From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 15:25:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 644BB98D for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1BE5A06 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBDFF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.203.223.249]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sAKFLQpi021299; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:21:27 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id sAKFPFvT087800; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:25:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id sAKFOvqW031368; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:25:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201411201525.sAKFOvqW031368@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Turning off HAL for xorg-server From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Mon, 17 Nov 2014 23:13:56 +0000." <546A8134.1030400@addr.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 16:24:57 +0100 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:25:50 -0000 Tony Sweeney wrote: > On 11/17/2014 12:35, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Hi, Reference my: > > "Julian H. Stacey" wrote: > >> =?windows-1252?Q?Jean-S=E9bastien_P=E9dron?= wrote: > >>> On 16.11.2014 03:37, Warren Block wrote: > >>>> xorg-server no longer requires HAL. When can we turn the HAL option of= > >>> f > >>>> in the port? > >> > >> With current src & ports & an /etc/X11/xorg.conf freshly produced > >> on FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT 2 days back by: X -configure I had to Add > >> hald_enable="YES" to my rc.conf before internal & external keyboards > >> & mice would resume working. > >> > >> I did not previously need hald_enable in /etc/rc.conf for partitions > >> on same PC running X on 8.4-RELEASE, 9.3-RELEASE, 10.0-RELEASE. > >> > >> Most users will want an X PC that by default works with keyboard & mouse, > >> FreeBSD defaults should support that IMO, as minority higher skilled X purists > >> can easily comment out input if they are building a non standard PC. > >> > >> PS FYI I have long had devd ON, on all 4 FreeBSD partitions & releases, > >> (in case that makes a difference). > > > > Since I added hald_enable="YES, X -configure always crashes ! > > This currently seems to crash no matter what, it's even in the Wiki: > > https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics#Tested_hardware_matrix > > This a little shabby, à mon avis (moue) > > Tony. > > > > (without -configure normal X input works). > > To investigate I'll comment out some mounts & add background_fsck="YES". Some helpful text can be appended to that wiki please, if someone has write access: (I tested with src & sys built from todays current src/ & ports X from a few days or weak back) X -configure only crashes if both devd & hald are running, if one stop either hald or devd before running X -configure the OS does Not crash :-) As I use devd for lots of things, it's normaly on here, (I guess it is for many people), so till someone else solves X -configure, wiki & README type advice should be: su cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d ; ./hald stop X -configure mv $HOME/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d ; ./hald start # to get keyboard & mouse echo "now edit or tune /etc/X11/xorg.conf as normal if desired." Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix C Sys Eng Consultant Munich http://berklix.com Indent previous with "> ". Interleave reply paragraphs like a play script. Send plain text, not quoted-printable, HTML, base64, or multipart/alternative.