From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 8 17:59:27 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B0A16A41C for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:59:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from luzifer.incubus.de (incubus.de [80.237.207.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21E343D1F for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:59:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mkb@incubus.de) Received: from [192.168.2.10] (p54AABF8A.dip.t-dialin.net [84.170.191.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by luzifer.incubus.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C59D31140; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 20:02:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42A73293.5000105@incubus.de> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 20:01:55 +0200 From: Matthias Buelow User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050526) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Tancsa References: <20050608001306.3FB1F43D5C@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <42A6C7CE.9000002@incubus.de> <200506080908.02478.fcash@ocis.net> <42A71AE1.8020300@incubus.de> <6.2.1.2.0.20050608134054.06b8ccb0@64.7.153.2> In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.0.20050608134054.06b8ccb0@64.7.153.2> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 OpenPGP: id=6FF22C9F; url=http://www.mkbuelow.net/mkbkeys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:59:27 -0000 Mike Tancsa wrote: >> I remember 5.2.1 panicking left and right, on several machines, it was >> completely unusable. Maybe we just live in different universes. > > Me too, but a lot has changed since 5.2.1 which at the time was I think > was called a preview. The topic is 5.4R. What parts of the OS do you > feel are not production ready as compared to 4.X ? I won't go into the details here; it has crashed and frozen on me on several occasions, it behaves badly when you do things it does not expect, like pulling a mounted USB stick, it doesn't have working software RAID (Ok, vinum never worked properly but that's a different story), and it's performance is sub-par. I consider it "production ready" when the new architecture has fully been implemented, GIANT is gone, all those race conditions and deadlocks that seemingly still persist have been fixed, and is has weathered a release or two after that without apparent problems. mkb.