From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Nov 2 23:54:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from cnidaria.digitalized.com (cr1000811-a.ym1.on.wave.home.com [24.112.39.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9035914F10; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from edwardk@digitalized.com) Received: from nyctereutes.digitalized.com (nyctereutes.digitalized.com [172.16.128.201]) by cnidaria.digitalized.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A35B9FB11; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by nyctereutes.digitalized.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 338B0F615E; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:54:13 -0500 (EST) To: "condor@inreach.com" Cc: "'Warner Losh'" , Dug Song , "Gary D. Kline" , "provos@citi.umich.edu" , "security@FreeBSD.ORG" , "ports@FreeBSD.ORG" , "markus@openbsd.org" Subject: Re: OpenSSH patches References: <01BF2574.D4747820.condor@inreach.com> From: Edward Kovarski Date: 03 Nov 1999 02:54:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: CONDOR's message of "Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:52:30 -0800" Message-ID: <87so2onh7f.fsf@nyctereutes.digitalized.com> Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/21.1 (Arches) X-Face: 0F|^.]?ziw/jy%(7m;n/u:I1eL7IY46:#oi~/v:J==u,49V+u>mO&NsMkpy9rab{cAtJgX>(vO%z!FY/>eq-jky=)L7waW]A@Z)p*G>2Y4<(gp__\l$ws%1a)BEW$U#4D\ALU(cr.s0Y#y/s}ht\}BChwO^!8.t=>n{|"okCXhM#w$ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since patents are generally very vague in order to encompass as much as possible of a given market, the significant changes would have to create a whole new product and thus a whole new patent. You would be still able to use the old expired patent to your hearts content. If they could have done it, they would have. A few publications did some stories on RSA - mainly Bidzos - and where he was planning to take the company once their nest egg expired. Anyhow, according to RSA[1] they were issued the patent on September 29, 1983. However, according to the IBM[2] and USPTO server they are listing the issue date as September 20, 1983. Using the USPTO and IBM servers as a reference, the patent officially expires on September 20, 2000. [1] http://www.rsasecurity.com/rsalabs/faq/6-3-1.html [2] http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn=US04405829__ /e CONDOR writes: > -----Original Message----- > From: Warner Losh [SMTP:imp@village.org] > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 17:32 > To: Dug Song > Cc: Gary D. Kline; provos@citi.umich.edu; security@FreeBSD.ORG; ports@FreeBSD.ORG; markus@openbsd.org > Subject: Re: OpenSSH patches > > In message Dug Song writes: > : Patents can be renewed. > > Patents cannot be renewed. > > [CONDOR] They can if you planned ahead with a significant enough change to the original and refile the changes in the right way. :-) > > Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message