From owner-freebsd-chat Fri May 8 09:35:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17995 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bugs.us.dell.com (bugs.us.dell.com [143.166.169.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA17959 for ; Fri, 8 May 1998 09:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@dell.com) Received: from ant (ant.us.dell.com [143.166.12.34]) by bugs.us.dell.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA11553; Fri, 8 May 1998 11:29:40 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980508112936.0397d2e0@bugs.us.dell.com> X-Sender: tony@bugs.us.dell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 11:29:36 -0500 To: jak@cetlink.net (John Kelly) From: Tony Overfield Subject: Re: ISA-PnP w\o BIOS support? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3552efbc.258248161@mail.cetlink.net> References: <3.0.3.32.19980508005947.006ba3b4@bugs.us.dell.com> <3.0.3.32.19980507095816.00689420@bugs.us.dell.com> <199805070251.TAA00511@antipodes.cdrom.com> <3.0.3.32.19980508005947.006ba3b4@bugs.us.dell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:58 AM 5/8/98 GMT, John Kelly wrote: >I have 486 DX4-100's running at 50MHz x 2 which do a full make world >(-DCLOBBER -DNOGAMES) in 4.5 hours. Many pentiums, with the PnP BIOS >you cherish, don't go much faster than that. So I believe that your >harsh opinion of older systems is justified ONLY in your mind. > >You're a victim of marketing which brainwashes people to believe they >must have the latest gadget, whatever it is. No, I'm not brainwashed. The newer systems "really are" faster and better. This seems to matter for most people. I think it's hard to buy a new system that isn't at least twice as fast as your DX4-100/50 systems. The most popular systems are about four times faster. >Computer manufacturers >won't do well in business unless people throw out their hardware every >three years and spend more money on new stuff. Nobody wants to turn away 486 and Pentium customers, but you can't sell those things if nobody wants to buy them. Some other large manufacturers are only recently realizing this. >Is that a "dell" email >address I see you posting from? Hmmmm.... I happen to lurk on -hackers to offer occassional technical assistance with various PC architecture issues and arcana, which is where my particular expertise is. I do this as a sort of hobby. There is no official knowledge or backing to this. I'm here personally and not officially. - Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message