludd.luth.se (bob.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.51]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA07963; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:48:27 +0200 Received: (smurfen@localhost) by bob.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id SAA13281; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:45:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:45:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ola Persson To: Marc van Kempen cc: Marc van Kempen , davidg@Root.COM, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Parallel port reading In-Reply-To: <199508160859.KAA03996@nietzsche> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello ! I have built a litte device to show the phone number of the on e who calls me on the telephone. I need a program to read the parallell port when data flows on it. It also has to be able to see the difference between two digits of the same sort in a row. I know that on the Amiga there is an acknowledge pin for that... Please help me, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- You have been harassed by: Ola Persson - smurfen@ludd.luth.se Porsogarden 8:81 S-977 54 Lulea SWEDEN For more info, check http://www.ludd.luth.se/~smurfen ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 09:59:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA12258 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:59:27 -0700 Received: from moon.src.honeywell.com (moon.src.honeywell.com [129.235.16.32]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA12250 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 09:59:23 -0700 Received: from johnwayne.src.honeywell.com by moon.src.honeywell.com (4.1/smail2.6.3/SRCv0.25); Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:58:55 CDT id AA00724 for questions@freebsd.org at freebsd.org Posted-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:58:19 CDT Received: by johnwayne.src.honeywell.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA09445; Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:58:19 CDT Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 11:58:19 CDT From: englehar@src.honeywell.com (Matt Englehart) Message-Id: <9508161658.AA09445@johnwayne.src.honeywell.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: file transfer over serial port locks up pc Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm running the April snapshot of 2.0 on a pc that is hooked up to a network with the 3com 509b board. When I attempt to do a file transfer over the serial port, the machine hangs. Sometimes I get a warning: messages saying the silo buffer is overflowwing (I have a UART16550A). I am connceting with a 28800 modem, and between the pc and the modem I have tried 38400 and 115200. This happens when I try transfering a file using any of the following applications: 1. netscape over ppp 2. ftp over ppp 3. rz/sz 4. tupload over term (the term program, originally written for Linux) It seems as though things have gotten worse now that I've added the ethernet interface. It used to rarely hang. Now it does within an instant of attempting file transfer. I'm thinking of trying out 2.0.5R. Do you have enough of a clue as to what the problem might be to say that it might be eliminated in 2.0.5R? Thanks, Matt Englehart ------- End of forwarded message ------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 10:10:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA13399 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:10:20 -0700 Received: from comp1.aiiad.com (aiiad.com [204.235.85.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA13316 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:09:51 -0700 From: BRUCE@AIIAD.COM Received: from [0.0.0.0] by comp1.aiiad.com id aa001103 Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:10:50 Eastern Daylight Time--100 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:05:31 PDT Subject: where are the daemons To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ENGP1, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailedby: NT SMTP/LISTSERVER v2.10 (ntmail@net-shopper.co.uk) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi, I have some of the std daemons running but, logged in as root, the ps command doesnt show them. where are they and how can I control them (stop, start, etc) Thanks very much, Bruce Goldberg ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- E-mail: BRUCE@aiiad.com mail: Bruce Goldberg fax: 212-227-0127 American International Group phone: 212-770-9315 Internal Audit Division 99 John Street - 5th floor New York, NY 10038 Date: 08/16/95 Time: 13:05:31 ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 10:25:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA14807 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:25:34 -0700 Received: from comp1.aiiad.com (aiiad.com [204.235.85.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA14801 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:25:31 -0700 From: BRUCE@AIIAD.COM Received: from [0.0.0.0] by comp1.aiiad.com id aa001102 Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:05:24 Eastern Daylight Time--100 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:59:07 PDT Subject: no adduser cmd (2.0) To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ENGP1, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailedby: NT SMTP/LISTSERVER v2.10 (ntmail@net-shopper.co.uk) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi, cant find adduser(8) anywhere on my system using the find command. only found adduser.sh, which just keeps telling me 'user exists already' is adduser missing from the bindist? can u give me a copy? btw adduser(8) is also missing from the paper usenix manual thanks very much Bruce Goldberg ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- E-mail: BRUCE@aiiad.com mail: Bruce Goldberg fax: 212-227-0127 American International Group phone: 212-770-9315 Internal Audit Division 99 John Street - 5th floor New York, NY 10038 Date: 08/16/95 Time: 12:59:07 ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 10:32:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA15285 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:32:17 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA15272 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:32:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA03540 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:30:29 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: BRUCE@aiiad.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where are the daemons In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:05:31 PDT." Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:30:27 +0100 Message-ID: <3538.808594227@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message , BRUCE@aiiad.com wri tes: >hi, >I have some of the std daemons running but, logged >in as root, the ps command doesnt show them. where >are they and how can I control them (stop, start, >etc) ps -x will show daemon processes which don't have a controlling termnal... ps -ax will show all processes running on the machine. May I suggest a perusal of the `ps' man page? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 10:35:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA15679 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:35:50 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA15669 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:35:45 -0700 Received: (from uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA01352 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:35:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:35:31 +0200 From: Lars koeller Message-Id: <199508161735.TAA01352@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:51:49 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id DAA29401; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 03:53:41 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508161823.DAA29401@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 03:53:40 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Aug 16, 95 01:43:27 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1075 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: > I am very dissapointed: Adding second SCSI disk drive to the FreeBSD system > seems to be very complicated! Nooo, it's very trivial. I can't understand why people have so much trouble with it 8( > Is one solution to make new disk with root partition only and install some > minimal system on it? No. Feed the disk to fdisk -i, then disklabel it, then newfs your filesystems. Should take all of a minute or two, once you work out what's going on. > 2. How is it possible that this is not a FAQ? It _is_ a FAQ, but nobody's written an entry for it. Tell you what, if you want, I'll talk you through it & you can write the entry. Deal? 8) > Seppo -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 11:05:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA18316 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:05:48 -0700 Received: from crow.ctc.edu (crow.ctc.edu [134.39.180.20]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA18309 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:05:46 -0700 Received: (from chris@localhost) by crow.ctc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA08948; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:59:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:59:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Coleman To: Michael Smith cc: Seppo Kallio , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dual Pentiums In-Reply-To: <199508161823.DAA29401@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm in the position to advise our college in the purchase of an internet server, and I would like to put FreeBSD on it. But i need to know if FreeBSD does, or can be made to support Dual Pentium 133 MHZ processors. I need to know soon, i could have the order request as soon as next week. And I still need to put together a proper purposal. Any help or opinions will be welcome. Thanks in advance Chris Coleman Chris@crow.ctc.edu Lost in Space and Loving it. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 11:17:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA19313 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:17:54 -0700 Received: from prosun.first.gmd.de (prosun.first.gmd.de [192.35.150.136]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA19260 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:17:20 -0700 Received: from freebsd.first.gmd.de by prosun.first.gmd.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22056; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:17:14 +0200 Received: by freebsd.first.gmd.de (UAA03998); Wed, 16 Aug 1995 20:17:26 +0200 From: Gerd Truschinski Message-Id: <199508161817.UAA03998@freebsd.first.gmd.de> Subject: cpp - manpage or shellscript To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 20:17:26 +0159 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 449 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, the cpp manpage told me that $ cpp t.c xxx will create the outputfile xxx. But the output is on stdout and I get the error message cpp: xxx: No such file or directory Who is wrong, the manpage or the shell script in /usr/bin/cpp? /gT/ -- Gerd Truschinski | Yes, this is the sort of scenario I gt@freebsd.first.gmd.de | think up to amuse myself in the evenings. emma@cs.tu-berlin.de | -- with confirmation from Larisa From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 11:29:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA20106 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:29:04 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA20060 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:28:56 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA29545; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:31:12 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508161901.EAA29545@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: problems with matcd0 on Packard Bell Force 442CDT on 2.0.5 To: marquard@austin.ibm.com (Dave Marquardt) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:31:12 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508161444.AA27794@mojave.austin.ibm.com> from "Dave Marquardt" at Aug 16, 95 09:44:32 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1593 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Dave Marquardt stands accused of saying: > Sound144 card, which includes > 14.4K fax/data modem > SoundBlaster compatible sound functions > MPU401 MIDI port > Game port > Panasonic/Matsushita CR-563 CD-ROM interface > 2X CD-ROM drive > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5, and I've managed to get everything to work > EXCEPT the CD-ROM drive. I've configured matcd0 with the default line > from the LINT config file, and the probe code doesn't see the CD-ROM. > I tried looking at how things are configured on the DOS/Windows side, > and I did find that the CD-ROM port was 0x340. I don't know if this > is the port the Sound144 card uses to talk to the CD-ROM somehow, or > if it's the port the system needs to use. 0x340 is way different from > what I see in the port_hints[] array in > /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/matcd/options.h, so I wonder if 0x340 is really > what I want. After corresponding with the author of the matcd driver, I understand that the version of the driver in 2.0.5R is only suitable for use with genuine SB16 adapters. Newer versions of the driver support other cards (like yours) >From first impressions, it appears that the driver is a straight-forward drop-in. > Dave Marquardt -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 11:37:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA20557 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:37:25 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA20551 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:37:23 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id EAA29583; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:39:30 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508161909.EAA29583@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: file transfer over serial port locks up pc To: englehar@src.honeywell.com (Matt Englehart) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:39:30 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508161658.AA09445@johnwayne.src.honeywell.com> from "Matt Englehart" at Aug 16, 95 11:58:19 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1613 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Matt Englehart stands accused of saying: > > Hello, I'm running the April snapshot of 2.0 on a pc that is hooked up to a > network with the 3com 509b board. When I attempt to do a file transfer > over the serial port, the machine hangs. Sometimes I get a warning: messages > saying the silo buffer is overflowwing (I have a UART16550A). I am > connceting with a 28800 modem, and between the pc and the modem I have > tried 38400 and 115200. This happens when I try transfering a file using > any of the following applications: > > 1. netscape over ppp > 2. ftp over ppp > 3. rz/sz > 4. tupload over term (the term program, originally written for Linux) > > It seems as though things have gotten worse now that I've added the > ethernet interface. It used to rarely hang. Now it does within an instant > of attempting file transfer. > > I'm thinking of trying out 2.0.5R. Do you have enough of a clue as to what > the problem might be to say that it might be eliminated in 2.0.5R? That depends on whether you fix your hardware problems first. I suspect that you have a configuration problem; more explicitly, I suspect that you have your ethernet controller on the same IRQ as one of your serial ports. > Matt Englehart -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 11:43:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA20999 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:43:35 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA20993 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:43:33 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA10083; Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:35:50 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508161835.AA10083@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Dual Pentiums To: chris@crow.ctc.edu (Chris Coleman) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 12:35:49 MDT Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, kallio@jyu.fi, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chris Coleman" at Aug 16, 95 10:59:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I'm in the position to advise our college in the purchase of an > internet server, and I would like to put FreeBSD on it. But i need to > know if FreeBSD does, or can be made to support Dual Pentium 133 MHZ > processors. I need to know soon, i could have the order request as soon > as next week. And I still need to put together a proper purposal. It will run fine, but will not (yet) take advantage of the second processer. I personally run a Dual P90 box without problems. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 11:51:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA21511 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:51:04 -0700 Received: from mail1.access.digex.net (mail1.access.digex.net [205.197.247.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21503 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 11:51:02 -0700 Received: from ugen (ugen-tr.worldbank.org [138.220.101.58]) by mail1.access.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA05362; for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:50:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 14:47:55 PDT From: "Ugen J.S.Antsilevich" Subject: Re: Dual Pentiums To: Chris Coleman , Terry Lambert Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, kallio@jyu.fi, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >It will run fine, but will not (yet) take advantage of the second ^^^^^ BTW is there any estimations as to how long this "yet" will continue? :) >processer. --Ugen From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 12:16:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA23410 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:16:02 -0700 Received: from moon.src.honeywell.com (moon.src.honeywell.com [129.235.16.32]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA23404 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:15:58 -0700 Received: from johnwayne.src.honeywell.com by moon.src.honeywell.com (4.1/smail2.6.3/SRCv0.25); Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:15:35 CDT id AA03327 for questions@freebsd.org at freebsd.org Posted-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:14:54 CDT Received: by johnwayne.src.honeywell.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA16440; Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:14:54 CDT Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:14:54 CDT From: englehar@src.honeywell.com (Matt Englehart) Message-Id: <9508161914.AA16440@johnwayne.src.honeywell.com> To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508161909.EAA29583@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> (message from Michael Smith on Thu, 17 Aug 1995 04:39:30 +0930 (CST)) Subject: Re: file transfer over serial port locks up pc Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "MS" == Michael Smith writes: MS> Matt Englehart stands accused of saying: >> >> Hello, I'm running the April snapshot of 2.0 on a pc that is hooked up to a >> network with the 3com 509b board. When I attempt to do a file transfer >> over the serial port, the machine hangs. >> It seems as though things have gotten worse now that I've added the >> ethernet interface. It used to rarely hang. Now it does within an instant >> of attempting file transfer. >> I'm thinking of trying out 2.0.5R. Do you have enough of a clue as to what >> the problem might be to say that it might be eliminated in 2.0.5R? MS> That depends on whether you fix your hardware problems first. I suspect MS> that you have a configuration problem; more explicitly, I suspect that MS> you have your ethernet controller on the same IRQ as one of your serial MS> ports. sigh.... I wish: > dmesg ... sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A ... ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/bnc/utp[*BNC*] address 00:20:af:74:67:6e irq 10 Thanks for the effort, though :-) Matt From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 12:28:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA23826 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:28:06 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA23819 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:28:02 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay1.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQzdbp12537; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:27:49 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id OAA01150; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:30:07 -0400 From: dlr Message-Id: <199508161830.OAA01150@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: no adduser cmd (2.0) To: BRUCE@AIIAD.COM Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "BRUCE@AIIAD.COM" at Aug 16, 95 12:59:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 668 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk | |hi, |cant find adduser(8) anywhere on my system using |the find command. only found adduser.sh, which just |keeps telling me 'user exists already' is adduser |missing from the bindist? can u give me a copy? | |btw adduser(8) is also missing from the paper |usenix manual | try /stand/adduser.sh -i for interactively adding user try /stand/adduser.sh -h help Here is a section of the script: ########################### # Show the User all options usage() { message " adduser -h Prints help adduser -i For interactively adding users Command line options: adduser [-u UserName][-g GroupName][-s Shell]" exit 1 } ########################## dave From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 12:32:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA24090 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:32:06 -0700 Received: from sage.cc.purdue.edu (sage.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA24063 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:31:58 -0700 Received: from cfs.purdue.edu (cfs.cfs.purdue.edu [128.210.80.11]) by sage.cc.purdue.edu (8.6.10/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA19324 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:31:25 -0500 Received: from CFS/MERCURY_MAIL by cfs.purdue.edu (Mercury 1.21); 16 Aug 95 14:32:44 Received: from MERCURY_MAIL by CFS (Mercury 1.21); 16 Aug 95 14:32:40 From: "W. Jeremy Nauck" Organization: CFS at Purdue University To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:32:33 EST Subject: P5 w/ Adaptec AHA-2940W SCSI card Reply-to: Jeremy@cfs.purdue.edu X-Confirm-Reading-To: Jeremy@cfs.purdue.edu X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.0-WB3) Message-ID: <9F9A220B3A@cfs.purdue.edu> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings friends! Here's an interesting phenom that you may not have seen yet! During the initial boot from floppy before installation (2.0 and 2.0.5) everything begins to boot alright, but immediately after the phase the system panics with RAM parity error. Probable hardware problem. I isolated the error to our Adaptec AHA-2940W SCSI card (PCI) by removing it and booting with only a 1.44 3.5" floppy installed. The install process then begins normally. The AHC0 device is not even probed which I find odd since I was under the impression that it was included in the generic kernal distribution. Any hints/suggestions you may provide would be very helpful! Thanks in advance! -Jeremy ---------------------------------------------------------- Diclaimer goes here....etc... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 12:41:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA24484 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:41:17 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA24473 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:41:02 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id PAA04853; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:29:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:29:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Parallel port reading To: Ola Persson cc: Marc van Kempen , Marc van Kempen , davidg@Root.COM, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, Ola Persson wrote: > I have built a litte device to show the phone number of the on e who > calls me on the telephone. > > I need a program to read the parallell port when data flows on it. take a look at /sys/i386/isa/lpt.c the lpintr function is used by lp0 to read the parallel port and to write to it. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 12:59:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA25528 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:59:49 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA25519 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 12:59:43 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA10285; Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:51:50 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508161951.AA10285@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Dual Pentiums To: ugen@latte.worldbank.org (Ugen J.S.Antsilevich) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 13:51:49 MDT Cc: chris@crow.ctc.edu, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, kallio@jyu.fi, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Ugen J.S.Antsilevich" at Aug 11, 95 02:47:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >It will run fine, but will not (yet) take advantage of the second > ^^^^^ BTW is there any estimations > as to how long this "yet" will continue? :) > >processer. I'm not lead engineer -- as a matter of fact, I haven't been able to participate in the SMP work at all since buying my dual P90 machine because I've been completely unable to contact the guy who's running the show. It's up to him to give a status report if he chooses to do so. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 13:12:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA25957 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:12:39 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA25944 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:12:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199508162012.NAA25944@freefall.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.FreeBSD.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Jeremy@cfs.purdue.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: P5 w/ Adaptec AHA-2940W SCSI card In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 95 14:32:33 EST." <9F9A220B3A@cfs.purdue.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:12:30 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings friends! > >Here's an interesting phenom that you may not have seen yet! >During the initial boot from floppy before installation (2.0 and >2.0.5) everything begins to boot alright, but immediately after the >phase the system panics with RAM parity error. Probable hardware >problem. I isolated the error to our Adaptec AHA-2940W SCSI card >(PCI) by removing it and booting with only a 1.44 3.5" floppy >installed. The install process then begins normally. The AHC0 >device is not even probed which I find odd since I was under the >impression that it was included in the generic kernal distribution. > Any hints/suggestions you may provide would be very helpful! >Thanks in advance! > -Jeremy Can you give me some info on the type of periferals on the 2940(W)? It may be that you are tickling a bug that was in the 2.0.5 driver, but has been corrected now. Does the adapter work okay under dos? Have you checked termination? Is the adapter in a bus mastering PCI slot? Just want to ensure that you don't have any strange problems with your configuration. > >---------------------------------------------------------- >Diclaimer goes here....etc... -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 13:49:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA27716 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:49:01 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA27710 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:48:57 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA01628; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:41:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:41:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Don's FList drop" To: questions Subject: Re: Exit on signal 12 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Don's FList drop wrote: > I'm running Uniboard here... or at least trying to. I think this > component may have been compiled under 2.0 and something has changes in > 2.0.5R that caused this break - it runs long enough to print the startup > tag, then exits on signal 12. If I read sys/signal.h correctly, this > indicates a bad argument to a system call. > I've written the author, but I know he's not primarily a FreeBSD guy - > any ideas what system call arguments changed from 2.0 to 2.0.5? (Pardon > if this is a stupendously stupid question) For the benefit of anyone running Uniboard on FreeBSD: Garrett gave me a nudge about the real meaning of this message (Unimplemented call, not bad argument to...) and it spurred me to think about what I know about the way the software works. The solution was to rebuild the kernel with SysV interprocess communication flags. (options SYSVSHM, SYSVSEM, SYSVMSG) Pizzi apparently didn't realize they weren't enabled by default (were they in 1.1.5? I don't have a machine running that anymore. The April 2.0 snapshot didn't have them...) I've encouraged Pizzi to put a README.FREEBSD in his distribution with this little tidbit, but just in case anyone is reading here.... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 13:56:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA28221 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:56:45 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA28214 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:56:40 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id QAA15071; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:56:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 16:56:25 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199508162056.QAA15071@grep.cs.fsu.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Mosaic 2.6 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all. Are there anybody sucessfully builds the binary for Mosaic-src-2.6 on FreeBSD 2.0.5R? Thanks. Regards, --Uh uh@cs.fsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 14:53:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA00480 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:53:28 -0700 Received: from monge.brunel.ac.uk (monge.brunel.ac.uk [134.83.72.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA00470 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:53:26 -0700 Received: from mishmash.brunel.ac.uk by monge.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <24703-0@monge.brunel.ac.uk>; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 22:53:11 +0100 From: Nik Clayton Message-Id: <11490.9508162153@mishmash.brunel.ac.uk> Subject: 2.0.5 as YP server? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 22:53:09 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 330 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can it be done? My 2.0R yp(4) manual page says that server code hasn't been written yet. I was wondering if it was working for .0.5? N =-[Opinion, n: See the above text for an example]=-=[Kibo #: e]-[RYRYRY]=-= =-[The Silly Sod Society: To perfect and to swerve]=-[beable]-=[TP U BG]=-= Marriage is a triumph of habit over hate. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 14:54:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA00530 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:54:05 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00524 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:54:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA12001 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:53:59 -0700 Prev-Resent: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:53:58 -0700 Prev-Resent: "questions@freebsd.org " Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.org (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA11189 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:48:32 -0700 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA16805 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:48:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:48:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199508161748.KAA16805@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Questions about FreeBSD From: edw@nchgr.nih.gov (WWW Form) To: www@freefall.FreeBSD.org Resent-To: questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 14:53:59 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <11999.808610039@time.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The machine this came from was: (null) Could you direct me to where I can ask a question about FreeBSD. I have a two disk Pentium system, disk 1 is Windows 95 and disk 2 is FreeBSD. When I upgraded I lost the boot manager and can not figure out the process to be able to boot between the 'DOS' vs "FreeBSD". I thought this was done at the fdisk level but am at a lost. Any direction is appreciated. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 15:11:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA01463 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:11:14 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA01456 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:11:09 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA01230; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:18:49 GMT Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:18:14 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" To: questions on FreeBSD Subject: Anonymous Account with ftpd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a heck of a time trying to allow ~ftp/pub to point to a different directory (symbolic link). I'm using wu-ftpd, and have created ~ftp with all the "suggested" file modes for ~ftp/bin, ~ftp/etc ... I'm guessing that the software was designed to not allow changing directories to a symbolic link??? Is their any way to get around this. I would like to continue to have ~ftp in /usr/home/ftp, but would like ~ftp/pub to point to /usr2/pub, i.e. My other HD... Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - !! Garbage in, Garbage out !! - - ****************************************** - fact: UNIX Rules, NT does not. - - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) ---------------------------------- - Computer Technician / Programmer - * Boy Scouts of America * - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - Assistant District commisioner - - __________________________________ - Techumseh Council - - (513) 257-9479 DSN: 787-9479 - Chillicothe District - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - Fairborn, Ohio - - deanj@wpdis01.wpafb.af.mil (backup) ---------------------------------- - deanjd@scccgw04.wpafb.af.mil " - (For Rent) - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 15:14:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA01700 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:14:53 -0700 Received: from tale.frihet.com (ns.frihet.com [165.227.57.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA01686 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:14:41 -0700 Received: from localhost.frihet.com (tweten@localhost.frihet.com [127.0.0.1]) by tale.frihet.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA08781; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:13:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199508162213.PAA08781@tale.frihet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: tale.frihet.com: Host localhost.frihet.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 Reply-To: "David E. Tweten" To: Piero@strider.ibenet.it cc: Questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions List) Subject: Re: ifconfig alias on 1.1.5.1 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:13:54 -0700 From: "David E. Tweten" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Piero Serin wrote: > Does IP aliasing work on 1.1.5.1? I tried with no success, so I'm > wondering if I made some mistake or the function is not supposed > to work. It works for me on 1.1.5.1. What does your command line look like? The one I use is ifconfig ppp0 inet tale alias netmask 255.255.255.0 where "tale" is the aliased name on my ppp port. -- David E. Tweten | PGP Key fingerprint = | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 The only flags worth saluting are those you are permitted to burn. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 18:12:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA08371 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:12:16 -0700 Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08354 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:11:37 -0700 Received: from ast.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzdcm23151; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 21:09:20 -0400 Received: from trsvax.fw.ast.com (fw.ast.com) by ast.com with SMTP id AA24728 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:09:34 -0700 Received: by trsvax.fw.ast.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.1) id ; Wed, 16 Aug 95 20:09 CDT Received: by nemesis.lonestar.org (Smail3.1.27.1 #18) id m0sitB0-0004w7C; Wed, 16 Aug 95 19:51 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 95 19:51 CDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, marquard@austin.ibm.com From: uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org (Frank Durda IV) Sent: Wed Aug 16 1995, 19:51:18 CDT Subject: problems with matcd0 on Packard Bell Force 442CDT on 2.0.5 Cc: uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [0]I own a Packard Bell Force 442CDT system, which has [0]... [0]Sound144 card, which includes [0] 14.4K fax/data modem [0] SoundBlaster compatible sound functions ***********!!!!!********** [0] MPU401 MIDI port [0] Game port [0] Panasonic/Matsushita CR-563 CD-ROM interface [0]2X CD-ROM drive [0]I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5, and I've managed to get everything to work [0]EXCEPT the CD-ROM drive. I've configured matcd0 with the default line [0]from the LINT config file, and the probe code doesn't see the CD-ROM. [0]I tried looking at how things are configured on the DOS/Windows side, [0]and I did find that the CD-ROM port was 0x340. I don't know if this This ought to be in the FAQ. Oh, *it IS*! It's in hardware.hlp on the 2.0.5 CD-ROM, and is also on the matcd man page (matcd.4). Here is the Quick replay from the same question from two days ago: The version of the matcd driver in 2.0.5 supports ONLY adapter cards from Creative Labs, ie GENUINE SoundBlaster cards. Knock-off cards, partcularly those with the I/O port at 0x340 or higher are not compatible and don't work. The knock-off cards have similar I/O ports and commands for "sound functions" but the CD-ROM interface is different. The board makers figure it doesn't matter since the games and stuff are going to use the provided CD-ROM driver and MSCDEX (under DOS) to access the drive anyway. (Only the sound part of the board has to be identical or people complain.) To support NON-Creative Labs sound cards Panasonic CD-ROM interfaces, you need the latest matcd driver, which can be found in -current and hopefully soon in a SNAP. It will also be in FreeBSD 2.1. Frank Durda IV |"The Knights who say "LETNi" or uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Fastest Route)| demand... A SEGMENT REGISTER!!!" ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem |"A what?" ...decvax!fw.ast.com!nemesis!uhclem |"LETNi! LETNi! LETNi!" - 1983 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 18:17:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA08823 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:17:24 -0700 Received: from irbs.irbs.com (irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA08816 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:17:19 -0700 Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA19208; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 21:13:48 -0400 From: John Capo Message-Id: <199508170113.VAA19208@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 21:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Cc: kallio@jyu.fi, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508161823.DAA29401@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Aug 17, 95 03:53:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1760 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Trivial as long as you understand that fdisk is broken. It does not calculate ending C/H/S properly from the size. It wants to start the partition on cylinder 1, head 2. It is still hardwired for rsd0d. Its behaviour is different when invoked on r[sw]d0 vs. r[sw]d0c. And error messages about operation not supported are OK, maybe, sometimes. :-( Just went through this with two systems but I didn't have time to really debug the problem. The labels finally stuck and I got the drives installed. I want to visit it again when I have time and a drive I can hack on. John Capo IRBS Engineering Michael Smith writes: > > Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: > > I am very dissapointed: Adding second SCSI disk drive to the FreeBSD system > > seems to be very complicated! > > Nooo, it's very trivial. I can't understand why people have so much > trouble with it 8( > > > Is one solution to make new disk with root partition only and install some > > minimal system on it? > > No. Feed the disk to fdisk -i, then disklabel it, then newfs your > filesystems. Should take all of a minute or two, once you work out > what's going on. > > > 2. How is it possible that this is not a FAQ? > > It _is_ a FAQ, but nobody's written an entry for it. Tell you what, > if you want, I'll talk you through it & you can write the entry. Deal? 8) > > > Seppo > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ > ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ > ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 18:30:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA09040 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:30:15 -0700 Received: from easy4.easynet.com ([199.2.26.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA09034 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:30:13 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by easy4.easynet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA05851; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:30:47 GMT From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199508170130.BAA05851@easy4.easynet.com> Subject: Re: P5/2940W panics system To: Jeremy@cfs.purdue.edu Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:30:47 +0000 () Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9F9A220B3A@cfs.purdue.edu> from "W. Jeremy Nauck" at Aug 16, 95 02:32:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 638 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > During the initial boot from floppy before installation (2.0 and > 2.0.5) everything begins to boot alright, but immediately after the > phase the system panics with RAM parity error. Probable hardware > problem. I isolated the error to our Adaptec AHA-2940W SCSI card > (PCI) by removing it and booting with only a 1.44 3.5" floppy > installed. > -Jeremy I found a similar problem with a board using the adaptec 7850 single chip SCSI. (I believe the 2940W uses 7870 technology) Turning off the motherboard memory parity checking cured the problem, though I later ran into other problems. Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 19:07:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA10861 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:07:42 -0700 Received: from lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.7.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA10785 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:07:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199508170207.TAA10785@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Received: by lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08557; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:51:10 +0800 From: Yen-Wei Liu Subject: Re: problems with matcd0 on Packard Bell Force 442CDT on 2.0.5 To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 9:51:09 EAT Cc: marquard@austin.ibm.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508161901.EAA29545@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from "Michael Smith" at Aug 17, 95 4:31 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > what I see in the port_hints[] array in > > /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/matcd/options.h, so I wonder if 0x340 is really > > what I want. > > After corresponding with the author of the matcd driver, I understand that > the version of the driver in 2.0.5R is only suitable for use with > genuine SB16 adapters. Newer versions of the driver support other > cards (like yours) > I believe so. I have a Ultrasound clone with Panasonic interface and first I installed it with a borrowed SCSI CD-ROM and then grasped the matcd/* from SNAP version and make a new kernel. Everything works fine now. -- Yen-Wei Liu Internet e-mail address:ywliu@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw ywliu@gate.sinica.edu.tw FAX: +886-2-783-6444 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 19:13:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA11407 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:13:07 -0700 Received: from lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.7.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA11401 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199508170213.TAA11401@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Received: by lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08662; Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:00:03 +0800 From: Yen-Wei Liu Subject: Re: Anonymous Account with ftpd To: root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:00:03 EAT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: ; from "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" at Aug 16, 95 6:18 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm having a heck of a time trying to allow ~ftp/pub > to point to a different directory (symbolic link). I'm using > wu-ftpd, and have created ~ftp with all the "suggested" file modes for > ~ftp/bin, ~ftp/etc ... I'm guessing that the software was designed to not > allow changing directories to a symbolic link??? Is their any way to get > around this. > > I would like to continue to have ~ftp in /usr/home/ftp, but would > like ~ftp/pub to point to /usr2/pub, i.e. My other HD... I don't think this can be done, since anonymous ftp account is chroot'ed. The symbolic , such as pub -> /usr2/pub , is not goning to work. Its root dir is ~ftp. What I have done is try to remount another partition under ~ftp/pub. Or using NFS to export /usr/pub to itself is another good try. -- Yen-Wei Liu Internet e-mail address:ywliu@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw ywliu@gate.sinica.edu.tw FAX: +886-2-783-6444 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 19:20:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA11860 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:20:55 -0700 Received: from lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.7.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA11809 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:19:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199508170219.TAA11809@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Received: by lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08748; Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:05:16 +0800 From: Yen-Wei Liu Subject: Re: problems with matcd0 on Packard Bell Force 442CDT on 2.0.5 To: ywliu@lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (Yen-Wei Liu) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:05:16 EAT Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, marquard@austin.ibm.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508170207.TAA10785@freefall.FreeBSD.org>; from "Yen-Wei Liu" at Aug 17, 95 9:51 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I believe so. I have a Ultrasound clone with Panasonic interface and first > I installed it with a borrowed SCSI CD-ROM and then grasped the matcd/* from > SNAP version and make a new kernel. Everything works fine now. ^^^^^^^ I meant -current. -- Yen-Wei Liu Internet e-mail address:ywliu@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw ywliu@gate.sinica.edu.tw FAX: +886-2-783-6444 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 19:21:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA12076 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:21:44 -0700 Received: from jupiter.avsi.com (jupiter.avsi.com [199.100.190.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA12070 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 19:21:40 -0700 Received: from avsi.com (jupiter.avsi.com [199.100.190.6]) by jupiter.avsi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA08030 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 22:22:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199508170222.WAA08030@jupiter.avsi.com> From: Allyn Hardyck To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and MacX Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 22:22:26 -0400 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk How can I get my FreeBSD machine to accept requests to generate X windows and send them back to a Mac running MacX? - Doing an "rsh fbsd-machine xterm -display fbsd-machine2..." on fbsd-machine2 works, where both machine and machine2 are running FreeBSD and fbsd-machine2 is in fbsd-machine's .rhosts. - Having a telnet window open to fbsd-machine on a Mac and running the xterm back from there to the Mac works, if MacX is up on the Mac. (i.e. not a problem with MacX) - Opening a window from inside MacX to a non-FreeBSD machine works, using MacTCP Tool to send the name, password and display information. (i.e. not a problem with MacX's password-passing functions) What doesn't work is opening a window from inside MacX to a local FreeBSD machine. I'm assuming it's being paranoid about stuff happening on not well known ports; a good thing, but how do I selectively turn it off? I'm running S-Key, but it's turned off for machines inside the network. Thanks for any advice. Allyn Hardyck Avalanche Systems Inc. allynh@avsi.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 20:30:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA14780 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 20:30:17 -0700 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (diamond.sierra.net [204.94.39.235]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA14759 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 20:30:10 -0700 Received: from martis-d228.sierra.net by diamond.sierra.net with SMTP id AA01418 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 16 Aug 1995 15:05:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199508162205.AA01418@diamond.sierra.net> From: "Jim Howard" To: Chuck Robey , freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:35:49 -0800 Subject: Re: gnumalloc Reply-To: jiho@sierra.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I don't think you have the whole story, and I believe you might possibly > be wrong about this administrator versus user mindset. One of the big > reasons why you want stuff in the root partition to be statically linked > is so that, in the situation where you've blown away something drastic in > /usr, and can't mount it (and all of your shared libs), the tools that > exist to allow you to (possibly) fix this still work. If everything is > made dynamically linked, and you lose your libs, you're dead. If fact, I > don't think you can even update your libs easily, because when you move > them, every tool you have will die. But your rebuttal just provides another example of the point. In the single-user desktop PC world, if things get THAT fouled up you just re-install the whole system from scratch, with important files presumably backed up securely. Your argument would be considered somewhere pretty far out on the fringe, frankly. But even accepting it, why would anyone consider putting /usr on a separately-mounted partition on any machine except a server? What purpose is served [ ;) ] for a single-user desktop machine? And how did this degenerate into an argument, anyway? Your perspective is clearly different from mine. It still amazes me that, although most UNI* machines are single-user workstations, it doesn't occur to people to reconsider the notion that workstations should carry all the baggage that only multi-user servers actually require. This one-size-fits-all approach has limited the appeal of UNI*. (The hardware margins of workstation vendors, however, have attracted a fair amount of envy in the PC clone market, where everyone is counting on Windows 95 to prop things up.) And since this all started with the memory usage of X and its clients: How many sites do you know of, where the network transparency of X is actually utilized as originally designed? What happened to the X terminal market? I thought the newsgroups had been abandoned to arguments like this.... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 23:10:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA21876 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:10:25 -0700 Received: from web.azstarnet.com (azstarnet.com [169.197.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA21869 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:10:20 -0700 Received: from sprite189.azstarnet.com (sprite189.azstarnet.com [169.197.3.189]) by web.azstarnet.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA27087; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:08:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:08:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199508170608.XAA27087@web.azstarnet.com> X-Sender: maher@azstarnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: majordomo@braae.ru.ac.za, questions@FreeBSD.org From: maher@azstarnet.com (maher katbah) Subject: configuring BSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the specific line I need to add to /etc/ttys to setup the modem, assuming that I want to connect it to cuaa1? and is there any thing else I need to do in the server to be able to dial in from a differant computer? also can I call from DOS computer to the server? What is the name of the program that will allow me to dial out ? Do I really need CSU/DSU, terminal server, and router to be an ISP, or can I just use a modembank instead of the terminal server? where can I get some help to become an ISP ? Thank you maher From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 23:17:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA22226 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:17:39 -0700 Received: from peach.epix.net (peach.epix.net [199.224.64.20]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22218 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:17:36 -0700 Received: from .epix.net (twndppp32.epix.net [199.224.75.32]) by peach.epix.net (8.6.10/950729.09ccg) with SMTP id CAA05982 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 02:12:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199508170612.CAA05982@peach.epix.net> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 02:14:36 -0400 From: "Loren J. Petrof" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Minimum Space, Release Date for 2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Two quickies..... Minimum space required for 2.0.5 Release date for 2.1 oh. and a third... is it possible for this to run on a i286 Thanks Loren J. Petrof lpetrof@epix.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 23:31:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA22839 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:31:30 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA22829 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:31:25 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA01091; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:28:53 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508170658.QAA01091@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: configuring BSD To: maher@azstarnet.com (maher katbah) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:28:51 +0930 (CST) Cc: majordomo@braae.ru.ac.za, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199508170608.XAA27087@web.azstarnet.com> from "maher katbah" at Aug 16, 95 11:08:37 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1422 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk maher katbah stands accused of saying: > > What is the specific line I need to add to /etc/ttys to setup the modem, > assuming that I want to connect it to cuaa1? and is there any thing else I > need to do in the server to be able to dial in from a differant computer? > also can I call from DOS computer to the server? There's a sample entry in /etc/ttys, with a leading '#' all set up already for a dialin line. (ttyd1, not cuaa1) > What is the name of the program that will allow me to dial out ? Providing you don't have a getty on the port (ie. the line in /etc/ttys has been commented out and init restarted), you can just say cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaa1 > Do I really need CSU/DSU, terminal server, and router to be an ISP, or can I > just use a modembank instead of the terminal server? You can indeed use a pile of modems and a multiport card or so to run a dialin server. > Thank you I really think you ought to spend a little money on a book on rudimentary system administration before getting too carried away. > maher -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 23:37:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA23062 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:37:36 -0700 Received: from web.azstarnet.com (azstarnet.com [169.197.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA23031 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:37:31 -0700 Received: from sprite184.azstarnet.com (sprite184.azstarnet.com [169.197.3.184]) by web.azstarnet.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA00973; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:35:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:35:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199508170635.XAA00973@web.azstarnet.com> X-Sender: maher@azstarnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: majordomo@braae.ru.ac.za, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-FAQ@freefall.FreeBSD.org From: maher@azstarnet.com (maher katbah) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk What is the specific line I need to add to /etc/ttys to setup the modem, assuming that I want to connect it to cuaa1? and is there any thing else I need to do in the server to be able to dial in from a differant computer? also can I call from DOS computer to the server? What is the name of the program that will allow me to dial out ? Do I really need CSU/DSU, terminal server, and router to be an ISP, or can I just use a modembank instead of the terminal server? where can I get some help to become an ISP ? Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 23:37:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA23154 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:37:55 -0700 Received: from web.azstarnet.com (azstarnet.com [169.197.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA23144 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:37:54 -0700 Received: from sprite184.azstarnet.com (sprite184.azstarnet.com [169.197.3.184]) by web.azstarnet.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA01135 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:37:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:37:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199508170637.XAA01135@web.azstarnet.com> X-Sender: maher@azstarnet.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: maher@azstarnet.com (maher katbah) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi: What is the specific line I need to add to /etc/ttys to setup the modem, assuming that I want to connect it to cuaa1? and is there any thing else I need to do in the server to be able to dial in from a differant computer? also can I call from DOS computer to the server? What is the name of the program that will allow me to dial out ? Do I really need CSU/DSU, terminal server, and router to be an ISP, or can I just use a modembank instead of the terminal server? where can I get some help to become an ISP ? Thank you From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 16 23:40:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA23589 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:40:45 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA23583 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:40:42 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA01160; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:43:10 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508170713.QAA01160@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Minimum Space, Release Date for 2.1 To: lpetrof@epix.net (Loren J. Petrof) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:43:09 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508170612.CAA05982@peach.epix.net> from "Loren J. Petrof" at Aug 17, 95 02:14:36 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 677 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Loren J. Petrof stands accused of saying: > > Two quickies..... > Minimum space required for 2.0.5 I've installed it on a 40M disk. > Release date for 2.1 Good question. > oh. and a third... > is it possible for this to run on a i286 No. Get minix 1.7.0 (ftp.cs.vu.nl) > Loren J. Petrof -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 00:36:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA25926 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:36:45 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA25912 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:36:40 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HU6BB84DCW007C5P@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:35:57 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id JAA16953; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:49:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:49:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: <199508170635.XAA00973@web.azstarnet.com> from "maher katbah" at Aug 16, 95 11:35:59 pm To: maher@azstarnet.com (maher katbah) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (user alias) Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199508170749.JAA16953@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 910 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > What is the specific line I need to add to /etc/ttys to setup the modem, > assuming that I want to connect it to cuaa1? and is there any thing else I # Serial terminals cuaa1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.57600" dialup on > need to do in the server to be able to dial in from a differant computer? > also can I call from DOS computer to the server? > > What is the name of the program that will allow me to dial out ? cu tip kermit (optionally from ports) > > Do I really need CSU/DSU, terminal server, and router to be an ISP, or can I > just use a modembank instead of the terminal server? You can use a multiport card (Digiboard? - don't know the brand name) > > where can I get some help to become an ISP ? > > Thank you Put please don't post 5 fold to the lists again. freebsd-questions would have been sufficient. > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 00:40:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA26143 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:40:03 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA26137 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:40:02 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA248395197; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:39:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199508170739.AA248395197@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA139275195; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:39:55 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: g++ collect2 and c'tors symbols ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 17:39:55 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone know what symbols or pattern (gcc/g++) collect2 look for to locate all the constructors ? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 00:50:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA26849 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:50:37 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA26843 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:50:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA19129; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:50:26 -0700 To: maher@azstarnet.com (maher katbah) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 1995 23:35:59 PDT." <199508170635.XAA00973@web.azstarnet.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:50:26 -0700 Message-ID: <19127.808645826@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk First off, PLEASE do not send messages like this to every single mailing list when one obvious one, "questions", will do just as well! If you're trying to be utterly ignored by an irate FreeBSD populace, you're doing it the right way! > What is the specific line I need to add to /etc/ttys to setup the modem, You could say "man ttys" and get much of this information, but the following line will do it: ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on secure > need to do in the server to be able to dial in from a differant computer? Nope. > also can I call from DOS computer to the server? Assuming you have some DOS comms program, sure. > What is the name of the program that will allow me to dial out ? tip > Do I really need CSU/DSU, terminal server, and router to be an ISP, or can I > just use a modembank instead of the terminal server? It depends on what you're trying to do - do you want to provide lots of lines coming in, or what? There are different needs for different types of service. > where can I get some help to become an ISP ? There is a good web page for this but unfortunately I don't seem to have the URL in my hotlist. Perhaps someone else will remember and can tell you where it is. > Thank you You're welcome. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 00:58:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA27369 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:58:00 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAB27362 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:57:50 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA19978 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:00:05 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:01:12 +0300 To: Michael Smith From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: >> I am very dissapointed: Adding second SCSI disk drive to the FreeBSD system >> seems to be very complicated! > >Nooo, it's very trivial. I can't understand why people have so much >trouble with it 8( Maybe it is not so trivial? People do not usually ask if things are trivial. Maybe people have different views what is trivial and what is not ;-) For me: The fdisk + disklabel in the FreeBSD 2.0.5 installation "script" is trivial (if we assume that it is finding the correct geometry). Using fdisk and writing disklabel entry after reading man fdisk and man disklabel does not success most of us (?) in 8 hours if we have no real good samples or someone telling you how to do it. Why does the (Standalone) Install not have the command "Write Disklabel Now!"? Is there some technical problem? Or do you just think the procedure in Install is more complicated than doing it with fdisk+disklabel+newfs? >> Is one solution to make new disk with root partition only and install some >> minimal system on it? > >No. Feed the disk to fdisk -i, then disklabel it, then newfs your >filesystems. Should take all of a minute or two, once you work out >what's going on. Most of Unix managing is very simple and fast--if you know what to do and how. The problem is usually knowing what and how to do. Reading the manuals of fdisk, disklabel and newfs takes more than 1-2 minutes and understanding them takes hours. >> 2. How is it possible that this is not a FAQ? > >It _is_ a FAQ, but nobody's written an entry for it. Tell you what, >if you want, I'll talk you through it & you can write the entry. Deal? 8) I did it like this: First: I did use Linux fdisk (sorry). I could not understand FreeBSD fdisk questions. Maybe I did not use fdisk -i, just fdisk and got lost. Create Extended partition (?) and set code 165 to the partition type (convert to hex first) Second: I did write entry st31230n|Sepon Levy: \ :ty=winchester:dt=scsi:se#512:nt#64:ns#32:nc#1010:\ :pa#2068448:oa#0:ba#4096:fa#512:ta=4.2BSD: \ :pc#2068448:oc#0: Explanations: st31230n is the name for this entry, use the disk type as name Sepon Levy is the label of the disk se#512 is the total sector count of the disk, look the papers with the disk (?) Next parameters for partition a (root) (Remember, a=root, b=swap, c=total disk, e,f,g are other partitions you can use) ps#2068448 is the total block count (=se*nt*ns-something? uh ...) oa# is the ofset of partition a, this starting from 0 ba# minimum space reservation unit (4096 bytes, multible of 512) fa# is the physical block size (?) Next paramters for partition c (the whole disk) pc# block count of whole disk oc# zero only valid value The I did something like disklabel -r -s sd1 st31230n then newfs /dev/sd1a I think it is very complicated. Actually I did add a swap partition also, but cannot remember the parameters for disktab, they take some time to calculate (more than 1-2 minutes). Writing FAQ for this is not easy. One should explain main parameters in the disktab entry and how to use fdisk. newfs is easy. Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 01:23:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA28024 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:23:08 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA28018 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:23:04 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA01430; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:25:36 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508170855.SAA01430@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:25:35 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Aug 17, 95 11:01:12 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2893 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: > Maybe it is not so trivial? People do not usually ask if things are > trivial. Maybe people have different views what is trivial and what is not Based on recent evidence, I'd say that lots of people find it easier to ask someone else than work it out themselves. That's fair enough, but answering questions like that is paid work, not fun. > Why does the (Standalone) Install not have the command "Write Disklabel > Now!"? Is there some technical problem? Or do you just think the procedure > in Install is more complicated than doing it with fdisk+disklabel+newfs? It doesn't have it because a) it's dangerous, and b) because Jordan & co. were flat out writing what _is_ in there 8) > Most of Unix managing is very simple and fast--if you know what to do and > how. The problem is usually knowing what and how to do. And like everything from cooking to sex, the best way to find out is to try. Hell, it's a brand new disk, with no data on it - it's not like you're dicing with death there. > Reading the manuals of fdisk, disklabel and newfs takes more than 1-2 > minutes and understanding them takes hours. All of the fdisk manual I read was 'fdisk -i... interactive...'. Granted, I've got a pretty good idea of what it's trying to do, but once that's dealt with the actual process is relatively straightforward. On reflection, I've done this enough that I can't claim to have an unbiased viewpoint anymore. > I did it like this: > > First: I did use Linux fdisk (sorry). I could not understand FreeBSD > fdisk questions. That's fine; the tools all do the same thing in the end. > Maybe I did not use fdisk -i, just fdisk and got lost. > Create Extended partition (?) and set code 165 to the partition type > (convert to hex first) > > Second: I did write entry Oh. One of them 8) I can't remember how long it's been since I used a disktab entry - disklabel -e is your friend 8) > Writing FAQ for this is not easy. One should explain main parameters in the > disktab entry and how to use fdisk. newfs is easy. The 'real' need here is for a simpler disk setup tool. Right now, the tools are close to the data they manipulate, but far away from the task that they perform together. It _should_ be possible to point a tool at a disk, and say "make me space there, slave". I'm trying to work out whether I have a spare disk to work with 8( > +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 01:23:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA28059 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:23:27 -0700 Received: from cec.wustl.edu (cec.wustl.edu [128.252.158.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA28053 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:23:26 -0700 Received: from mattrose (dialin-42.wustl.edu) by cec.wustl.edu (5.x/ECL-A1.27) id AA01935; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 03:23:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9508170823.AA01935@cec.wustl.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:21:59 -0500 From: Matt Rosenberg X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2b5 (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Multiple Adaptec 2742W's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Apparently 2.0.5 is not compatable with more than 1 Adaptec 2742W. I can add the second device line in the kernel configuration, and it will probe the bus for the second adaptor correctly (it probes both correctly). However, the kernel will continue to probe the remaining devices and at the end of the probing phase, right before the swap is turned on and the file systems mounted, the system locks up. I've tried different IRQ's for the two adaptors. I've also tried the same IRQ with the conflicts keyword added in the second device line. Same results - the adaptor and its bus are probed correctly but the system locks up before the file systems are mounted. Each adaptor has exactly one Seagate 43401N (Elite 3) drive. The first drive is assigned sd0 according to the messages and the second drive sd1, just as would be expected. BTW, although the Seagate 43401N _is_ a wide SCSI device if the 2742W is configured to "initiate wide negotiation" for the 43401N, FreeBSD 2.0.5 will not probe the device correctly. It doesn't make a difference to DOS whether that flag is turned on. ============================================= Matt Rosenberg Washington University School of Law St. Louis, MO, USA mar7@cec.wustl.edu ; rosenbem@wulaw.wustl.edu http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~mar7/ ============================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 01:52:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA29315 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:52:31 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA29309 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:52:24 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HU6DV118PC007DCM@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:49:11 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id LAA17167; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:02:51 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:02:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: Questions about FreeBSD In-reply-to: <199508161748.KAA16805@freefall.FreeBSD.org> from "WWW Form" at Aug 16, 95 10:48:20 am To: edw@nchgr.nih.gov (WWW Form) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (user alias) Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199508170902.LAA17167@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 617 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The machine this came from was: (null) > > Could you direct me to where I can ask a question about FreeBSD. I have a two disk Pentium system, disk 1 is Windows 95 and disk 2 is FreeBSD. When I upgraded I lost the boot manager and can not figure out the process to be able to boot between the 'DOS' vs "FreeBSD". I thought this was done at the fdisk level but am at a lost. Any direction is appreciated. > Try to get osbs135.exe or osbsbeta.exe from the tools dir of the 2.0.5 distribution (CD) (e.g. gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de) > Thanks > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 01:59:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA29566 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:59:38 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA29554 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 01:59:15 -0700 Received: (from uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13553 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:58:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:58:34 +0200 From: Lars koeller Message-Id: <199508170858.KAA13553@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 02:27:27 -0700 Received: (from piero@localhost) by strider.ibenet.it (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA05108; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:29:19 +0200 From: Piero Serini Message-Id: <199508170929.LAA05108@strider.ibenet.it> Subject: Re: Anonymous Account with ftpd To: root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:29:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" at Aug 16, 95 06:18:14 pm Reply-To: Piero@strider.ibenet.it Operating-System: FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 X-Phone-Number: +39 (2) 58113562 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 539 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Quoting from Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT (Wed Aug 16 20:18:14 1995): > I would like to continue to have ~ftp in /usr/home/ftp, but would > like ~ftp/pub to point to /usr2/pub, i.e. My other HD... You should mount the second hard disk (or a partition of) on /usr/home/ftp. You should also reduce your signature. Bye, -- # $Id: .signature,v 1.12 1995/08/14 12:10:54 piero Exp $ Piero Serini Via Giambologna, 1 I 20136 Milano - ITALY From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 03:07:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA02317 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 03:07:09 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA02311 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 03:07:05 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA22334 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:09:19 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:10:59 +0300 To: Michael Smith From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 18:25 17/8/95, Michael Smith wrote: >Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: >> Maybe it is not so trivial? People do not usually ask if things are >> trivial. Maybe people have different views what is trivial and what is not > >Based on recent evidence, I'd say that lots of people find it easier to >ask someone else than work it out themselves. That's fair enough, but >answering questions like that is paid work, not fun. Yes. It is waste of energy if everyone reads man fdisk, man disklabel man newfs 8 hours. It is better if we somehow deliver the info to everybody. Good way is WWW/FAQs other is News/Email but news and email second best. >> Why does the (Standalone) Install not have the command "Write Disklabel >> Now!"? Is there some technical problem? Or do you just think the procedure >> in Install is more complicated than doing it with fdisk+disklabel+newfs? > >It doesn't have it because a) it's dangerous, and b) because Jordan & co. >were flat out writing what _is_ in there 8) fdisk, disklabel, newfs are very dangerous also! Usuallu people do the more errors the harder the tools are to use. >And like everything from cooking to sex, the best way to find out is to try. >Hell, it's a brand new disk, with no data on it - it's not like you're >dicing with death there. Yes. But I am sure if you have good guide it is more fun and you do not have to try the wrong ways so many times ;-) We have all only 24 hour days. >All of the fdisk manual I read was 'fdisk -i... interactive...'. Granted, >I've got a pretty good idea of what it's trying to do, but once that's >dealt with the actual process is relatively straightforward. Agreed, man fdisk is short. fdisk is hard to understand. >> First: I did use Linux fdisk ... > >That's fine; the tools all do the same thing in the end. Yes ... but you must first get Llinux fdisk somehow ... it is notincluded to the FreeBSD distribution. ;-) >Oh. One of them 8) I can't remember how long it's been since I used a >disktab entry - disklabel -e is your friend 8) Uhhhh ... we have so many possibilities do everyting wrong, stupid, etc. ways. That is why wee need some examples at least. Adding one more disk is quite common thing. >> Writing FAQ for this is not easy. One should explain main parameters in the >> disktab entry and how to use fdisk. newfs is easy. > >The 'real' need here is for a simpler disk setup tool. Right now, the tools >are close to the data they manipulate, but far away from the task that >they perform together. It _should_ be possible to point a tool at a disk, >and say "make me space there, slave". > >I'm trying to work out whether I have a spare disk to work with 8( Great. Who could add these hints to the FreeBSD Doc project under the tittle "How to add SCSI disk" (Or how was it) We do not have complete text ready yet. Here some guidelines: Give command fdisk -i sd1 # assuming your SCSI dis id is 1 Define the partititions you need: a = root b = swap e,f = other partitions Give command disklabel -e sd1 Give command newfs /dev/sd1a # if you have defined partition a newfs /dev/sd1e # if you have defined partition e Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 03:33:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA03013 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 03:33:22 -0700 Received: from nic.lth.se (nic.lth.se [130.235.20.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA03002 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 03:33:19 -0700 Received: from roma.axis.se (root@roma.axis.se [193.44.28.2]) by nic.lth.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA12898 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:33:07 +0200 Received: from axisab.axis.se by roma.axis.se with smtp (Smail3.1.29.0 #1) id m0sj2H9-000mE5C; Thu, 17 Aug 95 12:34 MET DST Received: from axis.se by axisab.axis.se with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sj2G0-000pg6C; Thu, 17 Aug 95 12:33 MET DST Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: X on Thinkpad 370c? X-Face: ";qfS@AVy6@.5R{>2LcAxmyV?RZ~3m^^du$]?z-ay|Oy,;y_(&j}Rlxyd}.[< cfx7Fu-c;Mk:_tYRh!)\:nB}b/`/eq'td^-efI\>:@m0`(BL/:H5NU]|MFw`* %R%$Vk+4_-h];!_wh)sPEg|KeGbQN9xY2i7jg/0<6;lmw"IIN9TWn0+>|}J.S KMh9gO$Aa`@U~s Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:33:03 +0200 From: Joergen Haegg Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone been able to run XFree86 on a Thinkpad 370c? (I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5R) Configuration files and other hints are welcome. J=F6rgen H=E4gg Postmaster Axis Communications AB Snailmail: Axis Communications AB Phone: +46 46 191849 Scheelevaegen 16 Fax: +46 46 136130 S-223 70 LUND, Sweden From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 05:10:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA06549 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 05:10:48 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (pain.csrv.uidaho.edu [129.101.114.109]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA06543 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 05:10:46 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA21425; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 05:09:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199508171209.FAA21425@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu> To: Nik Clayton cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: questions-digest V1 #68 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Aug 1995 18:12:19 PDT." <199508170112.SAA08392@freefall.FreeBSD.org> X-Web: <"http://www.cs.uidaho.edu:8000/"> X-OS: 4.4BSD derivatives Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 05:09:34 -0700 From: Faried Nawaz Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Nik Clayton wrote... Can it be done? My 2.0R yp(4) manual page says that server code hasn't been written yet. I was wondering if it was working for .0.5? yes, it can be done. at the very least you need to edit /etc/sysconfig and set a domainname on all the servers/clients type 'domainname your_domain_name' or reboot the machines run ypserv on the servers run yppasswdd on the main nis server (if you need to) run ypbind on the clients (your server(s) may be clients too) edit /etc/sysconfig and set nis_clientflags="-s" yppasswddflags="-m /var/yp/master.passwd -s -f"(if you need to) on the server(s) cd to /var/yp and edit the Makefile, change what you need create a ypservers file which lists all the nis servers place the master.passwd file in /var/yp (if you need to) run `make' i may be wrong on the ordering of the above actions. i remember someone talking about a problem pushing out maps to slave servers, but i can't remember the fix. you can recompile ypserv to use the tcp_wrappers library if you have libwrap.a and tcpd.h lying around. you'll have libwrap.a installed in /usr/local/lib if you compiled the tcp_wrappers port. the file `tcpd.h' doesn't get installed by default (maybe the port should do that?); you need to unpack the sources to get it. cd to /usr/src/gnu/usr.sbin/ypserv and edit the Makefile. add CFLAGS+=-I/usr/local/include (or wherever tcpd.h is for you) LDADD+= -L/usr/local/lib -lwrap (or wherever libwrap.a is for you) and change -DTCP_WRAPPER=0 to =1 and do 'make obj depend all install clean'. you'll want to add an entry to /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} for ypserv. i'm currently running nis with the md5 passwords between two -current machines. i'll try to finish the nis handbook documentation this weekend. faried, who's on questions-digest. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 05:11:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA06648 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 05:11:34 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA06641 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 05:11:32 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA24675 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:14:18 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:15:23 +0300 To: John Capo From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Trivial as long as you understand that fdisk is broken. Here some instructions how to do this trivial thing (add one more disk using DOS fdisk, FreeBSD fdisk, disklabel -e): 1. As long as the FreeBSD fdisk does not find correct geometry of SCSI disks make in DOS a whole disk size partition (if possible) into the disk 2. Start FreeBSD and # fdisk -i /dev/sd1 # Assuming your disk is at address 1 in SCSI bus ******* Working on device /dev/sd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Do you want to change our idea of what BIOS thinks ? [n] n Answear n, this should be no correct if you did some partition in DOS. Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) start 32, size 165856 (80 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 80/ sector 32/ head 63 Do you want to change it? [n] I do not know about the warning ... But everything should be now OK. Answear y, you have to correct the sysid it is 165 for FreeBSD And you will get: Supply a decimal value for "sysid" [0] 165 Supply a decimal value for "start" [0] 32 Supply a decimal value for "size" [0] 165856 Explicitly specifiy beg/end address ? [n] n sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 32, size 165856 (80 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 80/ sector 32/ head 63 Are we happy with this entry? [n] y Now it is correct, partition 1-3 are unused The data for partition 1 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n The data for partition 2 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n The data for partition 3 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n Do you want to change the active partition? [n] n We haven't changed the partition table yet. This is your last chance. parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Information from DOS bootblock is: 0: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 32, size 165856 (80 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; end: cyl 80/ sector 32/ head 63 1: 2: 3: Should we write new partition table? [n] y Now everything sould be correct. Answear y. I am getting ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device But it seems that the partition is correct. 2. Start disklabel -e /dev/sd1 Yu will get this kind of screen: # /dev/sd1: type: unknown disk: label: koe flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 1923 sectors/unit: 167301 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 167301 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 81*) Thats it. What then? I cannot go forward Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 06:24:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA10076 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:24:58 -0700 Received: from union4.su.swin.edu.au (union4.su.swin.edu.au [136.186.25.67]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA10070 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:24:55 -0700 Received: by union4.su.swin.edu.au (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id NAA26541; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:24:52 GMT Message-Id: <199508171324.NAA26541@union4.su.swin.edu.au> Subject: Web-browser? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:24:52 +1000 (EST) From: "Craig Silva" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 546 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I must be dumb but can anyone point me to a port or package for an XFree86 web browser TIA Craig ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Craig Silva - Swinburne Student Union \ Appropriate nonsense | | Melbourne, Australia. +61 39 214 5448 \ about disregarding anything | | craig@union4.su.swin.edu.au \ my boss says...... | | Know thy thy friend \ | | http://www.su.swin.edu.au/~craig/welcome.html | From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 06:36:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA11172 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:36:46 -0700 Received: from netmail.austin.ibm.com (netmail.austin.ibm.com [129.35.208.98]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA11157 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:36:42 -0700 Received: from mojave.austin.ibm.com (mojave.austin.ibm.com [129.35.128.45]) by netmail.austin.ibm.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA52269; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:33:30 -0500 Received: from localhost.austin.ibm.com by mojave.austin.ibm.com (AIX 9532A-UP 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-client-2.6) for msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au at austin.ibm.com; id AA24690; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:33:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9508171333.AA24690@mojave.austin.ibm.com> To: uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org (Frank Durda IV) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Michael Smith Subject: Re: problems with matcd0 on Packard Bell Force 442CDT on 2.0.5 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:33:15 -0500 From: Dave Marquardt Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Aug 95 19:51 CDT Frank Durda IV wrote: > [0]I own a Packard Bell Force 442CDT system, which has > [0]... > [0]Sound144 card, which includes > [0] 14.4K fax/data modem > [0] SoundBlaster compatible sound functions > ***********!!!!!********** > [0] MPU401 MIDI port > [0] Game port > [0] Panasonic/Matsushita CR-563 CD-ROM interface > [0]2X CD-ROM drive > > [0]I'm running FreeBSD 2.0.5, and I've managed to get everything to work > [0]EXCEPT the CD-ROM drive. I've configured matcd0 with the default line > [0]from the LINT config file, and the probe code doesn't see the CD-ROM. > [0]I tried looking at how things are configured on the DOS/Windows side, > [0]and I did find that the CD-ROM port was 0x340. I don't know if this [ much good stuf deleted ] > To support NON-Creative Labs sound cards Panasonic CD-ROM interfaces, you > need the latest matcd driver, which can be found in -current and hopefully > soon in a SNAP. It will also be in FreeBSD 2.1. Thanks for the help! I grabbed the version of the matcd driver from the 950726 SNAP, and it seems to work just fine. I suspect I can live with the version I have (1(21)) until 2.1. Thanks again! -- Dave Marquardt SMTP: marquard@austin.ibm.com VNET: MARQUARD at AUSTIN T/L 678-1139 +1 512 838-1139 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 06:44:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA11852 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:44:21 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (pain.csrv.uidaho.edu [129.101.114.109]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA11836 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:44:16 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA22179 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:44:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199508171344.GAA22179@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: objC on freebsd 2.0.5 (or -current) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:44:08 -0700 From: Faried Nawaz Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hi, i need objective C. need need need. how do i go about getting objC made with gcc? it seems that the bmaked gcc distribution will build only gcc and g++. do i need to go out and get 2.6.3 and compile that? will i need to add/make any freebsd-specific patches? thanks, faried. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 06:59:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA12870 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:59:00 -0700 Received: from irbs.irbs.com (irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA12864 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 06:58:55 -0700 Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA00763; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:58:37 -0400 From: John Capo Message-Id: <199508171358.JAA00763@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Aug 17, 95 03:15:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 6533 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Seppo Kallio writes: > > >Trivial as long as you understand that fdisk is broken. > > Here some instructions how to do this trivial thing (add one more disk > using DOS fdisk, FreeBSD fdisk, disklabel -e): > > 1. As long as the FreeBSD fdisk does not find correct geometry of SCSI disks > make in DOS a whole disk size partition (if possible) into the disk > > 2. Start FreeBSD and > # fdisk -i /dev/sd1 # Assuming your disk is at address 1 in SCSI bus > ******* Working on device /dev/sd1 ******* > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > Do you want to change our idea of what BIOS thinks ? [n] n > > Answear n, this should be no correct if you did some partition in DOS. > > Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 > Information from DOS bootblock is: > The data for partition 0 is: > sysid 6,(Primary 'big' DOS (> 32MB)) > start 32, size 165856 (80 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; > end: cyl 80/ sector 32/ head 63 > Do you want to change it? [n] > > I do not know about the warning ... > > But everything should be now OK. > > Answear y, you have to correct the sysid it is 165 for FreeBSD > > And you will get: > > Supply a decimal value for "sysid" [0] 165 > Supply a decimal value for "start" [0] 32 > Supply a decimal value for "size" [0] 165856 <<<<<---- 163840 (80 * 32 * 64) > Explicitly specifiy beg/end address ? [n] n > sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 32, size 165856 (80 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; <<<<<---- 0/1/0 > end: cyl 80/ sector 32/ head 63 <<<<<---- 79/32/63 > Are we happy with this entry? [n] y > It looks like you are trying to create an 80MB FreeBSD partition. Why so small? Fdisk is broken. It does not calculate the proper ending addresses. You should also be using the raw device /dev/rsd0. Answer y when fdisk asks: Explicitly specifiy beg/end address ? [n] y Supply a decimal value for "beginning cylinder" [0] Supply a decimal value for "beginning head" [0] Supply a decimal value for "beginning sector" [0] 1 Supply a decimal value for "ending cylinder" [0] 79 Supply a decimal value for "ending head" [0] 63 Supply a decimal value for "ending sector" [0] 32 Cylinder and head addressing is from 0 - n. Sector addressing is from 1 - n. For this 80MB partition, the start C/H/S should be 0/0/1. The end C/H/S should be 79/63/32. If you are trying to use the entire disk for FreeBSD, the start C/H/S is 0/0/1 and the end C/H/S is 1922/63/32. The variable that holds the cylinder parameter is only 8 bits. When fdisk shows you the partition, the cylinder will be 898, not 1922 that was entered. > Now it is correct, partition 1-3 are unused > > The data for partition 1 is: > > Do you want to change it? [n] n > The data for partition 2 is: > > Do you want to change it? [n] n > The data for partition 3 is: > > Do you want to change it? [n] n > > Do you want to change the active partition? [n] n > We haven't changed the partition table yet. This is your last chance. > parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: > cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 > parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: > cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) > > Information from DOS bootblock is: > 0: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) > start 32, size 165856 (80 Meg), flag 0 > beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 1; > end: cyl 80/ sector 32/ head 63 > 1: > 2: > 3: > Should we write new partition table? [n] y > > Now everything sould be correct. Answear y. > > I am getting > > ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device This is from using the block device rather than the raw device. > > But it seems that the partition is correct. > > 2. Start disklabel -e /dev/sd1 > Yu will get this kind of screen: > > # /dev/sd1: > type: unknown > disk: > label: koe > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 32 > tracks/cylinder: 64 > sectors/cylinder: 2048 > cylinders: 1923 > sectors/unit: 167301 <<<<<<<----- This is BOGUS > rpm: 0 > interleave: 0 > trackskew: 0 > cylinderskew: 0 > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > drivedata: 0 > > 3 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > c: 167301 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 81*) > > > Thats it. What then? > I cannot go forward > I have never used the -e option. I always build a disklabel in /etc/disktab and use disklabel -w -r sd1 label_name where label_name is an entry in /dec/disktab. The -e option looks like it will let you create the label with an editor. I just tried it on my -current system and the system hung. :-( If you are running 2.0.5 or later, partition c is the entire FreeBSD partition. Partition d is no longer special and can be used for a file system. Release 1.1.5.1 and earlier both c and d partitions are special. Partition b is a swap partition. The default device in fdisk is still /dev/rwd0d. Here are three entries for /etc/disktab for an 80MB partition and for the full disk. # 80MB disk1|Whatever Type Of Disk This Really Is: \ :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#64:ns#32:nc#80:\ :pa#163840:oa#0:ba#8192:fa#1024:ta=4.2BSD:\ :pc#163840:oc#0: # 1923MB with one file system disk2|Whatever Type Of Disk This Really Is: \ :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#64:ns#32:nc#1923:\ :pa#3938304:oa#0:ba#8192:fa#1024:ta=4.2BSD:\ :pc#3938304:oc#0: # 1923MB with two file systems and swap space in the middle disk2|Whatever Type Of Disk This Really Is: \ :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#64:ns#32:nc#1923:\ :pa#1903616:oa#0:ba#8192:fa#1024:ta=4.2BSD:\ :pb#131072:ob#1903616:tb=swap:\ :pc#3938304:oc#0:\ :pd#1903616:od#2034688:bd#8192:fd#1024:td=4.2BSD: Once you have a label on the disk you have to create the file systems with newfs. Run newfs -t 0 -u 0 sd1X for each of your file system partitions where X is a, d, e, f, g, or h. The -t 0 -u 0 arguments tell newfs to use the track and sector info in the label rather than the compiled in defaults. Hope this helps. John Capo IRBS Engineering From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 07:02:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA13208 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 07:02:08 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA13197 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 07:02:02 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA26594 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:00:59 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:02:27 +0300 To: Michael Smith From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Cc: jc@irbs.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> Why does the (Standalone) Install not have the command "Write Disklabel >> Now!"? Is there some technical problem? Or do you just think the procedure >> in Install is more complicated than doing it with fdisk+disklabel+newfs? > >It doesn't have it because a) it's dangerous, and b) because Jordan & co. >were flat out writing what _is_ in there 8) I did it like this: 1. Started the FreeBSD from installation floppy 2. Started to install FreeBSD to the sd1 normally (not sd0!) 3. I did define / and swap partitions to the disk 4. Selected games only (custom distribution) 5. Intended to load games -- was complaining about /usr partition, but did accept 6. Download did fail because I did have wrong IRQ on my EtherLink III (ep0 config, default is 10, I have 5 and did not remember change it) It did not effect the disk partitions. So, I got a disk ready with some system software on it, /etc, /stand ... I think the sd0 was not harmed, carefull installer would disconnect power cable from the system disk (sd0). I did delete extra etc etc. and disk was ready. I think this is easy and takes only 4-5 minutes! BUT DO NOT USE /stand/sysinstall! I did try it also, but it is writing parameters to the running system /etc for example. Boot from FreeBSD boot floppy. I try to do some more test tomorrow. What you think? I do not understand how you define partitions without editing /etc/disktab entry. I do not know how to use the output of disktab -e /dev/sd0, how do I define swap etc. into it. Man disklabel does not tell it. BTW I have AHA2940 Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 07:54:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA16539 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 07:54:31 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA16529 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 07:54:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199508171454.HAA16529@freefall.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.FreeBSD.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Matt Rosenberg cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple Adaptec 2742W's In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 95 03:21:59 CDT." <9508170823.AA01935@cec.wustl.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 07:54:26 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Apparently 2.0.5 is not compatable with more than 1 Adaptec >2742W. I can add the second device line in the kernel >configuration, and it will probe the bus for the second adaptor >correctly (it probes both correctly). However, the kernel will >continue to probe the remaining devices and at the end of the >probing phase, right before the swap is turned on and the file >systems mounted, the system locks up. I've tried different >IRQ's for the two adaptors. I've also tried the same IRQ with >the conflicts keyword added in the second device line. Same >results - the adaptor and its bus are probed correctly but the >system locks up before the file systems are mounted. Each >adaptor has exactly one Seagate 43401N (Elite 3) drive. The >first drive is assigned sd0 according to the messages and the >second drive sd1, just as would be expected. Are you sure that the BIOS for the second card is disabled or in a region that doesn't conflict with any other card in your system. I've seen the same sort of symptom when the BIOS region overlapped an ethernet cards shared mem location. The IRQs must not be shared for EISA versions of this card (I know you've tried this). What IRQs are you using? Are you sure that nothing else is using those IRQs? >BTW, although the Seagate 43401N _is_ a wide SCSI device if the >2742W is configured to "initiate wide negotiation" for the >43401N, FreeBSD 2.0.5 will not probe the device correctly. It >doesn't make a difference to DOS whether that flag is turned >on. Can you try the latest SNAP-shot floppy? Its not quite the latest code, but it is much closer than 2.0.5. >============================================= >Matt Rosenberg >Washington University School of Law >St. Louis, MO, USA > >mar7@cec.wustl.edu ; rosenbem@wulaw.wustl.edu >http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~mar7/ >============================================= -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 08:15:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA18191 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:15:07 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA18185 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:15:02 -0700 Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id IAA15092; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:13:18 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa00671; 17 Aug 95 8:10 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA00526; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:58:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 00:58:58 -0700 From: Mark Diekhans Message-Id: <199508170758.AAA00526@Grizzly.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with an parallel TCP/IP interface. Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any suggestions on how to debug this problem with the lp TCP/IP driver on FreeBSD 2.0? I have a laplink cable between two parallel ports. Laplink works fine. BSD detects: Aug 17 00:17:14 osprey kernel: lpt0 at 0x3bc-0x3c3 irq 7 on isa Aug 17 00:17:14 osprey kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port Aug 17 00:17:14 osprey kernel: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface When I try to ping over lp0 the *other* system gets the error: lp0: Too many errors, Going off-line. netstat -i returns Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll lp0 1500 0 101 1 24 0 lp0 1500 lp-net 10.0.0.1 0 101 1 24 0 lo0 65532 1553 0 1553 0 0 lo0 65532 local-net localhost.0.0.1 1553 0 1553 0 0 the other side indicates that it got 1 input packet. Since tcpdump isn't supported by the lp driver, I am at loss on how to proceed. Any ideas? Thanks, Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 08:24:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA18937 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:24:48 -0700 Received: from unix10.pressimage.fr (unix10.pressimage.fr [194.2.222.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA18923 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:24:35 -0700 Received: from [194.2.222.120] (jc-mac.pressimage.net [194.2.222.120]) by unix10.pressimage.fr (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA05659; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:24:21 +0200 X-Sender: jc@mail.pressimage.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-NCC-RegID: fr.pressimage Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:24:21 +0200 To: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" From: jcaron@pressimage.net (Jacques Caron) Subject: Re: Anonymous Account with ftpd Cc: questions on FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 20:18 16/08/95, Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT wrote: > I'm having a heck of a time trying to allow ~ftp/pub >to point to a different directory (symbolic link). I'm using >wu-ftpd, and have created ~ftp with all the "suggested" file modes for >~ftp/bin, ~ftp/etc ... I'm guessing that the software was designed to not >allow changing directories to a symbolic link??? Is their any way to get >around this. > > I would like to continue to have ~ftp in /usr/home/ftp, but would >like ~ftp/pub to point to /usr2/pub, i.e. My other HD... When an anonymous user logs in, there is a chroot done to ~ftp. So /usr2/pub is in fact ~ftp/usr2/pub... You need to mount everything in ~ftp. Jacques. +-------------------------+------------------------+ |Jacques Caron | Pressimage Telematique | |jcaron@pressimage.net | 5/7 rue Raspail | |Tel: +33 (1) 49 88 63 56 | 93108 Montreuil Cedex | |Fax: +33 (1) 49 88 63 64 | France | +-------------------------+------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 08:29:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA19307 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:29:48 -0700 Received: from elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (elf.kendall.mdcc.edu [147.70.150.122]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA19300 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:29:40 -0700 Received: (from freelist@localhost) by elf.kendall.mdcc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA05418; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:21:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:21:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Don's FList drop" To: questions Subject: Re: Minimum Space, Release Date for 2.1 In-Reply-To: <199508170713.QAA01160@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Michael Smith wrote: > Loren J. Petrof stands accused of saying: > > is it possible for this to run on a i286 > > No. Get minix 1.7.0 (ftp.cs.vu.nl) Or find a used 386 motherboard on the net for <$70! (Then you get to run FreeBSD, _must_ be a better solution. ) I've bought butt-slow 386s that would allow me to use older memory from my 286s... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 08:34:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA19530 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:34:11 -0700 Received: from lashley.slip.netcom.com (lashley.slip.netcom.com [192.187.134.225]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA19521 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:34:05 -0700 From: patl@asimov.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org (asimov.volant.org [192.0.2.1]) by lashley.slip.netcom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA02235; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:33:04 -0700 Received: by asimov.volant.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28260; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:20:05 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:20:05 -0700 Message-Id: <9508171520.AA28260@asimov.volant.org> To: root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil, ywliu@lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw Subject: Re: Anonymous Account with ftpd Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |> > I would like to continue to have ~ftp in /usr/home/ftp, but would |> > like ~ftp/pub to point to /usr2/pub, i.e. My other HD... |> |> I don't think this can be done, since anonymous ftp account is chroot'ed. |> The symbolic , such as pub -> /usr2/pub , is not goning to work. Its root |> dir is ~ftp. |> |> What I have done is try to remount another partition under ~ftp/pub. Or |> using NFS to export /usr/pub to itself is another good try. Under SunOS/Solaris, this would normally be done using a loopback mount. (Faster than NFS, maintains unix semantics, and doesn't open the security hole of having an NFS server running...) I see that the mount(8) man page references mount_lofs, but there is no mount_lofs man page, nor is there an /sbin/mount_lofs. Does anyone know why loopback filesystem support seems to be missing from FreeBSD? -Pat From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 08:37:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA19772 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:37:47 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA19765 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:37:45 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA12523; Thu, 17 Aug 95 09:30:21 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508171530.AA12523@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: gnumalloc To: jiho@sierra.net Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 9:30:20 MDT Cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199508162205.AA01418@diamond.sierra.net> from "Jim Howard" at Aug 16, 95 01:35:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > But your rebuttal just provides another example of the point. In the > single-user desktop PC world, if things get THAT fouled up you just > re-install the whole system from scratch, with important files presumably > backed up securely. Your argument would be considered somewhere > pretty far out on the fringe, frankly. But even accepting it, why would > anyone consider putting /usr on a separately-mounted partition on any > machine except a server? What purpose is served [ ;) ] for a single-user > desktop machine? I, for one, thing that everything should be linked shared, period, and if you have aproblem with /usr/lib, you either duplicate the shared library and put it in /slib, under the mount point for /usr, or you make a /slib. SunOS, Solaris, UnixWare, and AIX all have less in the way of static binaries than FreeBSD does, in any case. I think the reinstall aregument is salient; that's what /stand and the bootfs file system is for inSVR4, and it's what a miniroot install is for SunOS and Solaris. > It still amazes me that, although most UNI* machines are single-user > workstations, it doesn't occur to people to reconsider the notion that > workstations should carry all the baggage that only multi-user servers > actually require. This one-size-fits-all approach has limited the > appeal of UNI*. (The hardware margins of workstation vendors, > however, have attracted a fair amount of envy in the PC clone market, > where everyone is counting on Windows 95 to prop things up.) I don't think people are advocating that, though there is sufficient "cruft" in the minimal distribution that could be pared out (ala the SCO system component installation paradigm) that it makes me wonder sometimes. > And since this all started with the memory usage of X and its clients: > How many sites do you know of, where the network transparency of X is > actually utilized as originally designed? What happened to the X terminal > market? NCD is still the leader, with HP not far behind. 8-). > I thought the newsgroups had been abandoned to arguments like > this.... 8-(. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 08:44:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA20455 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:44:53 -0700 Received: from maily2.prodigy.com (maily2.prodigy.com [192.207.105.41]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA20447 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 08:44:51 -0700 Received: from mail.prodigy.com (mail [199.4.137.13]) by maily2.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA65054 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:33:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:31:23 EDT From: DBXL43B@prodigy.com (MR MICHAEL K MARR) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-342.56] Message-Id: <013.09999470.DBXL43B@prodigy.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boot Manager? Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 come with some sort of Boot Manager? I want to use my second drive (Drive D) for FreeBSD and need a Boot Manager. (Kind of like OS/2's Boot Manager). PS: DOS will be on Drive C and on a partition on Drive D. Drive C = 560 Meg EIDE HDD Drive D = 1.26 Gig EIDE HDD Michael K. Marr From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 09:06:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA22298 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:06:33 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (lupine.nsi.nasa.gov [198.116.2.100]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA22290 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:06:29 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA02785; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:04:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: "Don's FList drop" cc: questions Subject: Re: Minimum Space, Release Date for 2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Don's FList drop wrote: > Or find a used 386 motherboard on the net for <$70! (Then you get to run > FreeBSD, _must_ be a better solution. ) I've bought butt-slow > 386s that would allow me to use older memory from my 286s... I go to a lot of computer shows and HAM fests (amateur radio operator swap meets); you can get TONS of great deals on stuff. I recently bought 3 WD8013E ethernet cards out of a box of junk for $1/ea. I figured one would be good. All three were... :-) I've also bought motherboards pretty cheap - like $15 for a 386sx16 - (barely) adequate to run FBSD as a router; and $40 for a 486sx new in the box. 'course you get what you pay for - used equipment isn't guaranteed to work!! :-) Check out "http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc/arrl/hamfests.html" for the list of ARRL sponsored ham fests. Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | work: http://www.eco.nsi.nasa.gov/~mnewell | | home: http://www.newell.arlington.va.us | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 09:08:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA22441 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:08:01 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA22428 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:07:56 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id LAA08766; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:56:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Problems with an parallel TCP/IP interface. To: Mark Diekhans cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508170758.AAA00526@Grizzly.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Mark Diekhans wrote: > When I try to ping over lp0 the *other* system gets the error: > > lp0: Too many errors, Going off-line. on host #1: /sbin/ifconfig lp0 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 on host #2: /sbin/ifconfig lp0 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.1 works well for me. i your hardware unusual in some way ? you can recompile the kernel with DEBUG defined in /sys/i386/isa/lpt.c to get additional information Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 09:13:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA22870 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:13:50 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA22862 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:13:44 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id MAA09016; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:02:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:02:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Boot Manager? To: MR MICHAEL K MARR cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <013.09999470.DBXL43B@prodigy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, MR MICHAEL K MARR wrote: > > Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 come with some sort of Boot Manager? I want > to use my second drive (Drive D) for FreeBSD and need a Boot Manager. > (Kind of like OS/2's Boot Manager). yes FreeBSD does come with a boo manager. when you 'commit' your changes to disk, you are given the option of installing the boot manager--booteasy-1.7 Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 09:22:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA23306 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:22:00 -0700 Received: from lashley.slip.netcom.com (lashley.slip.netcom.com [192.187.134.225]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA23290 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:21:54 -0700 From: patl@asimov.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org (asimov.volant.org [192.0.2.1]) by lashley.slip.netcom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA03665; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:20:17 -0700 Received: by asimov.volant.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA28342; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:07:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:07:18 -0700 Message-Id: <9508171607.AA28342@asimov.volant.org> To: jiho@sierra.net, terry@cs.weber.edu Subject: Re: gnumalloc Cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |> > It still amazes me that, although most UNI* machines are single-user |> > workstations, it doesn't occur to people to reconsider the notion that |> > workstations should carry all the baggage that only multi-user servers |> > actually require. This one-size-fits-all approach has limited the |> > appeal of UNI*. (The hardware margins of workstation vendors, |> > however, have attracted a fair amount of envy in the PC clone market, |> > where everyone is counting on Windows 95 to prop things up.) |> |> I don't think people are advocating that, though there is sufficient |> "cruft" in the minimal distribution that could be pared out (ala the |> SCO system component installation paradigm) that it makes me wonder |> sometimes. Actually, it has occurred to someone. Sun is working on a setup where the machine will have the minimum necessary to boot and talk to the network. Everything else it gets from a server and caches locally using the cache filesystem. This solves the problem that a typical un*x workstation only uses about 20% of the files in the distribution; but not necessarily the -same- 20%. They are thinking mostly in terms of laptops and other portable/nomadic machines; but it is a reasonable setup for typical sessile workstations as well. (Note that the cache survives re-boot, so locally cached files are still available even if the machine is not connected to the network.) -Pat From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 09:40:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA23818 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:40:52 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA23812 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:40:46 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA04647; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:40:36 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id MAA03986; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:40:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:40:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" cc: questions on FreeBSD Subject: Re: Anonymous Account with ftpd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT wrote: > > I'm having a heck of a time trying to allow ~ftp/pub > to point to a different directory (symbolic link). I'm using > wu-ftpd, and have created ~ftp with all the "suggested" file modes for > ~ftp/bin, ~ftp/etc ... I'm guessing that the software was designed to not > allow changing directories to a symbolic link??? Is their any way to get > around this. > > I would like to continue to have ~ftp in /usr/home/ftp, but would > like ~ftp/pub to point to /usr2/pub, i.e. My other HD... I looked at the ftp and ftpd manpages, and I think that whatever home directory you assign to the user 'ftp' in passwd, that becomes the home directory, or root, of an ftp user. That give you enough leeway? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 09:45:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA24050 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:45:11 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.76.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA24044 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:45:09 -0700 Received: (from tsai@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA00400 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:50:16 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:50:16 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508170950.JAA00400@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to run Xview and olvwm on BSD 2.0 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I am wondering how to run Xview and olvwm on BSD2.0. I have installed Xview and olvwm on my BSD 2.0, but I don't know how to start them. I have try to start olvwm in .xinitrc. It give me a 'memory fault' message then the screen go back to the shell. Please kindly advice. Thanks. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 7/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 09:57:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA24590 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:57:25 -0700 Received: from utrcgw.utc.com (utrcgw.utc.com [192.65.177.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24574 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 09:57:20 -0700 Received: from msghub.PWC.COM (141.119.54.168) by utrcgw.utc.com (PMDF #2906 ) id <01HU6IB06LHS002YCQ@utrcgw.utc.com>; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:55:50 EST Date: 17 Aug 1995 12:55:26 -0400 From: Giancarlo.Volpato@pwc.utc.com (Volpato Giancarlo) Subject: Installation Problem To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <01HU6IH6D4F691XM8I@MailHub.pwc.com> X-Envelope-to: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Mailer: Applixware 3.1(473) X-Status: N Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I've recently purchased 'Free BSD 2.0'. My installation of this product on my 486 pc is not progressing. A brief description of the target system is as follows: - Intel 486 / 33 MHz CPU - 8 Mb RAM - Boca IDE controller - 2 IDE 1.2 Gb Hard Disks (Maxtor) - Adaptec SCSI controller - 1 SCSI 200 Mb Hard Disk (Maxtor) - 1 Toshiba CDROM drive - Sound Blaster Pro Sound Card w/panasonic CDROM drive Preferably I would like to use the entire 2nd IDE hard disk for BSD Unix, the first occupied by DOS. The install goes fine until I accept to 'Proceed'. Within a minute, an error occurs and bounces me out of the install. The following is the error message that is reported: 1) Install (using standard install) Exec (/stand/newfs)failed, code = 9216 Progress write error : 204543 wtfs : Input/Output error 2) Install (using 'fix') Exec (/stand/newfs)failed, code = 8 Progress ** /dev/rwd0g BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG PS: Can the dual boot support 3 Operating systems? I would like to use my 3rd (SCSI) hard drive for OS2. If this can be accomplished, could you explain this procedure. Thanks, Carlo Volpato Voice: 514-677-9411 ext. 3131 Fax : 514-647-2702 Inet : Giancarlo.Volpato@PWC.UTC.COM --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:01:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA24966 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:01:57 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA24955 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:01:54 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA12709; Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:54:37 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508171654.AA12709@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and MacX To: allynh@avsi.com (Allyn Hardyck) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 10:54:37 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508170222.WAA08030@jupiter.avsi.com> from "Allyn Hardyck" at Aug 16, 95 10:22:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > How can I get my FreeBSD machine to accept requests to generate X > windows and send them back to a Mac running MacX? > > - Doing an "rsh fbsd-machine xterm -display fbsd-machine2..." on > fbsd-machine2 works, where both machine and machine2 are running > FreeBSD and fbsd-machine2 is in fbsd-machine's .rhosts. The program "xrsh" is superior for this application, but rsh works. > - Having a telnet window open to fbsd-machine on a Mac and running the > xterm back from there to the Mac works, if MacX is up on the Mac. > (i.e. not a problem with MacX) > > - Opening a window from inside MacX to a non-FreeBSD machine > works, using MacTCP Tool to send the name, password and display > information. (i.e. not a problem with MacX's password-passing > functions) I don't understand exactly what you are doing here. Are you consuming display services of an X server running on a FreeBSD machine using an X client on your Mac? This is the only scenario that makes sense for "Opening a window from inside MacX". This will work within the bounds of allowable host connections to the X server (ie: X0.hosts vs. the xhost command). > What doesn't work is opening a window from inside MacX to a > local FreeBSD machine. I'm assuming it's being paranoid about > stuff happening on not well known ports; a good thing, but how > do I selectively turn it off? What exactly happens when you "open a window from inside MacX"? Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:07:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA25377 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:07:40 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25371 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:07:38 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id MAA04600; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:37:52 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id MAA03953; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:37:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:37:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Jim Howard cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gnumalloc In-Reply-To: <199508162205.AA01418@diamond.sierra.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Aug 1995, Jim Howard wrote: > > I don't think you have the whole story, and I believe you might possibly > > be wrong about this administrator versus user mindset. One of the big > > reasons why you want stuff in the root partition to be statically linked > > is so that, in the situation where you've blown away something drastic in > > /usr, and can't mount it (and all of your shared libs), the tools that > > exist to allow you to (possibly) fix this still work. If everything is > > made dynamically linked, and you lose your libs, you're dead. If fact, I > > don't think you can even update your libs easily, because when you move > > them, every tool you have will die. > > But your rebuttal just provides another example of the point. In the > single-user desktop PC world, if things get THAT fouled up you just > re-install the whole system from scratch, with important files presumably > backed up securely. Your argument would be considered somewhere > pretty far out on the fringe, frankly. But even accepting it, why would > anyone consider putting /usr on a separately-mounted partition on any > machine except a server? What purpose is served [ ;) ] for a single-user > desktop machine? > > And how did this degenerate into an argument, anyway? Your > perspective is clearly different from mine. > > It still amazes me that, although most UNI* machines are single-user > workstations, it doesn't occur to people to reconsider the notion that > workstations should carry all the baggage that only multi-user servers > actually require. This one-size-fits-all approach has limited the > appeal of UNI*. (The hardware margins of workstation vendors, > however, have attracted a fair amount of envy in the PC clone market, > where everyone is counting on Windows 95 to prop things up.) Maybe I don't fit into your view of the types of people who run desktop PCs. Certainly most FreeBSD users are _far_ more aware of how their machines work that Joe Average PC user, who vaguely understands what a file is. That doesn't make me a genius (anyone who knows me, knows I'm not at that high a level with FreeBSD yet), it just makes me someone who enjoys being more in control of my tools. Certainly I would never consider dumping my disk because some technical mistake means that I have to make a 30 minute sojourn amongst my books. I don't think this makes me very different than most FreeBSD hackers, does it? I really don't want to 'dumb down', and would probably drop this OS if that became a major goal. Personally, I think there's very little chance of that happening. If this means that we'll never be as large a group as Windoze users, I can live with that, I've never been all that keen on running with the herd. Have you? > > And since this all started with the memory usage of X and its clients: > How many sites do you know of, where the network transparency of X is > actually utilized as originally designed? What happened to the X terminal > market? > > I thought the newsgroups had been abandoned to arguments like > this.... > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:17:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA25931 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:17:07 -0700 Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25909 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:17:02 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA26180; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:16:29 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199508171716.KAA26180@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: Usernames 8 chars max To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 626 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I've noticed that when using the getpwent(3) routines, if you've added a user whose username is more than 8 characters long (for example, using chpass -a), it won't be found, though the user does otherwise exist. Is this documented anywhere? Seems like it ought to be listed in the BUGS section of the getpwent(3) man page. Or is there a more universal understanding that usernames can't be longer than 8 chars? If so, where is this documented? Related question: is "doc@freebsd.org" the correct address to send man page & other documentation corrections? I sent something before but go no reply. Thanks! -Archie From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:17:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA25999 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:17:21 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25982 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:17:18 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA12603; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:13:25 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199508171713.KAA12603@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Aug 17, 95 01:10:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1105 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > At 18:25 17/8/95, Michael Smith wrote: > > Give command fdisk -i sd1 # assuming your SCSI disk id is 1 I'm not sure at the moment if -i implies -u (just checked.. it doesn't) but you need the -u if you want it to write anything.. -u for 'update' -i for 'initialise' to be SURE the new fdisk has been read I'd reboot, but bruce's changes might have noticed the new mbr being written.. so I'm not sure if that's needed any more.. > Give command disklabel -e sd1 > Define the partititions you need: > a = root > b = swap > e,f = other partitions > > > Give command newfs /dev/sd1a # if you have defined partition a > newfs /dev/sd1e # if you have defined partition e > > Seppo > > -- > +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ > ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! > ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! > +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:22:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA26434 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:22:54 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA26425 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:22:52 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA12812; Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:15:04 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508171715.AA12812@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: Boot Manager? To: jmb@kryten.Atinc.COM (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:15:04 MDT Cc: DBXL43B@prodigy.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Aug 17, 95 12:02:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler writes: > yes FreeBSD does come with a boo manager. when you 'commit' your > changes to disk, you are given the option of installing the boot > manager--booteasy-1.7 A: You should install FreeBSD! B: Installing *any* UNIX-like OS is too scary... A: Don't worry! FreeBSD comes with a "boo" manager! 8-) Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:28:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA26715 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:28:22 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA26708 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:28:20 -0700 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA03929; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:26:13 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id NAA04687; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:26:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:26:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Terry Lambert cc: jiho@sierra.net, freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gnumalloc In-Reply-To: <9508171530.AA12523@cs.weber.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > > But your rebuttal just provides another example of the point. In the > > single-user desktop PC world, if things get THAT fouled up you just > > re-install the whole system from scratch, with important files presumably > > backed up securely. Your argument would be considered somewhere > > pretty far out on the fringe, frankly. But even accepting it, why would > > anyone consider putting /usr on a separately-mounted partition on any > > machine except a server? What purpose is served [ ;) ] for a single-user > > desktop machine? > > I, for one, thing that everything should be linked shared, period, and > if you have aproblem with /usr/lib, you either duplicate the shared > library and put it in /slib, under the mount point for /usr, or you > make a /slib. If I got this next point wrong, I'm surprised, but I thought Jim was making a case for not having such areaa of non-shared tools, like /slib. Nor an /sbin. Didn't he say he'd link init shared? I agree on maximal sharing, but I _do_ leave myself an emergency recovery method. Jim was saying that if he needed an emergency recovery, he'd dump the whole installation and rebuild. I think that's overkill. > > SunOS, Solaris, UnixWare, and AIX all have less in the way of static > binaries than FreeBSD does, in any case. > > I think the reinstall aregument is salient; that's what /stand and the > bootfs file system is for inSVR4, and it's what a miniroot install is > for SunOS and Solaris. > > > It still amazes me that, although most UNI* machines are single-user > > workstations, it doesn't occur to people to reconsider the notion that > > workstations should carry all the baggage that only multi-user servers > > actually require. This one-size-fits-all approach has limited the > > appeal of UNI*. (The hardware margins of workstation vendors, > > however, have attracted a fair amount of envy in the PC clone market, > > where everyone is counting on Windows 95 to prop things up.) > > I don't think people are advocating that, though there is sufficient > "cruft" in the minimal distribution that could be pared out (ala the > SCO system component installation paradigm) that it makes me wonder > sometimes. > > > And since this all started with the memory usage of X and its clients: > > How many sites do you know of, where the network transparency of X is > > actually utilized as originally designed? What happened to the X terminal > > market? > > NCD is still the leader, with HP not far behind. 8-). > > > I thought the newsgroups had been abandoned to arguments like > > this.... > > 8-(. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@cs.weber.edu > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:31:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA26995 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:31:15 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA26987 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:31:11 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id NAA10945; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:19:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:19:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Boot Manager? To: Terry Lambert cc: DBXL43B@prodigy.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508171715.AA12812@cs.weber.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Terry Lambert wrote: > Jonathan M. Bresler writes: > > > yes FreeBSD does come with a boo manager. when you 'commit' your > > changes to disk, you are given the option of installing the boot > > manager--booteasy-1.7 > > > A: You should install FreeBSD! > > B: Installing *any* UNIX-like OS is too scary... > > A: Don't worry! FreeBSD comes with a "boo" manager! > > 8-) hahahhaahahah the boo manager is the daemon....that's one reason it smiles so much ;) the boot manager is booteasy. Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:48:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA27849 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:48:27 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA27842 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:48:26 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA12943; Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:40:57 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9508171740.AA12943@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: gnumalloc To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 11:40:57 MDT Cc: jiho@sierra.net, freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Aug 17, 95 01:26:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If I got this next point wrong, I'm surprised, but I thought Jim was > making a case for not having such areaa of non-shared tools, like /slib. > Nor an /sbin. Didn't he say he'd link init shared? I agree on maximal > sharing, but I _do_ leave myself an emergency recovery method. Jim was > saying that if he needed an emergency recovery, he'd dump the whole > installation and rebuild. I think that's overkill. I think you need root level system binaries to the point that /usr *can* be mounted seperately, even if it isn't the default case. I didn't get anything from Jim's post that would imply he thought otherwise, only that the argument of "what if this goes wrong AND this goes wrong AND this goes wrong..." is complicated to the point of a reinstall being a better option than worrying about contingencies to the point of losing sight of the real problem. Its the case of "don't optimize the boot code" or more colloquailly, "don't miss the forest for the trees". Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 10:56:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA28470 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:56:51 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil [129.52.114.42]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA28462 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 10:56:48 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00240; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:04:23 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:04:23 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean ROOT" To: patl@asimov.volant.org cc: ywliu@lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Resolved: Anonymous Account with ftpd In-Reply-To: <9508171520.AA28260@asimov.volant.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanx to everyone that helped, (about 8 people) The answer was to use mount_null /usr2/pub ~ftp/pub Worked great!!! Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - !! Garbage in, Garbage out !! - - ****************************************** - fact: UNIX Rules, NT does not. - - (*: PC-SUPPORT 88 CS/SCMNPC :*) ---------------------------------- - Computer Technician / Programmer - * Boy Scouts of America * - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - Assistant District commisioner - - __________________________________ On Thu, 17 Aug 1995 patl@asimov.volant.org wrote: > |> > I would like to continue to have ~ftp in /usr/home/ftp, but would > |> > like ~ftp/pub to point to /usr2/pub, i.e. My other HD... > |> > |> I don't think this can be done, since anonymous ftp account is chroot'ed. > |> The symbolic , such as pub -> /usr2/pub , is not goning to work. Its root > |> dir is ~ftp. > |> > |> What I have done is try to remount another partition under ~ftp/pub. Or > |> using NFS to export /usr/pub to itself is another good try. > > Under SunOS/Solaris, this would normally be done using a loopback mount. > (Faster than NFS, maintains unix semantics, and doesn't open the security > hole of having an NFS server running...) > > I see that the mount(8) man page references mount_lofs, but there is no > mount_lofs man page, nor is there an /sbin/mount_lofs. Does anyone know > why loopback filesystem support seems to be missing from FreeBSD? > > > > -Pat > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 11:08:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA29229 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:08:28 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.76.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA29221 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:08:27 -0700 Received: (from tsai@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00399 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:13:34 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:13:34 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171113.LAA00399@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I installed the MH 6.8.3 to my FreeBSD 2.0, but it seems not able to send any mail out. I am wondering what is the problem. Please kindly advice. Thanks. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 11:15:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA29597 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:15:06 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA29575 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:15:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA06884 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:14:05 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Stephen Tsai cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:13:34 GMT." <199508171113.LAA00399@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:14:04 +0100 Message-ID: <6882.808683244@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199508171113.LAA00399@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu>, Stephen Tsai writes: >Hi! I installed the MH 6.8.3 to my FreeBSD 2.0, but it seems not able to >send any mail out. I am wondering what is the problem. MH sends out e-mail by connecting to the smtp port of `localhost' (i.e. the local machine). You have to be running sendmail, and have it properly configured to work. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 11:24:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA00370 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:24:03 -0700 Received: from domus.domus.com (domus.domus.com [205.211.4.241]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA00349 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:23:53 -0700 Received: (from hellis@localhost) by domus.domus.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA17504; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:22:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:22:16 -0500 From: "Hugh S. Ellis" Message-Id: <199508171922.OAA17504@domus.domus.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP and serial line configuration FAQs for 1.1.5.1 Cc: hellis@domus.com Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to get PPP running on my 1.1.5.1 machine. Before I did anything so complex, I thought it would be good to use tip to check to see if I could really talk to the modem. Unfortunately, my devices do not seem to be configured properly, and I don't know how. I ran MAKEDEV on cua00 and cua01 and com1 and com2 and tty00 and tty01 with no luck. Is there a FAQ on setting up serial devices? Is there one on setting up PPP in version 1.something? The error message that I am getting says /dev/cua02: device not configured So how do I configure them? dmesg | grep sio reveals that the system sees the two serial ports sio0 and sio1 on IRQ 4 and 3, as normal. Any pointers would be appreciated. Hugh Ellis Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 11:29:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA00842 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:29:08 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.76.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA00836 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:29:06 -0700 Received: (from tsai@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00442; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:33:28 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:33:28 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171133.LAA00442@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> MH sends out e-mail by connecting to the smtp port of `localhost' >> (i.e. the local machine). You have to be running sendmail, and have it >> properly configured to work. >> >> Gary My machine is runing on a network. The local host does not running the sendmail. The sendmail only running on the server. I have no problem in sending mail form my computer without sendmail. I am wondering how can I make the mh work on my computer. Please tell me how to properly configure them. Thanks. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 11:40:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA01300 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:40:57 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA01293 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:40:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA06954 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:39:52 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Stephen Tsai cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:33:28 GMT." <199508171133.LAA00442@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:39:51 +0100 Message-ID: <6952.808684791@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199508171133.LAA00442@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu>, Stephen Tsai writes: >My machine is runing on a network. The local host does not running the >sendmail. The sendmail only running on the server. I have no problem in >sending mail form my computer without sendmail. I am wondering how can I >make the mh work on my computer. Please tell me how to properly >configure them. Thanks. You could perhaps recompile MH to use a different address for delivery, but one large installation (similar to yours by the sounds of it) handled MH by running minimal sendmail configs on each of the diskless clients which just punted the mail straight to a server which handled the onward delivery. You can do something similar, relatively easily, by running sendmail with a slight modification to the default sendmail.cf. Look for the lines: # "Smart" relay host (may be null) DS and change the 2nd line to read something like: DSyour.local.smart.host Replacing `your.local.smart.host' with the local server. The reason only MH does this, is that most other mailers feed the mail as a pipe into the stdin of /usr/sbin/sendmail. So in effect, even if you did not run sendmail -bd (to run it as a daemon), you still ran sendmail to send the mail out. MH just requires that the daemon be present. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 11:49:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA01698 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:49:47 -0700 Received: from cec.wustl.edu (cec.wustl.edu [128.252.158.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA01689 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:49:45 -0700 Received: from MATTROSE (dialin-42.wustl.edu) by cec.wustl.edu (5.x/ECL-A1.27) id AA05085; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:49:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:49:30 -0500 Message-Id: <9508171849.AA05085@cec.wustl.edu> X-Sender: mar7@cec.wustl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" From: mar7@cec.wustl.edu (Matt Rosenberg) Subject: Re: Multiple Adaptec 2742W's Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995 at 07:54:26 -0700, "Justin T. Gibbs" wrote: >>Apparently 2.0.5 is not compatable with more than 1 Adaptec >>2742W. I can add the second device line in the kernel >>configuration, and it will probe the bus for the second adaptor >>correctly (it probes both correctly). However, the kernel will >>continue to probe the remaining devices and at the end of the >>probing phase, right before the swap is turned on and the file >>systems mounted, the system locks up. I've tried different >>IRQ's for the two adaptors. I've also tried the same IRQ with >>the conflicts keyword added in the second device line. Same >>results - the adaptor and its bus are probed correctly but the >>system locks up before the file systems are mounted. Each >>adaptor has exactly one Seagate 43401N (Elite 3) drive. The >>first drive is assigned sd0 according to the messages and the >>second drive sd1, just as would be expected. > >Are you sure that the BIOS for the second card is disabled or >in a region that doesn't conflict with any other card in your >system. I've seen the same sort of symptom when the BIOS region >overlapped an ethernet cards shared mem location. The IRQs must >not be shared for EISA versions of this card (I know you've tried this). >What IRQs are you using? Are you sure that nothing else is using >those IRQs? Adaptec actually recommends using the same IRQ if the two cards are the model (which they are here). When trying the same IRQ, I've been using IRQ 11. When using the separate IRQ's, I've been using 11 and 12. I've checked closely for possible conflicts, but they do not exist. From the very beginning I've had the BIOS disabled for the second adaptor. >>BTW, although the Seagate 43401N _is_ a wide SCSI device if the >>2742W is configured to "initiate wide negotiation" for the >>43401N, FreeBSD 2.0.5 will not probe the device correctly. It >>doesn't make a difference to DOS whether that flag is turned >>on. > >Can you try the latest SNAP-shot floppy? Its not quite the latest >code, but it is much closer than 2.0.5. I'm using it as an active, up and running, web server, so I don't want to take it down many more times or much longer than possible. I did find a fix to that problem. Just turn off the "initiate wide negotiation" flag for the drive from the Adaptor configuration tool in DOS. When this flag is left on, FreeBSD reads the drive as a "S441 00427 1N" instead of "SEAGATE 43401N 0104"; the type is read as "type 0 fixed SCSI 3" instead of "type 0 fixed SCSI 2"; the size is read as 6528MB instead of the correct 2777MB; and this all causes the partition table to become undreadable, so I don't even have a chance to tell it the correct geometry. DOS doesn't seem to care if the flag is on or off, and the manual for the drive does say that it is a "wide SCSI" device, and its only I/O port is a 68-pin SCSI 3 port. *shrug* I don't know, I found a work-around. Give this to the hackers who wrote the driver for the adaptor. ============================================= Matt Rosenberg Washington University School of Law St. Louis, MO, USA mar7@cec.wustl.edu ; rosenbem@wulaw.wustl.edu http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~mar7/ ============================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 12:08:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA02389 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:08:04 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA02383 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:08:02 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (bsd1.keck.lmu.edu [157.242.76.5]) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA27784; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:15:12 GMT Received: (from tsai@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA00635; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:13:03 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:13:03 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171213.MAA00635@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> You could perhaps recompile MH to use a different address for >> delivery, but one large installation (similar to yours by the sounds >> of it) handled MH by running minimal sendmail configs on each of the >> diskless clients which just punted the mail straight to a server which >> handled the onward delivery. I really don't want to recompile MH. >> You can do something similar, relatively easily, by running sendmail >> with a slight modification to the default sendmail.cf. Look for the >> lines: >> >> # "Smart" relay host (may be null) >> DS >> >> and change the 2nd line to read something like: >> >> DSyour.local.smart.host >> >> Replacing `your.local.smart.host' with the local server. >> >> The reason only MH does this, is that most other mailers feed the mail >> as a pipe into the stdin of /usr/sbin/sendmail. So in effect, even if >> you did not run sendmail -bd (to run it as a daemon), you still ran >> sendmail to send the mail out. MH just requires that the daemon be >> present. I have modify the line in sendmail.cf as the following DSserver.keck.lmu.edu The server.keck.lmu.edu is the server machine of the network. But it does not seems to work. Could you please tell me what this entry mean and what might be the problem. Also, I have one entry in the sendmail.cf is modified so replied mails will be send to the server. The line is # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) DMserver.keck.lmu.edu I am wondering if this will have any problem with what you have just tell me to do. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 12:14:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA02639 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:14:02 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA02629 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:13:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199508171913.MAA02629@freefall.FreeBSD.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.FreeBSD.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: mar7@cec.wustl.edu (Matt Rosenberg) cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multiple Adaptec 2742W's In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 95 13:49:30 CDT." <9508171849.AA05085@cec.wustl.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:13:57 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >On Thu, 17 Aug 1995 at 07:54:26 -0700, >Adaptec actually recommends using the same IRQ if the two cards are the >model (which they are here). When trying the same IRQ, I've been using IRQ >11. When using the separate IRQ's, I've been using 11 and 12. I've checked >closely for possible conflicts, but they do not exist. From the very >beginning I've had the BIOS disabled for the second adaptor. And I tell you that FreeBSD does not support haveing them on the same IRQ. They must be different. >>>BTW, although the Seagate 43401N _is_ a wide SCSI device if the >>>2742W is configured to "initiate wide negotiation" for the >>>43401N, FreeBSD 2.0.5 will not probe the device correctly. It >>>doesn't make a difference to DOS whether that flag is turned >>>on. >> >>Can you try the latest SNAP-shot floppy? Its not quite the latest >>code, but it is much closer than 2.0.5. > >I'm using it as an active, up and running, web server, so I don't want to >take it down many more times or much longer than possible. I did find a fix >to that problem. Just turn off the "initiate wide negotiation" flag for the >drive from the Adaptor configuration tool in DOS. When this flag is left >on, FreeBSD reads the drive as a "S441 00427 1N" instead of "SEAGATE 43401N >0104"; the type is read as "type 0 fixed SCSI 3" instead of "type 0 fixed >SCSI 2"; the size is read as 6528MB instead of the correct 2777MB; and this >all causes the partition table to become undreadable, so I don't even have a >chance to tell it the correct geometry. DOS doesn't seem to care if the >flag is on or off, and the manual for the drive does say that it is a "wide >SCSI" device, and its only I/O port is a 68-pin SCSI 3 port. *shrug* I >don't know, I found a work-around. Give this to the hackers who wrote the >driver for the adaptor. Um... I am the "hacker who wrote the driver". The problem you're seeing has to do with wide residue on dealing with a wide device and has been fixed with the latest driver. If you're running a Web site, you should be running -stable anyway, so I would strongly suggest you upgrade especially if you are planning to use the 2742W. >============================================= >Matt Rosenberg >Washington University School of Law >St. Louis, MO, USA > >mar7@cec.wustl.edu ; rosenbem@wulaw.wustl.edu >http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~mar7/ >============================================= > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 12:15:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA02756 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:15:51 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA02746 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:15:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA07078 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:15:17 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Stephen Tsai cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:13:03 GMT." <199508171213.MAA00635@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:15:16 +0100 Message-ID: <7075.808686916@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199508171213.MAA00635@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu>, Stephen Tsai writes: >I really don't want to recompile MH. Understandable :-) >I have modify the line in sendmail.cf as the following > DSserver.keck.lmu.edu >The server.keck.lmu.edu is the server machine of the network. But it does not >seems to work. Could you please tell me what this entry mean and what might >be the problem. Problem probably is that you haven't started sendmail. You need to run `sendmail -bd' as root. The line means that the machine will not try to handle delivery of non-local e-mail (i.e. e-mail not destined for delivery on the local machine) itself, but send it to the specified machine for handling. >Also, I have one entry in the sendmail.cf is modified so >replied mails will be send to the server. The line is > # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) > DMserver.keck.lmu.edu >I am wondering if this will have any problem with what you have just tell >me to do. Shouldn't do. If you want *ALL* e-mail (even e-mail for local accounts) to go to the server, you'll probably want to set DH and/or DR also. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 12:25:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA03173 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:25:25 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA03167 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:25:23 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (bsd1.keck.lmu.edu [157.242.76.5]) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA27809; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:32:39 GMT Received: (from tsai@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA00678; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:30:30 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:30:30 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171230.MAA00678@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> Problem probably is that you haven't started sendmail. You need to run >> `sendmail -bd' as root. The MH must have sendmail running on the local machine to work. Am I right? If the local machine does not running sendmail then the MH will not work properly? >> The line means that the machine will not try to handle delivery of >> non-local e-mail (i.e. e-mail not destined for delivery on the local >> machine) itself, but send it to the specified machine for handling. But it seems not able to send the none-local e-mail to the server machine. >> If you want *ALL* e-mail (even e-mail for local accounts) to go to the >> server, you'll probably want to set DH and/or DR also. So I jsut have to set both DH and DR as DHserver.keck.lmu.edu DRserver.keck.lmu.edu Tell me if I do this wrong. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 12:30:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA03478 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:30:52 -0700 Received: from cec.wustl.edu (cec.wustl.edu [128.252.158.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA03469 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:30:49 -0700 Received: from MATTROSE (dialin-42.wustl.edu) by cec.wustl.edu (5.x/ECL-A1.27) id AA06142; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:30:38 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:30:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9508171930.AA06142@cec.wustl.edu> X-Sender: mar7@cec.wustl.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Justin T. Gibbs" From: mar7@cec.wustl.edu (Matt Rosenberg) Subject: Re: Multiple Adaptec 2742W's Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>Adaptec actually recommends using the same IRQ if the two cards are the >>model (which they are here). When trying the same IRQ, I've been using IRQ >>11. When using the separate IRQ's, I've been using 11 and 12. I've checked >>closely for possible conflicts, but they do not exist. From the very >>beginning I've had the BIOS disabled for the second adaptor. > >And I tell you that FreeBSD does not support haveing them on the same >IRQ. They must be different. I've tried using IRQ 11 for the first and IRQ 12 for the second and leaving the 'conflicts' keyword _OUT_ of the second device line, but I have the same exact problem. The kernel probes the bus on each adaptor correctly, and then continues correctly until the end of the device probing, but locks up before doing anything else. ============================================= Matt Rosenberg Washington University School of Law St. Louis, MO, USA mar7@cec.wustl.edu ; rosenbem@wulaw.wustl.edu http://www.cec.wustl.edu/~mar7/ ============================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 12:45:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA04089 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:45:15 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA04080 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:45:08 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA03225; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:42:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:42:21 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9508171942.AA03225@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: M C Wong Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Subject: g++ collect2 and c'tors symbols ? In-Reply-To: <199508170739.AA248395197@hp.com> References: <199508170739.AA248395197@hp.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Does anyone know what symbols or pattern (gcc/g++) collect2 look > for to locate all the constructors ? gcc/g++ doesn't use collect2 under FreeBSD. Rather, they emit N_SETT symbols for the linker sets __CTOR_LIST__ and __DTOR_LIST__. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 12:47:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA04257 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:47:58 -0700 Received: from cs.pdx.edu (cs.pdx.edu [131.252.20.183]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA04248 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:47:54 -0700 Received: (lix@localhost) by cs.pdx.edu (8.6.10/CATastrophe-12/23/94-P) id MAA20662; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:47:48 -0700 for Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: xiaoyin li To: FreeBSD Subject: floppy disk format Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to know how could I convert a dos formated floppy on FreeBSD system so that FreeBSD can read it. If someone can give me a hint how to do this, I would appreciate very much. Xiaoyin Li System Administrator PSU Bookstore Portland Oregon From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 13:10:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA04880 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:10:46 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA04873 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:10:42 -0700 Received: by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.15) via UUCP id AA21667 ; Thu, 17 Aug 95 16:10:14 -0400 Received: (from jan@localhost) by bagend.atl.ga.us (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA28099; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:02:43 -0400 From: Jan Isley Message-Id: <199508172002.QAA28099@bagend.atl.ga.us> Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! To: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu (Stephen Tsai) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508171230.MAA00678@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> from "Stephen Tsai" at Aug 17, 95 12:30:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 684 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Tsai wrote: > The MH must have sendmail running on the local machine to work. Am I > right? If the local machine does not running sendmail then the MH > will not work properly? The only alternatives I am aware of are: 1) install sendmail 2) write a program that pretends to be sendmail. this could be a short shell script that reads in a file and sends it to your smart host. 3) recompile mh I understand that you do not want to recompile mh, but it is very easy to do with the ports files. You can configure mh to do its own delivery, but you must recompile it to do so. 4) you *might* get mh to work with smail 2.5. it is very small and easy to configure. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 13:20:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA05279 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:20:59 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA05271 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:20:53 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (bsd1.keck.lmu.edu [157.242.76.5]) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA27923; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:28:10 GMT Received: (from tsai@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA00371; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:25:59 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:25:59 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171325.NAA00371@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: jan@bagend.atl.ga.us, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Cc: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> The only alternatives I am aware of are: >> >> 1) install sendmail The reason that I don't want to run sendmail on a local machine is that I want all the e-mail to be handled by the server mcchine of the network. So, this probably not a alternative for me. >> 2) write a program that pretends to be sendmail. this could be a short >> shell script that reads in a file and sends it to your smart host. >> 3) recompile mh >> I understand that you do not want to recompile mh, but it is very >> easy to do with the ports files. You can configure mh to do its >> own delivery, but you must recompile it to do so. I can recompile mh if it is really necessary and there is no other simple way to make the mh work properly on the client machines. >> 4) you *might* get mh to work with smail 2.5. it is very small and >> easy to configure. Since it's *might*. I would go for other alternatives. I will try to recompile the mh. Could you please tell me how to configure mh to do its own delivery? Thanks for your help. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 13:29:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA05616 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:29:45 -0700 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.bnr.ca [192.58.194.73]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA05606 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:29:38 -0700 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:27:17 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:04:25 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:04:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:04:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1740711/g=bo/i=b/s=xiao/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.044:17.07.95.20.04.25] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: re:How to run... From: "bo (b.) xiao" Message-ID: <"21052 Thu Aug 17 16:04:31 1995"@bnr.ca> To: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Cc: "matthew (m.) kiser" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: re:How to run Xview and olvwm on BSD 2.0 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message "How to run Xview and olvwm on BSD 2.0", tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu writes: > Hi! I am wondering how to run Xview and olvwm on BSD2.0. I have installed > Xview and olvwm on my BSD 2.0, but I don't know how to start them. > I have try to start olvwm in .xinitrc. It give me a 'memory fault' message > then the screen go back to the shell. > Please kindly advice. XView is a set of libraries so you dont run it. It provides an development environment complaint to Sun's open-look. A few Sun tools like cmdtool, clock are included. I have tried starting olvwm/olwm via /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit. The server starts and I was excited for about 15 seconds: it crashes at my first key stroke to a shell window. (I tend to believe this is a mach32 only 'feature'.) Bo From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 13:31:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA05720 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:31:20 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA05703 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:31:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA07203 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:30:01 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Stephen Tsai cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:30:30 GMT." <199508171230.MAA00678@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:30:00 +0100 Message-ID: <7201.808691400@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199508171230.MAA00678@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu>, Stephen Tsai writes: >The MH must have sendmail running on the local machine to work. Am I >right? If the local machine does not running sendmail then the MH >will not work properly? As supplied, yes. I dunno where you would change this in the configuration of MH. >But it seems not able to send the none-local e-mail to the server machine. I'm not sure what the problem is (unless a sendmail daemon was running before you made the change, and hence the change hasn't been propogated to the running copy). All I know is that using that option locally here worked fine until I got annoyed enough with the delays in e-mail delivery caused by going through my local ISP's e-mail system to stop using it. >So I jsut have to set both DH and DR as > DHserver.keck.lmu.edu > DRserver.keck.lmu.edu >Tell me if I do this wrong. Should work fine. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 13:44:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA06563 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:44:11 -0700 Received: from comp1.aiiad.com (aiiad.com [204.235.85.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA06556 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:43:57 -0700 From: BRUCE@AIIAD.COM Received: from [0.0.0.0] by comp1.aiiad.com id aa001124 Thu, 17 Aug 95 16:45:46 Eastern Daylight Time--100 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 16:39:41 PDT Subject: thanks but responses keep coming To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Chameleon ENGP1, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailedby: NT SMTP/LISTSERVER v2.10 (ntmail@net-shopper.co.uk) Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk thanks for all your responses but could it be that my question is stuck in some queue? Each day more people see it and answer!! I've got plenty of questions but I dont want to wear anybody out. Thanks very much, Bruce Goldberg ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- E-mail: BRUCE@aiiad.com mail: Bruce Goldberg fax: 212-227-0127 American International Group phone: 212-770-9315 Internal Audit Division 99 John Street - 5th floor New York, NY 10038 Date: 08/17/95 Time: 16:39:41 ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 13:50:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA06794 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:50:15 -0700 Received: from rtfm.ocala.com (rtfm.ocala.com [204.117.196.57]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA06779 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:50:10 -0700 Received: (from seamus@localhost) by rtfm.ocala.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA09115; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:56:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:56:12 -0400 (EDT) From: John Seamus To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installing on a laptop Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I want to install freebsd on a compaq contura aero laptop, but have been having awful luck.. I got release 2.1.0-950726-SNAP from ftp.cdrom.com, and made a copy of the root and boot disks.. my problem is occuring after bootup.. due to the odd configuration of the floppy drive on the compaq, after booting, FreeBSD refuses to see the floppy drive... I set everything up, and when it goes to read the root disk, it says "Error, no floppy devices found" or something similar to that error.. I am wondering if I could possibly put the root disk on my dos partition that I'm installing from, or if there is some way installing freebsd can be done on this machine... please respond ASAP! Pat From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 13:54:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA07049 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:54:57 -0700 Received: from relay.philips.nl (relay.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA07038 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 13:54:46 -0700 Received: from knox.pcec.philips.com ([130.140.96.243]) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) with SMTP id WAA02730; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:52:56 +0200 Received: from eis16.philips.com by knox.pcec.philips.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07955; Thu, 17 Aug 95 16:53:42 EDT Received: by eis16.philips.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24843; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:53:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:53:42 -0400 From: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT ) Message-Id: <9508172053.AA24843@eis16.philips.com> To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu Cc: jiho@sierra.net, freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (message from Chuck Robey on Thu, 17 Aug 1995 12:37:50 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: gnumalloc [Why I'm using Freebsd] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -Chuck> Personally, I think there's very little chance of that -Chuck> happening. If this means that we'll never be as large a group -Chuck> as Windoze users, I can live with that, I've never been all -Chuck> that keen on running with the herd. Have you? As one following the discussion, I had to comment here... (Don't we all? ;-) Ever since Sun decided to go with the sysv approach to UNIX rather than BSD, I've been looking for alternatives. In the Workstation world (HPs, Suns, esv...) SunOS was the best form of UNIX available for the longest time. When the switch to Solaris started, few people relished the idea of going to a broken OS. (For the record, Solaris 2.4 is much better than 2.0, but that's besides the point) The only reason I went to buy a PC was the fact that I couldn't get a decent, supported version of BSD to for the Sun. (NetBSD isn't supported enough for the hardware, sorry.) The nice thing about when Sun was SunOS was the large user base. This was very helpful. Not the 'dumb user' concept seen so much with the PC world, but of sys admins talking to each others. Sun users could even help those using esv's and other UNIX hardware devices. That is a good thing. And yes, it is running with the herd. From a business perspective, it's the right way to do things. (Mac's are better than PC's, but won't change the market since PC's are used by a lot of business'. Since the herd uses PC's, Business' will use them too.) (However, a large business actually spends more money if they put DOS on every ones desk that a UNIX computer due to sys admin... DOS, windows, including Win95 just are not sys admin friendly.) I would like to see a large use base, especially business user base, for freebsd. This will keep BSD alive. Since Sun's decision to switch, that may not happen. If FreeBSD get's stable, (like 4.1.3 SunOS) you may have that market. (Provided more business find sco/bsdi products to use on FreeBSD) Also, a commercial support group, (Like Cygnus to GNU) wouldn't hurt. ->> And since this all started with the memory usage of X and its ->> clients: How many sites do you know of, where the network ->> transparency of X is actually utilized as originally designed? ->> What happened to the X terminal market? The location where I work is planning to go to disk-less workstations... Basically a full X-terminal on each desk. (Or run freebsd on their pc's??? ;-) X terminal market is just starting in the US, but it's big elsewhere (Well, Japan I believe. Great for sysadmins. -- Virtually, Edward Wolpert ------------------------------- wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com | Valdi: "He's bleeding!" wolpert@utk.edu | Pozzo: "That's a good sign" -S.B. =============================== Nothingness is the worm in the | 'Give me a shell, and I'll heart of being. - Sartre | give you the world.' (tm) ------------------------------- Fnord. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 14:04:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA07456 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:04:35 -0700 Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA07441 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:04:30 -0700 Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA29376; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:58:52 -0500 Message-Id: <9508172058.AA29376@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:58:52 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: lix@cs.pdx.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: floppy disk format Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, I would like to know how could I convert a dos formated floppy >on FreeBSD system so that FreeBSD can read it. If someone can give me >a hint how to do this, I would appreciate very much. mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt # Mounts A: DOS formatted floppy as /mnt mount -t msdos -o ro /dev/fd0 /mnt # Same but as readonly. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.interWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 14:07:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA07725 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:07:11 -0700 Received: from tale.frihet.com (ns.frihet.com [165.227.57.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA07695 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:06:59 -0700 Received: from localhost.frihet.com (tweten@localhost.frihet.com [127.0.0.1]) by tale.frihet.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA14248; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:06:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199508172106.OAA14248@tale.frihet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: tale.frihet.com: Host localhost.frihet.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.5.3 12/28/94 Reply-To: "David E. Tweten" To: "Hugh S. Ellis" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPP and serial line configuration FAQs for 1.1.5.1 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:06:14 -0700 From: "David E. Tweten" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hugh S. Ellis writes: > I ran MAKEDEV on cua00 and cua01 > and com1 and com2 and tty00 and tty01 with no luck. > > The error message that I am getting says /dev/cua02: device not configured > So how do I configure them? My guess is that you are the victim of the fact that MS-DOS never quite discovered zero. The fact that the initial com port is COM1 under DOS turns out being inconvenient in a zero-based world like Unix. Your error message says "/dev/cua02". That's the equivalent of MS-DOS's COM3. Do you have three com ports? -- David E. Tweten | PGP Key fingerprint = | tweten@frihet.com 12141 Atrium Drive | E9 59 E7 5C 6B 88 B8 90 | tweten@and.com Saratoga, CA 95070-3162 | 65 30 2A A4 A0 BC 49 AE | (408) 446-4131 The only flags worth saluting are those you are permitted to burn. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 14:09:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA07905 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:09:24 -0700 Received: from alpha.enc.edu (alpha.enc.edu [199.93.252.250]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA07886 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:09:16 -0700 Received: by alpha.enc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03 rev 11/30/94) id AA16206; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:07:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Charles N. Owens" To: questions list FreeBSD Subject: HELP!: adding second disk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've tried to figure this out, but am having trouble. I'm trying to add a second drive to my system. It's a Seagate ST15230W SCSI-2 WIDE 4 GIG drive. The controller and FBSD recognize it's existence fine, but I'm having trouble attacking it with fdisk and disklabel. Is the correct procedure for me to: 1. fdisk -u Make one partition, type 165, using whole drive. 2. Add entry to /etc/disktab defining my drive. 3. do a disklabel -r -w /dev/sd1 st15320w ? I tried the fdisk step, and it seems to be fixated on what the BIOS thinks. Does it mean the SCSI controller BIOS or the system BIOS? I don't think that the system BIOS should know a thing about either of my SCSI drives. Fdisk kept telling my that the #of tracks is 90, when I know it's 114, and when I try to tell it differently, it doesn't budge. Here is my new /etc/disktab entry: st15230w|Seagate ST15230W 4 Gig SCSI-2 WIDE:\ :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#19:ns#114:nc#3992:\ :pa#192774:oa#0:ta=swap:\ :pb#197106:ob#192774:bb#4096:fa#512:tb=4.2BSD:\ :pc#8646672:oc#0:\ :pd#8256792:od#389880:bd#4096:fd#512:td=4.2BSD:\ Should this be OK? Of course, when I tried to run disklabel, I get the following: ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device, but I wouldn't expect it to work in light of the trouble I'm having with fdisk. Could someone shed some light on this situation? thanks, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 14:17:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA08513 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:17:19 -0700 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA08505 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:17:15 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/PHILMAIL-1.11) with UUCP id OAA12102; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:11:14 -0700 Received: from merde.dis.org by merde.dis.org (8.6.11/MERDE-940323) id OAA25721; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:09:15 -0700 Message-Id: <199508172109.OAA25721@merde.dis.org> To: Gary Palmer cc: Stephen Tsai , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! X-Phone: (510) 849-2230 X-Snail-address: 2560 Bancroft way #51;Berkeley CA 94704-1700 In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:30:00 +0100. <7201.808691400@palmer.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25714.808693753.1@merde.dis.org> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:09:14 -0700 From: Pete Shipley Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >In message <199508171230.MAA00678@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu>, Stephen Tsai writes: >>The MH must have sendmail running on the local machine to work. Am I >>right? If the local machine does not running sendmail then the MH >>will not work properly? > >As supplied, yes. I dunno where you would change this in the >configuration of MH. yes you can edit the file mtstailor in MH's lib directory. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 14:32:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA09416 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:32:15 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA09405 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:32:11 -0700 Received: by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.15) via UUCP id AA24550 ; Thu, 17 Aug 95 17:31:52 -0400 Received: (from jan@localhost) by bagend.atl.ga.us (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA29542; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:05:29 -0400 From: Jan Isley Message-Id: <199508172105.RAA29542@bagend.atl.ga.us> Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! To: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu (Stephen Tsai) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508171325.NAA00371@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> from "Stephen Tsai" at Aug 17, 95 01:25:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1407 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Tsai wrote: > >> 3) recompile mh > >> I understand that you do not want to recompile mh, but it is very > >> easy to do with the ports files. You can configure mh to do its > >> own delivery, but you must recompile it to do so. > > I can recompile mh if it is really necessary and there is no other simple > way to make the mh work properly on the client machines. There may be other ways, but I am not aware of any. > >> 4) you *might* get mh to work with smail 2.5. it is very small and > >> easy to configure. > Since it's *might*. I would go for other alternatives. I unsuccessfully tried to get mh to work with smail 2.5 a long time ago but it was a limitation of the System V R2 that I was using, not mh and maybe not smail 2.5 > I will try to recompile the mh. Could you please tell me how to configure > mh to do its own delivery? Thanks for your help. I have not done this, so I cannot give more specifics than this. In /usr/ports/mail/mh/work/mh-6.8.3/conf the file mh-gen.8 is a man page that discusses configuration options. The ports package creates a "FreeBSD" config file in this directory, the default is "MH". You want to look at the section in mh-gen that talks about "stand-alone" setup. In the compile config file you will need to set mts to mhmts. There are other options set in the "FreeBSD" config file that probably should not be set for you, like BIND. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 14:37:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA09858 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:37:53 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA09850 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:37:49 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (bsd1.keck.lmu.edu [157.242.76.5]) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA28211; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:43:44 GMT Received: (from tsai@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA00577; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:41:34 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:41:34 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171441.OAA00577@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, shipley@merde.dis.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Cc: questions@freebsd.org, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ] >>The MH must have sendmail running on the local machine to work. Am I ] >>right? If the local machine does not running sendmail then the MH ] >>will not work properly? ] > ] >As supplied, yes. I dunno where you would change this in the ] >configuration of MH. >> yes you can >> >> edit the file mtstailor in MH's lib directory. The original mtstailor is mmdfldir: /var/mail mmdflfil: hostable: /usr/local/lib/mh/hosts servers: localhost \01localnet I have chnaged it to mmdfldir: /var/mail mmdflfil: hostable: /usr/local/lib/mh/hosts servers: server.keck.lmu.edu \01localnet And it seems to work. Thanks. I will try to mail you another mail and please tell me if you receive it or not. Also, please reply to that message so I can know if the return address is correct. Thanks again. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 ~ ~ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 14:52:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA11106 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:52:22 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA11099 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:52:20 -0700 Received: by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.15) via UUCP id AA25522 ; Thu, 17 Aug 95 17:50:40 -0400 Received: (from jan@localhost) by bagend.atl.ga.us (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA00147; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:50:00 -0400 From: Jan Isley Message-Id: <199508172150.RAA00147@bagend.atl.ga.us> Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! To: shipley@merde.dis.org (Pete Shipley) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Cc: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508172109.OAA25721@merde.dis.org> from "Pete Shipley" at Aug 17, 95 02:09:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 151 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Pete Shipley wrote: > edit the file mtstailor in MH's lib directory. Really? I thought you had to compile in stand-alone support for that to work. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 15:06:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA12178 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:06:36 -0700 Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA12171 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:06:33 -0700 Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA18715; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:09:42 -0600 From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199508172209.QAA18715@hemi.com> Subject: Re: (configuring /etc/ttys) To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:09:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19127.808645826@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Aug 17, 95 00:50:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 590 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan wrote: > You could say "man ttys" and get much of this information, but the > following line will do it: > > ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on secure Hello, I would recommend "insecure" for dial-in modem lines, especially if the modem doesn't have internal security features (e.g. some modems can authenticate you and/or provide dialback security.) -Ade -------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - www: -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 15:09:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA12530 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:09:49 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA12516 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:09:46 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (bsd1.keck.lmu.edu [157.242.76.5]) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA28295; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:15:46 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA00686; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:13:36 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:13:36 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171513.PAA00686@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, shipley@merde.dis.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Cc: questions@freebsd.org, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk After modify mtstailor, I am able to send mail from MH. But the my address changed from tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu to tsai@bsd1.keckl.lmu.edu My address become the host machine that I am on. I am wondering if there is anything that I can do to let the address show as tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Thanks. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 15:18:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA13197 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:18:56 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA13186 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:18:53 -0700 Received: from bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (bsd1.keck.lmu.edu [157.242.76.5]) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA28310; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:24:55 GMT Received: (from root@localhost) by bsd1.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA00709; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:22:44 GMT Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:22:44 GMT From: Stephen Tsai Message-Id: <199508171522.PAA00709@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> To: jan@bagend.atl.ga.us, shipley@merde.dis.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! Cc: gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Pete Shipley wrote: > edit the file mtstailor in MH's lib directory. Jan worte : >> Really? I thought you had to compile in stand-alone support for >> that to work. I am able to send mail from xmh after modifying 'mtstailor'. If I send mail form plane 'mail', my address shows as 'tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu'. But if I using xmh, my address will become 'tsai@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu'. My address will change depending on what computer that I am on. Do you know any way to stop this from happening? Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/17/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 15:52:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA15976 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:52:57 -0700 Received: from emory.mathcs.emory.edu (emory.mathcs.emory.edu [128.140.2.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA15962 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 15:52:55 -0700 Received: by emory.mathcs.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_mathcs.4.0.15) via UUCP id AA28376 ; Thu, 17 Aug 95 18:51:14 -0400 Received: (from jan@localhost) by bagend.atl.ga.us (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA00660; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:42:59 -0400 From: Jan Isley Message-Id: <199508172242.SAA00660@bagend.atl.ga.us> Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! To: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu (Stephen Tsai) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: shipley@merde.dis.org, gary@palmer.demon.co.uk, questions@freebsd.org, tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu In-Reply-To: <199508171522.PAA00709@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu> from "Stephen Tsai" at Aug 17, 95 03:22:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 705 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Tsai wrote: > Pete Shipley wrote: > > edit the file mtstailor in MH's lib directory. > > Jan worte : > >> Really? I thought you had to compile in stand-alone support for > >> that to work. > > I am able to send mail from xmh after modifying 'mtstailor'. If I > send mail form plane 'mail', my address shows as 'tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu'. > But if I using xmh, my address will become 'tsai@bsd1.keck.lmu.edu'. > My address will change depending on what computer that I am on. > Do you know any way to stop this from happening? well, that works, interesting! man mh-tailor will tell you about other things you can do with mtstailor, some of which allow you to diddle with who mh thinks it is. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 16:55:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA18771 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:55:14 -0700 Received: from io.org (io.org [142.77.70.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA18759 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 16:55:09 -0700 Received: from trepan.io.org (apollo@trepan.io.org [198.133.36.8]) by io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA12438; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:54:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:54:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Herdman To: "Charles N. Owens" cc: questions list FreeBSD Subject: Re: HELP!: adding second disk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Charles N. Owens wrote: > Hello, > I've tried to figure this out, but am having trouble. I'm trying to add > a second drive to my system. It's a Seagate ST15230W SCSI-2 WIDE 4 GIG > drive. The controller and FBSD recognize it's existence fine, but I'm > having trouble attacking it with fdisk and disklabel. > > Is the correct procedure for me to: > 1. fdisk -u > Make one partition, type 165, using whole drive. > 2. Add entry to /etc/disktab defining my drive. > 3. do a disklabel -r -w /dev/sd1 st15320w > ? > > I tried the fdisk step, and it seems to be fixated on what the BIOS > thinks. Does it mean the SCSI controller BIOS or the system BIOS? I > don't think that the system BIOS should know a thing about either of my > SCSI drives. Fdisk kept telling my that the #of tracks is 90, when I know > it's 114, and when I try to tell it differently, it doesn't budge. > > Here is my new /etc/disktab entry: > > st15230w|Seagate ST15230W 4 Gig SCSI-2 WIDE:\ > :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#19:ns#114:nc#3992:\ > :pa#192774:oa#0:ta=swap:\ > :pb#197106:ob#192774:bb#4096:fa#512:tb=4.2BSD:\ > :pc#8646672:oc#0:\ > :pd#8256792:od#389880:bd#4096:fd#512:td=4.2BSD:\ > > Should this be OK? Of course, when I tried to run disklabel, I get the > following: ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device, > but I wouldn't expect it to work in light of the trouble I'm having with > fdisk. > > Could someone shed some light on this situation? I get this error as well from my WORM drive (it has a controller that emulates a normal disk). This is the error i get with both disklabel and fdisk disklabel: ioctl DIOCWDINFO: Operation not supported by device as the above author stated... HELP! Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 17:56:38 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA20950 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:56:38 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (pain.csrv.uidaho.edu [129.101.114.109]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA20944 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:56:36 -0700 Received: from pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pain.csrv.uidaho.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA25305; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:56:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199508180056.RAA25305@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu> To: Stephen Tsai cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MH 6.8.3 package problem! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 1995 11:13:34 GMT." X-Web: <"http://www.cs.uidaho.edu:8000/"> X-OS: 4.4BSD derivatives Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 17:56:26 -0700 From: Faried Nawaz Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Tsai wrote... Hi! I installed the MH 6.8.3 to my FreeBSD 2.0, but it seems not able to send any mail out. I am wondering what is the problem. Please kindly advice. Thanks. have you tried playing with /usr/local/lib/mh/mtstailor? try reading the man page on mh-tailor. it may help; but i don't know... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 18:32:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA22348 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:32:00 -0700 Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp4.netcom.com [163.179.3.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA22338 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:31:58 -0700 From: dbabler@orionsys.com Received: from orionsys.com by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id SAA01586; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:15:00 -0700 Received: by orionsys.com (UUPM-1.51) id D5033Ou Thu, Aug 17, 1995 18:22:11 PDT Message-Id: <9508171822.D5033Ou@orionsys.com> X-Mailer: UUPlus Mail 1.51 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD Organization: The Orion BBS Date: Thu, 17 Aug 95 18:22:10 PST Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have been unsuccessfully trying to install FreeBSD 2.0.5 to an older Dell computer from the Walnut Creek CD-ROM for several days now. The computer is an older 386DX20 with 6MB of RAM, an Eagle NE2000Plus NIC, a very old Denon CD-ROM drive and 2 ESDI 150MB hard drives controlled by a Western Digital WD1007A-WA2 controller. The PC runs DOS 6.2 and no network is installed when the installation is attempted. I've opted to install from a DOS partition on the second drive and have successfully Xcopied all the relevant binaries there. The basic problem comes from being totally unable to successfully install the file system to the BSD partition/slice. The 1st drive has a native geometry of 968 cyl, 9 heads and 34 sectors per track. I've low-level formatted it to this setup several times. It also supports translated geomtries of 968/16/17 and 293/16/63. After low-level formatting, I use DOS FDISK to make the initial partition(s). I've tried, with about equal non-success: 1. one large DOS primary partition, split later with FIPS. 2. one 60MB DOS primary partition, remainder undefined 3. one 60MB DOS primary partition, remainder DOS extended partition with no logical drives defined. After that stage, I then use DOS Format to format the active partition and restore DOS files (and the O/S) to it so I can run the CD-ROM and then run INSTALL.BAT. All of my original installation attempts used the native 968/9/34 geometry. When BSD boots, as part of the INSTALL.BAT program, it finds the controller and identifies it as a WD1007 and finds both drives. The first drive is probed as being 968/9/35 (not 968/9/34) but when I enter the partition editor in BSD, the first drive is specified as 977/9/34. The debug log (Alt+F2) also says: wd0: invalid extended partition table: no magic wd1: invalid extended partition table: no magic If I leave the geometry set as it comes up, when I commit the install, it encounters a hard write error attempting to write the partition or boot manager and halts. If I manually set the geometry to 968/9/34 (or 967/9/343), and create a FreeBSD partition (either all of the rest of the disk, which is 10,000 blocks bigger than the physical drive since changing the geometry did NOT change what it thinks is the number of mappable blocks, or only the number of actual blocks remaining) the very best I've been able to make it do is fail when doing the bad block scan. What it finds during the scan is that blocks 28, 63, 78, 133... are all "bad" and eventually BAD144 faults. Basically, it is rejecting every 35th block and calling it bad. A real bad-sector scan of the entire drive gives about 5-6 bad blocks. I've gotten it to successfully install the boot selection manager, but that's it. The release notes also indicate that it is supposed to be possible to install into a DOS extended partition, but this does not seem possible as you cannot label anything inside anything other than a FreeBSD slice. I am pretty much at wits' end here with things to try, since I cannot create the filesystem. Thanks in advance. -Dave Babler From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 18:59:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA23211 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:59:07 -0700 Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA23205 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:59:05 -0700 Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA044751136; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:58:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199508180158.AA044751136@hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA220091134; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:58:54 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: g++ 2.7 and STL To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:58:53 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wonder which version of FreeBSD will have g++ 2.7.0 bundled as default ? I need at least 2.7.0 to try porting STL (Standard Template Library). Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 19:22:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA23820 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:22:19 -0700 Received: from ix8.ix.netcom.com (ix8.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.8]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA23814 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:22:17 -0700 Received: from by ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA25175; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:19:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:19:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199508180219.TAA25175@ix8.ix.netcom.com> From: fadorno@ix.netcom.com (Fred Adorno ) Subject: Modem Setup To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I get the software to recognize that I have a USR 14.4 on com2? At boot it does not recognize it at sio1. I also have a fax/voice mail board at the same port. Each is at a different address. Will this still cause a conflict? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 19:30:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA24229 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:30:06 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA24221 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:30:03 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA16798; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:29:32 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id WAA10352; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:29:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:29:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: g++ 2.7 and STL In-Reply-To: <199508180158.AA044751136@hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, M C Wong wrote: > Hi, > I wonder which version of FreeBSD will have g++ 2.7.0 bundled as > default ? I need at least 2.7.0 to try porting STL (Standard Template > Library). Thanks in advance. > You really don't want 2.7 included until it has at least some proven track record, but I don't think that's going to stop you, either. Someone (I don't remember who) posted some files to allow you to build 2.7.0 under freebsd, altho I don't think it's all that hard without the files. Those files are on a machine that's just started building world, so if someone else doesn't chime in by tomorrow, I'll be glad to send them to you, if you'd like. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 19:32:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA24344 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:32:09 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA24338 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 19:32:06 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA16871; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:31:36 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id WAA10374; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:32:03 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:32:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Modem Setup In-Reply-To: <199508180219.TAA25175@ix8.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Fred Adorno wrote: > How do I get the software to recognize that I have a USR 14.4 on com2? > At boot it does not recognize it at sio1. I also have a fax/voice mail > board at the same port. Each is at a different address. Will this > still cause a conflict? > You say 'the same port', does this mean the same irq and memory address? You can't share irq's here, you know, not with the ordinary serial card. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 20:12:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA26031 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:12:58 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA26024 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:12:48 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA03447; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:15:58 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508180345.NAA03447@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Boot Manager? To: DBXL43B@prodigy.com (MR MICHAEL K MARR) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:15:58 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <013.09999470.DBXL43B@prodigy.com> from "MR MICHAEL K MARR" at Aug 17, 95 11:31:23 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 562 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk MR MICHAEL K MARR stands accused of saying: > > > Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 come with some sort of Boot Manager? I want Yes. This should be in the promo. lit. > Michael K. Marr -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 20:40:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA27088 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:40:24 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA27055 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:39:52 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA03563; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:38:13 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508180408.NAA03563@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Problems installing FreeBSD To: dbabler@orionsys.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:38:12 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9508171822.D5033Ou@orionsys.com> from "dbabler@orionsys.com" at Aug 17, 95 06:22:10 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1095 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk dbabler@orionsys.com stands accused of saying: > I have been unsuccessfully trying to install FreeBSD 2.0.5 to an older Dell > computer from the Walnut Creek CD-ROM for several days now. The computer is > an older 386DX20 with 6MB of RAM, an Eagle NE2000Plus NIC, a very old Denon > CD-ROM drive and 2 ESDI 150MB hard drives controlled by a Western Digital > WD1007A-WA2 controller. The PC runs DOS 6.2 and no network is installed when ^^^^^^^^^^^ This is your 'problem' - there was a discussion recently on hackers- about this, check the mailing list archives for more details. Also, I noticed a file in /pub/FreeBSD/incoming on freebsd.cdrom.com referring to the WD1007 - this may be helpful. > -Dave Babler -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 20:45:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA27414 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:45:53 -0700 Received: from primus.paranoia.com (primus.paranoia.com [204.145.225.20]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA27406 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:45:49 -0700 Received: from bearnet.paranoia.com (dal08-06.ppp.iadfw.net [204.178.75.6]) by primus.paranoia.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA32319 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:42:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:42:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199508180342.WAA32319@primus.paranoia.com> X-Sender: billw@primus.paranoia.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: BearHeart/Bill Weinman Subject: Setting up TCP/IP with an NE2000 clone Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've just set up FreeBSD for the first time, so I'm a bit overwhelmed with stuff in the first place . . . Anyway, I've got another PC running Windows that I've been using for a long time to access the net. I got FreeBSD running without much hassle, and I'm trying to get the two of them to talk to each other. I'd at like to get them to PING each other for a start and, well, it's not working. Yet. I've got my PC net card setup as 192.168.226.2 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and according to the little lights, when I ping out it's going to the network. I've got the FBSD box's net card setup as 192.168.226.1 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and when I say, ping 192.168.226.2 I get "No route to host." What gives? == BearHeart (tm) == --- * The great ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't. * BearHeart@bearnet.com http://www.paranoia.com/~billw/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 21:00:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA27730 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:00:33 -0700 Received: from fullfeed.msn.fullfeed.com (fullfeed.msn.fullfeed.com [199.184.182.42]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA27724 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:00:26 -0700 Received: from [199.184.183.2] by fullfeed.msn.fullfeed.com (8.6.9/FF-1.1) id XAA05877; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:00:16 -0500 X-Sender: craigh@pop.msn.fullfeed.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:00:20 -0500 To: maher@azstarnet.com (maher katbah), questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: craigh@msn.fullfeed.com (Craig A. Heilman) Subject: Re: Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 23:37 08/16/95, maher katbah wrote: [...] >where can I get some help to become an ISP ? There are two mailing lists for ISP/IAPs. IAP (Small Internet Access Providers) send eamil to listserv@vma.cc.nd.edu with subscribe iap in the body of the message inet-access send eamil to inet-access-request@earth.com with subscribe in the body of the message Cheers, Craig -------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Craig A. Heilman Bugaboo Software * * bugsoft@msn.fullfeed.com Software Engineering & Consulting * * (608) 274-2003 http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/craigh/ * -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 21:07:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA28024 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:07:35 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA27937 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:06:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA08686 ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 05:04:49 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: BearHeart/Bill Weinman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up TCP/IP with an NE2000 clone In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:42:17 CDT." <199508180342.WAA32319@primus.paranoia.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 05:04:45 +0100 Message-ID: <8682.808718685@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message <199508180342.WAA32319@primus.paranoia.com>, BearHeart/Bill Weinman writes: > I've got the FBSD box's net card setup as 192.168.226.1 with a >subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and when I say, > ping 192.168.226.2 > I get "No route to host." Is the network interface up? Try doing: ifconfig ed0 up (replace ed0 with whatever network i/f you are using) If that doesn't work, it'd be helpful to see the output of the commands `netstat -r' and `ifconfig -a'. Yours Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 21:37:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA28809 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:37:59 -0700 Received: from jax.jaxnet.com (jax.jaxnet.com [204.183.221.4]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA28803 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:37:57 -0700 Received: from ts2-012.jaxnet.com (ts2-012.jaxnet.com [204.183.221.207]) by jax.jaxnet.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA09798 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:44:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199508180444.AAA09798@jax.jaxnet.com> X-Sender: bwern@jax.jaxnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:40:11 -0400 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: bwern@jax.jaxnet.com (Ben Wern) Subject: Booteasy can't find partition? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm having a bit of trouble with my installation of 2.0.5. The Install seems to have gone ok, but it won't boot correctly. The first partition (25M) is DOS, and was used for the install. The second is 900M, and is FreeBSD. The third is swap space, about 250M. When the boot manager comes up, and I select the second partition, it tells me that the partition is out of reach from the bios, and if I attempt to boot anyways, it tells me Error: C:0 H:0 S:0. Any thoughts? FDISK and FreeBSD install both saw the disk sizes just fine. Thanks, Ben Wern bwern@jaxnet.com | Finger or mail for latest bwern@pathtech.com| PGP key revocation and bwern@unf.ed u | latest key update. "I used to get disgusted, but now I just get amused" From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 22:22:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA00717 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:22:39 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA00711 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 22:22:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id BAA26149 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 01:24:43 -0400 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.org (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA29203 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:29:13 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA08665 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:26:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:26:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199508142326.QAA08665@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Subject: download From: shamun@aol.com (WWW Form) To: www@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The machine this came from was: www-b3.proxy.aol.com gentlemen: as i am new to the internet-- how the @#$% do i download freebsd & XFree86 off of AOL(please help) sincerely, shamun mahmud From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 23:06:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA02724 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:06:22 -0700 Received: from alpha7.dec.ncku.edu.tw (alpha7.dec.ncku.edu.tw [140.116.3.67]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA02712 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:06:11 -0700 From: e6482208@alpha7.dec.ncku.edu.tw Received: by alpha7.dec.ncku.edu.tw; id AA16718; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:05:11 +0800 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:05:11 +0800 Message-Id: <9508180605.AA16718@alpha7.dec.ncku.edu.tw> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk you tell me more about how you're building this kernel? I need more details please. Thank you! Jordan > when I make kernel ,it occurs "chflags :/kernel:No such file or directory > *** Error code 1" > dear jkh: > may u give me some ideal about this ? > thank u > 1 I get /src/ssys.?? 2 cd / cat ssys.?? |gunzip | tar xvf - 3 edit my kernel config file ------- _______________________ machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident Superwork maxusers 16 options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVMSG,SYSVSEM,SYSVSHM options "MAXCONS=2" controller isa0 controller pci0 options PROBE_VERBOSE controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq 11 drq 6 vector ahaintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device de0 device ed0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 12 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 64 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's -------------------------------------------this is my kernel config file 4 config superwork (kernel config file) 5 cd /sys/compile/superwork 6 make depend all install then ..................some problem ........ ---------------------------- my hardward cpu p-100 aha-1542cf scis harddisk cdrom 32m ram ........ network ne2000 ---------------------------------------------------------- thank u jkh Chem_Dowd_Young_JITIN From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Aug 17 23:49:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA04992 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:49:43 -0700 Received: from asiaonline.net (mail.asiaonline.net [202.85.0.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA04986 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:49:37 -0700 Received: by asiaonline.net (AsiaOnLine-Gateway) id AA02350; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:50:46 HKT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:50:45 +0800 (HKT) From: Peter Danford To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Install: error on boot Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi -- I get the error message (endless loop) when booting from floppy or the 2.0.5 CD while trying to install: matcd0: getstat: After reading status byte, bus didn't go idle ff f 230 It seems to boot fine until it gets to that point. My CD is a SCSI Pioneer DR-U124X, system is Pentium-100, 16meg. Any help appreciated! Peter From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 00:15:53 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA05491 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:15:53 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA05485 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:15:47 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA20401 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org); Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:18:22 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:19:41 +0300 To: Julian Elischer From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk After fdisk and some partition definitions I am getting using "disklabel -r sd1": # /dev/rsd1c: type: SCSI disk: sd1s1 label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 80 sectors/unit: 165856 rpm: 0 interleave: 0 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 145856 20000 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 9*- 80*) b: 20000 0 swap # (Cyl. 0 - 9*) c: 165856 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 80*) I have some questions (I am trying to understand this all): 1. If I exit, disklabel is complaining about rpm and interleave. Can I change them to whatever I like (that is: are they actually used?)? 2. Why 8 partitions? There is only 3 (I have 8 on sd0) 3. If I change the order to # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 145856 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 9*- 80*) b: 20000 145856 swap # (Cyl. 0 - 9*) c: 165856 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 80*) Mount does not accpet it, "/dev/sd1a on /mnt: Incorrect super block.". Why? Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 00:40:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA06282 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:40:22 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA06274 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:40:18 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA04143; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:42:25 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508180812.RAA04143@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:42:24 +0930 (CST) Cc: julian@ref.tfs.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Seppo Kallio" at Aug 18, 95 10:19:41 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1266 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Seppo Kallio stands accused of saying: > After fdisk and some partition definitions I am getting using > 1. If I exit, disklabel is complaining about rpm and interleave. Can I > change them to whatever I like (that is: are they actually used?)? Not in any significant matter. Set them to something sensible (5000 and 1 would be fine) > 2. Why 8 partitions? There is only 3 (I have 8 on sd0) No idea; shouldn't matter. > 3. If I change the order to > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 145856 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 9*- 80*) > b: 20000 145856 swap # (Cyl. 0 - 9*) > c: 165856 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 80*) > > Mount does not accpet it, "/dev/sd1a on /mnt: Incorrect super block.". Why? Because you haven't newfs'd the filesystem yet. > Seppo -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 00:40:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA06338 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:40:57 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA06330 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:40:49 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA04125; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:38:49 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508180808.RAA04125@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Install: error on boot To: peterd@asiaonline.net (Peter Danford) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:38:48 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Danford" at Aug 18, 95 02:50:45 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 954 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Peter Danford stands accused of saying: > I get the error message (endless loop) when booting from floppy > or the 2.0.5 CD while trying to install: > > matcd0: getstat: After reading status byte, bus didn't go idle ff f 230 > > It seems to boot fine until it gets to that point. My CD is a SCSI > Pioneer DR-U124X, system is Pentium-100, 16meg. at the boot: prompt, type '-c'.. When the config> prompt appears, type 'disable matcd0' and then 'quit'. You'll need to do this every time you boot from the floppy, and the first time you boot from the harddisk. > Peter -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 00:53:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id AAA06865 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:53:13 -0700 Received: from btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.8.29]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA06859 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 00:52:53 -0700 Received: from btp1x5 (btp1x5.phy.uni-bayreuth.de) by btr0x1.hrz.uni-bayreuth.de (4.1/btr0x1 (UBTGW/btr0x1-2.4.7)) id AA09306; Fri, 18 Aug 95 09:50:01 +0200 Received: by btp1x5; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1216PM) id AA02525; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:53:57 +0100 From: griessl Message-Id: <9508180853.AA02525@btp1x5> Subject: Re: Booteasy can't find partition? To: bwern@jax.jaxnet.com (Ben Wern) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:53:57 +0100 (WET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199508180444.AAA09798@jax.jaxnet.com> from "Ben Wern" at Aug 18, 95 00:40:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 943 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Hello. > > I'm having a bit of trouble with my installation of 2.0.5. The Install > seems to have gone ok, but it won't boot correctly. The first partition > (25M) is DOS, and was used for the install. The second is 900M, and is > FreeBSD. The third is swap space, about 250M. When the boot manager comes > up, and I select the second partition, it tells me that the partition is out > of reach from the bios, and if I attempt to boot anyways, it tells me > Error: C:0 H:0 S:0. > > Any thoughts? FDISK and FreeBSD install both saw the disk sizes just fine. > > Thanks, > > Ben Wern > bwern@jaxnet.com | Finger or mail for latest > bwern@pathtech.com| PGP key revocation and > bwern@unf.ed u | latest key update. > "I used to get disgusted, but now I just get amused" > > Create a little Root-partition (/) with ~30Mb after the Dos-partition and use the big partition as the /usr-partition. Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 03:06:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA13483 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 03:06:44 -0700 Received: from linux.fullcoll.edu (LINUX.FULLCOLL.EDU [192.86.78.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA13474 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 03:06:43 -0700 Received: (from uuful@localhost) by linux.fullcoll.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id DAA18948 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 03:08:06 -0700 Received: by fullcoll (NetXpress 2.50.b1) via UUCP id E17A88; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:45:47 -0800 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: superuser From: eric_berchtold@bbs.fullcoll.edu (Eric Berchtold) Message-ID: <46.53838.1@bbs.fullcoll.edu> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 23:48:00 -0800 Organization: Fullerton College, CA Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk heya Ive been playing around with a copy of FreeBSD V2.0, and I tried logging on as SU. When I was installing it, it never told me what the su password was. Do you know what the default would be? Or, what is the file that I would have to view to see what the password is. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advanced. Eric Eric_Berchtold@fullcoll.edu ========================================================================== Fullerton College claims no responsibility to the opinion expressed above! ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 03:50:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id DAA15498 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 03:50:02 -0700 Received: from cc.jyu.fi (cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA15482 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 03:49:55 -0700 Received: from [130.234.41.39] (zaphod.maccc.jyu.fi) by cc.jyu.fi with SMTP id AA23559 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:18:05 +0300 X-Sender: kallio@pop.jyu.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:19:34 +0300 To: Michael Smith From: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Final? ** Cc: julian@ref.tfs.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for everyone who did help me! I hope we did all learn something. I have now done this about 10 times and now I feel I know something about it. I agree with John Capo that it is trivial after you know how to do it ;-). And I agree that the biggest problem is fdisk. It is not trivial what parameters you have change and how! The disklabel -e -r sd1 is not so hard to use. Nor newfs or mount ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Here final (?) text how to do it. Or how I have done it. In an example here I have 80MB SCSI disk (in a AHA 2940 controller), FreeBSD 2.0.5R. You have to start with fdisk (# -lines written by me): # fdisk -i -u /dev/rsd1 ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) # The cylinder count is nonsence, the disk is 80-81 MB, # so it should be 80 or 81. Head and sector count OK. # On all Adaptec controlled disks heads=64 and sectors=32 # The head count has nothing to do with the disk drive hardware # head count. Same with cylinder and sector count. Do you want to change our idea of what BIOS thinks ? [n] n # Wrong cylinder count does not matter, forward! Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 # This should be: "First sector must be 1" Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) # Sysid you must know it is 165, it is zero when you have empty disk # Where are the docs about this? start 32, size 163840 (80 Meg), flag 80 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 79/ sector 32/ head 63 Do you want to change it? [n] y Supply a decimal value for "sysid" [0] 165 # FreeBSD = 165 Supply a decimal value for "start" [0] 0 # 0 (32 on bootdisk?) Supply a decimal value for "size" [0] 163840 # This comes from 80*32*64 # If bootdisk, you must substract 2048 (=32*64) ????????? Explicitly specifiy beg/end address ? [n] y Supply a decimal value for "beginning cylinder" [0] # (* Supply a decimal value for "beginning head" [0] # (* Supply a decimal value for "beginning sector" [0] 1 # Must be 1 (* Supply a decimal value for "ending cylinder" [0] 79 # Cylinders 0 to 79=80 Supply a decimal value for "ending head" [0] 63 # (* Supply a decimal value for "ending sector" [0] 32 # (* sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 163840 (80 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 79/ sector 32/ head 63 Are we happy with this entry? [n] # (* are same to all disks in Adaptec SCSI controllers. # Ending cylinder is same number as the MB count minus one (here 80-1) The data for partition 1 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n The data for partition 2 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n The data for partition 3 is: Do you want to change it? [n] n Do you want to change the active partition? [n] n We haven't changed the partition table yet. This is your last chance. parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=1923 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) Information from DOS bootblock is: 0: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 0, size 163840 (80 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 0/ sector 1/ head 0; end: cyl 79/ sector 32/ head 63 1: 2: 3: Should we write new partition table? [n] y # if all is correct # you will get following error message, forget it. ioctl DIOCWLABEL: Operation not supported by device # Then start disklabel -e -r sd1 # You will get a screen something like: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # /dev/rsd1c: type: SCSI disk: d80mb label: flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 80 sectors/unit: 165888 rpm: 3600 # If this is zero, put here 3600 interleave: 1 # If this is zero, put here 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # Uh? # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 163840 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 79) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # c: is the whole disk, do not touch it! # I want to add one 10MB swap to this disk, rest space for files. # So I write to extra lines (before the c: -line): a: 143840 20000 4.2BSD 0 0 b: 20000 0 swap # Note: the sum of size fields is a+b=c. The offset is the starting # block number of the partition. When swap starts from 0 and is # 20000 blocks then next partition starts from 20000. # The extra zeroes on a: line mus be there! # There it is. Exit from editor, if errors try to correct. # Next make filesystem: # newfs /dev/rsd1a Warning: calculated sectors per cylinder (4096) disagrees with disk label (2048) Warning: 3136 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 123840 sectors in 31 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors 60.5MB in 2 cyl groups (16 c/g, 32.00MB/g, 7680 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32, 65568, # So some sectors could be defined more .. this terminology is awfull: # Here newfs is speaking about 3136 sectors. In fdisk we define that # the disk has 32 sectors! # These must be blocks of 512 bytes, or what are they???? 3136 blocks # is 1605632 bytes that is 1.6MB. The actual size of my disk is more # than 80MB, it is about 81 MB. # And mount it: # mount /dev/sd1a /mnt # df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 96143 30253 58198 34% / /dev/sd0s1f 1404471 741255 550858 57% /home /dev/sd0s1e 387503 273317 83185 77% /usr procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc kaarna:/home/www 1518207 1310531 86219 94% /opt/www /dev/sd1a 59951 1 55153 0% /mnt # If you get to this point, you are lucky. It is not easy. The # fdisk is the hardest part. Seppo -- +-- Seppo Kallio ----- kallio@jyu.fi ---+ ! Computing Center ! Fax +358-41-603611 Phone +358-41-603606 ! ! University of Jyvaskyla ! http://www.jyu.fi/~kallio ! +-- Finland --+-- 62.14N 25.44E -- + From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 04:16:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA17049 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 04:16:09 -0700 Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA17035 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 04:14:55 -0700 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V4.3-10 #7297) id <01HU7X60M4TC007GE0@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:12:28 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.8/8.6.9) id NAA20088; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:26:05 +0200 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 13:26:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: superuser In-reply-to: <46.53838.1@bbs.fullcoll.edu> from "Eric Berchtold" at Aug 17, 95 11:48:00 pm To: eric_berchtold@bbs.fullcoll.edu (Eric Berchtold) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199508181126.NAA20088@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-length: 1651 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > heya > Ive been playing around with a copy of FreeBSD V2.0, and I tried > logging on as SU. When I was installing it, it never told me what the > su password was. Do you know what the default would be? Or, what is This is an old 'misunderstanding' and I believe it has been changed meanwhile. The old message, saying don't login as root, use 'su' was meant as a hint to the (knowledgable) unix user to avoid logging in as root (for security reasons) and use the 'su' command instead after having logged in as a normal user. This requires this user to belong to the group 'wheel' (/etc/groups) btw. This was leading to questions like yours in the past. After FreeBSD installation the superuser (root) does not have a password allowing to login as root with no password in multiuser mode. You can (and should) change this by using the passwd command. There is no user or superuser called 'su'. > the file that I would have to view to see what the password is. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. The passwords are encrypted. You can change other information of specific users by using the vipw command. Also there is a adduser script (don't know if it came with 2.0 already). I'd recommend to switch to 2.0.5 anyway once you got acquainted with FreeBSD. > > Thanks in advanced. > > Eric > Eric_Berchtold@fullcoll.edu > > ========================================================================== > Fullerton College claims no responsibility to the opinion expressed above! > ========================================================================== > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 05:20:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA19356 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 05:20:48 -0700 Received: from DATAPLEX.NET (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA19350 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 05:20:46 -0700 Received: from [199.183.109.242] by DATAPLEX.NET with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Fri, 18 Aug 1995 06:17:46 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 06:17:50 -0500 To: eric_berchtold@bbs.fullcoll.edu (Eric Berchtold) From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: superuser Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >heya > Ive been playing around with a copy of FreeBSD V2.0, and I tried >logging on as SU. When I was installing it, it never told me what the >su password was. Do you know what the default would be? Or, what is >the file that I would have to view to see what the password is. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. The super user is known as "root". From the console, you may log in using that name. "Out of the box" there is no password set for root. You really should change this at your first opportunity. The "su" command is used to change to superuser after you are already logged in as someone else. The command for changing passwords is "passwd" Or you can edit the password file with "vipw" For more information, read the "man" pages for these commands. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 06:24:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA21822 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 06:24:44 -0700 Received: from croute.com (ishm2.croute.com [199.97.106.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA21814 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 06:24:37 -0700 Received: from bldg1.croute.com by croute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06350; Fri, 18 Aug 95 08:23:53 CDT Received: from COMPUROUTE/SpoolDir by bldg1.croute.com (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 18 Aug 95 8:31:04 +600 Received: from SpoolDir by COMPUROUTE (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 18 Aug 95 8:30:58 +600 From: "Larry Dolinar" Organization: CompuRoute, Inc. To: kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:30:51 +600 CDT Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <18F63BC5CF5@bldg1.croute.com> Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Thus spake kallio@jyu.fi (Seppo Kallio) (Fri, 18 Aug 1995): | | 2. Why 8 partitions? There is only 3 (I have 8 on sd0) | At least in the SunOS sphere (pretty BSD-oriented itself, and FreeBSD has borrowed some features in other areas).. 'a' is typically /, 'b' is swap, 'c' is defined as characteristics for the entire disk (and shouldn't be assigned), 'g' and 'h' are usually /usr (or /usr/local) and /home respectively for a single-disk system. 'a' through 'h' yields 8 partitions. 'd' through 'f' can be used I suppose, but for historical reasons often aren't, though Solaris differs (as do their device names). hth, larry From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 07:10:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA24865 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:10:45 -0700 Received: from primus.paranoia.com (primus.paranoia.com [204.145.225.20]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA24858 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:10:42 -0700 Received: from bearnet.paranoia.com (dal06-07.ppp.iadfw.net [204.178.73.7]) by primus.paranoia.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA05586; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:06:38 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:06:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199508181406.JAA05586@primus.paranoia.com> X-Sender: billw@primus.paranoia.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2b1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Steve Passe , Gary Palmer From: BearHeart/Bill Weinman Subject: Re: Setting up TCP/IP with an NE2000 clone Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I've got the FBSD box's net card setup as 192.168.226.1 with a >>subnet mask of 255.255.255.0 and when I say, >> ping 192.168.226.2 >> I get "No route to host." Here's the output of netstat -rn . . . Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 12 lo0 192.168.225 link#1 UC 0 0 192.168.225.1 0:0:79:81:21:72 UHLW 0 178 lo0 => 192.168.225.1 link#1 UC 0 0 192.168.226.2 0:0:79:81:22:ef UHLW 0 8 lo0 Here's the output of ifconfig -a . . . ed1: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.225.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.226.255 ether 00:00:79:81:21:72 lp0: flags=810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=50 mtu 1500 == BearHeart (tm) == --- * The great ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't. * BearHeart@bearnet.com http://www.paranoia.com/~billw/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 07:44:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA27003 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:44:06 -0700 Received: from scratchy.itsnet.com (scratchy.itsnet.com [204.118.1.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA26975 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:43:58 -0700 Received: from mail.itsnet.com by scratchy.itsnet.com; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:54:15 -0600 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:54:15 -0600 Message-Id: <199508181454.IAA00359@scratchy.itsnet.com> X-Sender: blair@itsnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Subject: HDD error Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Freebsd was idle at the shell prompt, when this happened: wd0: interrupt timeout: wd0: status 50 error 0 Aug 18 08:31:41 strech /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout: Aug 10 08:31:41 strech /kernel: wd0: status 50 error 0 Any ideas on what's going on? Thanks ---------------------------------------------- Blair Schmittel Cyber-Naut, L.C Systems Administrator, Operations Manager blair@itsnet.com When in doubt, blame the phone company From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 07:50:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA28290 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:50:36 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA28280 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 07:50:33 -0700 Received: from cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (cappuccino.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.14]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA27798; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:50:29 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by cappuccino.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id KAA08977; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:50:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Eric Berchtold cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: superuser In-Reply-To: <46.53838.1@bbs.fullcoll.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 1995, Eric Berchtold wrote: > heya > Ive been playing around with a copy of FreeBSD V2.0, and I tried > logging on as SU. When I was installing it, it never told me what the > su password was. Do you know what the default would be? Or, what is > the file that I would have to view to see what the password is. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advanced. su is a program that lets you masquerade as another user. If you enter only su, it default to logging you in as root, which is the preconfigured superuser, so you need the root password here. BTW, there is a man page on the su command, take a look at it. One last point here, if you are new to unix, some folks try to do everything as root. That's a major mistake, because root has the ability to do things like ruin your system with an accidental keystroke, which an ordinary user is prevented from. Additionally, there are security safeguards against root trying certain things. I would strongly recommend against running as root all the time, it's a mistake. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:07:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA01042 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:07:10 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA00995 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:07:00 -0700 Received: (from kleiner@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id LAA28210 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:06:54 -0400 From: David Kleiner Message-Id: <199508181506.LAA28210@panix2.panix.com> Subject: A `hostname` question To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:06:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 375 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Fellow FreeBSD'ers! Here is a quick question: is there any way to distinguish a hostname by an interface, like with a Sun box? That is, to have on lo0 anything but a 'localhost', or something else, in addition to localhost, and on tun0/ppp0/sl0 the hostname assigned by an ISP? Now, I don't know why anyone would do that to a poor box, yet... Yours freely, David Kleiner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:28:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA04629 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:28:44 -0700 Received: from scratchy.itsnet.com (scratchy.itsnet.com [204.118.1.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA04596 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:28:38 -0700 Received: from mail.itsnet.com by scratchy.itsnet.com; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:38:53 -0600 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 09:38:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199508181538.JAA01057@scratchy.itsnet.com> X-Sender: blair@itsnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Archie Cobbs From: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Subject: Re: FreeBSD??? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >The problem is with the version of make that comes with 2.0.5, >it has a problem with lines containing . > >The solution is to get a newer version from ftp.freebsd.org. >I think it's available as a pkg file (confirmation?). > >-Archie I found two of them under packages/development, which one do I want: dmake-4.0.tgz or gmake-3.74.tgz Thanks ---------------------------------------------- Blair Schmittel Cyber-Naut, L.C Systems Administrator, Operations Manager blair@itsnet.com When in doubt, blame the phone company From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:37:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA06047 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:37:07 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA06032 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:36:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA29255 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:39:01 -0400 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.org (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA23730 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 04:08:01 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA04084 ; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 01:05:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 01:05:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199508140805.BAA04084@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Questions about filesystems From: wbailey@infocomp.csir.co.za (WWW Form) To: www@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The machine this came from was: phantom.csir.co.za Hi I am from the C.S.I.R in S.A and we are running a freeBSD news server and would like to know of there is a possibility of have a filesystem bigger than 2 Gig ? I would also like to know if there is a way of joining to disks to reflect one filesystem ? I would appreciate all the help I can get. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:37:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA06141 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:37:32 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA06121 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:37:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA29260 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:39:32 -0400 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [192.216.222.4]) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15371 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 13:50:33 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA16805 ; Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:48:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 10:48:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199508161748.KAA16805@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Subject: Questions about FreeBSD From: edw@nchgr.nih.gov (WWW Form) To: www@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The machine this came from was: (null) Could you direct me to where I can ask a question about FreeBSD. I have a two disk Pentium system, disk 1 is Windows 95 and disk 2 is FreeBSD. When I upgraded I lost the boot manager and can not figure out the process to be able to boot between the 'DOS' vs "FreeBSD". I thought this was done at the fdisk level but am at a lost. Any direction is appreciated. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:37:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA06193 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:37:43 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA06169 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:37:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA29265 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:39:46 -0400 Received: from freefall.FreeBSD.org (freefall.cdrom.com [192.216.222.4]) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA24389 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 18:00:38 -0400 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA11552 ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:58:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 1995 14:58:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199508172158.OAA11552@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Subject: root, wheel and super user From: fburroug@csci.csusb.edu (WWW Form) To: www@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The machine this came from was: blaze.csci.csusb.edu question -> I installed FreeBDS on my home computer, do I automaticly have Super User access? I find that many of my files are denied to me. to me. Upon installation I selected to install everything under the dists folder from a dos partition. When I go to change the permission with the chmod command, dennied. Question -> What is ment by 'wheel'? Question -> Is 'root' a relative term to where you are, or, is '/' the one and only root? Unix takes a bit to learn! thanks frank From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:38:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA06299 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:38:14 -0700 Received: from grad.csee.usf.edu (grad.csee.usf.edu [131.247.1.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA06280 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:38:09 -0700 Received: (server@localhost) by grad.csee.usf.edu (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA07079; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:38:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Server X-Sender: server@grad To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help Installing FreeBSD 2.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I just purchased a FreeBSD 2.0 CDROM from a store, and am having problems installing... Specifically, I cannot seem to get FreeBSD to boot from my second IDE drive. I install the boot manager on my master drive, go through the partitioning process for the slave drive: 200 megs for DOS, 200 megs for FreeBSD (I make the BSD partition bootable), make the assignments for /root and /swap, and procede. Upon reboot, boot manager asks for F1 for DOS or F5 for drive 2. I select drive 2. A submenu comes up asking for DOS, FreeBSD, or Drive 1. I of course select BSD, where I then get the boot prompt. I type in "wd(1,a)/kernel" as prompted in the instructions, to boot off the second drive, but the system freezes... (The little spinning character doesn't even move) No disk activity. What shall I do? My hardware: AMD DX4-120 SIS471 based motherboard Diamond Stealth 32 (I'm gunna have fun getting X setup, aren't I) 8 megs o RAM Quantum FireBall 1080A - master Western Digital 420 - slave Promise 2300+ Please help!!! Thanks in advance, Rob server@babbage.csee.usf.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:38:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA06400 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:38:39 -0700 Received: from lashley.slip.netcom.com (lashley.slip.netcom.com [192.187.134.225]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA05970 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:36:30 -0700 From: patl@asimov.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org (asimov.volant.org [192.0.2.1]) by lashley.slip.netcom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA17340 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:33:55 -0700 Received: by asimov.volant.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29959; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:34:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:34:28 -0700 Message-Id: <9508181534.AA29959@asimov.volant.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape -vs- uname() Reply-To: lashley@netcom.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm running the BSDi version of Netscape 1.1 on FreeBSD 2.0.5. It seems to be working fine, but when started, it reports: netscape: uname() failed; can't tell what system we're running on This doesn't appear to be much of a problem, but I have been denied access to some Web sites that I could see when using Netscape 1.1 from a SPARCstation; and was wondering if the uname() problem might be causing some authentication error. Which leads to the question: Is there a work-around for the uname() problem? My only other problem with NetScape is related to color usage when displaying remotely on my SPARCstation. The SPARCstation has a 24bit color framebuffer, and the netscape image colors are badly messed up unless I force it to use a PseudoColor visual. I suspect that both problems are caused by static linking to a bad/incompatible libraries... -Pat From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 08:59:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA08930 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:59:32 -0700 Received: from ix6.ix.netcom.com (ix6.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA08918 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:59:29 -0700 Received: from by ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id IAA17594; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:56:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 08:56:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199508181556.IAA17594@ix6.ix.netcom.com> From: fadorno@ix.netcom.com (Fred Adorno ) Subject: Sendmail To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For purposes of getting e-mail, should I continue login as root and use an alias for root or should I put myself in as a user with root privileges then use an alias? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 10:50:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA25914 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:50:42 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA25897 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 10:50:37 -0700 Received: from trick.cs.tu-berlin.de (diameter@trick.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.26.41]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA13184 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:50:28 +0200 From: Jan Sladky Received: (diameter@localhost) by trick.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA01836 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:50:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199508181750.TAA01836@trick.cs.tu-berlin.de> Subject: how do i install this To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:50:21 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, i have mounted a cdrom with some FreeBSD packages from an OS/2 NFS server. (Yes, i have FreeBSD 2.0 installed). Now i can see a PORTS-2.0 directory and in this directory there some sub- directories sorted by program category (like graphics). those directories contain (yawn) again directories with the individual ports (as it seems) like 'seyon'. But i can see no .tgz file or something like this. only three directories named 'files', 'patches' and 'pkg' plus a makefile. the pkg directory contains COMMENT, DESCR and PLIST. I would like to install some software but i'am totally clueless about how to do it. How do i do install for example 'seyon' ??? (what would be the name i would give pkg_add ?) any hints appreciated, Jan -- visit my www home page !!! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 11:22:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA03209 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:22:42 -0700 Received: from moon.pr.erau.edu (moon.pr.erau.edu [192.101.135.8]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA03200 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:22:40 -0700 Received: from moon by moon.pr.erau.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #16) id m0sjW4U-0002FqC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 11:23 MST Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:23:09 -0700 (MST) From: Stephen Waits X-Sender: swaits@moon To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: User PPP Server??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm having problems getting iijppp to work as a server. I'm trying to dial into my FreeBSD machine at work. I'm using Trumpet Winsock 2.1e and Windows 3.1 at home. I've also tried Dial-Up networking and Windows '95 from home to no avail. A step-by-step install or ANY tips would be VERY VERY helpful.. TIA.. (please cc: responses to swaits@pr.erau.edu) --Steve (http://pr.erau.edu/~swaits) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 11:28:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA03979 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:28:55 -0700 Received: from astro1.demon.co.uk (astro1.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.138]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA03960 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:28:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:18:26 BST From: ndj@astro1.demon.co.uk (Nick James) Reply-To: ndj@astro1.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <485@astro1.demon.co.uk> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cirrus Logic voice modem X-Mailer: PCElm 1.10 Lines: 17 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have just bought a cheap 14.4k modem which does data, fax and voice. This modem comes with negligable documentation but fax and data are standard and understandable. It says nothing about its voice capabilities except that it is based on a "Cirrus Logic" chip-set. The software that comes with it implements a pretty good voice-mail system under Widows but I try to run that apology for an OS as little as possible. Can anyone direct me towards a FreeBSD package that can handle voice mail with this type of modem or, failing that, suggest where I might get hold of some info on the Cirrus command set so I could write my own. BTW I am still running 2.0R. It has never given me any problems so I can't be bothered to upgrade just yet. Thanks for any help. Nick James. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 11:29:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA04140 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:29:43 -0700 Received: from sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu (eastham.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu [146.245.1.21]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA04134 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 11:29:39 -0700 Received: from robeson.brooklyn.cuny.edu (robeson.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu) by sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1a) id AA07424; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:29:36 EDT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:29:36 EDT From: dayton@sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu (Dayton Clark) Message-Id: <9508181829.AA07424@sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu> Received: by robeson.brooklyn.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18352; Fri, 18 Aug 95 14:29:31 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: EISA configuration Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Folks, I've had two EISA machines for awhile, both running FreeBSD. The problem is that when I put ISA cards in they are not detected. I've figured its a problem of the configuration and I've spent some time fiddling with configuration files trying to make the cards visible. But all I have for reference are the existing EISA configuration files. My "Fix Your Own PC" book doesn't help either. More recently, I've been browsing the net for some information on the configuration file syntax. I haven't found any newsgroup or www page that helps. Has EISA fallen off the map so quickly? With apologies for misplaced queston, but does anyone have a pointer on EISA configurations? In particular, configurations for ISA cards in EISA busses. To be concrete, one card that does not show up is a Mitsumi CD-ROM (2X) controller. thanks, dayton _________ _____/ D \_____________ | | | Dayton Clark | | CIS Department | | Brooklyn College/CUNY | | Brooklyn, New York 11210 | | | | 718/951-4811 | | dayton@brooklyn.cuny.edu | |___________________________| From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 14:06:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA23890 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:06:51 -0700 Received: from bubba.tribe.com ([205.184.207.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA23882 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:06:48 -0700 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.tribe.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA02383; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:05:37 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199508182105.OAA02383@bubba.tribe.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD??? To: blair@itsnet.com (Blair Schmittel) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 14:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199508181538.JAA01057@scratchy.itsnet.com> from "Blair Schmittel" at Aug 18, 95 09:38:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 464 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >The problem is with the version of make that comes with 2.0.5, > >it has a problem with lines containing . > > > >The solution is to get a newer version from ftp.freebsd.org. > >I think it's available as a pkg file (confirmation?). > > > >-Archie > > I found two of them under packages/development, which one do I want: > dmake-4.0.tgz or gmake-3.74.tgz gmake should work fine... just create a soft-link: ln -s gmake /usr/bin/make -Archie From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 15:30:13 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA27972 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:30:13 -0700 Received: from titan (titan.cs.mci.com [166.37.12.241]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA27961 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:30:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:30:49 -0600 Message-Id: <95081816304854@titan.cs.mci.com> From: tst@titan.cs.mci.com (Thomas S. Traylor) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Need help configuring a PCMCIA Ethernet card (ze0) X-VMS-To: smtp%"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like a little help configuring a PCMCIA ethernet (ze0) on my notebook computer. The card is a Megahertz 10BaseT. The notebook is a Dell 320sli 386DX, 10MB Memory / 82MB Quantum HD running FreeBSD 2.0.5-Release. FreeBSD recognizes the ethernet card. (I think?) Here is the output of dmseg: FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE #0: Thu Aug 17 23:00:54 1995 root@vulture:/usr/src/sys/compile/OWL CPU: i386DX (386-class CPU) real memory = 10289152 (2512 pages) config> ls device port irq drq iomem iosize unit flags enabled fdc0 0x3f0 6 2 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes wdc0 0x1f0 14 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes sc0 0x60 1 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes sio0 0x3f8 4 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes lpt0 0xffffffff 7 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes psm0 0x60 12 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes pca0 0x0 -1 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes ze0 0x300 5 -1 0xd8000 0 0 0x0 Yes npx0 0xf0 13 -1 0x0 0 0 0x0 Yes config> attach ze0 ze0: address 00:00:00:00:00:00, type (null) (0bit), MAU (null) attach returned status of 0x1 config> enable ze0 config> quit avail memory = 9121792 (2227 pages) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16450 lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with sc0 at 0x60 pca0 on isa pca0: PC speaker audio driver fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 82MB (168470 sectors), 991 cyls, 10 heads, 17 S/T, 512 B/S ze: pcmcia slot 0: Megahertz~CC10BT/2~PCMCIA 10BASE-T/2 ETHERNET ADAPTER~ 000086050DA0~~ ze: slot 1: no card in slot ze0 not found at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: 387 emulator I only have one PCMCIA slot on the computer. It looks to have found the ethernet card at slot 0. Why then does it say "ze0 not found at 0x300"? How do you make FreeBSD check slot 1? Since I only have on physical openning in the side of the notebook, I assume that slot 0 corresponds to it. I took the default configuration for the PCMCIA card. Which is (according to the book) IRQ 5 and I/O Base 300. lsdev -c does not show the ze0 device: # This listing automatically generated by lsdev(1) CPU cpu0 controller isa0 sc0 at isa? tty port 0x60 irq 1 sio0 at isa? tty port 0x3f8 irq 4 lpt0 at isa? tty port 0x378 irq 7 pca0 at isa? tty fdc0 at isa? bio port 0x3f0 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 wdc0 at isa? port 0x1f0 irq 14 wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 npx0 at isa? port 0xf0 But ifconfig -a shows a ze0 network device: ze0: flags=822 mtu 1500 ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 lp0: flags=810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 Any suggestions or ideas would be most appreciated. Thanks, Tom tst@titan.cs.mci.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 15:55:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA28842 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:55:42 -0700 Received: from gw2.att.com (gw2.att.com [192.20.239.134]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA28836 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 15:55:41 -0700 Received: from ihats1.ih.att.com by ig1.att.att.com id AA00477; Fri, 18 Aug 95 12:04:08 EDT Received: by ihats1.ih.att.com (4.1/EMS-1.1.1 SunOS) id AA01516; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:26:07 CDT From: imdave@ihats103.ih.att.com Received: from ihats103.ih.att.com by ihats1.ih.att.com (4.1/EMS-1.1.1 SunOS) id AA01510; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:25:55 CDT Received: by ihats103.ih.att.com (4.1/EMS-1.1.1 SunOS) id AA02468; Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:22:07 CDT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 10:22:07 CDT Message-Id: <9508181522.AA02468@ihats103.ih.att.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ** How to add second SCSI disk ? ** Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > After fdisk and some partition definitions I am getting using > "disklabel -r sd1": > > # /dev/rsd1c: > type: SCSI > disk: sd1s1 > label: > flags: > bytes/sector: 512 > sectors/track: 32 > tracks/cylinder: 64 > sectors/cylinder: 2048 > cylinders: 80 > sectors/unit: 165856 > rpm: 0 > interleave: 0 > trackskew: 0 > cylinderskew: 0 > headswitch: 0 # milliseconds > track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds > drivedata: 0 > > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 145856 20000 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 9*- 80*) > b: 20000 0 swap # (Cyl. 0 - 9*) > c: 165856 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 80*) > : : > > 3. If I change the order to > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 145856 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 9*- 80*) > b: 20000 145856 swap # (Cyl. 0 - 9*) > c: 165856 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 80*) > > Mount does not accpet it, "/dev/sd1a on /mnt: Incorrect super block.". Why? > As has been mentioned, a file system must be created before one can mount. However, when I added a new SCSI disk recently, I ran into a problem that I eventually thought I figured out: if I put swap at offset 0, then the disklabel info was written over as soon as the swap was used. If I put a filesystem at offset 0, then there seems to be some slop at the beginning of the filesystem which allows the disklabel info to remain and not be written over. Is this correct or did I somehow fix my problem but completely misunderstand what was going on? Dave Bodenstab imdave@ihats1.ih.att.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 16:19:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA29839 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:19:14 -0700 Received: from gdwest.gd.com ([134.120.3.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA29833 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 16:19:12 -0700 Received: by gdwest.gd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11148; Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:20:13 PDT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:20:13 PDT From: eyfarris@gdwest.gd.com (Eblan Y Farris) Message-Id: <9508182320.AA11148@gdwest.gd.com> To: terry@cs.weber.edu, ugen@latte.worldbank.org Subject: Re: Dual Pentiums Cc: chris@crow.ctc.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, kallio@jyu.fi, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The Dual Pentium is a neat issue, especially at 133MHz. Most motherboard co's will shy away from the Dual 133's and only support Dual 100's. There have been at least two versions of P133, the first did not support the Dual Configuration. efarris@surfusa.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 17:07:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA02457 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:07:15 -0700 Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA02423 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:07:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA24961 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:06:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199508190006.SAA24961@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Steve Passe To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:06:53 -0600 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, My bt946c died again, ordered a 2940W to replace it. means I need to update to -current (now using 1.1.5.1 on that machine). my connectivity makes it hard to get the entire source tree, 3 questions: 1: when is next SNAP expected to happen? 2: when will 2.1R happen? 3: would the 950726-SNAP work with the 2940W? Thanx in advance! -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 17:20:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA03120 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:20:54 -0700 Received: from ix7.ix.netcom.com (ix7.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA03114 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:20:52 -0700 Received: from by ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA28177; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:18:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:18:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199508190018.RAA28177@ix7.ix.netcom.com> From: fadorno@ix.netcom.com (Fred Adorno ) Subject: Modem Setup To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please advise how to get an ext. USR 14.4 modem setup with this software for a single-user for dial-in and dial-out purposes and how to test it with the phone #'s in /etc/phone. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 17:39:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA04071 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:39:19 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA04063 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:39:17 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.34]) by Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA28101; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:37:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA02670; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:39:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199508190039.RAA02670@corbin.Root.COM> To: tst@titan.cs.mci.com (Thomas S. Traylor) cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need help configuring a PCMCIA Ethernet card (ze0) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Aug 95 16:30:49 MDT." <95081816304854@titan.cs.mci.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 17:39:44 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >config> attach ze0 >ze0: address 00:00:00:00:00:00, type (null) (0bit), MAU (null) >attach returned status of 0x1 Don't use the attach command. It is evil and has been recently removed. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 18:29:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA06341 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:29:03 -0700 Received: from ix7.ix.netcom.com (ix7.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA06332 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:29:01 -0700 Received: from by ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id SAA11685; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:26:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:26:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199508190126.SAA11685@ix7.ix.netcom.com> From: fadorno@ix.netcom.com (Fred Adorno ) Subject: /etc/aliases To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I blew away my file. I can I get a copy of the original that's on the disc? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 18:29:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA06414 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:29:28 -0700 Received: from Mabuse.Vir.com (News.Vir.com [199.84.154.68]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA06407 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 18:29:26 -0700 Received: from zeta.avenet.com by Vir.com (8.6.10/2.0) id UAA16571; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:21:47 -0500 Received: (from rjbproc@localhost) by zeta.avenet.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA01851; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:27:17 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:27:16 +0000 () From: Robert Burns X-Sender: rjbproc@zeta.avenet.com To: questions@freebsd.org cc: xrn@ic.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Subject: xrn : X toolkit Error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've compiled xrn successfully but I get the following error when I run xrn: xrn: X Toolkit Error: NULL ArgVal in XtGetValues If anyone has any ideas please reply! btw: I removed the vprintf.c port which came with xrn. Argument formats do not match prototype declarations in /usr/include/stdio.h (These routines are part of FreeBSD libraries). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Burns (rjbproc@vir.com) Mtl., Ca. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 19:04:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA07457 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:04:03 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil ([129.52.114.42]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA07448 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:03:59 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA00334; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:13:35 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:13:35 +0000 () From: Berkeley NEWS! To: Jan Sladky cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how do i install this In-Reply-To: <199508181750.TAA01836@trick.cs.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jan, Your going to like this one!!! get into the directory of the software package you would like ported, then type make. i.e. cd /usr/ports/net/chimera make make install Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Jan Sladky wrote: > Hi, > i have mounted a cdrom with some FreeBSD packages from an OS/2 NFS server. > (Yes, i have FreeBSD 2.0 installed). > > Now i can see a PORTS-2.0 directory and in this directory there some sub- > directories sorted by program category (like graphics). > those directories contain (yawn) again directories with the individual ports > (as it seems) like 'seyon'. > > But i can see no .tgz file or something like this. > only three directories named 'files', 'patches' and 'pkg' plus a makefile. > the pkg directory contains COMMENT, DESCR and PLIST. > > I would like to install some software but i'am totally clueless about > how to do it. > > How do i do install for example 'seyon' ??? > (what would be the name i would give pkg_add ?) > > any hints appreciated, > Jan > -- > visit my www home page !!! > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 19:10:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA07712 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:10:01 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil ([129.52.114.42]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA07704 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:09:57 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA00370; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:20:02 GMT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:20:01 +0000 () From: Berkeley NEWS! To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Modem Setup In-Reply-To: <199508190018.RAA28177@ix7.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, its a little tricky, but not real bad. First you need to install your outside communication software for the modem. try setting up cu. You could do a "man cu" to see the proper config files!!! Second port /usr/ports/comms/mgetty+sendfax. This is a daemon designed to replace getty in your /etc/ttys file. This daemon will watch over the comm port specified (if set up right) and wait for a "RING" from the line, then it will automatically send back a "ATA". Once it is up, it does work great!!! - Jeff Dean -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Fred Adorno wrote: > Please advise how to get an ext. USR 14.4 modem setup with this > software for a single-user for dial-in and dial-out purposes and how to > test it with the phone #'s in /etc/phone. > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 19:46:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA08847 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:46:50 -0700 Received: from lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw [140.109.7.3]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA08838 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 19:46:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199508190246.TAA08838@freefall.FreeBSD.org> Received: by lin.wsl.sinica.edu.tw (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA16763; Sat, 19 Aug 95 10:33:50 +0800 From: Yen-Wei Liu Subject: Re: Netscape -vs- uname() To: lashley@netcom.com Date: Sat, 19 Aug 95 10:33:50 EAT Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9508181534.AA29959@asimov.volant.org>; from "patl@asimov.volant.org" at Aug 18, 95 8:34 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm running the BSDi version of Netscape 1.1 on FreeBSD 2.0.5. > It seems to be working fine, but when started, it reports: > > netscape: uname() failed; can't tell what system > we're running on > > I suspect that both problems are caused by static linking to > a bad/incompatible libraries... > Just a wild guess : uname on FreeBSD 2.0[5]R has some bugs. Struct utsname would be corrupted after calling uname(). It was fixed within last month. It sounds like why Netscape doesn't work. -- Yen-Wei Liu Internet e-mail address:ywliu@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw ywliu@gate.sinica.edu.tw FAX: +886-2-783-6444 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 20:10:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA09595 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:10:29 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA09589 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:10:25 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA17617; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:10:17 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id XAA13079; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:10:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Jan Sladky cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how do i install this In-Reply-To: <199508181750.TAA01836@trick.cs.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Aug 1995, Jan Sladky wrote: > Hi, > i have mounted a cdrom with some FreeBSD packages from an OS/2 NFS server. > (Yes, i have FreeBSD 2.0 installed). > > Now i can see a PORTS-2.0 directory and in this directory there some sub- > directories sorted by program category (like graphics). > those directories contain (yawn) again directories with the individual ports > (as it seems) like 'seyon'. > > But i can see no .tgz file or something like this. > only three directories named 'files', 'patches' and 'pkg' plus a makefile. > the pkg directory contains COMMENT, DESCR and PLIST. > > I would like to install some software but i'am totally clueless about > how to do it. > > How do i do install for example 'seyon' ??? > (what would be the name i would give pkg_add ?) > > any hints appreciated, Jan, you don't really need to know whre the sources are to build the stuff, but FYI they are in /usr/ports/distfiles. All you really need to do is go into the directory you're interested in and type 'make', then 'make install" (probably need to be root to install). The system does know where the sources are, and it handles verifying the sources and unpacking them. Don't forget to do a 'make clean' once you've installed the software, else your disk will fill up with expanded sources. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 20:16:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA09831 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:16:50 -0700 Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA09825 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 20:16:48 -0700 Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0sjeIT-0004rlC; Fri, 18 Aug 95 23:10 EDT Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.52.5]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27928; Fri, 18 Aug 95 23:09:55 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA15248; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:07:18 +0500 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <9508190307.AA15248@elmer.ct.picker.com> Subject: Strange DNS Query when "su" is run To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 23:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 935 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have 2.0.5 set up with SLIP across a modem link. Whenever I "su" to root (or any user for that matter) on my FreeBSD box, FreeBSD issues a DNS query across my SLIP link for some reason. If I have turned off my modem and have neglected to kill slattach, su locks up when invoked and I can only suspend it. Also, kill won't get rid of this process. In trying to track the problem further, I kicked off tcpdump on the SLIP interface, and found out that DNS query is pretty strange...an A? query for "" with a few bytes left over at the end: 22:48:49.477448 144.54.60.10.1204 > 144.54.52.2.53: 2+ A? . (17) (ttl 62, id 32018) 4500 002d 7d12 0000 3e11 6f35 9036 3c0a 9036 3402 04b4 0035 0019 6757 0002 0100 0001 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0100 Does anybody understand this behavior? Thanks, Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 21:02:07 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA11037 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:02:07 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA11031 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:02:03 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA18215; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:04:57 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199508190434.OAA18215@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Booteasy can't find partition? To: bwern@jax.jaxnet.com (Ben Wern) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:04:56 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199508180444.AAA09798@jax.jaxnet.com> from "Ben Wern" at Aug 18, 95 00:40:11 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1186 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Ben Wern stands accused of saying: > I'm having a bit of trouble with my installation of 2.0.5. The Install > seems to have gone ok, but it won't boot correctly. The first partition > (25M) is DOS, and was used for the install. The second is 900M, and is > FreeBSD. The third is swap space, about 250M. When the boot manager comes > up, and I select the second partition, it tells me that the partition is out > of reach from the bios, and if I attempt to boot anyways, it tells me > Error: C:0 H:0 S:0. I haven't seen a reply for this, so I'll just add : The _entire_ root filesystem must be below the 500M mark for the bootstrap to be sure it can work. (If the kernel was over the 500M mark the BIOS wouldn't be able to read it, and there's no way of guaranteeing that it always will be.) > Ben Wern -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 21:27:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA11746 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:27:24 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA11740 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:27:23 -0700 From: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Received: (from root@localhost) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id FAA00945; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 05:35:04 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 05:35:04 GMT Message-Id: <199508190535.FAA00945@server.keck.lmu.edu> To: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu, xiao@bnr.ca Subject: re:How to run Xview and olvwm on BSD 2.0 Cc: mkiser@bnr.ca, questions@freebsd.org Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > XView is a set of libraries so you dont run it. It provides an development > environment complaint to Sun's open-look. A few Sun tools like cmdtool, > clock are included. I think my questions might be misleading. What I try to ask is that I want to run Xview but I can not start either olvwm or olwm. > I have tried starting olvwm/olwm via /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit. The server > starts and I was excited for about 15 seconds: it crashes at my first > key stroke to a shell window. (I tend to believe this is a mach32 only > 'feature'.) Do you know how to start olwm or olvwm? I thought I can start them from the .xinitrc file . I think mach32 is a pretty good video card. I have been having trouble with it when I first get it. But it seems to work ok now(after some driver update). Thanks for your reply. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai 8/18/95 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 21:51:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA12274 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:51:59 -0700 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.bnr.ca [192.58.194.73]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA12268 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:51:57 -0700 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:51:12 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:51:06 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:50:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:50:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1740711/g=bo/i=b/s=xiao/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.550:19.07.95.04.51.06] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: re:How to run... From: "bo (b.) xiao" Message-ID: <"8551 Sat Aug 19 00:51:08 1995"@bnr.ca> To: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Cc: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu, "matthew (m.) kiser" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: re:How to run Xview and olvwm on BSD 2.0 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message "How to run Xview and olvwm on BSD 2.0", tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu writes: > I think my questions might be misleading. What I try to ask is that > I want to run Xview but I can not start either olvwm or olwm. In file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc, close to the end, replace 'twm' with either 'olwm' or 'olvwm'. Then do a startx. I dont have a .xinitrc in my home so it goes to the system default. I would like to hear the result because it crashes my x-server. Bo From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Aug 18 22:36:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA13286 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:36:17 -0700 Received: from netris1 (corpcomm.net [199.165.217.101]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA13280 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 1995 22:36:16 -0700 Received: from fgo1-a1.corpcomm.net by netris1 (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27659; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:32:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:32:35 -0500 Message-Id: <9508190532.AA27659@netris1> X-Sender: sheeme@CorpComm.NET X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: sheeme@corpcomm.net (Steve Heemeyer) Subject: Tape drive problems Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone else seen this problem. Whenever I try to access the tape drive I get the following message. Aug 18 23:37:25 Fridmani /kernel: st0(uha0:6:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST csi:10,8,0,0 asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB field replaceable unit: 2 Aug 18 23:37:25 Fridmani /kernel: st0: Cannot set selected mode I have been able to reproduce the error on a different machine with a different controller. Is this a problem in the SCSI tape driver or a hardware problem. I don't have access to another drive, so I can't say for sure whether it is repeatable in that respect. I can't remember when the drive started giving these errors, but if I go back to the Feb 2 snapshot the drive works fine. I have done some debugging, and have pinpointed it to the Mode Select command. If necessary I can include a copy of the debug traces. Aug 16 12:41:52 Fridmani /kernel: uha0: reading board settings, dma=5 int=15 id=7 Aug 16 12:41:52 Fridmani /kernel: uha0 at 0x330-0x33f irq 15 drq 5 on isa Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: uha0 waiting for scsi devices to settle Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: (uha0:0:0): "COMPAQ C2244 0BC4" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: sd0(uha0:0:0): Direct-Access 532MB (1091000 512 byte sectors) Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: (uha0:1:0): "MAXTOR MXT-1240S I1.2" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: sd1(uha0:1:0): Direct-Access 1183MB (2423457 512 byte sectors) Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: (uha0:5:0): "TEXEL CD-ROM DM-XX28 3.06" type 5 removable SCSI 2 Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: cd0(uha0:5:0): CD-ROM cd present.[62955 x 2048 byte records] Aug 16 12:41:53 Fridmani /kernel: (uha0:6:0): "TANDBERG TDC 3800 J02Y" type 1 removable SCSI 2 Aug 16 12:41:54 Fridmani /kernel: st0(uha0:6:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, 512-byte blocks, write-protected === Steve Heemeyer sheeme@CorpComm.NET Network Manager Tharaldson Enterprises From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 06:16:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA01906 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 06:16:00 -0700 Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA01900 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 06:15:53 -0700 Received: (from uphya001@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00836; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:13:28 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:13:28 +0200 From: Lars koeller Message-Id: <199508191313.PAA00836@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM' dated: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:27:16 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! What version do you use? I've compiled xrn 7.03 without problems! Look for it with archie or send me a mail and I'll put it on my ftp server. Lars -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller E-Mail: University of Rostock (Germany) lars.koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Fachbereich Physik Universitätsplatz 3 Phone: +49 381/498-1665 or 498-1648 18051 Rostock Fax: +49 381/498-1667 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 06:44:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA02511 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 06:44:18 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA02503 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 06:44:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA00913 ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:06:15 +0100 X-Message: This is a dial-up site. Quick responses to e-mails should not be relied upon. Thanks! To: Robert Burns cc: questions@freebsd.org, xrn@ic.eecs.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: xrn : X toolkit Error In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Aug 1995 21:27:16 -0000." Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:06:13 +0100 Message-ID: <911.808837573@palmer.demon.co.uk> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In message , Robert Bu rns writes: >I've compiled xrn successfully but I get the following error when I run xrn: >xrn: X Toolkit Error: NULL ArgVal in XtGetValues >If anyone has any ideas please reply! Err. Which version of xrn did you use? There was a change in the X libraries between R5 and R6 which means that older versions of xrn WON'T work (and I did look at it briefly, but the older version has this problem in a lot of places and wouldn't have been trivial for me to fix). I think xrn 6.blah should. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 07:02:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA03210 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 07:02:19 -0700 Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA03204 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 07:02:16 -0700 Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0sjoKm-0004rlC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 09:53 EDT Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.52.5]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02482; Sat, 19 Aug 95 09:52:57 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA15684; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 09:50:21 +0500 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <9508191350.AA15684@elmer.ct.picker.com> Subject: Re: Strange DNS Query when "su" is run To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 09:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 486 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I have 2.0.5 set up with SLIP across a modem link. Whenever I "su" to > root (or any user for that matter) on my FreeBSD box, FreeBSD issues a DNS > query across my SLIP link for some reason. If I have turned off my modem and A follow-up to my original post. My /etc/host.conf is set up to look at hosts first and bind second (no nis). If I comment out the bind, the DNS query of course doesn't get sent across the SLIP link. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 11:43:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA21860 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:43:06 -0700 Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA21851 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:43:04 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA26434 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:43:02 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id OAA02651; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:43:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:43:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: ppp Working! almost ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I finally have ppp working from the machine dialing the connection, and automatically. That machine is n3lxx.cbr, a totally private net. Trouble is, I can't get the other machine, Journey2.cbr, to realize there's a route through n3lxx to the world. Here's the output of netstat -rn on journey2: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.64.2 UGSc 11 0 ed0 192.168.64 link#1 UC 0 0 192.168.64.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 22 lo0 192.168.64.2 0:0:c0:e8:15:52 UHLW 12 15 ed0 598 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 Everything works fine from n3lxx, but I need the connectivity on journey2 for some sound experimentation. nslookup works fine from journey2, but seemingly nothing else will. rsh fails to hosts down the ppp line, but works to n3lxx. Help! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 11:48:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA22219 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:48:03 -0700 Received: from jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil ([129.52.114.42]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA22213 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:47:55 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA00358; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:59:03 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:59:03 +0000 () From: "Jeffrey D. Dean " To: Questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have never set up nfs before. I am getting a portmap not registered error when trying to mount_nfs to myself. I have a funny feeling I do not have /etc/fstab set up properly. What other config files must be edited before I can share a directory via nfs? Can anyone send me an example of a working /etc/fstab. Thanx Jeff -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Jeffrey D. Dean SrA - - Computer Technician / Programmer - - Wright Patterson AFB, Ohio - - root@jd-unix.wpafb.af.mil - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 11:53:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id LAA22690 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:53:00 -0700 Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA22684 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:52:59 -0700 Received: from latte.eng.umd.edu (latte.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.15]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA25050 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:52:56 -0400 Received: (chuckr@localhost) by latte.eng.umd.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id OAA02778; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:52:56 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 14:52:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: ppp Working! almost ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Aug 1995, Chuck Robey wrote: Forget it, I figured it out. The default route had to be -net. > I finally have ppp working from the machine dialing the connection, and > automatically. That machine is n3lxx.cbr, a totally private net. > Trouble is, I can't get the other machine, Journey2.cbr, to realize > there's a route through n3lxx to the world. Here's the output of netstat > -rn on journey2: > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 192.168.64.2 UGSc 11 0 ed0 > 192.168.64 link#1 UC 0 0 > 192.168.64.1 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 22 lo0 > 192.168.64.2 0:0:c0:e8:15:52 UHLW 12 15 ed0 598 > 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 > > Everything works fine from n3lxx, but I need the connectivity on journey2 > for some sound experimentation. nslookup works fine from journey2, but > seemingly nothing else will. rsh fails to hosts down the ppp line, but > works to n3lxx. Help! > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and > (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 (Freebsd 2.0.5-snap-0726) and (301) 220-2114 | n3lxx (FreeBSD 2.0.5-snap-0622) -- Great! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 12:25:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA25558 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:25:43 -0700 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (diamond.sierra.net [204.94.39.235]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA25552 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:25:42 -0700 Received: from martis-d223.sierra.net by diamond.sierra.net with SMTP id AA14684 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:25:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199508191925.AA14684@diamond.sierra.net> From: "Jim Howard" To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 10:56:21 -0800 Subject: Re: 2.0.5 Eager to go into swap Reply-To: jiho@sierra.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk An ancient exchange between David Greenman and myself went as follows: > >I remember reading a gripe column in BYTE, where a networking support > >guy at Cray was complaining because customers wanted to run X on > >laptops and he couldn't do it for them. He recalled a time when X ran fine > >on Suns with 4 MB of RAM. Now we have a user who likes FreeBSD > >because it runs X fine with 16 MB (although others dispute that even with > >32 MB). I don't see where the basic server (extensions aside) has acquired > >much new functionality to account for the difference. It's just quadrupled > >in size and extrapolated its RAM requirements. > > > >Maybe that's why nobody wants to deal with this issue--it collapses into a > >flame war and nobody can do anything about it anyway! > > There are different levels of "fine"ness. I had a VAXstation-2000 here for > awhile. It runs a version of X11R3...and has only 6MB of RAM. It is absolutely > DOG slow...and not because the CPU is slow, but because it thrashes > constantly. Using it was an absolute pain. Similarly, a MicroVAX with 16MB of > memory also paged a little when running X - especially once you start using > things like gcc which is a complete memory pig (needing >3MB of memory). I finally looked up the original piece in BYTE. It was the February 1993 Stop Bit (page 286) titled "Software Gluttony," by Andy Nicholson, "a senior programmer/analyst working in network software development at Cray Research," and subtitled "A new world of bloated software threatens to consume all computing resources in its path". These are my favorite excerpts: "If users considered notebook computers ineffective because they lack the capacity to run big software, they might be less likely to buy one. But the truth is that users are more willing to buy a notebook computer than to upgrade an existing desktop computer. Thus, a huge new market is caught in a software catch-22, where buyers wait for notebook computers that are powerful enough to run their new software while software developers bog down hardware with ever-larger applications. Programmers must analyze their audience and the limitations of their preferred hardware..... "Some programmers consider this approach to be an unnecessary limitation on their creative abilities..... "Good programmers should always follow the principles of elegance, simplicity, economy, and effectiveness in their work. The aesthetics of quality programming require economical use of resources..... "Big resource-hogging programs are easy to find. The X Window System once ran fine on a 4-MB Sun-3/50 workstation, but the latest version doesn't perk up until you upgrade to an 8-MB Sparcstation. And you better have 16 MB if you want to run programs using boated X toolkits like OpenWindows or Motif....." Greenman refers to a couple of DEC workstations using the VAX architecture. Nicholson was talking about Suns. The hardware was different, and they ran different operating systems underneath X. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 12:33:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA26115 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:33:01 -0700 Received: from diamond.sierra.net (diamond.sierra.net [204.94.39.235]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA26109 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:33:00 -0700 Received: from martis-d223.sierra.net by diamond.sierra.net with SMTP id AA15303 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 19 Aug 1995 12:32:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199508191932.AA15303@diamond.sierra.net> From: "Jim Howard" To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 11:03:42 -0800 Subject: Novice Club News Reply-To: jiho@sierra.net Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk NOVICE CLUB NEWS Many of us MYSELF INCLUDED don't seem to quite have a handle on how to post messages to a mailing list. We let our mail programs fill in the "To:" line with redundant stuff, like individuals on the mailing list, in addition to the mailing list itself. And we let them fill in the "Cc:" (Carbon copy) line as well. The end result is that recipients get multiple copies of the same message, which have to be sorted through and deleted. We must all strive to edit our "To" and "Cc" lines properly, Novices! --Your Dutiful President From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 13:25:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id NAA29550 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:25:14 -0700 Received: from server.keck.lmu.edu ([157.242.66.198]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA29542 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 13:25:12 -0700 From: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu Received: (from tsai@localhost) by server.keck.lmu.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id VAA01765 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 21:33:10 GMT Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 21:33:10 GMT Message-Id: <199508192133.VAA01765@server.keck.lmu.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: MINE Compatiable Mail Program Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Someone tell me that if I want to attach files to my mail, I have to have a mail program that are MINE compatiable. I am wondering what mail program are MIME compatiable. Also, what is MIME starnd for? Thanks for the help. Yao-Wen Stephen Tsai From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 15:08:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id PAA12997 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:08:30 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA12987 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 15:08:24 -0700 Received: from localhost.cs.tu-berlin.de ([130.149.1.124]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA07700; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 00:00:55 +0200 Received: (from wosch@localhost) by localhost (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA01334; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:45:04 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:45:04 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Message-Id: <199508191445.QAA01334@localhost> To: Gerd Truschinski Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: cpp - manpage or shellscript In-Reply-To: <199508161817.UAA03998@freebsd.first.gmd.de> References: <199508161817.UAA03998@freebsd.first.gmd.de> Reply-to: Wolfram Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Gerd Truschinski writes: >the cpp manpage told me that > $ cpp t.c xxx >will create the outputfile xxx. > >But the output is on stdout and I get the error message > cpp: xxx: No such file or directory > >Who is wrong, the manpage or the shell script in /usr/bin/cpp? The manpage is for /usr/libexec/cpp. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 16:32:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id QAA19153 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:32:49 -0700 Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA19147 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 16:32:45 -0700 Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0sjxII-0004rlC; Sat, 19 Aug 95 19:27 EDT Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.52.5]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06371; Sat, 19 Aug 95 19:27:00 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16879; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:24:23 +0500 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <9508192324.AA16879@elmer.ct.picker.com> Subject: Re: MIME Compatible Mail Program To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1952 Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: tsai@server.keck.lmu.edu > Subject: MINE Compatiable Mail Program > > Hi! Someone tell me that if I want to attach files to my mail, I have to > have a mail program that are MINE compatiable. > I am wondering what mail program are MIME compatiable. Also, what is > MIME starnd for? MIME stands for Multipurpose Internet Mail Extension. It's one of the ways you can attach files to your mail easily, but not the only one. Sun's got their own attachment scheme too, but that doesn't help on FreeBSD (it's not as robust as MIME anyway). And there's always the manual uuencode when you don't have anything else. ELM 2.4, when compiled with support for metamail, supports MIME. I seem to remember that, if you don't mind a very minimal front end, you can use metamail directly to send mail. Personally, I like ELM's front end and use it exclusively at work. You'll find metamail in the 2.0.5 packages directory (ver 2.7 I think), but I haven't seen ELM compiled for FreeBSD yet and have been thinking about doing it myself. It makes attaching files via metamail very easy. E.g. to include a gif file in a mail message, simply put: [include mypic.gif image/gif base64] in your message body, and it does all the work. Also when you receive mail with MIME contents, your .mailcap file (using the same format used by most web browsers) tells metamail (via ELM) how to automatically kick off the appropriate viewer program to display the different MIME-encoded sections of your message. I'm interested to see the other mail programs the group mentions. If there's enough interest in ELM, I'll up compiling ELM on my pet projects list. Randall _____________________________________________________________________________ Randall Hopper | Picker International rhh@ct.picker.com | FAX: (216) 473-7098 *** WINDOWS from the folks who brought you EDLIN *** From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 19:32:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA24218 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:32:17 -0700 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA24212 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:32:15 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/PHILMAIL-1.11) with UUCP id TAA18452 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:24:40 -0700 Received: from merde.dis.org by merde.dis.org (8.6.11/MERDE-940323) id TAA02853; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:23:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199508200223.TAA02853@merde.dis.org> To: questions@freebsd.org, shipley@dis.org Subject: 3Com PCMCIA Etherlink III X-Phone: (510) 849-2230 X-Snail-address: 2560 Bancroft way #51;Berkeley CA 94704-1700 In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 19 Aug 1995 00:32:35 -0500. <9508190532.AA27659@netris1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2847.808885412.1@merde.dis.org> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:23:33 -0700 From: Pete Shipley Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone had problems with a PCMCIA Etherlink III from 3com? I am tring to install on to a NEC Versa/33 with a PCMCIA Etherlink III cared. The Card is seen from the boot up but it is not in the install menu nor can I ifconfig it from the shell. I am working with 2.1.0-950726-SNAP . From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 19:43:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA24818 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:43:04 -0700 Received: from moon.src.honeywell.com (moon.src.honeywell.com [129.235.16.32]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA24807 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 19:43:00 -0700 Received: from johnwayne.src.honeywell.com by moon.src.honeywell.com (4.1/smail2.6.3/SRCv0.25); Sat, 19 Aug 95 21:42:07 CDT id AA04513 for questions@freebsd.org at freebsd.org Posted-Date: Sat, 19 Aug 95 21:41:57 CDT Received: by johnwayne.src.honeywell.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA10654; Sat, 19 Aug 95 21:41:57 CDT Date: Sat, 19 Aug 95 21:41:57 CDT From: englehar@src.honeywell.com (Matt Englehart) Message-Id: <9508200241.AA10654@johnwayne.src.honeywell.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: control characters being echoed instead of interpreted Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've just succeeded on hardwiring a terminal to my FreeBSD box. The problem is that all of the control codes (^C, ^Z, ...) are simply being echoed, and not interpreted. Any suggestions? Thanks, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Aug 19 20:04:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA27622 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 20:04:32 -0700 Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA27615 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 1995 20:04:29 -0700 Received: from mail_gw.fwall.telecom.com.au(192.148.147.10) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma018752; Sun Aug 20 11:42:44 1995 Received: from cdn_mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail_gw.telecom.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma015559; Sun Aug 20 13:03:09 1995 Received: from amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (amalfi.trl.OZ.AU [137.147.99.99]) by cdn_mail.telecom.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA06202 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 13:03:08 +1000 Received: from orca1.vic.design.telecom.com.au ([145.136.55.131]) by amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA11006 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 13:03:00 +1000 Received: from netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au by orca1.vic.design.telecom.com.au with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA26323; Sun, 20 Aug 95 13:03:00 +1000 Received: from netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au [144.139.63.32]) by netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA18849 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 1995 11:30:45 +0759 Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 11:30:45 +0800 (WST) From: Terry Dwyer To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Any recomendations/problems with Pioneer DR-U124X CD-ROM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't get the Sony CDU-76S CD-ROM I ordered from my supplier, and they suggested athe Pioneer as a possible replacement. Has anyone here had any good/bad experiences using this drive they would care to share with me? _-_|\ Terry Dwyer E-Mail: tdwyer@netbsd08.dn.itg.telecom.com.au / \ System Administrator Phone: +61 9 491 5161 Fax: +61 9 221 2631 *_.^\_/ Telecom Australia Telstra Corporation MIME capable mailer v Perth WA ( I do not speak for Telstra or Telecom )