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Date:      Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:46:40 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        wkt@tuhs.org
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Caldera and the Ancient UNIX license
Message-ID:  <20011217104640.A14500@monorchid.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <200112160618.fBG6IcK23973@minnie.tuhs.org>
References:  <20011216115556.A62493@monorchid.lemis.com> <200112160618.fBG6IcK23973@minnie.tuhs.org>

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On Sunday, 16 December 2001 at 17:18:37 +1100, Warren Toomey wrote:
> In article by Greg Lehey:
> 	[about if and how Caldera is enforcing the Ancient UNIX
> 	 http://www2.caldera.com/offers/ancient.html. Note also
> 	 that in fact they allow access to the code via
> 	 license described at http://www2.caldera.com/offers/ancient001/
> 	 without you first agreeing to the license...]
>
>> That may be easier than you think.  I'm copying Warren Toomey on
>> this.  Warren is (a) a FreeBSD user and (b) the person who negotiated
>> these contracts in the first place.  Warren, Peter is thinking of
>> porting the 2BSD file system (not sure whether that's UFS or the
>> original UNIX file system) to FreeBSD.  As Terry observes, the current
>> license doesn't allow that.
>
> Firstly, call me crazy, but I thought the 2BSD filesystem layout was
> essentially UFS, i.e i-nodes at the start, and therefore would be
> pretty much the same as /sys/ufs/ufs in FreeBSD. I'll have to do a
> compare of the source code and get back to you ....

One of the things I said before you came in was that that depends on
the value of 2.  2.0BSD certainly didn't have ffs.

> Which brings me to the question, does anybody know a good contact at
> Caldera who can point us to the `right person' to negotiate on this.
> I knew the guy at SCO who dealt with this, but not at Caldera.

Hmm, I thought you would know.  Have you asked Dion?

Greg
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