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Subject: Re: PPP Desperate for help! 
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> >I think it may be frugal to make this the default for both client
> >*and* server.  A lot of server implementations wait for the client
> >to start.  Any comments ?
> 
> It shouldnt make a difference, if implemented properly. There is
> no master-slave relationship in ppp...the ends are peers. Upon
> starting the interface it should send "n" configs, and then stop
> if no reply is received. When a config is received it starts again. The
> state machine allows for this nicely. One problem is when the electrical
> interface (UP) is not implemented (ie, receipt of DSR) properly. You should
> not be able to get into both ends being dormant if its done properly.
> 
> Dennis

But the problem is (and I experienced this myself with my ISP) that
ppp in "call-up" mode won't start LCP.  My ISP will not start either,
so I make the call and we both sit there looking at eachother, grinning
in a way that only ppp connections can.

With "set openmode active", LCP is initiated irrespective.
-- 
Brian <brian@awfulhak.org>, <brian@freebsd.org>
      <http://www.awfulhak.demon.co.uk/>
Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....