From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 1 16:13:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03C465A2; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp1.multiplay.co.uk (smtp1.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FB8291F; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp1.multiplay.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 346D420E7088C; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:13:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.multiplay.co.uk X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=8.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DOS_OE_TO_MX, FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1,HELO_NO_DOMAIN,RDNS_DYNAMIC,STOX_REPLY_TYPE autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Received: from r2d2 (82-69-141-170.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.69.141.170]) by smtp1.multiplay.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D63F720E70886; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Allan Jude" , References: <20140601004242.GA97224@bewilderbeast.blackhelicopters.org> <3D6974D83AE9495E890D9F3CA654FA94@multiplay.co.uk> <538B4CEF.2030801@freebsd.org> <538B4F5F.2010700@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: fdisk(8) vs gpart(8), and gnop Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 17:13:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 16:13:35 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Jude" >> Does anyone have any objections to me changing this default, right now, >> today? > > The only other downside to 4k sectors is that you only get a history of > 32 transaction groups instead of 128. Matt Ahrens says this isn't a big > deal. > > I agree with changing the default to 12, a user making a new pool with > 512b disks that is that worried about performance, can always shift the > value back to 9. > > I will add this to the zfs section of the handbook, and make a specific > note about this 512b issue. > > The 18,000 word ZFS section of the handbook should go live within a week > or two. Theres quite a bit more to it than that, see my previous post. Regards Steve