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Date:      Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:51:35 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>, freebsd-hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Toolchain <freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Head build unsafe for /etc today
Message-ID:  <201711042251.vA4MpZs8061361@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> of "Sat, 04 Nov 2017 10:23:10 -0700." <201711041723.vA4HNANJ001399@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>

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In message <201711041723.vA4HNANJ001399@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>, "Rodney W. 
Gri
mes" writes:
> > On 11/2/2017 8:58 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
> > > FreeBSD has grown too big to test every possible thing before you commit.
> 
> I would say that it has always been too big to test every possible
> thing before a commit.  Breakage is just going to happen, we make
> great efforts to minimize it, but like all risks sooner or later
> your gona have a failure.
> 
> > 
> > The build itself is massive.  I usually forget about release/ and the
> > new 'make packages', external toolchain, "old style" kernel builds, etc.
> Good starting list for "make build-regresion" ?
> 
> > 
> > Steve's concerns have validity.   I do think it's time we have an
> > automated suite to test most build cases for things like bmake upgrades
> > or other high risk changes like META_MODE.
> > 
> > 
> > I'll think about this and add to my list of things to implement.
> 
> I would even go so far as to say this may be what we should be
> running in (a) Jenkins.  Or perhaps a deeper exp-run?

Yes.


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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