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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:11:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Feldman <green@zone.syracuse.net>
To: Adam McDougall <mcdougall@ameritech.net>
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Subject: Re: freezing problems with CAM and dpt
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Try not using Linux Netscape. I've seen reports of the latest Linux
versions of Netscape freezing the X servers, so you're not the only one.

Cheers,
Brian Feldman

On Mon, 21 Sep 1998, Adam McDougall wrote:

> Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
> > 
> > In article <19980916142943.C367@kublai.com> you wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 16, 1998 at 12:45:26PM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote:
> > >> Adam McDougall wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi, since doing several make worlds and kernels since CAM was in, I have
> > >> > had two total sudden system freezes.
> > >>
> > >> Whoops forgot to say I was using softupdates.
> > 
> > Can either of you reproduce this problem without softupdates?  If the
> > problem is in the CAM code, disabling softupdates should exacerbate
> > the problem as you will end up doing more I/O.
> > 
> > Suspicious of softupdates...
> > Justin
> > 
> 
> Yes I disabled softupdates and it still happened. Suspiciously I think
> each time the freeze occurred was when using (linux) ELF netscape with
> ELF world and Xfree. The very last crash happened when the disk was
> fairly idle, just scrolling around in netscape.  However it never froze
> the comp before CAM :/  
> 
> I noticed some commits about atlas II quirks, what do they mean?  Also,
> is there anything else I can try to help diagnose the problem?  Not much
> I can do once it's crashed, cant even ping it.
> 
> PS. I've been cvsup'ing and compiling world and kernel approx. daily to
> keep up to date on sources.
> 
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