From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Dec 2 12:29:01 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B405DFDBC4 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 12:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@vishwin.info) Received: from varun.vishwin.info (varun.vishwin.info [46.101.93.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "varun.vishwin.info", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C56F36CFF9 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 12:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@vishwin.info) Received: from varun.vishwin.info (fd35:9eae:7575::2 [IPv6:fd35:9eae:7575::2]) by varun.vishwin.info (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 39c3ad31 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 07:23:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=vishwin.info; h=subject :references:to:from:message-id:date:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-type; s=fuccboi12; bh=qSphhixhUonmyIOrnfuYnuv5dSEngVCVt Shz75A0gmU=; b=jGlokZq3uqx+/6Y7R58RWTW/tw0UZ7ASCaX/ndlJUwC1pBpXB v6gNJzC2ucQbS2P/FfI4oCy894UD1/fzamIuzTiiusOIB/Xy2ExvOAN6Jsipj38p Tynh0KVgn5D8n86bOWCsYwuFtAN6fY7zPPrI7nTBBlk64g1Xc7iwT4NZPlrWtCeu u//1e5Y34v/UeCwnMgKNw0p50bJlwUJ/tkRK3o/nMFA/nzxU4v12+7h8z7d69BMB cXxcH/Bgq6bHUsaj3QODSAqoLtFCTixqrg+4/Xga4LQD/zwx9j6s4mV4hKYTFE/o F5JbNzgMp665oSJLkANSSpkdW0eFl3vvyEjAQ== Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:8:6ca:cad7:19ff:fec0:a06d] (2001:470:8:6ca:cad7:19ff:fec0:a06d [IPv6:2001:470:8:6ca:cad7:19ff:fec0:a06d]) by varun.vishwin.info (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 6666cb28 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 07:23:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth? References: <1512211220.79413.1.camel@yandex.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Charlie Li Message-ID: <7f654c63-dd5d-e54f-a8cf-ff1d18128d94@vishwin.info> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 07:23:22 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UQMiqTrwsCxG4eqSvotUSd6XALILPVGHm" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:29:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --UQMiqTrwsCxG4eqSvotUSd6XALILPVGHm Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="dH0lbJjb8RethdwGPUfEl7apc3DdHNcmk"; protected-headers="v1" From: Charlie Li To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7f654c63-dd5d-e54f-a8cf-ff1d18128d94@vishwin.info> Subject: Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth? References: <1512211220.79413.1.camel@yandex.com> In-Reply-To: --dH0lbJjb8RethdwGPUfEl7apc3DdHNcmk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB-large Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/12/2017 06:53, Carmel NY wrote: > Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning how= to use > an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a relatively small home= network. >=20 poudriere is not industrial-sized at all. Sure, it has many features that I don't exactly use, but it's certainly not industrial-sized. I had the same impression of a monstrosity before I started using it myself, on my *laptop* of all things. > Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", > "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has done = a > pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent. Which bring= s me > to what happens if I do embrace "poudriere". How long before that becom= es > history also? >=20 portmgr officially maintains and promotes poudriere. It's not going anywhere until they say it is. --=20 Charlie Li Can't think of a witty .sigline today=E2=80=A6 (This email address is for mailing list use only; replace local-part with vishwin for off-list communication) --dH0lbJjb8RethdwGPUfEl7apc3DdHNcmk-- --UQMiqTrwsCxG4eqSvotUSd6XALILPVGHm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE/RdyC3Asy49czZEGtQ4IJhNZSS0FAloimzoACgkQtQ4IJhNZ SS0LWxAAjTNwitSh1oP2n3O5mJ3kmFdayFCm57ezkLiQ60SGmPMKtoPfQdR7/ymC Hrbx/RQqwj2YLubLMUYuCIlsSeELW2UgzRyx00dQjZluSD1PpJjIzWTYcuVGuJsl K/KKbDtwo+o/BMtuQjpeojHZNCXxOcUksq2seoBSEVuBFtqkEnVTE0SN4obKwgbB vOU546UIKK4TJZnZn/7Kz2gPCqRpdbrpsEjTDJWSGx21I1ps/U8zjac/A+ItFEeV lsHb0mVtYPPy6bD8TymsTxdtxzXCcoNs6roOuymVRn0LkbRRKAWHD0iW8Rk4MSUb vMf/oDWHw6iG12kvYePzISoofTe533XOX3TZpae3dYLEfR/DWfw9a+FyZabwiVDw Iyf4gONn2lyiwFbz9HPf2i22gbEjGmYNV43kz+pUmI6S4XEENvYaTe1f3j/mVmra wEsLl4xPzgZ6XpguGuFaAU1feylJQNWdGHf5urAybYSF0gnRTAT0uFLiSwRlUNU5 PFtLi+KaqgOeTVCayHEgIaA/n1n/1wwRwpjZmc9jYHOXNJ8bAUvZ4D0n7JWbExOJ kVIU8SzpxeysSXrlSASuT3wWQKaUzW3KjXm1GfhrWiyMfWrfxLkO83Asfk220Omx hdHA3FvDXRkZ6PPiqBsxyx9Njsg3iXkpXMbpaDqfdcln7WfEQDE= =EZ/8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UQMiqTrwsCxG4eqSvotUSd6XALILPVGHm--