From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Mon Feb 12 02:58:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A731AF0F01F for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 02:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x233.google.com (mail-io0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F674795EA for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 02:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x233.google.com with SMTP id n7so15800437iob.0 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:58:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=wwYk+xIZ4cxkRVEaGBElNlnyNuRwD9dWSbDtXn2Ww3g=; b=zzsGxkRcLkLDCxtxM3Q3yryTI2xB1fpiMPKT3YKNOGHqG+FSpenoVCiYleBn4JA0dn JXO2gAgvPSRdgTbtdKkXLCfQ1XGTmU8ikDAXOxCK2Y3SIY2taSXuxDgtnMtQRcDyUf51 r4AHpeLSCZBnFUhFFEhtg0XfQR0NCRPyc7p/1GRb1MhuNbmOy6P1GnQcuX0VO2titgSI qO8oJbx4pIl4XMFViZKK0tEFe1N5QZx2t2XReZ/I8mlz8bJ6IUo/aLq+oQjDBNgBqm1p PgoSoBsCGeKkTyRhFCYWR90Rz9dDz5SHYqYeOhQ9TwWo1SYJ2sbeXTyR/IU7xl3jdEk/ ormg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wwYk+xIZ4cxkRVEaGBElNlnyNuRwD9dWSbDtXn2Ww3g=; b=KnFc6cA18/Mcsj55QeZduW+GIgoXrhOYKULOyqeRyc5RXEE7fn7lpY/jokpgeqs56j pvJQzirZRCnN5y9pFmFCe369nmtCB3OxpumzXF9DgaSlzshMJZZasbt3G7+1XDer6k9s dHWqUSvp2qbffIUP6KpPp968LHMqLwAisyyq1iK+bafTsjT5AzW7hl/bhZGR6hM5DnvF nUU9yq2kTXreLF8pD29oSwJu4Fbq6tTrNPVEj5lHes6ZGKKVRkckgfoZZf/nPKwB1EMx AL3Y+Jgp8S35717jay1Z/GEk+HYEC9kPBK1lAeRdpF6RaDTmjUszmJLk1Ez/mm0lxJhn kR/w== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPA/eRoeap1sgp/B44zxpP3wgzon68B+swa4g0cAVMNK3tuOdMNF RnxB+94H8pe0goWSGIZeEsfMtFkdOXmGKjKt2f0zRA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227G7fWH1TfLLzsG2wi717FgmS/xScFg7vuCYJlTNyXTkRx7xU6ncf2wz1m//NUfwZHhHApr5DAYBncZotiTFas= X-Received: by 10.107.172.130 with SMTP id v124mr7300305ioe.301.1518404283321; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:58:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.201.67 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:58:02 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:b0a7:f4b6:69f8:4eba] Received: by 10.79.201.67 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:58:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1518374549.32585.238.camel@freebsd.org> <201802112346.w1BNkPXc041510@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:58:02 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: dwoExcNZkqq8GgYspU07rZUEAxs Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r329126 - head/etc/devd To: "Conrad E. Meyer" Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , src-committers , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 02:58:04 -0000 On Feb 11, 2018 7:05 PM, "Conrad Meyer" wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Moving this to /usr creates a cyclic issue in that you then need > /usr to be mounted before devd can start and devd's /etc/rc.d file > says: > # PROVIDE: devd > # REQUIRE: NETWORKING > # BEFORE: mountcritremote > # KEYWORD: nojail > > In the diskless and nfs shared /usr worlds devd wants to start > before /usr is mounted. If devd is needed to mount /usr (???), it seems like just another demonstration of why separate /usr is a poor idea. No, it's another reason why generated devd files are wrong in the face of devmatch. Warner